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@Cyro said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/751190#Comment_751190
It's quite clear I won't get anywhere trying to properly formulate an argument against you. It's a trend with these forums that someone is either killer or survivor. I however choose to look at it from both perspectives and be fair to both sides.
However I'm going to try now.
Here is what you seem to miss about the survivors perspective. Their ONLY objective is to do gens, what you are calling genrush is the survivors simply doing what the game wants them to do. Voice comms only apply to SWF and even then you must think that every single SWF is on the level of the depip squad, constantly announcing every single thing the killer is doing to have the utmost advantage; this doesn't happen in every game and people need to stop acting like it does happen in all their games.
Obviously you're going to bump into a SWF group that is going to kick your tushy, but you act like you're completely helpless against them, you aren't. Myself and tons of other people have gone against tryhard SWF teams and have won, you just have to play much better with less mistakes. I'm not saying SWF is okay right now, it isn't okay and it does need to fall into line with how the general balancing of the game is.
Let's take a look at what happened when they made another killer with VERY limited counterplay, the Spirit.
Nearly everybody is up in arms against Spirit because of her power being near impossible to counterplay because at the end of the day you can't counter what you can't see, you can take an educated guess but even if you guess right you didn't outplay her, you guessed right.
Killers are in the best spot they've ever been in Dead by Daylight before but each side is screaming that one side needs more or this needs a nerf or a buff. At the end of the day each killer should have a form of counterplay to their kit so it isn't a complete stomp fest with nothing they could do, this is what Nurse was before, a killer with her basekit completely ruining the survivors ability to do anything against her aside from LOS breaks and just hoping she guessed wrong.
My solution to gen rush? Find the weakest link and tunnel him. He either DC's or he dies. Rinse and repeat.
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Nope.
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@PumpkinKing said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/752614#Comment_752614
Ps4. Mentioned towards the bottom.
Ah. Played on Xbox with Michael earlier, got called a camping tunneling hacker. Was fun.
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Definitely a net nerf. Not a buff
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What platform?
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Not even good bait. Come back when you want to put some effort in.
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@blonde_b said:
Right, because only survivors, can be toxic, right? Basically, killer mains ... just want survivors to come into the game and just stand there, so they can get the kills. They don’t want to work for it, they cry and complain until devs change all the perks to suit the killer and allow the killer to do the usual camp and tunnel!! Heaven forbid, someone brings in a flashlight, and they’re automatically toxic, because they blind you!! THAT, is BS!!!
It's toxic when they t-bag, point and use a macro to click so fast the game crashes. Oh, and, it is pretty cool to be called racial slurs in the post-match chat when you win.
Stop trying to make this a Killer v Survivor. It's people who aren't toxic versus people that are.
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@jeyers said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/748447#Comment_748447
I am well aware of the hate and vitrol and sarcasm the killer mains on this forum are utilizing to keep their perks buffed and survivors nerfed.
But i have a hope that the devs are able to adjust Moris now that survivors got even weaker.
Glad that you acknowledge its only one side...
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What's the status on console optimization?
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@TAG said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/749364#Comment_749364
No duh. That's like saying you'd trade the new Syringe for the old one. :P
EW1 wasn't strong tho, that's the issue. There were zero complaints.
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@Peanits said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/749212#Comment_749212
Not quite a bug. Myers was changed to have Undetectable in EW1 along with several other killers. That means his aura cannot be read, he has no terror radius, and he has no stain. However, that also means that he is not immune to detection perks (aura reading aside).
This is to:
- Make him consistent with other stealth killers.
- Make those perks do what they're intended to do.
Short version, not a bug, just a result of a different change.
I would trade Undetectable for old EW1.
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@AliXnm said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/747135#Comment_747135
Yes. Something happens I record it and add it to my captures.
Ah, you have my sympathy. Try to upload to OneDrive, download it onto the computer, then upload. Worked well for me.
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@AliXnm said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/746940#Comment_746940
Who says I edit them? I don’t I record them as soon as something happens.
Xbox?
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@AliXnm said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/746761#Comment_746761
It’s a fact because I know and so does everyone else I play with and I can prove it with all my games clips. And I have a RIGHT to post my opinion on what this game needs to do to make it better.
Prove it then. If you can, surely people will believe you. However, seeing as you are the one making these claims, the burden of proof falls to you, sir.
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@Mandy said:
@StupidButTru it seems that you are intent to try to pick a fight with me, please don't go there and please keep this thread on topic before I close it.
Don't take it personally, he does that with everyone. Not trying to be rude towards him, but, he likes to fight people.
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@StupidButTru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/746703#Comment_746703
Do this apply to killer mains also or just survivors
What kind of question is that?! It applies to everyone!
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@AliXnm said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/746639#Comment_746639
How am I being hostile? Explain.
Just in this thread.
"No, nurse isn’t added to the list because she’s now broken with her new add ons. She’s not nerfed. Stop talking about the killers and address the survivor situation with how much you’re nerfing them. I will literally make a compilation and post it on YouTube and send you the link OF ALL THE TOXIC THINGS YOU ALLOW THESE KILLERS TO DO and not do anything about it.
