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Welcome to dbd, I see you're new since for you anything is op, like saying clown is an op killer etcharley_gibson said:Call me crazy but I think it's a little bit ridiculous that the doctor can put you into tier 3 madness without even shocking you and once you're in it you can't drop pallets as fast, you can't use a flashlight or heal yourself or anyone else, you literally can't do anything and when you get hooked it still doesn't snap you out of it. And when you start to snap out of it he can actually see you with nurses calling? Why is that a thing?
Look, I'm not complaining because of any specific match or anything. It just seems silly that tier 3 does that much to you. More so that it causes issues dropping pallets some times when it tries to snap out of it rather than drop the pallet similar to self care/pallet drop issues. I don't know, maybe he needs that overpowered aspect because he's otherwise weak. Just looking for thoughts and discussion here.
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I get the point but still not even close to the advantage of knowing perks compared to requeue issuepowerbats said:@Malakir said:
Vietfox said:Killers shouldnt be able to see survivors profile/names.
Lol wat
Yeah its the same thing provide other people know your entire build and the killer not be able to see profile/names of survivors. Totally the same thing
(?)Most people would like to see killer perks hidden post game, killers shouldn't be able to see survivors names so they don't dodge to cherry pick their lobby.
Hey let em check that profile, well they've got all the achievements so better dodge, I don't like them because they've got x achievement done so dodge etc.
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I'm sorry you just play 50% of the gameVietfox said:
I'm sorry you don't know how to play with the clown.Malakir said:
Yeah and today in a beautiful green sky when I played DbD I wrecked people by flying with the clown putting jack in the boxes everywhere scaring the living ######### out of peopleVietfox said:
Wrong, clown is op in the right hands, as it should be.Iceman said:What do you platform do you play on because I would like to play against you right now. Anyone who plays clown gets an average of 1-2 kills per match.
The clown is not op. It is so easy to dodge his bottles. He can still get looped. -
It must be. Come on, somebody can't be THAT stupid, let's not fall for itWolf74 said:Plz tell me this is bait.
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The other way around. Some people might start to hard camp for protest about these dumb changesStar99er said:Borrowed Time is getting a nice buff so hopefully that’ll help against campers/tunnelers.
If instead of incentive hunting you punish people for face camp what are you gonna get? More face camps
And what do you get when you take out the hunting incentives nerfing them and giving even more counters? You guessed it! Even more camp -
Yeah and today in a beautiful green sky when I played DbD I wrecked people by flying with the clown putting jack in the boxes everywhere scaring the living ######### out of peopleVietfox said:
Wrong, clown is op in the right hands, as it should be.Iceman said:What do you platform do you play on because I would like to play against you right now. Anyone who plays clown gets an average of 1-2 kills per match.
The clown is not op. It is so easy to dodge his bottles. He can still get looped.
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Lol watVietfox said:Killers shouldnt be able to see survivors profile/names.
Yeah its the same thing provide other people know your entire build and the killer not be able to see profile/names of survivors. Totally the same thing
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Some nerfs are dumb that's true, like the vault changes, I really didn't liked IG4rr3tt said:Again, it's broken and unbalanced when facing swf.. it always comes to swf, i always played and will play alone, and will have to eat all the garbage nerfs because of swf toxicity, great BALANCE IDEAS
Anyway you keep saying a free escape I balanced and advocate for that even when the devs themselves felt bad after seeing how abusable that perk is
The stupid nerfs isn't an excuse to advocate for something like that. Imagine if was the other way around, I have to do a skillcheck like DS and from a distance you get downed instantly, even if full health, skipping one health state like DS give you one more. Would it call fair cuz there is 4 survivors who can help you out and just on killer? -
OK you can't use googlestrikingearth26 said:@Malakir said:
strikingearth26 said:I watch a streamer who made a character out of one of the survivors, one being "pallet peggy" aim of the game is to drop every pallet on the map, some maps have less than 10 pallets, others have around 14-15. never more than 15 though. just an FYI.
Wrong. The minimum is 15 per map, it took 30s on google to look it up
With a google search, I can only find killer mains speculating on how many pallets per map and most of those were back in 2017, there has been pallet and window vault purges since then... perhaps we should ask a dev for an accurate answer.
- In The Game map, set the minimum number of pallets to 15.
There you can check that even the smallest map of the game have it. There is a line where its said there is a minimum and maximum of pallets in every map. In a dev stream was been said its 15 at minimum and 20ish maximum depending on the map
So who's speculating now?
Purges of pallets? So remove ONE I say it again ONE pallet in few maps for you its pallet purge. Okay dude, get informed -
OK you like ignoring posts. As I said look it up on google, it took 30s for me to see that EVERY MAP have a MINIMUM of 15 pallets spread outstrikingearth26 said:you're the one claiming there are 20 + pallets every map, why not go and count them yourself in your next game, there is no where near 20 on any map. some maps do have more than others, but there are some maps with only 6-7 pallets on whole map!
