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This doesn't solve the problem. Trapper, Wraith, Billy, Nurse, Huntress, Hag, Doctor, Freddy, Spirit, Legion, Plague, Demmodoggo, Oni, Slinger,
buttPyramid Head, Blight, Victor, The Jokester, Nemesis and Pinhead all can just cancel the perk when it triggers and go back to being bad and not landing hits within 30 seconds. -
@Huge_Bush said:
Either close the chat box so you don't have to deal with this or relish in the salt like I do. Both sides are entitled, it isn't a survivor exclusive, though, yes, I see it more from them. It will never go away, people will be butt hurt about anything these days. So save up all the salt and use it on some delicious potatoes.
Who said I was complaining? lmao
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@DwarvenTavern said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2439230#Comment_2439230
The RT though. Normally if you wanna retweet something, you'd just do it and instead of putting RT. This is what caused a good amount of confusion. I just wanna know if the RT was just a meme or they were actually trying to retweet
I had interpreted that as them telling people to retweet it.
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Ace being trapped in the cage, just like the Cenobites are kinda "trapped" in the Lament Configuration.
Yeah, it's that, and not that Clive Barker writes stories about his personal extreme interests. Not at all~
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@VioletCrimes said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2439249#Comment_2439249
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/4SQAC0EUD7JG/fa7ebfbf-7f45-479f-af9b-0abac92c67f9.jpeg
Gaze upon the splendor that we have been denied.
I'm not certain how buttmad I am.
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It could also be an American high school, or a prison, or a second ward to Lery's, or a minimall, or a hotel :o
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play for yourself, do the objectives, and just use him as bait. Set up scenarios to treat him like a free endurance.
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@bedlord said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2438029#Comment_2438029
But his chains don't have any sense of lethality or danger on them currently you can just pluck them out easy and fast
They still slow you, and if he's not bad he won't use them when he has no way to you. Watch how SupaAlf played him.
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I think it's more like, treat Pinhead like a Nurse but with Slinger's shot instead of an M1.
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That sounds like the DC penalty is working as intended. I don't want somebody who regularly disconnects in my games, and I'm not even sorry for holding that opinion.
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Every time someone tells me I'm tunneling I tell them "I'm aware."
They get so mad lmao
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@miketheratguy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2435335#Comment_2435335
Yeah I mean it's difficult. I can see both sides. I do think that FNAF (the games themselves) are too readily dismissed as just kids' stuff. That's a fair interpretation given the vast majority of the series' audience (and all the eeeeeeendless content that they splattered all over the internet). I understand why people would think that the series is just jumpscares and its audience just children. I totally get it.
At the same time the game (at least the first one, which is the only one I can vouch for) really is well-designed, creating efficient tension in a very simple, straightfoward manner. My personal belief is that Springtrap IS a very interesting character, as it's basically a stinking, decaying costume that acts as the permanent vessel of the desiccated corpse of a serial child murderer who got impaled in it when he was desperately fleeing the spirits of the kids that he killed. To me that's a pretty creepy, creative concept. A rotting children's entertainment suit made animate by the equally rotten corpse of the child killer physically crammed inside is something I wouldn't want to encounter.
But the things that the FNAF fans don't seem to understand is that not only do many people not know the details of the series, many people don't care. Without proper exposure to the backstory via FNAF gameplay and the series' clues and community theories slow reveals Springtrap is, for all intents and purposes, just a dirty rabbit suit. On top of that, the FNAF fandom is, for better and worse, already massive and populated by many young adults. When a lot of people (even myself, who would defend the series on its technical merits) think of FNAF, they think of crummy fanart drawn by middle-schoolers. The vibe just doesn't feel right for this game. I said basically the same thing when someone suggested that this game should have anime killers. Anime is already its own flavor, its own community, it's own self-sustaining machine. It's an entire culture unto itself, and by bleeding it into DBD it would create a clash of styles and fandoms (my opinion, anyway). Two flavors that work fine on their own but create a sort of dissonance when paired together. FNAF would be the same. It would be like putting Darth Vader in this game: I love Star Wars but Star Wars is not Dead By Daylight. Star Wars is Star Wars.
