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@SunderMun said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/668406#Comment_668406
Thanks, I never saw this specific infographic previously. Interesting, though: it seems that blood lodge is the least of our worries compared to other maps and 40-50% survival rate isn't a bad kill ratio, imo. Top of the list needs looking at first, for definite.
The problem here is that this statistic counts all the randoms and the rank 20s so it's ######### up
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@rayoxium said:
As a Huntress main... headshots should not be in the game. Most of the shots I get are around loops and I get the headshot anyway because that's the only part of the body I can hit. It would be easier than you think to get headshots
Omg someone with a head
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@immortalls96 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/668377#Comment_668377
Hence rewarding good aim, I fail to see your point
Well we just have different opinions
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PS there are 32 maps currently in the game
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@Seanzu said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/668392#Comment_668392
Trust me, they would 100% never just randomly make insta hatchets a baseline without telling anyone, have you seen how inconsistent it it? I've seen people get hit in the toe and instantly go down.
I don't know if I should trust them.... They needed on time the hillbilly making the cooldown not as it used to be.
But I don't think they can really be this evil, so I'll just trust them for these random bugs...it happens.
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@Pizzaman said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/665520#Comment_665520
Could you please provide a link to the source that has the information about the "win rate (in percentage) for survivors on blood lodge"?
Thanks!
@SunderMun said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/665520#Comment_665520
Much as I wouldn't be shocked for this to be true, but do you actually have any sources for these 'facts?'
This is it , sent directly by @Peanits in this post : https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/519712
So this is the 8th strongest map in the game. This spread all through the ranks. Making a statistic of only rank ones could be difficult
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@Seanzu said:
This has already been gone over by @Peanits Survivors have one hitbox, it is pill shaped from head to toe. (obviously slightly larger than the survivor)
there is no headshots about it, it's anywhere, anytime whenever the server lags with a hatchet throw, they certainly aren't testing it
Of course it's not confirmed, this is just my opinion, but this could always be voluntary.
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@immortalls96 said:
It would be a cool feature to reward huntress head shots but it's not likely ever to happen
It's not really a reward man. If an Huntress learned how to always hit the head (as she perfectly does when she's looping small obstacles) she would always do one shots.
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@Freudentrauma said:
They said values aren't final and might change until PTB and change until hitting life of course. It's a normal step during development a lot of perks and values get tweaked beforehand.
That's not the point, the point is that in this way the perk is nerfed to the ground. 24 meters are nothing, especially in big maps.
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@Peanits said:
We did mention that they were subject to change. That stream was recorded weeks in advance while the perks were still being balanced.
Basically we'd erred on the side of caution. On a small map like Coal Tower or in a three gen scenario, it could be overwhelming. If it's too good, that's going to make it hard to actually review feedback on the new killer (is it because the killer's too good, or just because of the perk?). If it's not good enough, worst case scenario we buff it before the update goes live. This is what the PTB is for, after all.
This is why we typically don't reveal numbers until they are final.
I think killers will have a damn hard time using that on mount Ormond or blood lodge....
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How's about yes said by me, truetalent, zubatlel, all those people on the forums that want this game to be balanced?
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@[Deleted User] said:
This map is fine. The only map which does require a massive rework is Haddonfield.
Fine? Well, your statement doesn't stick to the facts, which state in percentages that the win rate for survivors on blood lodge is really high
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@UlvenDagoth said:
It's as bad as going against a SWF that built for Haddonfield.
Lol many put 4 OFFERING , and I mean four, to go for sure to haddonfield, put balanced landing, loop you for ages at some weird houses , and maybe they even find an infinite rng based. Gg in that case
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@Awakey said:
Wretched Shop, Gas Haven, this map, and the Ironworks all need a redo.
Ironworks is my favourite map. The infinite makes all killers but nurse rage ( of course)
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@TheRoyalOwl said:
I wouldn't say the crane's pallet is a God pallet, but yeah Blood Lodge is hot garbage.
Maybe not GOD, but super super super super unmindgamable
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@NuclearBurrito said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/663640#Comment_663640
Use discord. My username is the same as here and I'm on the DBD discord
@NuclearBurrito said:
Solution: More flashlights. Have 2 people with flashlights go in and destroy all the traps.
