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Very well said.
I seem to know exactly who you were responding to.
Don't think that they are going to listen, regardless of who talks to them.
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I still don't like it.
Not saying it's censorship, but some of this ######### just rubs me the wrong way.
There are valid criticisms being laid out, but we aren't allowed to talk about them here.
Where else can we go?
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Here's a new clip. Just got back from vacation the other day, so I'm sorry for the lack of new clips.
Not sure if this is specifically Console, but I've never seen it on PC.
https://youtu.be/_0Y3oX7FVWI -
With Console Optimization essentially dead in the water, a HUGE clusterfuck in the community and an auto-ban system on the horizon, I'm not exactly feeling positive.
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Probably not because I'll pester then about Console Optimization lmao
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@Jasix said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2254476#Comment_2254476
I mean if you wanna be paranoid - that's your choice. I on the other hand see no reason to assume things because let's be real - no information was given in the stream to justify the wild assumptions people are posting. Just more hyperbole on the forums.
What else are we supposed to think when THIS is literally what they said on stream:
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@Jasix said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2252849#Comment_2252849
Never said it wasn't. It was an incredibly stupid idea to even announce it until it was completed and internally tested because the DBD community is about as paranoid as it gets. That being said - it does NO good to dwell on something we have no information about and that hasn't even been completed yet. All threads about this possible upcoming "feature" do is spread misinformation and hyperbole.
We are right to be paranoid.
If the system goes through as it was advertised in the stream, the game dies.
BHVR is notorious for not following through on things, I sincerely hope that this is one of those things.
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@Pulsar said:
This is a rant.
Recently, it's been getting more and more difficult to enjoy this game and to look over the glaring issues. The Console version of DBD is an absolute nightmare when it comes to optimization and trying to play the game in a similar way to PC.
I've reached my wits ends with the game constantly freezing and never getting above 25 FPS. How in the ######### am I supposed to counter a 360 if I am getting less than HALF of the frames I should be getting, I'm being denied visual information.
Have some videos demonstrating my point, if you have any of your own, please share them. Maybe we can get an answer out of BHVR about what happened to the Optimization we were promised if we make a big enough fuss.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl7zIxwMUn0&ab_channel=PulsarGaming360
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7p_8C649Rs&ab_channel=PulsarGaming360
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSa8yNir8wU&ab_channel=PulsarGaming360
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlwQc0rdiM0&ab_channel=PulsarGaming360
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tQaee-Od90&ab_channel=PulsarGaming360
Just in-case anyone wants to say it isn't an issue or that it's only an "X console" issue. Plenty of clips from PS4 and Xbox
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@Nathan13 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2253116#Comment_2253116
this ain't gonna blow over as long as the freezes and stuff keep happening.
I'm also not going to let it blow over
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@Jasix said:
They are not going to give any clarity because the system isn't even finished being developed. Maybe wait until they have completed it, done internal testing, and actually give us any information before speculating or worrying about it.
It's completely their fault.
The community is extremely worried with the info they have given us.
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@JPLongstreet said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2252785#Comment_2252785
If you're having trouble running this game on a very decent PC, what hope is there for us consolers???
None
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2252726#Comment_2252726
With the large console player base and the fact it's been asked for for literally years, you'd think it would've creeped up the priority list by now.
I mean, you'd think so.
But then again, it took 4 years for Iri Head to be nerfed so.
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Perhaps you'd be interested in the following thread.
@Pulsar said:
This is a rant.
Recently, it's been getting more and more difficult to enjoy this game and to look over the glaring issues. The Console version of DBD is an absolute nightmare when it comes to optimization and trying to play the game in a similar way to PC.
I've reached my wits ends with the game constantly freezing and never getting above 25 FPS. How in the ######### am I supposed to counter a 360 if I am getting less than HALF of the frames I should be getting, I'm being denied visual information.