And of course, lastly, there's the simple fact that people have been spamming the topic to death. This one shouldn't be rocket science. Whether people want FNAF in the game or not is fine, but it's been explained to people time and time again that by constantly bringing it up, it's just annoying people and making them that much more likely to want to become equally aggressive in pushing back.
I don't know. I like FNAF fine and I don't think that it would be a good fit for the game. Even if it were, being so relentless about it isn't the right way to make the idea palatable to non-fans.
"Unpalatable" is a good way to put it, tbh.
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@miketheratguy said:
I've been watching the FNAF topics exponentially increase over the last month. I honestly feel sorry for you guys.
Here's the thing: Objectively speaking, weighing both the pros and the cons and trying to give the FNAF games (not the fandom, the games themselves) a fair shake, they ARE jumpscare simulators, yes, and some would (correctly) argue that they're also resource management sims. Don't let your power meter run out, make sure to check the vents and hallways, etc etc etc. I get it, it's not everyone's cup of tea.
I had absolutely the lowest, bargain basement expectations of FNAF when I played the first game about four or five years ago. But I won't lie, I enjoyed the experience. The game isn't satisfying because of the jumpscares, the game is satisfying in the tension that comes with trying to AVOID the jumpscares, which is paired with a very strong sense of helplessness, very rich and well-crafted audio, and - ultimately - a slowly unspooling story that gets darker and more macabre as it progresses. I respect the games for what they are, even if I myself also don't want much if anything to do with the majority of people who make up the game's more vocal fandom.
The games - for what they set out to be - are actually effective. They're not bad. Some are even fun. But as I've quietly watched the forum this last month it's become readily apparent that people have mercilessly spammed the subject to death. There's no reason for that, and it's also counterproductive which seems evident to all but those who keep up the spamming.
If any FNAF fans and hopefuls bother to read this post, please try to take something from it: I'm with you guys in feeling that FNAF and Springtrap have some pretty cool aesthetics. I can understand why you want to see them in a game like this. But by being so aggressive about your wishes, you're just leaving a very poor impression of your fandom. The DBD community doesn't want to be invaded. It's not about hatred for the franchise, it's about being pestered mercilessly about the same topic over and over again. Be patient, let the topic breathe, give people a break. No one wants to hear the same things said to them every single day. Maybe in time FNAF will become a part of DBD. I don't have a preference about this one way or another. I'm just hoping that maybe, as someone who understands the love of the games a little bit more than maybe the average DBD player, you guys can understand when I tell you that trying to win approval for the concept by making thread after thread about the topic is not the right way to go about it.
It'd be neat if they'd listen to this, but so far it's just "YOU DISAGREE?11?!/!?!! NANI!?1!"
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@Saitamfed said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2434387#Comment_2434387
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2434386#Comment_2434386
No, but as a customer you get to know hwat's the reason because that will gives you a head up if you want to keep investing on it or not. Stop thinking that you don't deserve to be treated like potato bags. You purchased something and it's normal to know why they can't keep it, whether it's for license issues or not... YOU are the one who paid for it. As I said, I can't remove your internet services and tell you "yes, but if you have downloaded something, you can still have it", you're paying for it and you deserve to know what's going on.
None of that little paragraph has anything to do with that you have no business in their business decisions as a business.
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@Sypherpathic said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/273481/real-question-and-concern-i-just-had-with-sbmm
You could always do this. I have a second PS4 account with no progress because my wife and I were going to start a challenge where when each survivor dies, you have to move on to the next... But we were playing through the rift and now there's another one and so on.
But you could always do this, so not sure what the point is? This is not a differentiator between ranks and SBMM.
There's no skill based matchmaking right now. It's a healthy mix of returning players that aren't good and actual new survivors at high ranks. There's still a decent/reasonable chance that at least 1 of the 4 survivors are actually good. With SBMM enabled, that's off the table.
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@Mooks said:
yeah. Sorry but that is an issue that literally every single matchmaking system can’t really stop. Current one as well. And it’s probably much faster to get to an appropriate MMR than it is to rank up to red ranks.
I'm aware it's an issue that they can't stop. The actual concern is "Why, after five years, allow it to become a problem?"
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@Saitamfed said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2434175#Comment_2434175
Actually yes. It's like a professor unwilling to share you the result of their test within a week... they have a responsability to do so as people are customers, imagine me providing you a service then removing it and saying "you don't need to know why, it won't change the result anyway"... so yes, people do have a right to know, specially when they paid for said product.
