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@Speshul_Kitten said:
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Rebel_Raven said:@Speshul_Kitten said:
Rebel_Raven said:
Ask for a realistic WGLF buff, then? I don't believe a soul is stopping you. IIRC WGLF was adjusted because it encouraged unhooking people directly in front of a killer, and other potato tactics, though. Killers need to have fun, or at the least feel like they're accomplishing something in the face of the crap survivors put them through (Especially SWF having fun at the killer's expense), and it's only going to get worse with the new survivor and aura blocker lockers. So, yeah, why not make a perk better towards this goal?
There just seems to be so much rant after one measley nerf to BBQ and everyone is losing their minds. Meanwhile, survivors are still farming teammates with WGLF and just adding BT to not lose the points.
BT is getting a solid adjustment, though. Killers aren't too thrilled. Survivors are.
It's not a measly nerf either, it removes a hefty chunk of why people use it all together.
Really, am I the only one who uses it for BP’s?? From all the post I’ve seen most killers use it for BP’s. They must’ve changed their minds overnight.
but yes BT is getting a buff, all the more reason to farm with WGLF right?? That’s why WGLF deserves more of a readjustment then B.B.Q does right now.
Ehm just saying, we talk about BBQ because its the most used but these changes in combination with the new perk would easy counter EVERY aurora reading. Nurse calling, random, bitter murmur etc aura perks that INCENTIVES hunting and not camping
Plus BBQ had already 6 counties before these announced changes, 3 of them perk less. That's why people are pissed. One of the most used and counterable perks used by killers getting even more counties and nerfs so even a child can counter it now not even hiding behind a gen or faking a direction for example
Now people would heal next to the killer, he won't see you with nurse calling Anyway
Etc etcThat's why people are pissed and even me since I have even less interest to play killer than usual if these changes get through. I would see way more farmers and dumb mates at high ranks not for their accomplishments but because its even easier, leading a more frustrating game even on survivor side
Think like the killers are the ones who should sort it out who deserves to be high rank and good survivors the same for killers. If anybody can rank up even easier would hurt everybody.
Back to the topic, people get pissed nnot only making aura perks way less useful but also one of the strongest perks that everybody asked for a change, even from survivor side, DS, wasn't changed at all while all aura perks and one of the most counterable and used perk nerfed
But here’s the thing, would you give up any of your meta perks for this new survivor perk? I sure as hell wouldn’t. Furthermore, if we’re gonna talk about survivors having to use another perk to hide auras, doesn’t the killer have the ability to bring in Iron Maiden as well? Even more, survivors can only use that perk until it runs out of tokens.
I still think if they’re gonna rebuff BBQ then they should also buff WGLF to adjust the BT. WGLF is long overdue.
First of, why should any killer give up an older meta perk to counter a new broken perk for the survivor side?
That logic make no sense and I explained pretty well why people are pissed, why isn't a good change while you just say "Well, would you sacrifice something to not make this broken thing get in a live server?".. seriously, you can have a debate or you are just dumb?Yes the killer have such strong perk like, if a survivor exit a locker they are exposed for 15s. So to hit them in 15s they are already pretty close to just open the locker itself if I know they are there.
The other perk is "you can spam attacks while carrying a survivor with no cd and when you get body blocked you won't lose the grip on your prey". This is sooooooo situational you have no idea
and the last perk "show if 2 survivors works in a gen" so now the survivor have even more incentives to do gen rush correctly, 1 gen per survivor.
Totally the same thing as:
Perk that prevent auras 3 times, any auras not only BBQ, any auras that helped SURVIVORS to not be camped and incentives killer to leave the hookPerkless mechanic, now you counter auras even without perks staying in a locker. Yeah, even a perkless ability, great. So now I would use your logic. Let's say at the start of the game you all are exposed for 2 minutes, no counterplay, no totems to break. Just first 2 minutes exposed unless you are in a hook. Won't be a perk but would you sacrifice your DS or a meta perk to prevent this change? Now I hope you realize how stupid your sentence was
A perk that's bond 2.0 (after care). So another aura perk for survivor, which I won't mind, actually I like it and I might use it. The problem is all killers auras are being nerfed, even the ones that were barely viable now would become trash
Breakdown, i love this one since it opens up more to sabo builds. The problem? punish killers to do hooks, which is bad for one single reason. All the other nerfs that might came up makes the new killer perks laughable.
All these things plus just to make it even better, a killer that can't kill. Can only Hurt survivor but sucks at actually down them, an actual clown for survivors entertainment. Yeah I can figure out why people are pissed, if you can't you might play just one side or just stubborn to understand what you don't like taking it like a personal attack
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Ehm just saying, we talk about BBQ because its the most used but these changes in combination with the new perk would easy counter EVERY aurora reading. Nurse calling, random, bitter murmur etc aura perks that INCENTIVES hunting and not campingSpeshul_Kitten said:
Really, am I the only one who uses it for BP’s?? From all the post I’ve seen most killers use it for BP’s. They must’ve changed their minds overnight.Rebel_Raven said:@Speshul_Kitten said:
Rebel_Raven said:Ask for a realistic WGLF buff, then? I don't believe a soul is stopping you.