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Wrong. The minimum is 15 per map, it took 30s on google to look it upstrikingearth26 said:I watch a streamer who made a character out of one of the survivors, one being "pallet peggy" aim of the game is to drop every pallet on the map, some maps have less than 10 pallets, others have around 14-15. never more than 15 though. just an FYI.
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Feng and Spirit
I know, I can't resist to the asian charm
Plus they look pretty cool. Storywise spirit I awesome i love it and Feng sounds independent and someone who doesn't give a duck about what people think. Then idk, i feel like she's pretty bitchy, I like that since I played survivor like that, super egoistic, duck them if it means I survived
Feng best DbD survivor -
Dudes. Depends on what you mean when you say camping. I've lost track of hate mails calling me camper noob and other harsher things when in reality I didn't. Got one on the book, look it up the map and hear out if a gen is being worked and all that stuff, sometimes tho they are super altruistic and by the time I go look it up a gen they get saved
Of course I go back, 2 people of the gens its precious, especially when I spot someone around the hook right after I've done it, I won't leave, I'm gonna chase down the guy and look behind while doing so and they go for saves. This situation is perfect, 3 people of the gens.
Sometimes happens and of course you get punished for unhooking in front of me but the entitlement is stronk in this game so if you insta unhook shouldn't be punished for. Who take the blame? The killer of course.
When I play survivor my most hated enemies are my mates not the killer, those one who instead unhook or do risky ones making me get harmed the problems is people thinks its the killer fault just because in-game its against you. I know some people don't use the brain but sometimes what you might think is camping it's just a guy who hear a person close the hook or saw him/her, an happens a lot
I'm not accusing anyone since I haven't seen your games but as far as I can tell playing both, are the survivors who ######### up survivors. The one who DC just because got caught by a trap, happened just yesterday and he was happy about it, unsafe unhook which lead me to be harmed etc etc one of the reasons I played egoistic as survivor. They are their own Demise most of the time
as ling as I player I met 4 people face camping me. Only 4, so I don't know why its such a big dealnfor all these people, I see many more giving me the hatch that I've lost count. maybe, just maybe, most of these threads are made by people who think camping is been saved when the killer is 15mt away and being chased again, obviously.
Some people are sooo cocky, I see those one on my team make fun of the killer the whole game and even I won't save them, I can imagine how the killer won't either an lick the hook they are on.
To summarize, be less entitled and get better avoiding to be caught in the first place. If the killer hooked, do gens, if he won't move here loses anyway -
Another guy comparing noed with DS. Noed can be prevented before it even activate DS is a Press a Button to escape, which is differenttt_ivi_99 said:
If you wanna nerf Decisive then nerf NOED as wellThe_Crusader said:Since I get the feeling a number of you don't play the game in your own time, here are the last 3 of my games...
1) Down survivor. Walk to basement nearby. They hit 35% and surprise Decisive strike me. I now have another chase which lets a gen get done and I'm robbed of early momentum.
2) Down survivor at end while other is dying on hook. Pick up survivor, decisive strike, free escape into hatch.
3) Down survivor in exit gates, pick up, decisive strike and yet another free victory.
Lets be completely honest with each other. Its little more than a free victory. In the above 2 situations there's literally nothing you can do to win. They either crawl to the exit or they strike you and walk out. Is that really what you want? You want the survivors to have a free win?
It's beyond broken. It's a laughing stock, and still we have nothing.
The other ideas weren't perfect but they sure as hell sounded better than what we have now.The_Crusader said:
Yeah that's not true is it pal.Oooooof said:One more of these killers that complains about DS. Its only stressfull if all survivors have the perk and when is you gonna se that? Never anymore.
Every 4/5 games has Decisive Strike in it for me - and thats a low estimation. Often times it will be at least 2 DS users in a game, sometimes 3.
I'd love to download this version of DBD that survivor mains are playing where nobody uses Decisive Strike.
One guarantees a scape, the other one guarantees a kill.
If you don't find a difference between an hex and especially noed that leave the killer with 3 perk until late game and being even prevented and leave him with 3 perks for actually the whole game, then I can't help you. Some people needs to think sometimes and other times they can't
I stopped using any hex ages ago, its a gamble I won't take, its pointless even run ruin for how fast get destroyed. I used it when practicing nurse on console, 8/10 times didn't even procd because they cleaned everything so yeah, totally comparable -
True, after all its a competitive 4v4 game right?SpitfireOrMichina said:Now it's a We're Gonna Live Forever for killer too. Thanks devs for this balance. For real, why does survivors have to struggle to get the tokens with We're Gonna Live Forever but killers only have to hook people ones, and + have an aura reading ability
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You're cute. I hope this is an alternative account, this thread would be used against you whenever you will talk about camping tunnelling killer buffs etc etc, would be fun!TheBean said:Now that BBQ and Chili isn't as OP anymore... It might show up in the shrine now.
