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i would suggest Pig and Ghost Face because the others you can get with shards.
i find both really fun and the Perks I’m all Ears and Surveillance helped me very much while going for adept and I still use them
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Legacy cosmetics ARE their own characters though.. or is Lisa Garland just Cheryl in a costume?
problem would be in this case, that the Alpha chars probably don’t have their own names, and were indeed just Claudette and Meg.. maybe that can be explained with the multiverse lore.. or give them other names, or maybe there were different names in that Alpha stage..
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They stated in the last Q&A they don’t want more emotes and it was an explicit decision to let survivors not communicate too much, I guess this includes quick messages. Of course the whole SWF thing kinda destroys it but I also really like using emotes and buttdances to try to communicate a little bit with other randoms!
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i really thought this topic was about anything else but not something like this XD
i did read somewhere that killer map offerings have priority, but I guess that was just a rumor right?
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I use every map offering without any mean or biased intend. Actually I like the aesthetics and the variety of the maps...
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Well they did trigger you in a sense.. or why do you feel the need to make a thread about this?
also it’s not really a Russian, nor a survivor thing..
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Yeah waiting on news on it as well. But they can’t talk about it which means they are most likely still in contact with the license holders and this prevents them from making any statements.
they also need to get Nightmare on Elm Street chapter on Switch and Mobile (?) so I hope they make all those negotiations at once!
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I sometimes try to give a kill (only rare occasions where 4 would escape and the killer was really low ranked) -mostly the killers will decline though and bring me to a gate/the hatch. Which is pretty much the only way I get to see a killer giving the hatch to the last survivor other than myself as killer since EGC was introduced!
Once I gave a clown a kill - I was already at the gate at the edge to get out but got back in to the clown. He downed me and killed me. And then called me a #########. Since then I didn’t have the opportunity but I will think twice if the killer „earned“ it.
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It’s almost like not all survivors are the same and there are some that actually want ez games and „bullly“ the killer and then there might also be some that want challenging games and they don’t care about escaping every match...
and those „crying“ about something like OP killers or mechanics might be those that actually struggle against those and not everybody can perfectly loop every killer nor are they able to just „git gud“, because people do have different skill levels..
no no no. Sorry. Just crazy thoughts, you gotta trust the comments here. All survivors bad. Survivor gameplay so ez, even a literal potato would win as survivor. Every survivor should be a god looper or their opinion should never be heard!
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No, you can’t say that here.
survivor only want ez escapes. So, fixed that for you.
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Someone here mentioned Alice: Madness Returns, which sounds pretty cool.
i also would like to see a Dont Starve Together chapter (artstyle couldn’t be translated directly obviously). I even made a killer concept in Share Your Work here.
Also I would like to see Alien: Isolation/ Amanda Ripley. Make it both a movie and video game license and bring both Ripleys!
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@LordGlint said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1315616#Comment_1315616
If you go back....he never said the word buff at all
That’s true! I am sorry for interpreting it that way, maybe he meant to nerf Clown :)
but he did mention that Moris need rework too, I gotta give him that.
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@Maperson said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1315607#Comment_1315607
Nurse got nerfed hard, Hillbilly Is hard map dependent plus he Is also easy to loop, Spirit Is M1 killer, when she use her ability u need to walk to not leave scretch can't tell you how many times that helped me, Freddy has teleport but he is M1, also very easy to loop, when he usses snares u go on another loop, if u wake yourself up snares don't work. U want all killers to be Clown level?
No. I never said that. You are trying to put words in my mouth.
i try to see both sides. You only mentioned survivor nerf! Killer buff!
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@Maperson said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1315550#Comment_1315550
The killers that need rework are Leatherface, Clown and Legion. Freddy Is balanced and good survivors can loop him easy
Inward talking about killer mechanics, not killers
but I am surprised that you only list killers that are considered weak, but strong killers are obviously balanced
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@OldHunterLight said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1315435#Comment_1315435
No plunders just luck, and while I probably didn't deserved to kill all I needed to because of my last adept.
I don't defend camping, I believe the only reason to camp is if all gens are done and you have nowhere to go, tunneling on the other hand I try not to unless OoO.
Both keys and moris should be reworked a little, both are unfair, keys have an underrated addon that let's you see the killer, so mindgaming is out of the question (if used only) moris aren't fun at least for me, I only use moris when "by your hand kill a survivor with X killer" and even then I usually do it on death hook or again OoO.