IIRC WGLF was adjusted because it encouraged unhooking people directly in front of a killer, and other potato tactics, though.
Killers need to have fun, or at the least feel like they're accomplishing something in the face of the crap survivors put them through (Especially SWF having fun at the killer's expense), and it's only going to get worse with the new survivor and aura blocker lockers.
So, yeah, why not make a perk better towards this goal?
There just seems to be so much rant after one measley nerf to BBQ and everyone is losing their minds. Meanwhile, survivors are still farming teammates with WGLF and just adding BT to not lose the points.
BT is getting a solid adjustment, though. Killers aren't too thrilled. Survivors are.
It's not a measly nerf either, it removes a hefty chunk of why people use it all together.
but yes BT is getting a buff, all the more reason to farm with WGLF right?? That’s why WGLF deserves more of a readjustment then B.B.Q does right now.
Plus BBQ had already 6 counties before these announced changes, 3 of them perk less. That's why people are pissed. One of the most used and counterable perks used by killers getting even more counties and nerfs so even a child can counter it now not even hiding behind a gen or faking a direction for example
Now people would heal next to the killer, he won't see you with nurse calling Anyway
Etc etc
That's why people are pissed and even me since I have even less interest to play killer than usual if these changes get through. I would see way more farmers and dumb mates at high ranks not for their accomplishments but because its even easier, leading a more frustrating game even on survivor side
Think like the killers are the ones who should sort it out who deserves to be high rank and good survivors the same for killers. If anybody can rank up even easier would hurt everybody.
Back to the topic, people get pissed nnot only making aura perks way less useful but also one of the strongest perks that everybody asked for a change, even from survivor side, DS, wasn't changed at all while all aura perks and one of the most counterable and used perk nerfed -
Asymmetrical game. Its not a 1v1 fighting gameSpeshul_Kitten said:
There are multiple post asking for BBQ buffs in case you didn’t notice.Blueberry said:No one's asking for a BBQ buff, we're saying the locker aura block is gonna be bad for the games health. Also, WGLF is far from useless, it's literally a perk I never take of because of all the extra BP's it gives.
I don't think you are seeing the ramifications of this aura blocking on the game if it goes through.
So if WGLF is far from useless that makes BBQ even further from useless as you not only get the benefits of WGLF but also potential auras.
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Omg that's genius hahaha I'm gonna edit that tomorrowBingBongBoi said:Special tier? Don't you mean the D A R N tier? -
Since your OP was chill I would answer in the same manner
I play mostly egoist I do maybe that's why I survived fairly enough. I do gens 24/7 unless I know 100% he's out of the book and even then I might stick to it missing a skill check on purpose to have his attention like 'hey, I'm gen rushing, come!'
BT its fine, I never used it aside for few games with randoms who invited me in a party chat and we did some games. That BT gave enough time to the guy take a hit, run straight to the exit gates and billy ended up with 0k since after he hit once the guy he can run and I can fake on additional damage because I'll body block the killer. Happened some times during my swf experience
While I play alone I just gen rush and take the guy to a tour to pallet town, even if I suck at looping I can manage to waste some time. Between 30s and 1+min which is equal at on gen. the problems with tunneling I've seen come from the survivor side, making dumb saves when the guy is around (even warning them spamming the koebe) or Insta unhooks
Rarely I see face camps and tunneling is mostly caused by my fellow mates. I have to admit I have improved my chase skills for that reason, still a problem I have with survivors tho, no much about killer. One of the reasons why I run adrenaline and urban evasion, the first to run like hell when unhooked and gens finished the second to hide fast if not
I might be wrong but that's why I don't see tunneling such an issue or at least not on killer side. I tunnel gens all day even after they kick them so, its just more efficient -
Well in that way I would accept it if won't take any progression during chases. That is the only problems I would see , other than that that's okgrisstyl said:@Malakir said:
For the first one I think might be too abusable if made like thatFor the second I'd like that too
@Mister_xD said:
only if it makes exhaustion recover 50% slower while running. i do not want to see 2 Sprint Bursts in one chase anymore.
this ######### was broken.The idea is that in order to potentially get two exhaustion usages in one chase/recover while running you would need to use two perk slots. It's a bit different than before where every exhaustion perk recovered while running.
While running since that's how exhaustion works.
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I see some people thinking mid low its equal low and mid high is equal high even when there is a clear Mid Tier as header.
Mid high tier are those who would need some tweaks to reach higher tier while mid low needs more buffs but not huge ones.
So there's actually 5 tiers, mid tier high or low still mid tier
@The_Crusader
@Blueberry in fact he is mid. Mid low caused by the vault changes making his gas being kinda messed up, like a indirect Nerf not necessary -
For the first one I think might be too abusable if made like that
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I love so much spirit but she doesn't really need that tbh. If I really wanna be greedy I would take few add on buffs or a 2% increased movement speed to make her more unique but that's just out of greed
She's fine as she is and even nurse calling is great with her low terror radius being able to sneak in especially with no sound add on -
Well hopefully it would have a nice asolo or some good rifts
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Oh, I actually never found billys camping, they were always nice when I had them against. I've seen more LF and Hags camping lately, for the last one.. It hurts see Hag campmalloymk said:Lol. Even before this chapter I could count the amount of camping Bbq hillbillies on more than one hand. A camper doesn't need an excuse to camp. It's already in their nature to camp. -
Thanks, btw he's mid-low for me not really low since he has a lot of potential but the vault changes kinda messed him up. I divided mid tier in high and low since I didn't like the D to S rateOnionthing said:Clown? Low tier?! ... Well you did say this was your own opinion.