Wouldn't it be funny if the first shrine after the new killer is released, BBQ and Chili shows up in the shrine....
HAHAHA
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GG killers who only used BBQ for the BP bonus it offered... Cause we all know you didn't need it for the aura reading.
discuss....
Seriously now, do you just play 50% of the game? You sound a little bit salty about a change to a killer perk that incentives stay away from hooks. I guess you won't ever cry about camping or tunnel again since you're so happy that one of those perks that endorse hunting is being nerfed as well as many others like bitter murmur
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then.. What's the point of your thread?Gamzello said:
I’m not blaming the killer it’s just funny that someone tried so hard to kill everyone even when throwing the game. This ain’t it.ChesterTheMolester said:How is the Killer at fault for doing his job when the survivors throw the game?
He got his kills, it’s over with. 👌
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Ikr.. At this point should implement a co op vs ai modeSwiftblade131 said:Killer plays = try hard
Killer doesn't play = Git Gud/Toxic
Can't win. 4k or not. Something is always wrong apparently.
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Lol wait are you a developer? Do you work for Sony or Microsoft? I bet notborna_lk said:My god, could the half of you kissing the devs asses take a break for half a minute. Stop buying all the bullshit they serve you, Sony and Microsoft approval process is not as complicated as you think. All it is essientially is two questions: do you have rights to sell the content your selling (I.e license)? 2.) do you want to pay us royalties with visa or cheque? That’s it, and stop telling everyone to buy a pc because I’m more than happy with watching YouTube on my phone thanks.
I know you might be attached to your precious console but as a console user I can tell you they are most of the time the root of problems
BTW the last chapter came out at the same time in all platforms so what are you trying to say? You want to have ptb on console? For what reason? PC feedback is fine since for other platforms its a porting of the game and have a ptb there is useless. You won't give feedback for how you act, just play it earlier
I can't either but I'm fine with it so why so entitled? -
Its not for you. The Animation isn't even that good like, opening the body while the guts just spread out. Its pretty arcade, some splash of blood and that's itBACKSTABBER said:@Malakir said:
BACKSTABBER said:@Malakir said:
BACKSTABBER said:
@George_Soros said: First off, it's a strange notion coming from someone called @BACKSTABBER ...
Second, it's not really gory. That belly slit open, those innards turned out are not actually shown. It looks more like a murder in a theater than a murder in a gory slasher movie.
I'm fine with it personally, as I hate pointless gore (horror lies in suspense and creepiness rather than buckets of blood, that's why Nurse and Doctor moris are the best). And for a video game, nice animations are also a welcome. I think in this sense, Legion's mori is decent. the slide on the guts is excessively disgusting, the other moris are more cartoonish and less explicit, DBD went too far with that mori ending Mathieu Côté is DAPGJSF for the Illuminati agenda, programming kids to accept total carnage as wonderful I hope at least he is making good money or fame Lol okay you are a troll
I posted why these things exists and I think I did pretty job so far [
] explaining it and how this game isn't suited for underage or sensitive people so..Try civilization, it might fit better if you just wanna ignore those facts
nope I wont try any of the games suggested, I like this hide-and-seek game
my only complaint is about the sliding at the end, is tremendously disgusting #wenttoofar
Read my previous post. I spent way too much time explaining it and I won't repeat myself so read it up
yup I read it and im way older than 18, still think that guts sliding is unnecessary in the morti
do it a single stab to the heart non sliding, and is ok
Its an horror game and still not even near as gorish as PS1/PS2 horror gore games I've witnessed. Guts stab and still you can't see that. If that I took much for you, as said, you're too sensitive for this game and isn't for you -
Exactly, that's the point. Why add more counties when 3 out of 6 are without perks?The_Daydreamer said:@Malakir said:
Doesn't exist only BBQ as aura reading btwThats true but what are using most killer? Right, BBQ or Nurses. You gonna feel no change. And dont forget that you can counter BBQ with standing behind a gen.
Its just feeling like an overkill that's it. Why have after the patch 6+ counters to one killer perk and no survivor perk is counterable like that? Thats the point. I already played assuming the killer have bbq even when he doesn't, I don't feel the need to have even more of it tbh
I would've preferred another perk like the autosabo unhook perk (I'm bad at names) instead of another counter for aura reading that are already counterable without perks
It feels cheap and dumb, why would do I run dance with me when I can pick distribution that's better? I won't get in a chase in the first place with it and don't even bother to play accordingly to counter aura readings. Heal 5mt of the killer and keep doing genes carelessly
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Read my previous post. I spent way too much time explaining it and I won't repeat myself so read it upBACKSTABBER said:@Malakir said:
BACKSTABBER said:@George_Soros said:
First off, it's a strange notion coming from someone called @BACKSTABBER ...
Second, it's not really gory. That belly slit open, those innards turned out are not actually shown. It looks more like a murder in a theater than a murder in a gory slasher movie.
