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@Dabihwow said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1528993#Comment_1528993
Right and besides I don't think he'll be in chapter 17 maybe chapter 18 or so but not 17
I'm almost 100% positive he wont be chapter 17, and I'm pretty sure he wont be chapter 18 either. However, I don't feel like its too unlikely to possibly see him after that.
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Before you guys get mad, remember that this is, in fact, an older thread, and instead of making a new thread, he just commented on this older one, like we've been encouraging.
If you know me on the forums, you know my stance on the situation. I like the idea, but I don't think it'd be a bad idea to let some other potential characters take the spotlight for a little bit. Springtrap will inevitably come up again sometime down the line, especially if chapter 17 or 18 contains a licensed videogame character. I hope he gets added someday, it would be a good investment from BHVRs PoV. As for the community, you have a ton of people that want it, you have some that are indifferent, and then you have some that are actively against the idea.
Ultimately, whether he gets into the game or not is BHVRs decision. If he gets in, super cool! I'd finally have one of my dream characters in DbD. If not, no huge deal. It'd suck, sure, but its by no means unbearable.
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I don't ever come across people asking for Sam and Dean Survivors, but to be fair, I'm also not really looking. Not against their inclusion or anything tho. I dont really think they should be S-Tier, but maybe High B-Tier to Low A-Tier.
Additionally, I think that Chucky should be bumped down to a Low A, and the Grudge to a Mid/High A. I don't really see too many people actively accepting Chucky the same way as other killers on that list, and the Grudge gets pretty good feedback, but she really isn't requested super often.
A Tier looks pretty solid, except Tony should be S-Tier w/o a doubt. However, how in god's name are Scooby Doo survivor skins Mid A-Tier, while FNaF is a C-? I see Scooby Doo survivors getting way less requested and way more hate, but perhaps we're not looking at the same places. I'd say a FNaF chapter should be bumped up to atleast Mid B-Tier, and Scooby Doo survivors should be at a High C/Low B at the highest imo.
I'd say The Thing should be a tiny bit higher (around a High C). I see people wanting him all the time, and even though I wouldn't care for him personally, I'd say he deserves a little more.
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@Lowkeysaurus said:
It's mostly a curiosity thing! I actually noticed that for me, I get a lot of Claudettes naturally, and for killers I go against a ton of Doctors.
What about you?
Huntress for killer, and for survivor, probably Kate
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I feel like a lot of you guys are about to be disappointed. Just remember, you can hope for whoever you want, but keep expectations in check.
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@PigMainBigBrain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1523561#Comment_1523561
Now thats somethin to look forward to! Honest opinion, yeah it was short, and yeah I'm salty it was short because the build up from the basement scene was so good.
Some advice for the next installments if you're gonna use After Effects, you may want to adjust your lightning effect so that it matches the style of the black and white camera you're using. Its pretty jarring (and not in a good way) to have everything black and white and then suddenly.....theres lightning and its blue.... <----WOT??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxncS9gVDYI
Theres some pretty decent free utilities out there that'll save you some production cost. Also if you wanna save some bucks I produce musics and I'm pretty sure others among the community do as well. You could always outsource some production to the community.....since it is a fan made film....may as well outsource to some community members that'll hook you up for free?
I personally produce everything from Orchestral, to trap, to EDM, glitch, ambient etc. Give it a shot, boop the communities snoot!
Damn, ur music is goooood. Really cinematic!
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@Gerneral_Buckness said:
I love the aesthetic of my prestige 3 characters, all bloody and bad ass.
But I was wondering, do people choose not to use the P3 skins to trick the killer into thinking they're not as experienced?
I play Bill
It's either P3 or a Christmas Sweater
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@PyramidHead said:
With Billy getting new music and there being plans to update the music of other killers, Which one do you want to see get some new chase/menu music next?
I'd like to see Pig get some new music that possibly could incorporate "Hello Zepp" into it.
I'm curious to see what the Nurse's would be
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The fact that Trapper is Mid to bottom tier on these lists is a sin.
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@Buttercake said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1521929#Comment_1521929
Did you like it when it was implied Nea was the killer??😊🌈
That reference was amazing lol
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@Buttercake said:
Ace was the best. David was miscast.
I wish I had realized it was gonna be so short. My family was making jokes I rickrolled them.
I enjoyed it but wish it had been longer. My family are never gonna let me rest and will rag about how I pumped it up...for a long time...
I feel like the David would have made an S + tier Jeff.
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@Maperson said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1521737#Comment_1521737
Okay bud, it's not hate, it's criticism, I don't care if they add him, but if they do it should be something good, something that sells the idea, you can answer tomorrow if you want discussion, good night
We need more people like you on the forums lmfao.