I also realized the descriptions were more jokey and cutesy character profiles than actual game-play notes.
So .. entertaining read
Yeah that's more of a mental note I got inspired to share. Wished to have a HTML code to work with to make more interactive stuff. Plus listen others opinions is always appreciated -
@friendlykillermain there you go. Took it long to make it but at last I did it haha
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@Malakir said:
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haha I love the legion "Just Why"!
You gave me the idea for doing a tier list too, I love it. I would give a category just for freddy too. Hopefully legion would be tweakedi know his deep wound needs to be nerfed then he will be better i do have a lot of controversy on my list though like trapper and wraith being so high up but as a better than average chess player i think i can get away with that
you play chess? Now you are really a friendly killer main to me! haha yeah depends anyway, I put them lower just for being so loopable and not so hard to deal with
yes i was a semifinalist in the state tournament twice and a finalist once although i have never on then i graduated high school and haven't really gone into a tournament since then usually the only times i play are when i see some hotshot think they're really good and i want to cut them down to size
still though being a finalist was pretty great but damn some people are just ai when it comes to chessYeah i know right, I never joined a tournament but I love playing that. Even casually its just fun but when I found some the real deals I've noticed too they were AI.. you can't beat them, they are way ahead of you before you even realize what's going to be next
yeah and i never devoted that much time to chess i would just play a few games with my Friends for fun my favorite pieces are the bishops and knights if your opponent isnt paying attention to your back line and only your front line (i use rooks and the queen as a diversion) you can get a early checkmate in no time because when someone is panicking they never seem to notice the bishop staring across at them from the back of a board
i love the trapper because on a good match i can trap at least 3 people during a single hook rescue leading to a easy end but like a said the time it takes to set up puts him lower than SI love the hag for almost the same reasons and you actually have my same favorite pieces. I really don't have a strategy except trying to make sure to lead you to make a mistake that I can take advantage off eating knight and tower in few steps. I'd like to play with you, I would learn a lot for sure!
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@friendlykillermain said:
@Malakir said:
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@Malakir said:
haha I love the legion "Just Why"!
You gave me the idea for doing a tier list too, I love it. I would give a category just for freddy too. Hopefully legion would be tweakedi know his deep wound needs to be nerfed then he will be better i do have a lot of controversy on my list though like trapper and wraith being so high up but as a better than average chess player i think i can get away with that
you play chess? Now you are really a friendly killer main to me! haha yeah depends anyway, I put them lower just for being so loopable and not so hard to deal with
yes i was a semifinalist in the state tournament twice and a finalist once although i have never on then i graduated high school and haven't really gone into a tournament since then usually the only times i play are when i see some hotshot think they're really good and i want to cut them down to size
still though being a finalist was pretty great but damn some people are just ai when it comes to chessYeah i know right, I never joined a tournament but I love playing that. Even casually its just fun but when I found some the real deals I've noticed too they were AI.. you can't beat them, they are way ahead of you before you even realize what's going to be next
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@friendlykillermain said:
@Malakir said:
haha I love the legion "Just Why"!
You gave me the idea for doing a tier list too, I love it. I would give a category just for freddy too. Hopefully legion would be tweakedi know his deep wound needs to be nerfed then he will be better i do have a lot of controversy on my list though like trapper and wraith being so high up but as a better than average chess player i think i can get away with that
you play chess? Now you are really a friendly killer main to me! haha yeah depends anyway, I put them lower just for being so loopable and not so hard to deal with
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haha I love the legion "Just Why"!
You gave me the idea for doing a tier list too, I love it. I would give a category just for freddy too. Hopefully legion would be tweaked -
yeah I guessed it. I always get confused a bout that since I have a personal tier list in mind but never checked if there is an official one or something. I saw some like tydetime or ardetha tier list but I always kept mine as main idea until I see an ""official"" oneBlueberry said:@Malakir said:
Blueberry said:I'd say a killer being mid-tier is pretty bad. To me, mid-tier means you can perform well but you require the survivors to make a lot of mistakes and I don't think that's a very strong place to be in where your success is dependent on survivors rather than your own skill.
Depend on what you mean when you say mid tier. For me mid tier isn't like that. Your description for me fit better on mid-low/low tier. A mid tier for me is someone you can perform decently (2-3k on average) when you know what you can do and when mained be as solid as an average high tier.
Like I would put the hag in mid tier for example, and i love her but if you play her casually you won't perform as good like using someone like huntress. In the other hand if you know where to put the traps, know how she works etc you can be as solid
Then there's the god tier which its been taken by just 2 killers and you can guess who
I mean mid-tier or low-mid those are pretty close. Our interpretation of mid-tier seems different as well. This can also very a lot depending who you put in that mid-tier. For example you mentioned hag, I would not put hag in mid-tier.