Its like they’re your babies and when they complain you stick a pacifier in their mouth. Cradle them. And fix the problem. But as soon as a survivor complain we get out posts taken down and get nerfed...WHY?"
you gotta nerf our stuff then say you’re gonna “buff” something but in reality it’s still useless.
"we complain about the same things OVER AND OVER and nothing get changed so what’s up with that???? the lag, vaulting ,killers tracking everything we do even our HEALING.....it’s ridiculous."
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When people say viable, what i think they mean is able to contend with the best Survivors. If you had a perfect game, and the Survivors had a perfect game, then you should kill two of them at least. Except, that isn't the case with most of the roster.
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@Bravo0413 said:
Shes safe for now..... if you look in to a Q&A horvath mentions Doc and Myers after stating that they wanna give nurse the overhaul.... itll be good touching on either doc or Myers tbh.... both need help... with what the team knows and is capable of I bet they could do some really good shiet with Doc now...
Freddy lives now let's see Doc breathe and exhale RED.
PLEASE JUST BUFF LEGION
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@AliXnm said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/745989#Comment_745989
I guarantee they won’t win.
Why not? There are NUMEROUS examples as to why this will happen. Do you deny all of them?
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@arslaN said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/745989#Comment_745989
I didn't say survivors are weak or anything. Just wondering which killers got nerfed to the ground
Wrong person, I think.
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@arslaN said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/745966#Comment_745966
Survivors have gotten nerfed consistantly for years and they still keep playing
Can you please list these killers that got nerfed to the ground? @nos4a2
Survivors are still the power role of this game. If you take a team of the best Survivors versus the best Killer, the Survivors will win.
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@arslaN said:
Survivors got nerfed to the ground and they still keep playing.
One killer gets fixed and you start whining like killers keep getting nerfed.
Explain?
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@AliXnm said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/745858#Comment_745858
Do you play survivor often?
Rank 1 on Survivor and Killer, sorry if that wasn't clear.
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@AliXnm said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/745679#Comment_745679
I’m on console. Not PC.
survivors on console stand no chance even before they talked about nerfing instant heals. we can’t 360, these killers run regression perks on healing AND gens like sloppy butcher and thanatophobia with pop goes the weasel AND have at least 1 tracking perk like BBQ ...surveillance....or nurses...
plus all they have to do is listen because survivors breathe so loud 😂 I was crouched in a corner and the killer legit ran in front of me with her back turned. Looked left then right. Then turned around and hit me like what?! 😂 I wasn’t injured or anything and they didn’t have on whispers or anything to know I was there.
I am on console. Survivors CAN 360 on console. I'm at Rank 1 on Xbox and Killers have a very difficult time tracking it due to garbage sensitivity. Sloppy and Thana are bad perks. PGTW is really good, BBQ is good, Nurse's is good and Survelliance isn't great.
Survivors do not breathe very loud at all. Stridor makes it loud but it isn't a great perk. It sounds like you play at around Rank 10, judging from the fact you pointed out several very counterable perks and you tried to stealth.
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@AliXnm said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/745636#Comment_745636
OH. okay. Easy. I would at least make it like it was before.
• Killers can’t hit you over vaults or pallets.
• If I gave killers instant downs I’d let survivors have instant heals ONLY for themselves not a downed survivor.
• I’d let the game run off the own players latency not the killers to make it fair.
• AND I’d make the killers actually use their power to get kills (like nurse.) <- that’s why you don’t come across many.. Like spirit, use her phasing to speed up to you.
• Hit boxes are ridiculous they’d be fixed. Like the huntresses hatchets the hit box is too much It’s her power, either practice or don’t play her.
Any Killer buffs to compensate? Or do you feel even optimal Survivors stand no chance at the moment?
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@AliXnm said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/745604#Comment_745604
You are always in here chillin I see 😂 but what do you mean? What would I do?
If you had control over the game, what would you do?
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@AliXnm said:
They came in handy when killers wanted to tunnel. What’s next our keys?! I swear killers are quick to complain about something to get us nerfed and it works! But when we complain we just need to “get good.” The devs are insane. Things get worse after every patch and you’d think they’d care to notice but no. 😒
What would you do.
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@HellCatJane said:
I'm waiting for PTB to decide.
Probably a good idea.
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@AokiiSenpaii said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/744735#Comment_744735
Hey. I understand you. I main survivors. So I must be an ######### that kept crying right?
Actually. False. I play Killer too. I just don't main it. And I just saw the broken aspect of her whilst playing her. You don't have to main a Killer or a Side to see that there IS a problem with a Killer. She is not getting a HARD nerf. She merely needs a short period to charge up her blinks. Spirit also has to wait a long time before using her power again and yet she is one of the best Killers in the game.
Just wait until the PTB is out. Play the Nurse. And then judge. This just speculation and childishly attacking people that prefer playing the other side is just stupid.
By the way. That's why you usually don't play a Killer without Add-Ons. Guess what they are for :)
She is dangerously close to having a Legion-esque power. If she hits a Survivor, they gain very close to her maximum blink distance.