Have some videos demonstrating my point, if you have any of your own, please share them. Maybe we can get an answer out of BHVR about what happened to the Optimization we were promised if we make a big enough fuss.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl7zIxwMUn0&ab_channel=PulsarGaming360
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7p_8C649Rs&ab_channel=PulsarGaming360
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSa8yNir8wU&ab_channel=PulsarGaming360
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlwQc0rdiM0&ab_channel=PulsarGaming360
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tQaee-Od90&ab_channel=PulsarGaming360
I use the Xbox One X, which runs EVERY other game I own just fine. DBD runs like ######### no matter what.
If you've got any clips, feel free to post them.
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There is a 28 page thread detailing the numerous issues with Console, if you'd like to check it out.
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Yes, I do.
If they want to bring a Key, they are going to have a bad time.
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@DoctorDarling said:
While this is a very valid complaint, so many of y'all show how entitled and clueless you are that ~nobody even CARES~ in general but also someone wanted to help you out but ~ITS BEEN WEEKS~
DLC era of gamers are a treat
Clearly, people do care.
And it isn't entitlement to expect to be able to play the product as it was advertised.
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@Ryuzaki said:
I always wonder why BHVR never fulfilled their promise of optimization on consoles, surely the majority of the DBD playerbase is on PS4 and Xbox One?
I would think so.
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@Nathan13 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2251701#Comment_2251701
I'm gonna wait a few weeks to see how the update runs and then make my decision on whether or not I'll buy it.
I'll post some videos when I get it
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@QwQw said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2249656#Comment_2249656
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2249708#Comment_2249708
Man, that's really sad to hear. It'd really suck to see you two go, but if you really don't want to be apart of this game anymore (which let's be real here, is completely understandable) I won't stop you.
Oh, I'll still be here on the Forums. Can't let BHVR off the hook that easily.
I'm going to buy the RE DLC and if it runs like I think it will, I'll be a Forum member only.
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@BrokenSouI said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2250488#Comment_2250488
Well. At least you get to experience the blight in all his glory now
After nearly a year of him being unplayable
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@BrokenSouI said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2250480#Comment_2250480
Fair enough. I forget console a lot. Not gonna lie.
It's okay.
BHVR does too
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Console
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This was attempted long ago and was heavily abused
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@WexlerWendigo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2250467#Comment_2250467
There are none when you need to stand still directly at the hook. Not once have I advocated against proxy camping.
PH cages affect proxy'ing.
You'd have to code one hell of a system and tbh I don't think BHVR is capable of it
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@MadLordJack said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2250441#Comment_2250441
So what you're telling me is that there is a completely incorrect usage of the term "power role" that I have never heard of in all my years as a gamer or in my time in game development that people think Tru3ta1ent has been using whilst he complains that killers should be in control and survivors should be terrified?
Can you re-phrase that?
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@WexlerWendigo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2250449#Comment_2250449
I don’t think it would if the time to move was increased from the cages. If it was around 20 seconds, survivors would have a hard time abusing it.
There are situations where you need to camp
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@PureDoctorMain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2250442#Comment_2250442
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/IGWTQJHTSEFT/screen-shot-2021-06-07-at-7-55-53-am.png
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/135950GE9L9X/screen-shot-2021-06-07-at-7-56-00-am.png
Sorry for the bad quality but you can see its a more simplified logo and it looks worse well to me at least
Why it kinda look like rocket league
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There's a Claudette here.
how am i supposed to see her
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@WexlerWendigo said:
Also, they already have an anti-camping mechanic in the game for PH’s cages. A similar system being implemented, perhaps with a longer time for the survivor to move wouldn’t weaken regular killers, but stop the standing still.
It'd be abused.
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@MadLordJack said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2250288#Comment_2250288
No, he's not, there is no such thing as a "power role" in a PvP game. The "power role" is the role that is in charge and dictates the flow of game itself, a good example being DM's. No side in any PvP game is supposed to control the other, assymetrical or otherwise, which is where the entire concept of "balance" comes in.
You are not supposed to have a power trip playing killer.
You have no context of what I'm referring to.
The power role is supposed to be at a slight disadvantage during the 4v1 section but become progressively stronger as the game goes on.