I'm fine with it personally, as I hate pointless gore (horror lies in suspense and creepiness rather than buckets of blood, that's why Nurse and Doctor moris are the best). And for a video game, nice animations are also a welcome. I think in this sense, Legion's mori is decent.
the slide on the guts is excessively disgusting, the other moris are more cartoonish and less explicit, DBD went too far with that mori ending
Mathieu Côté is DAPGJSF for the Illuminati agenda, programming kids to accept total carnage as wonderful
I hope at least he is making good money or fame
Lol okay you are a troll
I posted why these things exists and I think I did pretty job so far [ ] explaining it and how this game isn't suited for underage or sensitive people so..Try civilization, it might fit better if you just wanna ignore those facts
nope I wont try any of the games suggested, I like this hide-and-seek game
my only complaint is about the sliding at the end, is tremendously disgusting #wenttoofar
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Okay so its totally off topic plus 2 of those perks are DENIED without even interacting with the killersG4rr3tt said:The perks survivors care the most are probably noed, ruin and spirit fury honestly, everything else is honestly just, nothing, even nurse call is not much of a deal.
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Lol okay you are a trollBACKSTABBER said:@George_Soros said:
First off, it's a strange notion coming from someone called @BACKSTABBER ...Second, it's not really gory. That belly slit open, those innards turned out are not actually shown. It looks more like a murder in a theater than a murder in a gory slasher movie.
I'm fine with it personally, as I hate pointless gore (horror lies in suspense and creepiness rather than buckets of blood, that's why Nurse and Doctor moris are the best). And for a video game, nice animations are also a welcome. I think in this sense, Legion's mori is decent.
the slide on the guts is excessively disgusting, the other moris are more cartoonish and less explicit, DBD went too far with that mori ending
Mathieu Côté is DAPGJSF for the Illuminati agenda, programming kids to accept total carnage as wonderful
I hope at least he is making good money or fame
I posted why these things exists and I think I did pretty job so far [ ] explaining it and how this game isn't suited for underage or sensitive people so..
Try civilization, it might fit better if you just wanna ignore those facts -
Doesn't exist only BBQ as aura reading btwThe_Daydreamer said:Remember the same overreaction with 2.0.0 because of the palettchanges? Here we go again.
Srsly that change against Aurareading is not that impactful. No rank 1 survivor cares about BBQ. -
OMG dude hahaha at least try to hide it
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Haha pay to win hahahahah nice bait tho
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You are console, well do what I do
Bait them to insult you while making fun of them without insulting like 'yeah, you were so good that I won't" silly example
Don't send images, like my lovely doctor saying gitgud since, at least on PS4, that was seen as inspirational and got 7days bands (I laughed my ass off for that)
Just be funny and don't fall for the trap. If they insult you, report and have fun. Never give these people the joy to upset you, they would get mad and insult you eventually if you just Make fun of them in a silly way, make fun about their play or that you won and he lost (even if not true since maybe you got 1k they get mad)
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how old are you to be triggered this badly? I'm serious. This game is rated M and isn't even close to other rated M games when it comes from violenceBACKSTABBER said:@Boss said:
@BACKSTABBER said:
so everything is allowed? I wanna see then naked skins, sex mortis and survivor kidsWe both know child violence will be banned real quick.
Naked skins could technically be done, as long as they don't make it a focus in the game, like Conan Exiles didn't.
But they don't want to do skimpy things like bikinis, so until those come out, this won't even be planned.Sex mortis? Sex Moris you mean?
Weren't you JUST complaining how it's too much gore?
Cause in that case, you should think a bit more about what you're wishing for here...I mean something like this with sex morans (from minute 2)
You know berserk so you might be 18+, but everybody knows that even younger people but these games so I'm curious to know your age
You don't like splatter and gorish stuff on your M rated games? Don't play them, nobody forces you to do it but you wanna force everybody that enjoy it to be denied of it. Sounds unfair
Violence in videogames are used to exorcize bad thoughts on people minds, release stress being violent in a game where you can vent without hitting anybody and releases cellular components on our brain that makes us feel better. Like having sex or eating a tasty food
Its been proved that helps to release stress and help in some cases depression depending on the particular subject of course. Everybody deal with these things in different ways but I'm sure anybody who's here enjoy to see a morning once in a while even to just feel good to have outplayed a guy and putted him out of the game in a sstylish and gore way or just to see the new one
Like one guy that thanked me I moried him so he could see the spirit morning and he enjoyed it too. So instead of going full nuclear being triggered on this formula I suggest you go just quit the game, since you might be impressed by these things and might hurt your fragile psyche or get over it like you did for berserk it seems.
Its not to be offensive, some people are afraid of blood and are sensitive to these things, if you are, don't play the game -
Cute, another survivor main. Even if weird I agree with the crusader on this one (it feels wrong)ToppingPanic said:Bruh every killer runs NOED, Ruin and BBQ, and you're trying to nerf the only way survivors fight back -_-
Noed- cleanse totems, i know big revelation
Bbq- you literally have 6 ways to counter it. Just to make you happy let's list the ones available WITHOUT perks.