Like I put hag there cuz with her you can be very scary if you main her. Even if she's more mid-high while clown mid-low.. Still, she's easy to beat if the person who uses her don't know how to "abuse" the traps, like for example making the survivor turn in a way during a chase, cut loops etc
Hard to master with an average reward
Higher tier is easier to master compared to hag (arguably) and even get higher rewards
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Dude, people always talk about their but honestly there I a scheme or something? I mean, i have my personal tier list in mind but maybe I'm just ignorant and there is an ""'official"" tier list I don't know about?friendlykillermain said:@Malakir said:
Master said:While I like the concept of it, the idea will never get approved since survivors will never support the idea of adding such a risk to their beloved perks ("crutches").
I play mostly survivor buuut call them crutches is kinda too meme. They are just designed by a "special" monkey (yes Laurie I'm looking at your ds, still level 1 and will ever be for good)
Still, I'd rather have a DS that stun and give me more wiggle time than that. Many times I almost wiggled off because the killer was getting greedy for specific hooks or basement
Anyway back to the topic, if they fix totems I would love to see a killer or even a survivor perk based non them. Giving it even more depth
RNJesus is very hard to balance especially with these kind of games. If was up to me I would get rid of it almost totally to design it properly
yeah its is one of the reasons the pig isn't s teir
I'm getting confused about this argument in another thread that people say mid tier is bad when I put there many of my favorite killers and just one of them reach high tier
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Depend on what you mean when you say mid tier. For me mid tier isn't like that. Your description for me fit better on mid-low/low tier. A mid tier for me is someone you can perform decently (2-3k on average) when you know what you can do and when mained be as solid as an average high tier.Blueberry said:I'd say a killer being mid-tier is pretty bad. To me, mid-tier means you can perform well but you require the survivors to make a lot of mistakes and I don't think that's a very strong place to be in where your success is dependent on survivors rather than your own skill.
Like I would put the hag in mid tier for example, and i love her but if you play her casually you won't perform as good like using someone like huntress. In the other hand if you know where to put the traps, know how she works etc you can be as solid
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I play mostly survivor buuut call them crutches is kinda too meme. They are just designed by a "special" monkey (yes Laurie I'm looking at your ds, still level 1 and will ever be for good)Master said:While I like the concept of it, the idea will never get approved since survivors will never support the idea of adding such a risk to their beloved perks ("crutches").
Still, I'd rather have a DS that stun and give me more wiggle time than that. Many times I almost wiggled off because the killer was getting greedy for specific hooks or basement
Anyway back to the topic, if they fix totems I would love to see a killer or even a survivor perk based non them. Giving it even more depth
RNJesus is very hard to balance especially with these kind of games. If was up to me I would get rid of it almost totally to design it properly -
Fps and stuff like slow camera movement even if set at max especially if compared to a mouse, and aim for certain killersfriendlykillermain said:@Vietfox said:
Master said:@Vietfox said:
Malakir said:
Vietfox said: Malakir said: Vietfox said: Malakir said: Vietfox said: Malakir said: Vietfox said: Malakir said: Vietfox said: Iceman said: What do you platform do you play on because I would like to play against you right now. Anyone who plays clown gets an average of 1-2 kills per match. The clown is not op. It is so easy to dodge his bottles. He can still get looped. Wrong, clown is op in the right hands, as it should be. Yeah and today in a beautiful green sky when I played DbD I wrecked people by flying with the clown putting jack in the boxes everywhere scaring the living ######### out of people I'm sorry you don't know how to play with the clown. I'm sorry you just play 50% of the game I don't, i play both killer and survivor, try again.
If you played more as a killer you would know that the clown is not as bad as you think.
So now you know what I think? I just stated and mads it clearl isn't even slightly opened, he's mid tier in my tier list but nothing special Your mind reads are pretty weak, try again You are just guessing mate, can you provide some real proof? Wat
Wait what??
Please tell me what you smoke, it must be really good. I have no idea what are you talking about
Mmh i see, u dont understand.
The clown is mid tier due to your skills.
I'm not saying i'm good with the clown, but i've seen clowns keeping the map pressure as good as a billy.
@Blueberry has over 2K hours and despite the fact that we usually disagree he will tell you that the clown is a good killer as well.
Good killer isn't mid tier? Wait what? Dude now I seriously doubt your sanity. Mid tier is the new trash tier? And now what's this Clown as equal as billy, are you okay? That statement alone is so dumb, okay whatever dude. I really don't know what to tell you if you think one char that have a power nurse like with instadown that can make pressure over the entire map in seconds at the same level as a M1 killer with bottles to slow survivors I don't know what to tell you I actually won't even talk to you honestly after seeing dozen of posts from you with this kind of flawed logic. You might be rank 20 or just played for less than 2weeks, that might be it, still we cannot agree in anything. When you start thinking then maybe we can have a discussion Good killer = above mid tier
Keep it that way mate, i like it when someone is that hostile. Makes me be right.
Edit: yeah, rank 20 mate, whatever makes you feel better
Console yikes
I come from pc dude, what wrong with the console anyway?
A part from fps and stuff*yeah what is wrong with console?
