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@Morpheus_7_ said:
there are strong killer players and weak killer players! the game certainly has problems, but it's not unplayable ... if you know how to play!
That isn't what we are talking about.
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@gendoss said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2346831#Comment_2346831
Lol "aren't up for logical discussion"? I see that people here really just label anybody who mainly plays survivor as unfit for discussion.
Who said anything about what you play?
It sure wasn't me.
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@Seraphor said:
Stop saying "on console". You mean PS4. It's fine on PS5.
Majority of people play on PS4, PS4 Pro/Xbox One, S and X.
It isn't unreasonable to say "on Console" when referring to those.
Just say next-gen if you are referring to Series X/PS5
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Full Legion rework. He'll never be out of bottom tier without it.
Add-on pass for Twins, Freddy and Billy
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@gendoss said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2346821#Comment_2346821
So you're playing an unplayable game...? I thought it was unplayable...
Oh yes, ha ha.
It's figurative.
When the game runs at 25 FPS but freezes whenever:
Someone enters chase
Someone screws up a skill check
A new status effect appears
Someone uses an Exhaustion perk
Bloodlust kicks in
A pallet is dropped
A gen is completed
A vault occurs
A gate is opened
That's not what I would call playable, but I'm not going to argue with you.
You've already demonstrated that you aren't up for a logical discussion and based off of your other opinions, I have no interest in further wasting either of our times.
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@gendoss said:
I know for a fact that killer is not unplayable on console because there are plenty of Twins mains that are playing just fine on console right now. Stop trying to call the game unplayable because every person that is playing on console right now would disagree with you.
I play on Console and I agree.
It ######### sucks to be at such a huge disadvantage
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@Shdw_Void said:
At least BHVR is addressing the fact that they're working on the stuttering issues and know the cause. I mean with everyone talking about hard drives its hard not to know. I'm glad they said that they aren't putting out another hot-fix so they can focus on console stuttering. I'm not worshiping BHVR, I'm just glad they are prioritizing these horrendous problems
Perhaps, but I'm much too cynical at this point.
I've heard and seen enough from BHVR to seriously doubt what they say.
In essence, I'll believe it when I see it
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@Grandpa_Crack_Pipe said:
Because people are already getting like 400-500% extra bloodpoints every match for the anniversary anyway?
A two week period where you can get an adequate amount of BP doesn't make up for the other 50 weeks where you cannot.
Besides, some people can't even enjoy the event.
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So, it's what I said when he released. He's anorher Legion.
Can't buff him without making him P A I N to play against, but he's super weak without buffs.
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@Hex_Ignored said:
I do not think any killer needs a full rework.
I do however think that some killers need some serious buffs:
Trapper, legion, pig, ghostface, myers, clown, trickster and my favorite, nemesis, come to mind
Can't really buff Legion without making him broken again.
He needs a rework.
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@The_Krapper said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2339995#Comment_2339995
You can get a decent gaming rig for like 600 dollars that will run plenty of games , that's fine if you never want to make the switch but don't complain when your out of date hardware isn't running games properly if you decide to choose that path knowing the outcome
The hardware isn't out of date.
If I switch to PC, I don't want a "decent" rig that will more or less be the same experience as my current Console. I want a better experience, which can easily hike up prices into the thousands
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@The_Krapper said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2339368#Comment_2339368
This is why people should switch to PC over a new gen console anyday, one day the PS5 or series x will have the same issue , PC won't ever have this problem and can be upgraded over time instead of all at once
Still end up costing more.
Also, I'm literally never switching to PC.
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@Ruma said:
The update was a COMPLETE MESS.
Especially for console.
This was because, just like they said themselfes: They didnt expected such console problems since they couldnt test it before.
Now last gen players, cant even really play during this damn 5th year anniversary!
This should show them, that they NEED to bring the PTB to consoles as well!