Imagine thinking you're entitled to know the business practices of a company you're not on the board to. Just because you gave them money doesn't mean you get to know how often they flush their toilets.
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@KerJuice said:
I’m confused- couldn’t this be done now with the same effect? With more desired results for the offender(s) even?
Right now it's a toss up who's actually in who's games. Returning players from months past are still not bad players, so there's a healthy mix of good and bad players at "rank 20." What I'm worried about is new accounts from high tier players getting into the queue with actual new players, because SBMM has no data on them.
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@Sonzaishinai said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2433721#Comment_2433721
Kinda?
I still don't really get why people can't just ignore it. Especially since the post will die out again after the ptb.
They always flare up when teasers drop and die out soon after
Seems like a lot of wasted effort to get rilled up over something they can't change and is mostly going to fix itself in time
My specific problem with "just ignore it" is also "just ignoring" the fact that only X amount of threads can be on a page in the forum, and an increasing amount of FNAF threads is taking away from that. Saying "just ignore it" is telling us to just ignore a growing problem that's "physically" limiting the space of the content we DO want to see. It just really sucks that whenever anyone has anything to say that's not pro-FNAF the FNAF community comes out in force like bats to screech all over the place, and calling /that/ out makes them scream louder. Case in point, I literally only said in the OP that it's getting excessive and there's other avenues, but the thread is full of people calling me hateful and other things because I can't/won't "just ignore it."
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2433244#Comment_2433244
Fair enough, but shouldn't it show the results anyway if a person goes to that page in the results?
Eventually yeah, but if people keep posting more content it keeps updating that list, so while in theory it should, in practice it might not.
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2433222#Comment_2433222
It doesn't purge the threads, no. That's why we have over 4000 pages of threads in General Discussions.
Manually loading one page at a time is not the same as running a query and pooping the results. One is just listing the content, the other is sorting it. One takes processing power and disk access that needs to be managed.
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@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2433142#Comment_2433142
I'm surprised you actually did it, most people just gloss over verifying sources. You get an upvote on that alone.
Truth be told, I didn't scroll through the pages because I just assumed it was working properly. However, it does seem like it's a bug, since it happens with "Candyman" as well, on page 9. I'm guessing it's related to deleted comments.
Deleted comments and raw information overload. I wouldn't be surprised to see the software DBD uses for its forum intentionally purges threads of a certain age so the rest functions smooth for the general public. Public access databases do need load balancing, and a forum is exactly that. It's still showing the amount of content that was available though, which means the point isn't moot. Those threads did exist at one point.
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@Deadlock said:
I didn't know seeing people enjoy something is offensive to you. If you don't like seeing these threads or think they are spam, report them, and move on. It doesn't do anyone good to be angry at something that isn't going to stop. The only way the fnaf hype will die is if it's implemented into the game. Yes I support fnaf in dbd. Yes I most recently made a fnaf post that everyone got mad at because "fnaf bad, and liking fnaf bad" even tho in no way was I trying to spam, I was just trying to have an honest conversation. A lot of people do it put of spite because people who don't want fnaf are such jerks. But contact a mod, report the posts, or (my personal favorite) ignore the posts. Leaving hate comments or telling them to stop won't work. This is the forums meant for talking about dbd, you really can't just say "stop posting about fnaf" because that isn't going to work. I see posts all the time about Candyman and I don't really want to Candyman in the game. However I'm not gonna bash them unless it's clearly spam. Fnaf is just a hot topic and people want it. Just let people enjoy things, or just quietly report them. Everyone is just so angry at each other and I don't get it. Like, let's just chill and enjoy a game where we virtually kill people.
Candyman isn't getting 25 new threads a day, and Candyman fans aren't derailing topics or whining/screaming when people disagree with them. The FNAF community is doing both. Simply disagreeing with them they get super buttmad. Just look at all the "in defense of" posts in this thread. I simply asked people calm down on how much there is but I'm getting full on f yourself responses, then told I'm the hateful one. Ironically, out of people not even reading the FNAF threads they're white knighting for.
There's a massive difference.