Both are unhealthy to the game imo
A small rework is reasonable and I fully agree with that adept achievement, keys shouldn’t prevent them every time.
but only because you don’t use the unfair killer mechanics doesn’t mean they are more okay than keys. There are plenty of survivors not using keys, you will always run into some that do. Which is totally okay and valid.
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@Maperson said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1315494#Comment_1315494
Almost every single game at high ranks Is gen rush, killers hunt the easiest pray, why should he let u leave a later Make problems? If we sre talking about Tunneling and camping then we have to mention swf, gen rush, survivor meta perks, almost every game same perks, Is it fair for survivors to have so much second chance's? Is it fair to punish the killer for good play?
But that was my whole point. There is plenty of unfair mechanics ON BOTH SIDES.
you just talk about every unfair survivor mechanic but you are saying it is totally okay to Tunnel me and that is not unfair??
key are unfair. But that is okay, since many things are unfair. That was my point, I did not say every unfair mechanic needs reworking. But if you want to rework unfair survivor mechanics you have to look at the other side too.
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@Maperson said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1315435#Comment_1315435
And u always gen rush, maybe thats why killers need to tunnel? Its much easier to go against 3 than 4. Also swf are fair? We can go on and on about it. Mori and Keys need nerf, no need to talk about camping or tunneling
i don’t always genrush though? And I am not the best looper. Guess what happens in almost all games: I get to be the one tunneled to death first. But I guess that is somehow fair?
the game is asymmetrical und thus unfair in nature. Not all things need to get changed because they feel unfair. There is no need for tunneling and camping here? Okay but why Moris then? They are not the equivalent of keys for killer either. But they all are/can be unfair.
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cross Progression is not even confirmed between Pc and consoles yet. They said they are talking with their partners about it
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@OldHunterLight said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1315394#Comment_1315394
This is just my opinion, but you can't find moris on chests, you can find keys.
Had a game yesterday, killed 1 survivor, rest 3 gen themselves, had no progress on any gen, all of the rest of the survivors were on death hook, but they found a key and all 3 escaped.
That is fair? Not at all.
I get that there are things to "counter" keys like franklin's but no one is going to waste a perk slot for that especially when most killers need slowdown perks or tracking perks.
I didn’t make a direct comparison between Moris and keys.
take Camping and tunneling: no need of an addon or offering and every killer can do that every match. And this is way more unfair than a key. But it is still considered a valid strategy by devs and thus get defended.
not everything needs to be fair. You had a good match, many hooks and a kill. 3 genning doesn’t mean you should get all kills. Chests don’t always contain keys. They were lucky (and had probably plunderers or were extremely lucky).
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Key don’t have to be fair though? You have plenty of stuff at your hand as killer that’s unfair but it will get defended.
i don’t see keys that often to be honest. Not as much as moris at the least. And if there is a key, it will not always be used, Morris on the other hand will always get used (not that for the last survivor). But there is more: is face camping bubba fair? Is tunneling fair? Etc. No! But killer mains will defend it with „the devs said its valid strategy“ - so are keys and Moris.
and keys are the least unfair in these examples.
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You actually don’t have to play killer if you don’t want to. Same goes with survivor or the entire game. If you don’t have fun playing it then don’t. Or you just need to pause for a few days/weeks.
i had that feeling when I tried to go for killer adepts. But the same feeling when I tried survivor adepts or dailys to open gate/escape and i get tunneled/bad teammates. When playing for fun/trying to get better at a killer power etc I don’t feel really that stressed at all.
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@TheCrimsonCrusader said:
So many responses, it's hard to thank you all but I really appreciate all the help.
So I have 3 of my perks set pretty well set right now but I just need to pick between Inner strength and Bond, both seem pretty solid but I only have one issue with both:
Inner strength: it needs a totem to start the process which isn't such a big deal but it would mean I'm moving around the map to heal which may screw me over
Bond: requires help from another player which has 2 drawbacks, I have to hope my teammate can do skill checks which in low ranks isn't always the case and I'd be slowing progress on generators if I split with the friend I helped
Are these really issues or am i just overthinking?