And yes, it is possible to do so. Other games like PUBG and i think Smite also got PTBs for consoles and while of course its a bit more work, it will greatly help in the long run.
Especially sincw they arent putting much work anyway..
Take your time and give us the PTB already!
They did test it on Console.
They had a Known Issues section on the bottom of the Patch Notes for 5.0.0 that specified issues with Xbox/PS
They tested it and decided it was acceptable
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Yes, it's good for Survivor, but it's still awful to play on for both roles.
It has all the problems of indoor maps and all the problems of Red Forest.
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BHVR has said they are investigating an issue with the HDD.
Maybe things will return to pre-RE patch levels of awful instead of what we have now or maybe they'll be worse idk. The issue is that the Mid-Chapter comes out AFTER THE ANNIVERSARY EVENT ENDS.
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@umad said:
Here are some more. ######### are we supposed to do?
Suffer, unfortunately.
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@GannTM said:
I feel bad for last gen people. They deserve the love they deserve yet they devs still don’t do anything to fix the issue they have.
It's pretty clear that they think of us as second class players.
No support.
No optimization.
No Fog Whisperers.
We've never been their priority, always an afterthought.
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@Lord_Tony said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2339259#Comment_2339259
but it's being updated graphically constantly, how much can last gen hold?
Enough for Battlefront 2 to run incredibly smoothly at 30+ FPS.
This is a BHVR problem, not a Console issue. Plus, my One X was built in 2018, not 2013.
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Great.
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@th3 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2339024#Comment_2339024
So the game will be in a state of near unplayability for consoles until after the limited time event?
Sure seems that way.
We'll be lucky if they fix it.
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Any updates usually go live at 11 AM EST, which is in a little less than 2 hours.
I'd suspect we'd see an announcement of a patch soon.
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@WeenieDog said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2338048#Comment_2338048
from: https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/262994/developer-update-july-2021#latest
"So what’s going to change?
Simply put, the server will become the judge. When you either drop a pallet or swing your weapon, that gets sent to the server. If the server receives a hit before a stun, the Killer hits the Survivor as they normally would. But if the server receives a stun before a hit, the hit is rejected. This is similar to how hit validation works now."
It kind of has server side timestamps that check everything. Probably won't be that noticeable on low ping, but hopefully no one is getting hit from mars or shadow survivors that just phase through weapons.
Also: I really hope this cuts down VPN gaming over vast distances.
Bruh, I need a VPN since I'm getting DDoS'd seemingly every week.
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@gendoss said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2338644#Comment_2338644
No it's obviously not normal but my game can stutter too, man. They'll fix it sometime soon but either stop complaining about it because we know it's an issue or just play the game like every other console player I play with.
They said they'd fix Console issues 2 years ago too.
Sure haven't seen that either.
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@Itooshie said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2337863#Comment_2337863
Okay, again, im not referring to console optimization.
Im referring to fixing the issues that were caused by the RE update. Console optimization is another discussion entirely.
They are tied together.
RE was likely the straw that broke the camel's back with optimization.
Can't fix it unless you address the underlying issue.
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@Itooshie said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2337825#Comment_2337825
Yeah, i was on ps4 for 2 years until I got my ps5, but thats not nearly as bad as whats going on now.
Stop twisting the situation 🙄
No, it wasn't, but it was still pretty terrible.
Look on my thread for pre-RE patch footage, people were talking about this before RE. It just caught on because MORE people are having issues and because BHVR hasn't ever done anything about it, despite saying they would.
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@Itooshie said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2337769#Comment_2337769
Thats because its a definite statement. If you really think they will leave the game in the state it is for last gen, you're just being intellectually dishonest.
They left it in it's pre-RE state for years.
They lied to our faces about optimization on several occasions.
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It really isn't good.
Most of the time I've been sentenced to it, people have either crashed or just DC'd.
Very few people like it.