1) hide behind a gen
2) fake direction for 4s
3) stand still for 4s then move wherever you want
AAAaand ruin- its an hex.. Every hex is literally a gamble. That might last 5s or 2min, depending on how crappy the totem spawn is. Usually awful as always.
So yeah.. Enduring for ds? Ok but you still left the killer grasp. What if the roles were switched. If you looped or did good losing or gaining distance from the killer, he presses a button and once per game get a free mori not enjoyable huh?
After using DS often people just rush to the closest loop, do their things, drop the pallet and next loop. Especially if its a safe pallet for example, so yeah your example are totally messed since every example of "powerful perk" on killer side are counterable without even interacting with the killer, just saying -
well you don't know the game either. Based on your biased comments let me guess, rank 9? Anyway it doesn't even matter since ranking is brokenAaron10 said:@George_Soros said:
You timed it wrong. Adapt and adjust. You're welcome.who are you? bear grills? i dont wanna hear from a player i wanna hear from devs who can actually explain and actually understand the game.
Anyway kid just dropped the pallet earlier and you get the stuff and no hit at all. Your timing was just bad, adapt darling. I can tell when a killer would hit me if I drop it, so am I ascended or just know the game better unlike you?
You ain't entitled to have a safe barrier so stop talking down to others who have way more knowledge of the game than you. You wanna quit cuz its unfair to not have a safe zone every 10mt? Too bad, I guess isn't a game for you since you need to learn and get better at it
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that's a valid point. Still pretty messy tho when you can counter aura reading perks in I many ways. I get its purpose and on paper its fine but can be easily broken. If I'm not wrong on pbe aura readings are also blocked by staying on lockers now so that's dumb if I'm correct in addition to this new perkScience_Guy said:When there are still three survivors running around when you hook someone with BBQ, you have bigger problems if you need an aura perk to find one of them.
You're also saying Distortion somehow perk encourages killers to emphasize stronger end-games, but if anything it's the opposite. BBQ always was and still is strongest towards the end, and if it's weaker for the first few hooks now, killers would need something else to make their earlier games stronger. If focusing everything at the end-game was better than a balanced build, they would be running a full end-game build now.
At any rate, if BBQ does become less popular, it will have nothing to do with a mediocre perk like Distortion and everything to do with the locker changes.@Malakir said:
Science_Guy said:You seem to be forgetting that Distortion only works a measly 3 times. Which means towards the end of the game, when finding survivors might actually be a challenge, it's useless.
True but what's the point of using sole survivor and dance with me if you have both in one perk? I prefer those 2 been buffed that have one perk that do the same job but using 1 slot
Well, Sole Survivor has never worth running and DWM still does need a buff. They really do have different niches though. DWM is supposed to help you break a chase, Distortion is supposed to help you avoid starting one by not being found. Incidentally, that is another reason why Distortion isn't worth it; good survivors shouldn't be too worried about getting found in the early-to-mid stages of a match.
I don't really have a problem with the others, I actually like the one you sabo after being unhooked, that's a smart thinking. Endorse a play style with a perk, what's not smart is just give a straight counter against a killer perk and let's remember its a 4v1 game
I think people are pretty pissed, me included, because not only this perk counter every aurora readings a killer have 3 times so they can even dare to heal in your Nurse calling area and don't give a cra for example, but also the new killer is pretty ######### in terms of power. I like the idea but its poorly executed.
The new killer perks are kinda fine, the 2 guy on a gen is kinda bad and the locker one is a meme perk anti Dwight but isn't like something that block 1 perk for all surveys 3 times. That would be op I the roles were swapped right? Even if its an asymmetrical game introduce something like that and give it to killers would make a huge backlash from survivor size, wouldn't it? That's why I get pissed from some posts that have obvious double standards for certain things -
So BBQ is the only aura reading perk for killers? Okay whatever, I guess nurse calling, bitter murmur doesn't count or some killer add ons etcTheBean said:Funny thing I think about distortion....
Allot of killers liked to come on here and say how BBQ and Chili wasn't really ever OP cause once you get good a finding survivors, killers just take it for the double BP it offers.
Now....
Once some killers see a small nerf to the aura reading part... It seems all hell has broken loose because the aura reading part of BBQ is being effected.
So... What is it?... Was BBQ and Chili always OP as some survivors suggested?
Or does it really matter?... Since when you are good with playing killer, you didn't need the aura reading part of BBQ and Chili.
So with that said...
The only killers that are really effected by that new perk, distortion, are new killers and those killers that heavily relied on the aura aspect of BBQ.
Basically doesn't effect high rank killer play.
BOOO YAH!