Except these things not much, but just these things makes the nurse, a God tier killer, almost unplayable as well as my adorable hag with her solid 15 to 5 fps when lounging or in corn maps and some other ones -
Mh creative but I would do it with other perks. I'd rather see the obsession mechanic revisited since if you see an obsession you do 2 things
1 avoid them
2 tunnel to death
Most likely the first one, which is the opposite of being obsessed with something or someone.
If they made perks that works like that would be great but totems now have just one issue. They are hidden like a light in the dark, you can't miss them.
I would bind something new to it for sure, something different like your idea or sabo but for totems or even a killer that created fake totems in addition of his her power
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Bad idea, what if the meta change? What if some of them get reworked in either side?
Just rework the DS itself and that's it. You have been creative I give you that but I won't bind an existing perk to a mechanic to balance it
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Omg no, its the actual chance. You wanna negate even though patch notes say sostrikingearth26 said:@Malakir said:
strikingearth26 said:@Malakir said:
strikingearth26 said:
I watch a streamer who made a character out of one of the survivors, one being "pallet peggy" aim of the game is to drop every pallet on the map, some maps have less than 10 pallets, others have around 14-15. never more than 15 though. just an FYI.
Wrong. The minimum is 15 per map, it took 30s on google to look it up
With a google search, I can only find killer mains speculating on how many pallets per map and most of those were back in 2017, there has been pallet and window vault purges since then... perhaps we should ask a dev for an accurate answer.
OK you can't use google
- In The Game map, set the minimum number of pallets to 15.
Source: https://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/Patches
There you can check that even the smallest map of the game have it. There is a line where its said there is a minimum and maximum of pallets in every map. In a dev stream was been said its 15 at minimum and 20ish maximum depending on the map
So who's speculating now?
Purges of pallets? So remove ONE I say it again ONE pallet in few maps for you its pallet purge. Okay dude, get informed
that is ptb notes, and not in full effect now. will be soon. thankfully! I've seen some maps literally have no pallets in usable places, and windows boarded up that were not before.
Even when the devs mentioned it
I was already playing when they made this change and saw it in the first hand aside all the proofs I've given
Look I can't win in a discussion real vs feel, you "FEEL" is this way? You "BELIVE" I this way? You do you. I spent even too much resources giving you facts data and sources and you keep talking about beliefs
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On console isn't played because some killers and some maps are laggy as hell on console that's why I better see the PC prospective more with more stable fps and be able to aim properly with a mouseVietfox said:
Nurse isn't commonly played on console either and that doesn't mean she's not good, just takes more time to master her.Dragonredking said:LOL
He's so OP that freddy is more commonly played than him
Since its release I met one single clown
ONEDragonredking said:LOL
He's so OP that freddy is more commonly played than him
Since its release I met one single clown
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I might be wrong since I'm curious too if this is true but as far as I know you have the default ones which are Susie and the main guy ( I'm bad at names) then there would be other cosmetics for them in the future
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oh my fking god again? You can just say that over and over in every thread you see about this argument? We gor it!altruistic said:We had no aura reading perks from June 2016 to September 2017, it'll be fine.
You know what this game had? Infinite loops
Insta flashlight
Pallet vaccuum
Things change, new stuff get released, but apparently you are just stuck on this idea and you MUST say this sentence every single time about the aura reading BUT only from killer side, aura reading for survivors are fine right?
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Yeah I would agree with you, if you delete almost every other notification that survivors gets for freeAlwaysInAGoodShape said:@Wolf74
That's the thing. Nobody would be sneaking around because they don't know if they're wasting time.
Currently (disregarding the obsession) you would only know someone is being chased IF they are HIT, which means that they maybe have already looped the killer for the longest time and you SHOULD have been doing Gens OR they are SWF's.We know for a fact that the developers do not want to buff killers, while we do. That's because we want killers to be able to win against SWF-type of gameplay while the Devs want Solo survivors to stand a decent chance at winning against killers at all ranks.
If we celebrate keeping Solo survivors down by not giving them tools SWF's have for free then it's hard to ever move to balance.
If this mechanic was implemented and people started understanding how to use it, then there would be more sneaking around, as you know nobodies cover has been broken anyway yet. No reason to be rushing when the clock isn't ticking yet.
There's lullaby? You won't be notified even seen the effect for example. Same for every other perk related notification, just leave the bubble and the aura when hooked and notify when an hex is destroyed.
That's it since this alone would actually tell to everyone "hide" or "do gens" making them be even more efficient without drawbacks
It should be an horror game and already be notified this much I ridiculous, I can't play horror games normally but this one? it feels like way too arcade with all the info I get already and since killers ain't such a huge threat I don't feel it anymore as a scary game (myers aside) ask for even more information on the current state f the game I just say too much -
oh I love that perk, this might be the first time I prefer take survivor first for that perk aloneThe_Crusader said:I predict a number of sabo swuads with breakdown. If you hook them yoi'll only be doing them a favour. -
oh you're on ps4 too. Nice message you had, I lost counts of them
The only thing I can say is avoid to use certain words like nuts and don't send picture (like I did with the "GitGud" doctor meme) since they might report you to sony and you might get banned for it.