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@Predated said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2337349#Comment_2337349
To be fair, you cant really call a game that's constantly recieving updates a 5 year old game. You could install the 2016 version of DBD and play it just fine. 5.0 is by all definitions a 2021 game.
Could this game be better performance-wise if they recoded the entire game to have a better core? Yes, definitely, but it IS a 2021 game. League of Legends 2021 doesnt perform well on a pc from 2010, even though its a 10 year old game. Same for Minecraft. So yes, if you have an older rig and refuse to update your hardware even though the software keeps recieving updates, at one point, your hardware will fail on you because the software requires better hardware.
SSD is getting cheaper every 3 months, its almost never worth getting an HDD anymore if you enjoy playing games. Developers in the majority of companies are going to assume you're able to at least buy an SSD. Heck, I've connected my SSD and HDD together, where my HDD can preload neccesary files to my SSD so I can keep my SSD relatively clean and empty. Let alone the fact that there are many reasons to buy an SSD over an HDD too other than just loadspeeds.
Yeah, if DBD is your only game, it's a bit much for a price, but if your graphics card starts failing, if your processor starts failing, it will need replacement, if DBD is your only game, all those costs are also needed to make a "5 year old game" playable, because BHVR isnt going to make the game work for outdated hardware.
DBD is the issue, not the hardware.
No other game runs as poorly as DBD, even on the base Xbox One and PS4.
Battlefront II, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V, CoD: MW, CoD: CW, Sea of Thieves, Overwatch and Siege are all lightyears more intense than DBD but still run better.
The only games that I can think of that are comparable are Cyberpunk and GTA Online during hectic moments. Not exactly good company to keep.
The issue lies with DBD and BHVR, not with the Console hardware.
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@legacycolt said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2337724#Comment_2337724
Let’s pray.
At least ptb is on Wednesday, that’s my only hope
@Shaped said:
No patches planned for tommorow right?
At this point, I just assume that any patch will make the issues worse.
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@OtakaChan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2337636#Comment_2337636
I think it could possibly be. With games now becoming more detailed and having better graphics it uses more ram and causes the machines to work harder. Since games are going more toward needing pc specs last gen was no where near that threshold and we are seeing specific games unable to function on them. More effects means more work as well. In order for everything to appear or act as it should, higher specs are needed in the hardware.
It's an optimization problem.
Quite frankly, compared to most other popular games right now, DBD looks like #########.
It isn't graphically intense.
It manages to run worse than LITERALLY every other game out there.
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@Orion said:
I just gotta ask: if the game is unplayable on console, why do you keep trying to play it? I've had one game that didn't work on my PC, through no fault of my PC. I just uninstalled it and called it a day.
For one, people expect a working product when they buy a game.
Two, it's not like the asymmetrical multiplayer horror market is booming. It's really DBD or bust.
Three, the game should run just fine on Console. The only reason it doesn't is due to some amount of unwillingness or incompetence.
Four, BHVR has made repeated PROMISES that kept people playing. Looking back now, it looks like BHVR played on people's hope and manipulated them to continue to play a broken game that they had NO plan of fixing.
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@shanny_boi said:
Is it really that bad on console? I play on PC and fortunately have experienced practically no performance issues. Did the last update really shatter the performance on console?
It's always been abysmal.
It just got worse.
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Continue to suffer.
I shouldn't have to pay 150 USD to make a 5 year old game playable.
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@Sypherpathic said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2283818#Comment_2283818
Not really. If you just stood there and they got all the gens done and ran out, it would be a terrible match for everyone.
Survivors need points from chases, healing and unhooks, not just generators. Really, a group that's just there to do generators and leave doesn't understand the game they're playing.
I apologize, I forgot escaping wasn't what high-level Survivors were trying to do.
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@Edgars_Raven said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2336519#Comment_2336519
I think the one x had an ssd anyway built in didnt it?
I believe so, I thought it was worth it to try.