The numbers role is supposed to be at a slight advantage during the 4v1 but become weaker as the game continues.
Power, in this case, simply means the role which can compete with 4 others.
As for Tru3, he was saying this at a time when Survivors held a much larger advantage over Killers than they do today, making them both the power and numbers role. If he still maintains the same belief today, I think he's wrong.
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@WexlerWendigo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2250412#Comment_2250412
Irrelevant to the discussion at hand. As I said, I am not SWF so anything regarding that has nothing to do with me. Solo survivor is weaker than killer, or at the very worst, even.
It is relevant.
The answer is, of course, that there aren't enough Killers.
This is because of a disparity where Killers can be good against Solo's but AWFUL against Duo's or above.
Solo Survivor needs to be buffed with information and most Killers will need buffs after that.
Even then, Killer is much more emotionally and mentally exhausting, but those changes would help queue times and in turn, result in less frustrated players feeding into a toxic system.
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@WexlerWendigo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2250362#Comment_2250362
This isn’t me having an issue, the games recently were my teammates being facecamped, it’s not fair or fun after waiting forever in the queue.
And why are queue's so long for Survivor?
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@Vyne456 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2250402#Comment_2250402
Oh ok. Do you play on Xbox, if you said gg on the PC I can't look at the chat sadly. 😕
I do play on Xbox
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@Vyne456 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2250387#Comment_2250387
Alright give me the intel my man.
I said gg.
And I probably won.
Idk anything besides that
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I remember you.
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@Brhoom said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2250315#Comment_2250315
Your argument is that your experience somehow means more than multiple Bubba mains on this forum... ok.
If the Bubba gets an early-down, there isn't enough time to finish all gens, cleanse all totems to prevent the noed and/or bitter murmur combo, and alert all survivors that I'm being camped.
There isn't enough time.
Unless this is a tryhard 4 man swf the game is over. The only time I have survived this was with a 3 swf game where I was flashlight saved and lucky noed spawn.
I thought you would know this since you're an experienced survivor and we are all classic new players.
Nah, my actual argument is that it's so uncommon it doesn't really matter.
It probably occurs about as often as a deathsquad SWF.
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@WexlerWendigo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2250315#Comment_2250315
Doesn’t matter how many hours you have in the game, you can’t magically get yourself off the hook with a facecamping killer. The other survivors will have waited 10 minutes in a queue to just sit on gens all game. Also, a lot of survivors, including myself don’t want our team to have a miserable experience with a killer who has somehow reached red rank despite having no idea how to play.
Otz clearly isn’t a new player, and neither am I. I have 500 hours in the game, and yes I’m sure others will have more, but that certainly isn’t ‘new’. We can be good at the game and still think facecamping is an issue.
500 hours is sort of new, definitely not brand new but not super experienced either.
You clearly had a bad game and need time to cool off. You refuse to consider any other points and are completely missing the bigger picture.
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@WexlerWendigo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2250303#Comment_2250303
Because this isn’t an issue with new players. This is happening frequently at red ranks. I agree, it’s complicated and we need to be mindful of newer players, but killers at red rank should know better. It’s quite common for games to have a code of ethics for players to agree to, and this should be looked into for DBD.
I haven't seen a facecamper in a LONG time. 6+ months. It really isn't an issue in Red Ranks.
You just want people to play a certain way. It's like banning t-bagging.
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@_VTK_ said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2250288#Comment_2250288
Stats show otherwise though. 70% killrate in red ranks is definitely not too weak, it's too strong.
Those stats cannot be used in arguments as they are given without ANY context.
It was also confirmed that the games sampled were not with Red Ranked Survivors only.
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@Brhoom said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2250215#Comment_2250215
Unless the team a 4 man swf, the game is a loss, especially with an early-down (even SWF will lose.
Otz proved it, multiple Bubba mains here proved it (all red ranks with +50 4k win streaks)
The thread was made because this ''strat'' is uncounterable.
Learn how to argue with other members instead of being rude.
Otz is just a guy.