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Devs said "mostly add-ons and a slight tweak to base power."
It was NOT a slight tweak.
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@ThanksgivingTitty said:
I can't remember who on the forums said it but they essentially said "mark my words... this is gonna be a huge nerf" Guess they was right lol
Coulda been me.
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Yeah, there are a few Nurse's on console and I've talked to several, its pretty much killed her on console.
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@GrootDude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/743353#Comment_743353
I’ve been looking forward to the archives ever since they got announced!
Yeah! I'm sorry for being so negative man, I'm gonna try to look at the positive side of things!
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@GrootDude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/743340#Comment_743340
Us poor console plebs can’t test it. D: I can’t wait to see some gameplay. :)
Yeah, rip us console players :(. Still I am looking forward to the Archives!
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@GrootDude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/743311#Comment_743311
Regardless of how we all feel, the ptb will come and it’ll be time to test things.
Well, not for us console plebs, but yes, I am reserving my final judgement for the PTB.
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@GrootDude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/743281#Comment_743281
Tbh any change done to nurse would’ve sparked a reaction, even just an add on change.
It would have, however, like I said, a lot of people feel lied to. I agree, ANY change to Nurse would have ignited a powder keg. However, they didn't have to toss that powder keg into a room full of more powder kegs.
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@GrootDude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/743253#Comment_743253
Every time something is announced you’ll see a huge reaction.
How many people do you see rejoicing that Nurse got nerfed? Not many.
Regardless on if you think this is a big nerf or not, you must agree that this is huge for the game. The most dominant Killer with the second highest skill ceiling, Huntress still #1, got nerfed at the request of half the community.
THAT, that is very big.
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@GrootDude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/743239#Comment_743239
If she needs it then I’m sure they’ll buff her but I don’t think the change is that major.
I think, considering the reaction, it can be classified as major.
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@GrootDude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/743219#Comment_743219
I still think she’ll be good, if she isn’t then she can always be adjusted before hitting live.
Yeah man, I don't know. I don't think she'll be Legion, but, she won't be great. I feel lied to because this is a major change to base kit and this was supposed to be a minor adjustment to base and a add-on rework.
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@GrootDude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/743208#Comment_743208
Your cooldown actually starts dropping while you’re fatigued so you only need to wait 3.5 seconds to use your blinks again.
Ah, that makes it better. However, count the charge time and her slow movement speed. Survivors are still making a ton of distance on a VERY slow Killer.
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@GrootDude said:
If three seconds is a lot of time in dbd then mindbreaker is a top tier perk.
Three seconds is a lot of time when you use both blinks and land a hit. That bumps it up to a six second cooldown and a stun. Survivors will get close to Nurse's maximum blink range of distance by getting hit. She is very close to having her power hurt more than help.
I'll wait for the PTB, but, I'm not hopeful.
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@ad19970 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/742600#Comment_742600
Have to disagree. I just don't believe that giving survivors a bit more time to break line of sight will ruin her in any way. It just allows for actual fair counterplay for survivors in my opinion.
It's the fact that some people, myself included, said that if they touched her power, it would end up like Legion where it hurts him to use it. This power is DANGEROUSLY close to that, my math may be wrong, but, Survivors gain about the same distance that the Nurse can blink, if she hits them.
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@Peanits said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/741506#Comment_741506
Given that it is now very situational and easy to avoid, it doesn't seem to be necessary. Three seconds of stun time (of which you're locked into an animation for one second) is not enough of a deterrent to make the perk worthwhile.
I disagree, Survivors can put you into a lose-lose situation. You slug them? Unbreakable Dead Hard or Flip-Flop. They jump in a locker? Head On and Inner Strength. You pick them up? Now you're just tunneling.
Give Killers an incentive to not tunnel.
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@ad19970 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/742534#Comment_742534
Nah they are of course not the exact same thing. But the comparison fits in my opinion. Killer mains crying out because something of their side that was incredibly powerful got nerfed to be more balanced to play against. At least I just don't see how Nurse is in any way bad now. I believe Nurse will still be very powerful.
Could be wrong but from preliminary math, it looks like Nurse will actually be stunned for long enough that Survivors will be able to run outside of her maximum blink range.
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@ad19970 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/742513#Comment_742513
What do you mean? If you think the Legion rework is comparable to this one of Nurse, I would have to heavily disagree. Legion wasn't nearly as good as Nurse before his rework anyways, and this change just seems to bring her in line with other powerful killers that aren't op, like Freddy.
Her change destroyed her power. IF you hit a Survivor, it's at least a six second cooldown. Nurse moves at 96%. The Survivors get a massive amount of ground.
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Remember Legion...
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Yes, console sensitivity sucks.
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Nurse got Legion'd.
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@bootstr said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/741193#Comment_741193
I'm not that good, but I can tell when an experiment is unbalanced.
I'll try to show you if you got a ps4. You will get massive bragging rights if I'm wrong. And if i'm correct then maybe the add ons can be toned down a bit for the killers.
Just loop. He isn't good. The entire community against you, that should tell you something. I play on Xbox.