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@Deathslinger said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1520920#Comment_1520920
Wait till Thursday...
Don't do it... you madman...
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@Pryzm said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1521544#Comment_1521544
So have several people in this thread. As a whole, it is a very toxic community. We call DBD toxic, does that include everyone? No.
From my experience, the FNaF community isn't that toxic, but they can sure be... weird at times.
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@Pryzm said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1521084#Comment_1521084
AhAhAhh, the old attack when someone disagrees concept. Notice I did not insult the OP, even said I hope they get enjoyment from the IP. I referred to the community and the lack luster nature of the product.
But, you apparently can't deal with differing opinions without personal attacks. Good job there. LOL
Well, you didn't insult OP, but you did refer to FNaF's fanbase as entitled, misguided, toxic, crybaby children, and referred to Springtrap as a "joke character", so I'm guessing that's what provoked the attack.
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@SCP_FOR_DBD said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1521239#Comment_1521239
FNAF is 6 years old now? God I'm old.
Yup, it's been a wild ride.
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Similarly to the majority of the comments on this thread. I like the idea, but these threads need to die down a notch. I'm only commenting on this since the thread is already on the front page, and I wouldn't be bumping it too much higher.
If there's one lesson I've learned debating about this topic throughout the past several months, its that it's simply not worth your time to argue this on the forums. Out of the countless arguments I've made, I think I was able to convince... maybe one person...? This is why I, and many others, have simply stopped trying to argue about it on the forums. We already know that many people want FNaF, and we also already know many people don't, so let's let this topic die down for now, and revisit it whenever the next chapter is released.
I'm also pretty confident that the idea is about to have yet another resurgence, since VenomXenomorph is collaborating with some music artists to make a song about it, and Seminatic, along with a few others, are producing an animated chapter concept or something along those lines. I think it's safe to say that a FNaF chapter is, theoretically, possible. How likely it is depends on BHVRs priorities, and where they listen to find feedback.
Also, Happy Birthday, Five Nights at Freddy's. 6 full years ago... damn.
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Yo BHVR puh-LEASE do this. I would undoubtedly lose, but I'd love to give it a shot.
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@PissedWraithMain said:
I like Autohaven on either survivor or killer. Same goes for Crotus.
I'm ready to be crucified for my opinion: Saloon
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@JHondo said:
I'm curious as to what y'all's favorite underrated perks are and why?
For killer for me it's Hex: The Third Seal because of how much panic and pressure it causes before being cleansed.
For Survivor it's Pebble, I mean Diversion, because of the memes and because of how often it will actually confuse killers.
Aftercare is soooooo good, but no body realizes it
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I agree.
It's okay to be vocal and support something you like, but as you said, it's gotten out of hand. I don't mind people adding some new perspective to the conversation, but whenever a forum post is created regarding FNaF, its always "FNaF person creates an argument (of varying quality), people don't even bother to read it cause 'FNaF is cringe', FNaF fans defend their series, the other people fight back, etc".
It always ends in a painful stalemate where no body wins. If someone has something groundbreaking to add to the discussion, then its not as annoying, but I can't think of much that hasn't been talked about in some regard.
I heard (in a YT comment section, so take this with a grain of salt) that one of the devs said they would go crazy if they heard another suggestion for FNaF (McLean, I think). This should NEVER happen, there's a fine line between being supportive and being annoying, and I feel like its been crossed. I'll always like and defend the idea of a FNaF chapter, but it's important to know when we're running in circles, and doing more harm than good.
No side of the argument is 100% innocent or correct. People who like FNaF can sometimes overstate FNaF's accomplishments, or ignore its flaws. Some people who dislike the idea will just state "No" and "FNaF is cringe" without giving the games or the idea a fair chance. It's odd how some people will completely ######### on DbD whenever the devs screw up once, but when we're talking about FNaF, all of the sudden, DbD is this "Golden gem, bedazzled with diamonds, that oozes class and prestige, where only the absolute cream of the crop even stand a chance of getting into DbD". That's not saying everyone who supports these sides are like this, but it's a good enough chunk to make the discussion unfun for everyone.
We, as a community, fail to respect each others opinions, and disagree with someone politely, as well as fail to remove our personal bias when it is necessary to see something from a different perspective. This is why the same threads pop up all of the time on the forums regarding controversial perks, characters, concepts, etc, and is also probably a contributing factor as to why none of these issues get fixed. If you like the idea of a FNaF chapter, and want to see it in the game, then great! If not, no big deal.