I've had the complete opposite experience. Facecamping is an instant loss for any Killer. 3 gens pop for 1 Kill.
This is a classic new player issue. There's no harm nor shame in admitting that.
Most experienced Survivors do not have issues with Facecamping Killers
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@WexlerWendigo said:
Undying was still stupid on low mobility killers, it was poor game design period.
Huge disagree, it'd be fine if BHVR could buff Solo's at all.
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2250292#Comment_2250292
In conclusion we can have it back when bhvr finally sorts solo queue out.
So we're never having it back.
Correct.
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@WexlerWendigo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2250281#Comment_2250281
Killers have a huge amount of perks to prevent gens popping early, so the comparison doesn’t really work. SWF gen rushing I’m not going to discuss, because as I said above, has nothing to do with me. I play solo queue, and occasionally casual duo.
Never said anything about slugging, camping or tunnelling (at least not when the tunnelling isn’t after a facecamp). Slugging is one of the fairest mechanics in the game. I feel like you’re trying to skew my words, and portray me as an unreasonable survivor main, when I’m literally just advocating for more punishments for killers who stand still.
They already de-pip and Survivors can easily 2E if not 3E.
Why do you want to punish new/bad players so much?
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@MadLordJack said:
Tru3ta1ent used to go on and on about power roles, I don't know if he started it but he certainly helped spread it. I'd never heard of the notion in DbD.
He was right.
By definition, asymmetrical games have a numbers role and a power role. He often complained that the numbers role (Survivor) was too strong and that the power role (Killer) was too weak.
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@BrokenSouI said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2250256#Comment_2250256
That's not why undying was changed at all. What are you talking about ? It was changed because it was OP on every character. Not just mobile killers who could better take advantage. There were matchs where Ruin would have to be cleansed 5 times
We get it. You dont like Pop, Ruin, Tinkerer on blight, Freddy, etc. Starstruck on a godly nurse. But nothing is too OP on those characters. That they need exemptions to what they can use.
There were also matches where Ruin was cleansed twice in under 45 seconds.
Seeing it cleansed 5 times was rare.
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@WexlerWendigo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2250238#Comment_2250238
What factual evidence? Can you give statistics or reasoning for how BHVR determined what is ‘taking the game hostage’? I’m completely capable of understanding the current rules, I am merely advocating for them to be revisited to create a less toxic game for everyone.
Same as the other guy, you really need to grow up and not be condescending when people disagree with you. :)
It is upon you, the one who wants change, to provide proof for your claims.
BHVR has consistently said tunneling, camping and slugging are a part of the game.
You want the rules to change based off of your own subjective feelings, not based off of any evidence I suspect.
If so, can we ban doing 3 gens in under 4 minutes? It's toxic and unfair to Killers as it denies them emblem points. :)
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2250240#Comment_2250240
Totem spawns are the way they are, I think, because of solo survivor. Buff solo information in terms of totems and then superbuff totem spawns
But no a basekit totem counter is too difficult isn't it, BHVR?
Indeed.
Seems BHVR has trouble following through on good ideas.
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2250219#Comment_2250219
You're saying this like I don't advocate for better totem spawns my guy.
Except one was changed in 3 months and the other has been in the game for close to 4 years.
Not much hope that they'll get better, tbh.
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@WexlerWendigo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2250230#Comment_2250230
Good for them, doesn’t mean I can’t believe that standing still at the hook as Bubba shouldn’t be allowed. There is a massive difference between camping and standing still at the hook.
Then you're blatantly wrong and refusing factual evidence.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/62203/holding-the-game-hostage/p1
Ergo, your argument has no meaning and is therefore useless.
Enjoy :)
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@WexlerWendigo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2250217#Comment_2250217
I think it is, don’t really care if you don’t quite frankly. As I said, there’s no dictionary definition, it is subjective. I don’t think being in favour of a game where killers can stand still is a good hill to die on.
The Devs have outlined what consists of taking the game hostage very clearly, as it is a bannable offense.
Camping is not one of them.