I got 1 week ban for sending people that picture when they called me names so, yeah.. fun
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There is no easy solution for several reasons:
1 If you're stuck with a team that does absolutely nothing and you did 2 gens and maybe even lost the killer fairly good the devs wanna reward these players with the hatch which in those situations is fair
2 acknowledging the first point some issues rises. Like suicide to make a friend take the hatch or abusing in a way or another the system, like hatch camping etc
3 counting the first two points as facts you can figure out its hard to make the first point happen and deny the second without a total rework of the end gameEasy fixes doesn't exist, I can't think of a solution, a fair solution, for both sides since even the closing hatch can be abusable but for the killer part in that case. You have always to think how people can abuse a mechanic, its how internet works and any game tbh. They just should figure out a way to fix the end game entirely but granting a chance to survive to who did good enough to get that chance. The problem is find a good way to do so.
Even just your example, takes 5 sec animations for both sides and cannot be interrupted by the killer side. How can I abuse it? I spam the animation so he can't do ######### about, if he gets away i follow him. If the survivor goes too far I hit them if they don't I run back to the hatch since I'm slightly faster
How can I abuse it as survivor? I can hold him hostage until he just goes afk or get pissed enough that he starts to message me. I take that moment to get the hatch or just make the killer have a bad time because "he dares" to "waste my time"
You have to deal with abusable mechanics and people egos, so yeah, easy fixes doesn't exist without a full rework on the end game
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@ToppingPanic said:
Squad family, these wait times are ass. No idea why this is so bad, would love some insight or a dev to make a patch. This game is way more fun as a multiplayer to do with your friends than ride solo.With how many friends you're playing?
I've noticed that with a group of 2 the queue takes fairly long.
Solo its pretty fast and as well with 4 men don't take much timeI think there are more 3/4 swf and solos than 2 men groups. So yeah, idk how the matchmaking works but I guess with the new hidden swf patch that's coming that would fix even some matchmaking issue this won't happen as often.
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Yeah.. if totems didn't have already awful spawns and hex totems weren't a gamble I would accept that and even with higher numbers
With the status the totems are right no? hell no
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@Vietfox said:
I'm just gonna leave this here:Skip red pings lobbies, that's it
I saw this happen only when I accepted to give it a chance to a red ping killer. In other instances didn't happen
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"In general the gen should take 40 seconds if both of us isn't using a toolbox right ?"
no
"so my Moderately more speed toolbox + moderately more speed add on is just a lie ???"
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Isn't like 80s for one survivor = 40s with 2 survivors
There's diminishing returns depending on how many survivors are working on a gen
That's why genrush exist and require 1 survivor per gen
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Anyway you keep saying a free escape I balanced and advocate for that even when the devs themselves felt bad after seeing how abusable that perk is
Actually yeah, legit played games today where i dont even run crutch perks, first thing that happened, i got tunneled to death and off hook, i couldnt even play at all, and why was that? i spawned next to a hex ruin, started cleansing it, so the killer tunneled me and even camped so i wouldnt cleanse it, and that is a "valid" strategy on every killer main eyes, yet if it happened to you as survivor and u stand legit no chance, because you dont expect to get farmed and tunneled you would be just as tired of that bs like me and many other survivors who run ds and adrenaline for those 2 reasons.
True i should give a try to rank 1 killer, at least on my pov, i still see more 4/4 matches where the killer gets every kill on rank 1, than survivors escaping honestly, i played as killer main before 2.1.0 and it was damn hard, best rank i got was 12 and i didnt even know how to play, right now, running perkless on some killers for dailies, i got up to rank 7 just doing dailies, if u can easly get to that and probably even more, id say the game is most likely balanced, sure rank 1 might be harder, but you have almost 16 ranks, from 20 to 6 or 7, which will be beyond easy... Rank 1 is meant to be hard for both sides, id say balanced is if the killer can get a good amount of points and 2-3 kills. but getting 4/4 every single game as you guys want, if that day ever happens ill just uninstall the game, there will be no point playing a class called SURVIVOR if you will never SURVIVE...
Okay so farmed right... if your team won't do gens but try to unhook you right after and actually farming you its killer fault? I blame the survivor not the killer for doing his job. Whenever I get farmed I actually wanna duck that guy up even giving tips to the killer where he is if I can, its his fault
I always asked to an emote or something, a way to interrupt unhooking, apparently was introduced and obviously survivors abused that so.. I know how you could get pissed about it but honestly I get pissed towards my ducking mate that just wanna stack his "we are gonna farm forever". One of the reasons why I sell out my mates whenever I can to save myself and attempt unhooks only if I'm 120% sure the killer isn't around
So yeah its a legit strategy for a killer like its a legit strategy keep working on a 80%gen after the killer kicked it. So what? Its rude keep working on a gen that the killer just kicked!
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@Visionmaker said:
@Peanits said:
But if you ask me, it's high time some people just learn to play against them.Um excuse me, how dare you suggest that I lost because of my own deficiencies. Every game I lose is because playing with friends is basically hacking and should be banned forever. As a mod you should understand this tyvm.