However, I think it's time for this debate rest for now, and wait atleast a few months before bringing up the idea again. Let it serve as an example as for what NOT to do if we decide to revisit the idea down the line.
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I'm pretty tall, so probably either Trapper or Myers, but my dream picks would be Oni and Legion.
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Good god
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@bubbabrotha said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1514285#Comment_1514285
Did you see the finale?
I haven't; I need to check that out sometime.
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I'd prefer they stay away from IRL killers.
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@bubbabrotha said:
I know this is controversial, but springtrap. After watching some FNaF VHS tapes, ooh doggy.
Tbh, I'm surprised that this wasn't listed considering how much of a hot topic he's been. FNaF VHS Tapes give me chills; they're not inherently scary or anything, but very disturbing. Squimpus McGrimpus has done an amazing job with them, and so have the other various creators that made FNaF VHS tapes.
But yeah, Springtrap gets my vote as well.
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@NursesBootie said:
Someone tried to do kinky things with her.
Yes officer, this comment right here.
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@Raven014 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1511220#Comment_1511220
My problem with it is that the people who refuse to even consider it. Its an older franchise than dbd, and has a much larger audience than dbd.
And then demand that Candyman is perfect for the game. Or Pennywise. Or Pinhead. As if there is some quality besides being in a movie that makes them better. But I wouldn't say they shouldn't be allowed. I would question why, but not denounce it so zealously.
Yea I get where your coming from. I'd say that DbD has a slightly larger dedicated audience than FNaF does, but FNaF's reach into the casual market is almost unmatched. Hence why I think it would be a good investment for BHVR.
I really hate seeing games like DbD and Smash Bros have the same 6ish wanted characters thrown around, and then anyone else with an unpopular opinion gets hated on (idk if Springtrap counts as one of these characters for DbD). I've never been a huge movie fanatic, so any time a movie character gets in, 90% of the time it gets a "ehh ok" from me.
When Pyramid Head was added, I was ecstatic just to have video game characters back on the table. Heck, Bill was the character that got me to download DbD. I don't really think there's any potential character that I'd say flatout "No" to. Sure, I have my preferences, and so does everyone else.
But most importantly, I'm willing to listen to what other people have to say. And anyone who's just commenting "No" or "cringe" or anything similar to that, does not seem to be willing to listen.
Someone made a thread about Sonic.exe potentially being a good DbD character, and even though I didn't want it personally (despite actually liking the creepypasta), we were able to have a civil discussion about it and call it there. That's 100% of the reason why these threads spiral out of control; It's because a good chunk of the people are blind to the opposition's arguments. In fact, this is why the DS, NoED, SWF, Spirit threads keep resurfacing. No body agrees on anything, and nothing comes of it; an endless cycle of blind arguments and "whataboutism".
That being said, there are plenty of people who gave the games a fair chance, and admit they're not fans of it, and that's okay. I really hope BHVR can see FNaF in the same way we do, since only when the bias is removed can you see the strong potential for an amazing licensed chapter.
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@Raven014 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1510366#Comment_1510366
My first question for people like that is: have you actually played the game? If people say no, then I wont say their opinion doesn't count, but I would at least encourage them to take a read up of the Springtrap wiki. If I have to do that with Candyman, they have to do it with Springtrap.
Reading the wiki page should be enough, as long as they have a decent, unbiased understanding of the character they're talking about.
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"Oh look! A well written arguement about a FNaF chapter! Let me see what I have here... uhhhhh 'FNaF is cringe' uhhhhhh "It's for 12-year olds" uhhhh.... 'No.' Argument gone k tnx bye"
In all seriousness, I can understand why some people may not want it, but oh my god, please make sure that you're giving the games a fair chance.
FNaF has a sh*t ton of memes about it, but so does DbD. FNaF has people that cosplay the characters, but so does DbD. FNaF has its fair share of children, but so does DbD. FNaF has a lot of art portraying the characters in a more cute than scary manner, but so does DbD.
I honestly don't get it sometimes. If you dont like FNaF, that's fine, and I'm not here to say you have to, but it's really easy to tell who's giving the series a fair chance, and who isn't. I hope we see Springtrap some day, and if we do, and you don't personally want it, atleast be happy for the many of us that do want it.
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@TruffleTurtle said:
What I mean by this is I feel its unfair that his traps can become invisible and be clipped underneath through floor boards like you have no idea that they were there. Like how am I suppose to know they are there? Check every possible tile that a trap can possibly be at. And before anybody says anything, no this is not a "nerf trapper he too OP". More like a "this just happened to me so Im going to the forums to complain because I have nothing else better to do with my life"
I wouldn't be against darkening the traps, but I feel like full invis would be very frustrating to go against.