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@DwarvenTavern said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2431586#Comment_2431586
Or just admit it will never happen
I favor this route.
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@Sonzaishinai said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2432924#Comment_2432924
That's the whole point, you don't have to deal with it. You can just ignore it. You just choose not too.
It is in no way entitlement. The difference between the fnaf community and you is that you are deciding for them what they should discus while they are just talking among themself. They are not forcing you to read any of it.
Trying to turn the world revolving comment around while they just want to discus what they like and you as an outsider step in and tell them they can't is beyond ironic.
And fnaf is a horror game. DbD takes licences of horror games so it's 100% a valid point of discussion.
Or are we going to put a fixed number of threads on all suggestions for this game? Better watch out with candyman suggestions. We are nearing the tolerance level of some people.
I don't personally care for fnaf but people who try to silence other people just cause they don't like what they say need a serious reality check.
Thanks for giving the perfect example of what i said about ego's. Your problem with the fnaf community is exactly that. Your problem that you made for yourself.
If you don't like my FNAF thread just ignore it c:
The irony is so strong I taste metal. I mention the FNAF community is whiney, and I get whined at about it. Lmaooooo
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@Sonzaishinai said:
People who complain about this need to get their ego's checked
The world does not resolve around you that you can decide what people can and can't discus about. Especially seeing on whether you like it or not fnaf being added is a valid point of discussion.
If you don't care about it it is as simple as ignoring post and replies about it. You don't need to announce to the world that you don't care
I've already covered this, but here we go.
My ego is not related to being annoyed at the sheer volume of FNAF content overtaking a DBD forum. Thanks for being the poster child of my grievances though with the community, and rehashing an already displayed example of my complaints. "I LIKE THIS SO YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT" is not a valid argument.
The same argument btw could be said for you. The world does not revolve around you, and this is a forum for DBD, so why do we have to have 20 threads a day on FNAF? Is it really not ok in your eyes that we chill it out? Because that's a fine example of entitlement, which is just another complaint I have about the FNAF community. You're far from the first to tell me to suck it up without any real substance to your opinion.
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Watch it be some obscure stuff, like the dance hall from Hellraiser III
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Do the opposite, IMO. Killers should have quickly stacking penalties.
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It would be neat if they incorporated the movie ability to let the hooks come from dark corners you can't really see in and they pin you to the wall.
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@[Deleted User] said:
There are more replies that exist than threads of fnaf, that is the issue. If you are not interested in that discussion, just don't click on it. Similarly i don't click on balance/optimisation discussions because im not interested in those aspects of the game.
The issue is that almost half of the front page of the discussion board for DEAD BY DAYLIGHT is just FNAF content, not how long the treads get. A 1 reply thread is the exact same amount of thread space on the front page as a 39 page thread. It's the sheer amount of threads that's the issue, but thanks for telling me what I feel. Big appreciate.
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@sulaiman said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/273226/i-feel-the-fnaf-thing-is-getting-out-of-hand
Have you searched for key and hatch complains? I think they might easily reach that number.
I have. They're not ~90 pages in the past 30 days worth of content.
@[Deleted User] said:
There are more replies that exist than threads of fnaf, that is the issue. If you are not interested in that discussion, just don't click on it. Similarly i don't click on balance/optimisation discussions because im not interested in those aspects of the game.
So I'm supposed to just accept that less and less forum space is going to stuff I want to read? You're allowed to like videogames I do not like (that are also not DBD) but I feel it's excessive for the discussion board for
DEAD BY DAYLIGHTto be pretty regularly half full ofFIVE NIGHTS AT FREDDY'Scontent. Do you see the problem, here? It's like going to the local PTA meeting to talk about child care. Yes, it's not an inappropriate place, but there's also much better avenues for your conversations that frustrate the rest of the attendees less. -
@burt0r said:
Damn can the devs please already make a FNAF chapter so this dumb discussions and the mountains of threads every new chapter can stop 🙄
tbh at this point I'd prefer if the came out and confirmed it not happening. The burn out will subside after a month or so, and we get our petty victory. I don't want to encourage the kind of behavior I find annoying, and crying over and over til someone gets what they want I find annoying.
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@Emeal said:
@SonicOffline If its a problem, then BHVR will ban it. OR like a smart person, They ignore useless threads.