Tnh i'm fine to get swf but the system itself is flawed. For example, I wanna play a normal game on game X, we'll call it Paul. So we are playing Paul as 4 man group everyone have fun. Now I'm alone and I wanna go ranked, I can gather just one friend to do ranked together, the rest are randoms that can't coordinate like we do in normal. Tadaaaa
"yeah but no killer would play that" true, mmh lets give a lil buff on normals on them. Like a 5% movespeed or something that might balance out. Even just an additional objective like the one we had in the blight would be fine
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@Vietfox said:
Malakir said:
Vietfox said:Killers shouldnt be able to see survivors profile/names.
Lol wat
Yeah its the same thing provide other people know your entire build and the killer not be able to see profile/names of survivors. Totally the same thing
(?)Please gimme your drugdealer's phone number.
Lol you even steal my lines from other threads, cute
You are the one who won't make people be able to see other people profile making it at the same level of telling others the perks the killer is running so, yeah I think you are the one who uses some sort of drugs, good ones for sure!
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@Vietfox said:
Malakir said:@Vietfox said:
Malakir said:
@Vietfox : Good killer = above mid tier Keep it that way mate, i like it when someone is that hostile. Makes me be right. Edit: yeah, rank 20 mate, whatever makes you feel better Dude, I feel so bad that I gave you that +1 view for no reason. Its a bad montage where you (obviously) play survivors only. What should it prove? That you played against a Clown? so what? You stated that the Clown have the same map pressure of Billy which is insanely dumb. Now I state it more clear, don't tag me again, your opinion doesn't meet the requirements to get my interest since ain't intelligent or smart but bias and dumb in my humble opinion. Clown is good? I put it on mid tier, nothing special but can do his job but you are too stubborn to accept that and think he's op in a way or another which is a lie. Especially when you play almost survivor only so your opinion can't be taken that seriously either by me. Still, if you are gonna try to get some views spamming these empty videos trying to proving a point by.. not proving a point with it, at least try to choose wisely and make people see more things about the topic. Good Luck with your nonsense and have fun with those videos
Yeah i only play as a survivor
Okay its "mostly". Still proves nothing if your thoughts speak louder and took just one sentence out of that post. Seriously now, I won't bother you again. You cannot say anything useful and your points has been proven wrong even by a mod saying the same thing I said. Clown is nothing special and isn't even near as Billy as you say so hf
Dude, u called me rank 20 and i proved i'm not.
U said i only play survivor and i proved i don't.
Please stop embarrassing yourself.
Clown is a really good killer, not as good as billy but certainly better than a mid tier killer. Again, not my fault u don't know how to use him.whatever dude I don't care what you say so you do you
you embarassed yourself way too many times just to get some views on your vid. Seriously, stop tagging me, would be great, you disproved yourself many times, you already convinced yourself and its fine just don't bother me and I won't bother you ok? good -
@Vietfox said:
Malakir said:@Vietfox :
Good killer = above mid tier
Keep it that way mate, i like it when someone is that hostile. Makes me be right.
Edit: yeah, rank 20 mate, whatever makes you feel better
Dude, I feel so bad that I gave you that +1 view for no reason. Its a bad montage where you (obviously) play survivors only. What should it prove? That you played against a Clown? so what?
You stated that the Clown have the same map pressure of Billy which is insanely dumb. Now I state it more clear, don't tag me again, your opinion doesn't meet the requirements to get my interest since ain't intelligent or smart but bias and dumb in my humble opinion.
Clown is good? I put it on mid tier, nothing special but can do his job but you are too stubborn to accept that and think he's op in a way or another which is a lie. Especially when you play almost survivor only so your opinion can't be taken that seriously either by me.
Still, if you are gonna try to get some views spamming these empty videos trying to proving a point by.. not proving a point with it, at least try to choose wisely and make people see more things about the topic. Good Luck with your nonsense and have fun with those videos
Yeah i only play as a survivor
Okay its "mostly". Still proves nothing if your thoughts speak louder and took just one sentence out of that post. Seriously now, I won't bother you again. You cannot say anything useful and your points has been proven wrong even by a mod saying the same thing I said. Clown is nothing special and isn't even near as Billy as you say so hf
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@Strider said:
The clown is anything but OP, like others have mentioned he has no map control and even in a chase he's not that much better because his bottles are easily avoidable. I have the clown and he is easily one of my least favorite killers to play because of how often survivors outplay me.Are you kidding? @Vietfox can show you how he has the same map pressure as billy as he stated. Right?
PS: I'm still waiting for that but I just received a bad montage of him playing survivor so, idk
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@Vietfox :
Good killer = above mid tier
Keep it that way mate, i like it when someone is that hostile. Makes me be right.
Edit: yeah, rank 20 mate, whatever makes you feel betterDude, I feel so bad that I gave you that +1 view for no reason. Its a bad montage where you (obviously) play survivors only. What should it prove? That you played against a Clown? so what?
You stated that the Clown have the same map pressure of Billy which is insanely dumb. Now I state it more clear, don't tag me again, your opinion doesn't meet the requirements to get my interest since ain't intelligent or smart but bias and dumb in my humble opinion.
Clown is good? I put it on mid tier, nothing special but can do his job but you are too stubborn to accept that and think he's op in a way or another which is a lie. Especially when you play almost survivor only so your opinion can't be taken that seriously either by me.