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True but what's the point of using sole survivor and dance with me if you have both in one perk? I prefer those 2 been buffed that have one perk that do the same job but using 1 slotScience_Guy said:You seem to be forgetting that Distortion only works a measly 3 times. Which means towards the end of the game, when finding survivors might actually be a challenge, it's useless.
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Again you saying this crap after I disproved you in the other thread? Lets count for the second time the BBQ countsaltruistic said:At one time in this game, we didn’t get aura abilities and perks. We still found people, we still killed people. It was a lot harder to catch a Survivor then too. Aura reading makes me a lazy Killer.
I am glad they are introducing a counter to BBQ. It gives me hope they still care about the stealth aspect of this game.
All the “I only use BBQ for the points” gamers have quietly disappeared.
1 stay behind a get (no perk needed)
2 fake direction ( no perk needed )
3 stand still for 4s then walk/run wherever you want ( no perk needed )
4 distortion
5 sole survivor
6 stay in the 30ish radii from the hook the go to a get ( no perk needed )
I might have missed some but you get the point even if I'm not sure since even in the other thread you are so stubborn and won't see facts.
Stealth aspect, like giving a survivor one perk which include dance with me and aura counter? Sure.. I'd like stealth buffs but that's no the way
Buff lightweight or rework it, they buffed ironwill but lets ignore that right? Buff calm spirit, oh wait they did. Use something that makes you walk atghe same speed even as crouching, like urban evasion?
I play mostly stealthy and I find just a lot of options to use, this new perk just makes others even more useless and you don't even need a brain to counter. Just equip it
I love the unhook sabo perk that endorse sabostyle but this one I just dumb. You have at least 4 ways to counter BBQ and company and you still need this. Guess they did this, a ton of survivors crying about BBQ because they won't adapt ( sounds familiar? )
"All the “I only use BBQ for the points” gamers have quietly disappeared"
Yes cuz as far as I can read all survivors would cry even about that. There is no way to have a discussion if they even challenge their own ideas. What everybody should do before sharing it then share it to challenge it to other individuals. Most of the time results in just an echo chamber thread
Now tell me again like in the other thread how if you face nurse or billy you can't fake direction. That part was hilarious since nurse is really weak to stealth and if you are decent you can loop billy or escape him anyway. I'm a terrible looper, more of a stealthy player and still can lose him or use some broken loops, if somebody bad like me can,anybody can. Won't always work I give you that, but that's what's needes to see your own improvement
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A lot of people. Just search for BBQ and you'll finna a lot of theaters because its unfair in a way or another.. There are pretty hilarious points some people make with their mental gymnasticReneAensland said:@Tsulan said:
Survivors: devs, do something about camping!!11!
Also survivors: yes, we need a aura reading blocking perk, so the killer won't leave the hook!facepalm
Survivors that use the new perk, shouldn't complain about getting camped.Well dude, a camper will camp. Regardless of BBQ.
Camping should be dealt with, but BBQ is easily countered.
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Wait. I gave you an counter argument and you as an answer just say obvious things like "killed is better now" no ######### sherlock, isn't the point I'm making an "I have played a lot so I'm right" OK..altruistic said:@Malakir said:
@altruistic you only play survivors? No seriously, all comments you just wrote are so survivor bias that makes me kinda cringe. No offenseSo distribution has 2 perks in one. Dance with me and a buffed sole survivor in one comfortable perk. Which is dumb by itself. I like the unhooks ones where you auto sabot the hooks which is good to push more guarantees
They didn't changed the pick up animation? Yes they did darling, they rreverted it. Its bad? No, its fine so you have to be more careful picking up surveys for flash saves but deny it its just hilariously wrong
Now BBQ. Lets count the counters of it since you are either blind or don't know how I works. I'll include even the changes of the next patch that might come live.
1 hide behind a gen
2 fake direction
3 stand still for 4s then walk again
4 distortion
5 lockers
6 stay in 30ish radius from the hookSo we have roughly 6 counties. 3 which are available now without any perk usage. I mean, I think its an overkill for that perk just because is being used fairly often. Just the fact you can counter it without perks should be enough but someone might not think so. Like the survivors who play only survivors making theaters everywhere to nerf it for example
You say they don't give a damn about stealth plays. Too bad that an excuse you are using. Many people, even with all these "aura reading" (nurse calling just don't heal in front of the killer) play stealthy successfully, its my main playstyle as survivor being used to the MGS saga.
I always love to see more stealth things but this is the wrong way since every aurora reading perk has its counter and now they added even more to help bad survivors that would hit rank 1 even easier and ruin other people games because they don't belong there
Like this BT change wasn't necessary at all, was just fine the way it was but now, if you are in chase you won't fall. Last survivor patrol when gates are open? Gone, BT and bye. Dumb people doing risky and dumb saves are even more endorsed to farm team mates.