Or wait until the Hag isn't looking when you do it.
Or do it anyways and keep doing it until she hits you and unhook during that time.
@NuclearBurrito said:
Or just treat it like camping and do gens
@NuclearBurrito said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/663514#Comment_663514
Easiest is literally going around the Survivor before unhooking so they would have to first walk around the Survivor in order to grab you. Most of the time you take a hit but still get the Unhook off.
Then there is baiting the grab in order to force the Hag to hit you and unhook during the attack cooldown.
If you know they are doing this then you might be able to time it so the Unhook finishes immediately after they teleport but before they can grab, but that one is extremely tight. If you can pull it off then you don't even have to take a hit.
And if you use the strategy of crouching before unhooking then the Survivor is already unhooked and you can start running before the Hag knows to teleport. It only buys a second or 2 but since Hag is 110 that can often be enough time to get to a window or pallet or let you proc sprint burst if you have it.
@Locker_Monster said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/663516#Comment_663516
You're basically making up hypothetical after hypothetical because you don't want a discussion; you want to win. To be right.
It does not matter what logic or comments are given to you; you will just make up another event, and ANOTHER event, and ANOTHER event to be right.
You don't want a solution, and you don't want a discussion. You just want to keep making up hypothetical situations until people give up because you've countered everything they say. It does not matter is 90% of it won't happen in one match. It CAN happen, and that makes you right.
There's no point in discussing it with you. I mean, you said it yourself 'If all counters are removed, I'm right'. You don't care that there's counters because you will counter the counters, and then counter whatever counters people tell you after that. Because you want to be right.
@CoffengMin said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/663634#Comment_663634
i think its ok to keep insta heals as long as we keep this kind of killer addons and add some more survivor ultra rares while theyre at it, i like the variety sometimes (not moris tho) i love that some killers can just completely change their playstyle and i think survivors should have something equivalent to it
@NuclearBurrito said:
Oh yeah I almost forgot. You can unhook while the Killer is placing the traps and thus is looking straight down.
If you start the unhook when the Hag is placing the trap then she won't have time to grab you afterwards and you get proc BT and avoid MYC because she is right there.
Guys Imma answer to all your statements tomorrow. Now it's late , here in Italy it's 2:30 a.m., I need to sleep. But don't you worry. Tomorrow you WILL get answered
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@Mandy said:
@Leonardo1ita I've manually verified your account and approved your posts, so this shouldn't happen to you again.
Yes it is to prevent spam and no it won't change - sadly, we had to implement these systems after the forum was getting regularly spammed, we're talking 10/15 pages of spam at a given time. So whilst some people might not appreciate it, it's sadly a necessary evil.
Omg that's why some posts appeared and literally jumpscared me all at once lol XD
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https://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/Lisa_Sherwood@Locker_Monster said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/663412#Comment_663412
Then you spent 40+ seconds placing every trap near 1 hook. That's half the repair time of 1 generator, done solo without a toolkit.
That's 40 seconds 3 Survivors are doing gens while you scribble in the dirt.
But heaven forbid a Killer's power allow then to stop an unhooking, apparently. I had someone call me a camper recently for using my Hag power to protect a hooked Survivor, and they were too stupid to crouch or clear the trap. Repeatedly.
But it was MY FAULT they kept falling for it, according to them.
All right, folks! Pack it in! Killers are no longer allowed to use their power to secure Hooks! Just stop hooking Survivors! It's apparently OP to secure kills now!
Traps take 2 seconds to get placed, so maybe 20 seconds max. Anyway you don't need to place 10 traps, you just need 3, since a flashlight can't destroy ehm all immediately
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@Locker_Monster said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/663412#Comment_663412
Then you spent 40+ seconds placing every trap near 1 hook. That's half the repair time of 1 generator, done solo without a toolkit.
That's 40 seconds 3 Survivors are doing gens while you scribble in the dirt.
But heaven forbid a Killer's power allow then to stop an unhooking, apparently. I had someone call me a camper recently for using my Hag power to protect a hooked Survivor, and they were too stupid to crouch or clear the trap. Repeatedly.
But it was MY FAULT they kept falling for it, according to them.