Those could be issues but they are not that fatal. Best is to try the perks and play the game. Don’t be too afraid to do something wrong, it is just a game after all and testing out new perks is something I enjoy even after many many hours of playing.
for your Inner Strength issue: the killer is most likely checking gens or chasing someone so you should be fine. Of course there is the risk of not finding a totem or all totems gone, so maybe relying on teammates would be better. I just think that Kindred is enough for that and Bond would be a little redundant.
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didnt the Devs say in the last Q&A that they are aware that daily’s are kinda killer-sided and actually working on something to replace them/rework them?
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You can look in the „share your work“ section of this forum, there are many killer concept ideas for a Xenomorph.
Agile running, stealth, pounce similar to Demogorgon, eggs/facehuggers similar to pigs bear traps and some kind of acid attack (either activ like Plague or passive when stunned) are common ideas
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Kick 5 different gens in one trial.
A dev answered this in another thread I think.
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@TheCrimsonCrusader said:
So right now I'm thinking;
Kindred: allows me good Intel for unhooking
Borrowed time: if the running away goes badly
Self care: recovery from the chase
We'll make it: allows speedy recovery for my team mate
Critique?
As @Doddle28 said: switch Self Care for Inner Stength and you have a solid build. I use that pretty often actually.
Self Care can be good in some situation though. But in most cases it’s better to heal with teammates.
also test every Perk a little on your own and see if it fits your style. Fixated from Nancy is a nice beginner-Perk to see what scratch marks the killer sees from you for example! Use the Self Care or Borrowed Time slot for that.
also try to unhook after the killer has gone away if possible, BT lets some people think they should always unhook immediately after hooking...
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Kick 5 different gens in 1 trial
a dev answered this in another thread
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I see only a problem with gender and that depends on the voice.. will legendary skin get their own voices or will there be one generic male and one generic female voice or will they always use the voice of the original survivor?
race isn’t a matter at all.
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There was a timeframe a few month ago where the rank achievements got unlocked randomly I think. But the devs were aware of that and I don’t think those will be bannable since it is easily traceable.
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@Poweas said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1313059#Comment_1313059
You can do a bit against them, Huntress is loopable at long wall tiles, and the Billy, well there's always Shack...?
Yeah sure. But I am what many people here would call a „potato survivor“ and „git gud“ is simply not possible for everyone including me. Doesn’t mean I can’t loop at all but getting matched against „god tier“ killers is just matchmaking gone wrong.
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I find those actually rather boring than scary. I am no match for them and I know there is nothing I can do, so nothing intense about that. Better than hardcore tunnelers and campers still!
Luckily I don’t encounter those that often.
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I got all of them and enjoy GF and pig the most, GF a little bit more. Myers is alright as well and PH seems to be pretty strong, but time and PTB adjustments may change that, so I wouldn’t count on it.
it would be good to know your general playstyle and rank. Leatherface may not be a good Killer, but if you actually enjoy facecamping, guaranteeing a 2K every game with that and collect salt then he is the perfect choice ;)
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Well, maybe try to dodge a lobby if you get a survivor two times in a row. Because if you only Mori one person in 2 matches it could be seen from his perspective as trolling him specifically and not the character.
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the first 3 games on PTB I was literally always tunneled directly off the hook by the killer. But it’s cooler here to only call out survivors for something like this I guess.
to answer: some people like to play on the PTB in their normal playstyle which is probably needed for testing/statistics etc. if you only want to look at the map/killer power you can always play KYF.
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It would be Quentin if it wasn’t for that face... I am still hoping for a rework though!
from the original 4 it is Claudette, because of her character and style, sadly she is considered to be toxic and/or „Blendette“ etc. You know it.
I do play and level every survivor though, no one I really hate!
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Well, at least there is no one as salty to make a post about how disappointed he is that it turned out to be Silent Hill instead of Candyman. (But here we are in a thread that could be interpreted as the exact opposite to that...)
I agree, Candyman was not fitting for an anniversary announcement, and Silent Hill is a superb choice, still think he will join the roster later though.
Plus I would have never thought that the „the 4 is shaped like Pyramidhead‘s head“ was a valid clue XD
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Some people may not do this because of BM or try to be toxic but to get some last chase points, or distract the killer from other survivors that may be still in the trial.
i also do it sometimes to give the killer a last hit, for example that hillbilly that clearly only played for the daily and I gave him one last chainsaw down that way.
as a killer I sometimes get a little mad when I try a daily and only need one last hit and they leave...