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@PigMainBigBrain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1503492#Comment_1503492
Bottom tiers are based on initial recognition, global appeal+community appeal or community negativity. (plus a little bit of google analytics) FNAF would be higher on the tier list, like A, but theres an equally loud section of the community that doesn't like FNAF
Yea that makes sense
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@PigMainBigBrain said:
The most Anticipated Licensed chapters in DBD.
S: Sam and Dean Survivors, Pinhead from Hellraiser, Pennywise, Xenomorphs, Chucky, The Grudge.
A: Survivor Skins Scooby Doo Gang, The Ring, Candyman, Leviathan via Supernatural, Mr X., Nemesis, The Nun,
B: Gremlins(if they could work out how to make a small killer or small group of killers work), I know what you did Last Summer, Mary Shaw Dead Silence, Mama, Pumpkin Head, Wendigo Until Dawn, The Man with Fire in his Face (Insidious), SlenderMan
C: Critters (Again an engineering feat),The Blob, The Fly, The Thing, The Leprechaun, Five Nights at Freddys
D: Nightbreed (incredibly niche), Maniac Cop, CHUD (some foreign movie?), John Trent Survivor, Killer Clowns from Outer Space
What did I miss that isn't tangled in Legal battles or a child molestation case? Will be updating list to include EVERYTHING ANTICIPATED BY THE COMMUNITY!
Just curious, are the bottom tiers not-wants, or just indifferent-tos?
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@joshuashep22 said:
I remember a lot of people were against candyman and viewed him as bland, he is pretty cool in my opinion and he could be the first killer to speak in English when stunned or during his mori.
I would be happy for the people who wanted him in, but I wouldn't want it myself.
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Something for bill... please...
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Ahhh, Slappy my boy.....
As much as I love goosebumps, I don't really think an entire chapter should be dedicated to it. Goosebumps isn't what I'd call "scary", but it is definitely an iconic piece of horror literature (and I guess it's also a movie now). Also... he's a little short; I don't really know how they'd make that work.
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I think a huge part of the reason they don't do a Health chapter is because it isn't guaranteed to work. They could fix some old bugs, and in doing so, introduce dozens of new bugs, and then they're right back where they started.
And on top of that, as SpaceCoconut mentioned, there's no money to be made, so it's not really in BHVRs best interest to do a health chapter.
Nevertheless, I hope these bugs get fixed some day.
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I feel like they should credit the person they take an idea from. It doesn't have to be huge; perhaps just mentioning "this perk/killer/power was suggested by XYZ on the DbD forums" in a dev stream or something.
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I love FNaF, but I'm pretty certain that it won't be coming this chapter.
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@V1V3 said:
I thought it would be cool if there was a color palette to customize colors of outfits for any character.
Man, I just want pallet swaps for Bill
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Legion and Deathslinger would be cool.
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@SnackPac said:
I think The Shape would be a great movie killer
Nah it would fall flat, guaranteed.
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My picks are:
- Springtrap from Five Nights at Freddy's
- Clementine from Telltale's TWD
- Jason from Friday the 13th
That's not saying I wouldn't like the addition of anything that's not on this list; these are just my personal wants.
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I haven't played the game since this patch released, and I heard all of the complaints about the auras and stuff. However, only now do I see how bad they dropped the ball. Hopefully, they'll address this in their upcoming Q and A
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@Carpemortum said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1486035#Comment_1486035
As long as we have those for noed threads, ds threads, swf threads, mori threads, key threads, "######### the devs" threads, and EGC unfair threads too.
As a person who wants Springtrap in DbD, I'd take this trade any day
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@Pawcelot said:
Unique, hand-crafted maps would be so much better than the RNG mess that we're getting today.
I'd say in terms of balance, you're right, but I feel like the gameplay would get a lot staler a lot quicker if this were the case. Sure, balance is important, but I'd rather keep some map RNG just to keep things interesting. If there was ever a "ranked" dbd mode, then I think this would be a good idea for it.
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@Salty_Pearl said:
I like his chase theme, but I feel like Trapper, Wraith, and Hillbilly should have the default chase themes because they are the original killers.
This ^
Also I just think the theme doesn't really fit billy in general. Don't fix stuff if it aint broke.
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I wouldn't want a Xenomorph personally, but I know it would make a lot of people happy. So I say, why not?
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Agreed, there are certain parts of these skins which I honestly have no clue why they're linked. Especially weapons, since those should theoretically work with all skins.
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Lightborn is gonna be a really fun perk to use; I like it personally.