Like You know how to do that? Don't you? You really should.
So I'm supposed to just accept that less and less forum space is going to things I want to read, because you like a videogame (that is not DBD) that people here have already expressed a distaste for?
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@Emeal said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2431491#Comment_2431491
As long as they are not hurting anyone I could not care less.
You don't even have to read the threads on the forum.
What seem to be the problem?
The fact that it's just so much content about FNAF and everyone responds like litreally this when pointing it out is the problem. "WELL I LIKE IT SO IT'S OK TO SPAM THE BOARDS" is all I'm really reading at this point, and I know I'm not alone.
@ThiccBudhha said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2431031#Comment_2431031
This is objectively false. Discussions on Five Nights at Freddy's will only increase the odds that the developers recognize the demand for the character. It doesn't really matter if people on the forums are mad, that has like nothing to do with their decision making. They want that money, bro.
That being said, you do not realistically need to worry. Didn't the creator retire after people tried to cancel him? That series is going nowhere fast anymore. The hype will naturally die down.
A) The forums are a very, very small fraction of the player base. That's true for most games, and I see no reason for that to change here. I've been given no evidence of such.
B) If we really wanted to go the "Well it'll get developer attention" route, it could also get moderator attention when they start purging FNAF threads because it's turning into a FNAF forum, not a DBD forum.
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I don't want FNAF in the game to spite the community. Only the FNAF community has been absolutely adamant that we will get their killer, and derail other threads as well as spam the general discussion about FNAF.
I'm just tired of seeing FNAF crap. People are allowed to like what they like, but that doesn't mean I have to like it being shoved down my throat every time I check the forums. Sometimes, the FNAF posts are just jumper cables stories.
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This map is almost stupdily even. There's some killers that just outright suck on it, like Huntress, and others that are absolutely amazing on it, like Jokester and Wraith. Hands down it's my second favorite Wraith map omfg
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@Superyoshiegg said:
I like the DC Penalty because I'm sick of selfish crybaby children having a tantrum and leaving the game every time it goes slightly wrong with no consequence, ruining the match for the other four players.
I like the idea of a soft penalty. It'll just tank your MMR til you only play with other DCers.
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He may have swapped keys for one that doesn't have the ring on it, too.
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@Junylar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2429107#Comment_2429107
I mean, by what they were saying in chat it looked like they did it on purpose. I played Wraith and the DC happened just after I hit the friend of the DCer. Could it be there is an exploit that allows a survivor to "suspend" DC while loading, so that they could dodge the whole game if they don't like the killer or something?
He "did it on purpose" as in he DC'd on a loading screen and the game still loaded, but cancelled.
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It's a thing that happens from time to time. The game starts anyway but recognizes the DC after the fact.
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tbh that's hilarious and I will probably try it myself to see if it works.
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@FrenziedRoach said:
I thought it when I first saw it, but the evidence points overwhelmingly more to Hellraiser.
Samara would be cool though. I love that creepy chick.
The target is round, and held together with nails. Just like an old timey well lid.
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@Power_Guy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/272804/oh-man-i-bet-the-killer-is-chad
Nono; The Star Wars Holiday Special on VHS. :D
Oh, he can use a micro VHS instead. He goes all Kain from See No Evil and just shoves it into your mouth so hard it breaks your neck from the inside
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Watch it actually be The Blob.
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@ComedyHour said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2426518#Comment_2426518
It's cheating regardless of anything the devs say. There is no way to use voice comms in the game without using external tools, that makes it cheating.
So would it be cheating if I was in the same room as someone and actually IRL talk to them?
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I feel most people complaining are just mad they have to actually try now
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@Almo said:
This recommendation is in no way meant to sell DLCs, but I guess it will sound that way. Play them all. At least one should click. You just say to yourself, "Oh. This is the one." That's how it was for me with Pig.
lmao this is pretty much exactly what I did and still wound up hard maining Wraith.
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@CapricornZeus3 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2423125#Comment_2423125
And do u honestly think that guy meant gay as in annoying?
I'm not going to just assume he is.
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He probably has base kit a hook and reel like Slinger, but can perk into a trap on things instead of a reel.
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Openly gay male, here. No, that's not targeted harassment. That word has multiple meanings, and one of them is synonymous with "annoying."