I really like some changes, but others are really really dumb. If already I was playing almost survivors only to have more relaxed games now I even have less interest than before to play killer, and I love my spirit and my hair but I'd rather bully the killer than being bullied as one of them tbh
Since December 2017 I've played way more Killer than Survivor. Most of my playtime is in Survivor though, but Killer in 2018 is 1000%'s more fun than it used to be. I consistently get (and play) R1 Killer every month since December 2017 with a couple off months. The last two months I've played Survivor more, since the event made queue times even worse for Killers. I don't like sitting in lobbies, I prefer getting into games as quickly as possible.
Let me know how faking your direction works against Omega Blink Nurse or Hillbilly with Carb and Doom Engravings.
Yes it works faking direction even with those killers since nurse is weak against stealth, billy if takes the wrong direction would take a while to find a survivor again
if you are gonna dismiss my entire argument by saying obvious things like killer is more enjoyable now, then ok you do you but just means you didn't read the whole thing or you just wanna be right period
Plus a screen? Why? To prove you rabked up in a broken rank system? Grats, so what's the point?
I explained 6 ways to counter a single perk thats been fairly used half of them counter able perkless. as far as I can see you're one of those that think BBQ is op, if not what's your point? Seriously I can't get it -
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@altruistic you only play survivors? No seriously, all comments you just wrote are so survivor bias that makes me kinda cringe. No offense
So distribution has 2 perks in one. Dance with me and a buffed sole survivor in one comfortable perk. Which is dumb by itself. I like the unhooks ones where you auto sabot the hooks which is good to push more guarantees
They didn't changed the pick up animation? Yes they did darling, they rreverted it. Its bad? No, its fine so you have to be more careful picking up surveys for flash saves but deny it its just hilariously wrong
Now BBQ. Lets count the counters of it since you are either blind or don't know how I works. I'll include even the changes of the next patch that might come live.
1 hide behind a gen
2 fake direction
3 stand still for 4s then walk again
4 distortion
5 lockers
6 stay in 30ish radius from the hook
So we have roughly 6 counties. 3 which are available now without any perk usage. I mean, I think its an overkill for that perk just because is being used fairly often. Just the fact you can counter it without perks should be enough but someone might not think so. Like the survivors who play only survivors making theaters everywhere to nerf it for example
You say they don't give a damn about stealth plays. Too bad that an excuse you are using. Many people, even with all these "aura reading" (nurse calling just don't heal in front of the killer) play stealthy successfully, its my main playstyle as survivor being used to the MGS saga.
I always love to see more stealth things but this is the wrong way since every aurora reading perk has its counter and now they added even more to help bad survivors that would hit rank 1 even easier and ruin other people games because they don't belong there
Like this BT change wasn't necessary at all, was just fine the way it was but now, if you are in chase you won't fall. Last survivor patrol when gates are open? Gone, BT and bye. Dumb people doing risky and dumb saves are even more endorsed to farm team mates.
I really like some changes, but others are really really dumb. If already I was playing almost survivors only to have more relaxed games now I even have less interest than before to play killer, and I love my spirit and my hair but I'd rather bully the killer than being bullied as one of them tbh -
after 2 weeks I bought the game I was rank 1. This ranked system is laughable tbhG4rr3tt said:low rank problems? im at rank 1 bro lol
I should've not be able to hit it and I was pretty new, still reached it.
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1 okay but they don't ha e establishments in every region right? so now imagine have a server at Amsterdam for example, who lives there have no lag but the rest of Eu would lag if its not strong enough which is pretty easy. You have to spend more money not just to maintain it but also check, maintenance, updates etc which also I expensive without counting rewrite the code of the net code. I'd like that too but its more complicated than you think and might not be worth it since some might experience a bad game for these problems. So "gimme a break please"Vietfox said: Mk
1 - Not as many as local servers, that's why most games got dedicated servers. If you are playing a mp game and they let you to choose which one would you pick, local or dedicated? Gimme a break pls.Malakir said:
2 - You can get lag spikes even with green ping, and not always because survivors internet.
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Fun fact. I farm with feng for my spirit. Getting chased 24/7 and do a gen I enough to earn more than the killer, especially if you do save with we are gonna farm foreverAvariku said:it's really pathetic that so many killers are whining about this idea.
it literally does NOTHING to you... it simply incentivizes more survivor play.
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Uuuh I wanna do this game too!Visionmaker said:Killer mains:Instant heals and instant gens are bad for the gameThe game is too short and it's over before I can do anything.Also killer mains:Instant downs and instakills are skill based and should stay!I should be able to kill everyone after first hook! Stupid biased survivor mains!
Survivor mains
-Noed is bad for the game, I should do just gens, totems ain't objectives so I won't do it
-Its not fair pallets aren't my safe bubble, I shouldn't be hit through them!
- killer (insert name) its op, I can't play against it Nerf please!