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thinking about it, Barb for Nancy would be epic. You could play a match with Barb and Nancy and Steve in it and be all in-character:
When Barb is hooked and struggling, Nancy can buttdance together with Steve at the exit gates and then just leave and cry in end game chat about Barbs death.
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Ripley.
Specifically Amanda Ripley from Alien: Isolation. but with legendary skins it’s more likely to get Ellen as survivor and Amanda as skin. Which would be even better!
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Pyramidhead will never be in because of Konami.
or we could just not assume killers that we don’t like/want will never be in?
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@coppersly said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1307054#Comment_1307054
No no, instead if you crouch more than 5 times total in the exit area you are instantly killed.
Why limit it to exit gates though?
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@FilthyQuentin said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1307145#Comment_1307145
Like are the legendery skins/characters a part of lore?
Have we confirmation that licensed characters are part of the lore though?
since they don’t come with their own perks or background stories etc I would say they (legendary skins) are not..
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Is there another possible SH killer that could work as a Pyramidhead legendary skin?? I don’t know anything about SH but that would be really cool!
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@xEa said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1306510#Comment_1306510
Yea i get that but can we just for once appreciate what the devs are about to deliver? Thats a big thing for the game, way bigger then Jason or Pennywise ever could be. We just entered a completly different gaming universe as a whole chapter.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1306528#Comment_1306528
You have the "right" to do so, and i have the "right" to tell you to calm down and appreciate what is coming next. No point in that "i have the right" thing...
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1306497#Comment_1306497
Have you seen the 2009 Friday movie? Compare this Jason with the Trapper. He is clearly and distinctive ment to be Jason. They never thought they will get the license so they installed the trapper 100%.
Many do appreciate it though.
the thing is, why should anyone listen to you on this one when you pretty much admit that you would be the one complaining if it was Jason/Pennywise. Why shouldn’t we appreciate what the devs deliver if it’s something you don’t like but now everyone has to?
to the whole Trapper=Jason. No. Enough. Trapper was inspired by Jason, but that does not mean we shouldn’t get Jason. See Hillbilly/Leatherface. This should have been the end of this discussion a long time ago.
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hmm this is tricky. I assume for character Progression you would need to choose your account, since merging wouldn’t make sense at all.
for cosmetic purchases on the other hand, merging would be the only somewhat rightful choice since you paid for those. Question is what happens if you purchased the same cosmetic twice?
then there are DLCs: make them still platform dependent? Same can be done for cosmetics I guess. But it wouldn’t feel like real crossprogression..
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Yeah hopefully when that timer ends, every survivor not on hook or in a chase will instantly get scarified like in EGC. Maybe then this game will finally be balanced!
(sorry I had to..)
seriously though: there is not much we can base our speculation on. I just hope this one will also take killer-sided early games into account. EGC was pretty much only survivor-nerf (partly really needed), but yeah. Early game snowball should also be looked into. Even if only potato survivors are affected, they are the biggest part of the player base and if they are such potatoes, surely the killer will win anyways.
we can be sure that early genrush will be the main point of this though! (Which is totally fine)
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Let’s just all be happy that only those pesky survivors are complaining about OP killer. Imagine if in addition to that, killers would also complain about OP survivor perks.
oh. Wait..
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While it is an easily spotted spot it’s also easily spotted by the killer from far away and many killers can protect it this way! You don’t have to cross half the map to see if a survivor is nearby or on it, and can even check mid-chase of another survivor.
if I happen to spawn near this totem as survivor I sure as hell will not destroy it immediately because it is very risky, I will wait until I know the killer is busy.
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I think people complaining about the wishes of other people at the same level as people complaining about the Silent Hill chapter.
Jason and Pennywise are both stated to be welcomed by the devs. And both are valid options to wish for especially on the anniversary! Don’t get me wrong, I am happy we got Silent Hill, but imagine we would have gotten Jason. You would be the one complaining then...
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I really want to know how much they cost though. If you are not interested in Cheryl but wanna play as Lisa you still gotta purchase former.. which depending on the Lisa price may stop some people from purchasing them altogether.
also I wanna know if legendary skins come with their own audio/voice lines.