Still, if you are gonna try to get some views spamming these empty videos trying to proving a point by.. not proving a point with it, at least try to choose wisely and make people see more things about the topic. Good Luck with your nonsense and have fun with those videos
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@powerbats said:
@Malakir said:
altruistic said:Seeing the tears surrounding the aura nerf is quite entertaining.
Its for people like you that after the patch killers would camp way more
Would be fun see even more threads than usual about camping
This is the response every time after every PTB goes up and yet the campers still camp and the people that don't camp before don't camp afterwards.
Don't make excuses for camping when you were either already doing it or were going to anyways before the stuff was live.
It's no different when some survivors do it and say they'll just loop more or dc more, tea bag the killers more etc.
assuming I see, I like it
Too bad I never camp since it's pretty pointless at red ranks and I need to create pressure plus I play mostly survivor since its relaxing and I can do/listen other things while playing and survive. So yeah, I was just answering that guy being as toxic as him making an opposite statement but someone took it personal it seems
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Good killer isn't mid tier? Wait what?Vietfox said:
Mmh i see, u dont understand.Malakir said:
WatVietfox said:
You are just guessing mate, can you provide some real proof?Malakir said:
So now you know what I think?Vietfox said:
I don't, i play both killer and survivor, try again.Malakir said:
I'm sorry you just play 50% of the gameVietfox said:
I'm sorry you don't know how to play with the clown.Malakir said:
Yeah and today in a beautiful green sky when I played DbD I wrecked people by flying with the clown putting jack in the boxes everywhere scaring the living ######### out of peopleVietfox said:
Wrong, clown is op in the right hands, as it should be.Iceman said:What do you platform do you play on because I would like to play against you right now. Anyone who plays clown gets an average of 1-2 kills per match.
The clown is not op. It is so easy to dodge his bottles. He can still get looped.
If you played more as a killer you would know that the clown is not as bad as you think.
I just stated and mads it clearl isn't even slightly opened, he's mid tier in my tier list but nothing special
Your mind reads are pretty weak, try again
Wait what??
Please tell me what you smoke, it must be really good. I have no idea what are you talking about
The clown is mid tier due to your skills.
I'm not saying i'm good with the clown, but i've seen clowns keeping the map pressure as good as a billy.
@Blueberry has over 2K hours and despite the fact that we usually disagree he will tell you that the clown is a good killer as well.
Dude now I seriously doubt your sanity. Mid tier is the new trash tier? And now what's this Clown as equal as billy, are you okay?
That statement alone is so dumb, okay whatever dude. I really don't know what to tell you if you think one char that have a power nurse like with instadown that can make pressure over the entire map in seconds at the same level as a M1 killer with bottles to slow survivors I don't know what to tell you
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IronyIceman said:
In the right hands = very rare. I see the clown every blue moon. And I play on console.Malakir said:
Yeah and today in a beautiful green sky when I played DbD I wrecked people by flying with the clown putting jack in the boxes everywhere scaring the living ######### out of peopleVietfox said:
Wrong, clown is op in the right hands, as it should be.Iceman said:What do you platform do you play on because I would like to play against you right now. Anyone who plays clown gets an average of 1-2 kills per match.
The clown is not op. It is so easy to dodge his bottles. He can still get looped.
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WatVietfox said:
You are just guessing mate, can you provide some real proof?Malakir said:
So now you know what I think?Vietfox said:
I don't, i play both killer and survivor, try again.Malakir said:
I'm sorry you just play 50% of the gameVietfox said:
I'm sorry you don't know how to play with the clown.Malakir said:
Yeah and today in a beautiful green sky when I played DbD I wrecked people by flying with the clown putting jack in the boxes everywhere scaring the living ######### out of peopleVietfox said:
Wrong, clown is op in the right hands, as it should be.Iceman said:What do you platform do you play on because I would like to play against you right now. Anyone who plays clown gets an average of 1-2 kills per match.
The clown is not op. It is so easy to dodge his bottles. He can still get looped.
If you played more as a killer you would know that the clown is not as bad as you think.
I just stated and mads it clearl isn't even slightly opened, he's mid tier in my tier list but nothing special
Your mind reads are pretty weak, try again
Wait what??
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So now you know what I think?Vietfox said:
I don't, i play both killer and survivor, try again.Malakir said:
I'm sorry you just play 50% of the gameVietfox said:
I'm sorry you don't know how to play with the clown.Malakir said:
Yeah and today in a beautiful green sky when I played DbD I wrecked people by flying with the clown putting jack in the boxes everywhere scaring the living ######### out of peopleVietfox said:
Wrong, clown is op in the right hands, as it should be.Iceman said:What do you platform do you play on because I would like to play against you right now. Anyone who plays clown gets an average of 1-2 kills per match.
The clown is not op. It is so easy to dodge his bottles. He can still get looped.
If you played more as a killer you would know that the clown is not as bad as you think.
I just stated and made it clear isn't even slightly op, he's mid tier in my tier list but nothing special
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Its for people like you that after the patch killers would camp way morealtruistic said:Seeing the tears surrounding the aura nerf is quite entertaining.
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Okay explain. I can take this statement and replace the word killer with survivors and have the same impactNoxiousOnnyyxx said:Omg buff all killer perks because it's not like they haven't been favored enough....grow up