It only took me 15 minutes to move DBD from my Internal to External, so I figured it wasn't a huge deal.
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@Edgars_Raven said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2335617#Comment_2335617
What console are you on? Xbox one s is like night and day
One X.
I believe @Shdw_Void also installed it on his external drive and saw no improvement
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Same.
I've been at R1 on both sides since April 2019.
I'm sure we'll run into each orher soon.
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@fr0sty1223 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2336243#Comment_2336243
I’m rank 4 and I play on Xbox
Oh?
Do you mind saying what region you play in? I also play on Xbox.
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@fr0sty1223 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2336225#Comment_2336225
Well the next game I got into was against a trapper who hardcore camped and tunneled one guy in the basement
What Rank are you at and what platform do you play on?
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@Mandy said:
Thanks for pointing that out @Aven_Fallen I've copied it to here:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/RS2BZLX9B8U3/zps9msm-5b1-5d.png
We make sure that by any means a Killer's power is not impaired by map characteristic.
For me, playing on the Xbox One X, that isn't true.
If I were to try to play Blight or Billy on Hawkins, Lery's or RCPD; I'd find it very difficult to use their powers at ALL, much less as intended.
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Nea actually looks kinda good now so I'm on board.
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I'm straight, but Steve and Leon.
Also Nancy.
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@Razorbeam said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2335827#Comment_2335827
It does crack me up when people take the term "last gen" and then try to apply it to consoles running DBD of all games, ######### im flying around doom eternal at the speed of light chainsawing and grapling hooking and and propelling into gore melee animations killing 100 enemies a minute without missing a beat but the highly complex dead by daylight with it's next gen graphics and it's maps twice the size of GTA, we gonna need to order a ps5 for that one.
Just remembered I have an SSD knocking about at home, just ordered a cable so gonna see if it helps.
Edit: on the plus side if enough of us find the SSD does fix the horrible stuttering issue that's plaguing consoles at least that can help point the devs in the direction of what needs optimising and looking into, because as much as it needs it I don't see them rewriting the entire code no matter how much they desperately need to.
At the rate it's deteriorating and considering that the RE patch is hurting every system, I give it a year before they have to re-write the code.
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@TragicSolitude said:
I'd love to see more than two zombies on the bigger maps.
Unfortunately, the devs said anything more than two zombies would tank the game's performance.
What performance?
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@reeves7 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2335795#Comment_2335795
Its not up to them,the game keeps getting bigger and bigger with more updates dlcs etc…. At this point they cant do anything so its in our hands to fix the problem. Ssd-ps5/xsx-pc
I forgot how games like RE: Village, Battlefront II and such don't run at a smooth and consistent framerate on the original 2013 Xbox One and PS4.
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@OniWantsYourMacaroni said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2335617#Comment_2335617
What SSD were you using?
Seagate Barracuda Fast SSD 1TB External Solid State Drive
sorry for the weird text, I just yoinked it off of their Amazon page
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I actually re-installed DBD on my own SSD and it doesn't seem to have done much
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@reeves7 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2332410#Comment_2332410
I verified by myself For 2 years straight ,the game on my ps4 was running perfectly. Why you’re responding like your feelings are hurt;
I forgot that since you had no issues, that means nobody else did either.
@OniWantsYourMacaroni aren't you on Ps4?
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@Razorbeam said:
Okay just had 3 games the stutters are far more manageable, any PS4 users I recommend you try this, check previous post.
I did this as well, doesn't seem to have helped much.
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@reeves7 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2328737#Comment_2328737
No,im on a basic ps4 to and the game was running perfectly like on pc before the resident evil update. Trust me the performance issues were mostly on xbox. This is a fun game but the incompetence/laziness and greediness of the team is what will lead this game to the downfall one day. They pushed 3 unfinished and problematic dlcs in a row,that’s unacceptable and inadmissible
That's literally verifiably false, don't make this a "it's this Console's fault because I never had issues before."