Also survivor mains
-DS is hard to hit and its fair it stun and let me loop or hide afterwards. After all I do skill checks 24/7 and for me its hard hit it
-i should be able to survive an loop without thinking like was originally with infinity loops and Insta flashlights. Every killer should be at Freddy's level! And he's op as everybody knows
I like this game! Too bad if I had to write everything that survivors cry about on this forum I would spend hours to list them all. Like nerfing hag nerfing myers nerfing franklin demise etc etc it would take way too long. BTW was ffun do this roleplay -
My personal list:
Re silence
Open handed
Wake up
No One left behind (tweaks)
Deja Vu
Left Behind
Technician (even if helped me in the first 3 games ever)
Beast of prey
Monstrous Shrine
Unrelenting
Shadow born (tweaks)
Spies From the shadow
Pop goes the we asl
Play with your food
Stridor (tweak)
Surveillance
Hangman's trick
Territorial imperative
I skipped some since even if they are weak (like boil over, windows of opportunities, plunders instinct etc) they are pretty useful for the newer players and do what's meant to. Won't hell and experienced player but they are needed when you need to familiarize with the game -
Still wrong. Less grind is always good in either side and now the game is pretty balanced, the only thing that changes is now even newer survivors will learn to cleanse totemsCrazewtboy said:@Malakir said:
So you want to have more grind?
Then let's reverse even survivors perks that go tweaked so everybody have more grind again alright?
....Im good with that. Personally I thought things were balanced before all the perk changes. Now it seems like survivor perks are worse than before (some at least, some are BS for killers I will admit) and the killer perks made you actually work for that extra bous. It made you think about what was more valuable depending on the tier. Now it seems like things are just handed to the killers. Im not saying things should be handed to the survivors. Neither side should be handed a victory.
I prefer grind less to have a real perk. Before that noed level 1 and 2 wasn't even a perk, same for others, just a joke unless was level 3. So yeah I'd rather have alert be useful even at level 1 and same for noed instead of grinding tons of bloodwebs for 1 perk -
I can switch your "killer" to "survivor" and every critique you move on killer would make sense anywayFenix said:You can see who is killer main here.
The state for me atm is
Solo surv rank2: terrible, i mean its good they took the vacum away. Buth now i get hit even if i stun the killer first .
The same with windows , jump tru them still get hit even if i finneshd the jump.
Not even talking about the map design (not all of them)how are you gonna escape with straight walls next to each other.
And if there is a window, you can just walk by it.
And not even speaking about the biggest enemy your teammates.Killer rank2: i feel way more powerfull than used to be, sometimes even to powerfull.
Even with killers im not good with like freddy and trapper, im doing good.
Dont feel like im getting looped that mutch anymore.
3K is more the average now while it use to be 2k.
The only issue is still swf, buth only like 0.01% are frustrating.Overall : i like wath they did buth ,the hitboxes really feel like a mess . And alot off maps are a bit weird as surv. As soon i hit rank1 with surv, im gone keep it to killer.
I think alot off killer mains are lying here. or they just want the surv do nothing and get on that hook themself
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BTW its but not buth, much not mutch and I can go on but you got the point
For hit through pallets, just be smart. I don't think I'm the only one who can predict I will gonna get hit if the killer is at X range from me. I know what distance I need to drop the pallet safely getting a stun bonus so you just need practice
Vaults, same as the above
Map design, yeah map sucks sometimes but most of the time still advantage the survivor not the killer. Finally they closed some dumb double windows or those with huge loops after that but still. Very few maps advantage the killer, the only one I can think of is The Game and even there almost every pallet is a safe one with 0 mind game potential
If you think only 0.01% swf I a problem you are lying or just never found decent one. Lucky you. As survivor, solo survivor, I can loop the killer decently but some that I had in my team and were 3 SWF made a living hell for the killer. They saved me all the time with flashlights, eternal loop while doing gens almost in front of them. Your % its pretty deceiving and wrong
More kills overall, yeah because you new to actually think a little bit now. Before I just opened YouTube while playing survivor. I still do and have no issue surviving most of the time (farmers mates apart)
you think a lot of killer lie but as far as I can see you lie a lot too so I guess its even
The only thing I don't like atm is the vault changes, it was a lazy fix for maps problems. They still made improvements but I would've kept the vault the same as before, kinda arcade, and fixed the maps more deeply instead of this unintuitive midvaults
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When you score a point there is a little line right? Thats a pip, a black pipe is when you don't lose or get points and depip when you lose one at end gameXxAtomicAlfiexX said:@Malakir said:
You know the dev, matthew, used to insidious camping right?
Also the tutorial endorse it even if with experience you notice it doesn't really pay off unless they are super altruistic
So yeah, do gens and enjoy your pipe while the killer depipwhat does pip mean.i hear it alot and dont know what it means.
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You know the dev, matthew, used to insidious camping right?
Also the tutorial endorse it even if with experience you notice it doesn't really pay off unless they are super altruistic
So yeah, do gens and enjoy your pipe while the killer depip -
So you want to have more grind?
Then let's reverse even survivors perks that go tweaked so everybody have more grind again alright?
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