All right, folks! Pack it in! Killers are no longer allowed to use their power to secure Hooks! Just stop hooking Survivors! It's apparently OP to secure kills now!
You can just place 3 traps, since the flashlight can't break them all in one shot if you put them as if they were in a triangle's vertices ∆
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@CoffengMin said:
but you dont... run into hags often... let alone that build...
Ok, but you also don't run into 4 instaheals often.... But this doesn't mean it's better for the game leaving them as they are now
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@NuclearBurrito said:
Oh yeah, also running through the traps and then going back in during the cooldown if she leaves. Since mint rag can't be spammed.
And you don't need Rusty shackles for this btw. The terror radius from the husk doesn't count.
Why should the hag go away if you popped all the traps? She would teleport to the hook, place 3 traps, and then immediately look for you around the area. You can't do that in 15 seconds, especially for the fact that she immediately teleports to the hook right when you pop all the traps.
Btw I didn't know that the terror radius from the husk doesn't count
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@LordGlint said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/663420#Comment_663420
Had a 4 man SWF recently accuse me of camping and tunneling when I put a Dream snare infront of the basement stairs and teleported back to it after an injured and asleep teammate tried rushing basement for a rescue. They DCed right after and I got to watch it from their twitch video, lol.
In this case there are counters for example. You just need to bodyblock the survivor injured, healing him into the basement (if you have time) , not getting hooked into the basement, or using borrowed time
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@brokedownpalace said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/663360#Comment_663360
You can't counter a complete killer win flashlights. They have few charges, you would have to be constantly looking at the ground for traps, every survivor would need to have one, and they are useless against traps in a chase.
That's because flashlights with the batteries can last 22 seconds. The fact is that if the hag places 3 traps in a triangular form under the hook they are useless, cuz the first trap that pops she will teleport immediately to them and
1 Wait for the rescuer to go away
2 Grab the rescuer right when he's rescuing the hooked guy.
P.s good killers don't fall for the old bait trick at hook
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@MrsPiggyIsSoSneaky said:
So lets just weaken a killer that is already weak as it is? ok
The hag weak? Really? Oh you're gonna have a really tough time trying to convince all hag mains
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/663534#Comment_663534
My point is that you're contradicting yourself.
If a Hag is picking up a survivor, you can blow up all of her traps if she's trapping an area or unhook a survivor basically unopposed. Her teleport also has a 15 second cooldown, so if you see her teleport away, you can run over those traps and waste them as well. If she's being super campy in an area, then push generators, just like you do when a killer normally camps.
There's a lot of options. Sometimes you don't always get to save the survivor on the hook. Don't play into the Hag's strength of her map defense and then complain that "there's no counter" to it. Play against her weaknesses instead.
@Shad03 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/663575#Comment_663575
Not until you're dead it's not.
The hag in this situation to win has to be sure the guy on the hook gets killed and patrol the gens in the same way.
When you've placed a minimum of 3 traps under the hook ( it takes 6 seconds) you can go wherever you want, patrol gens, maybe pop one of them with pop goes the weasel, injure and prevent them from doing them, and at the same time basically camp the hook. If they rescue the survivor, you're gonna down them both. Popping all traps it's just a waste of time for them , since you need only 6 seconds to replace them all
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@Shad03 said:
Non-Issue.
Using up 2 add on slots and a perk slot, while also on a 15 second cooldown to using your power if you somehow accidentally use it too soon.
I understand it can be frustrating, but nerfing it to the ground will just summon more Nurses, Billys, and Spirits. This game needs both sides to continue playing, and blatant unneeded nerfs are not the solution. Both sides have to face against things they don'twant to, it's not bad design, it's people not liking to have a challenge.
In fact in this case there isn't a challenge. The challenge is already lost
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/663374#Comment_663374
So there's zero counter unless you have this thing that counters the thing that has "no counter".
Okay.
Because only after I realised the solution was placing more traps (and this only if survivors have a flashlight)
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@Hoodied said:
Oh whats this?
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/865/89Z13PGABZQR.png
Oh its hags counter no matter what
You just need 3 traps placed in a triangle to prevent the flashlight from destroying all the traps in one shot. So one traps survives, you teleport to that trap,and then you're (again) face to face with the rescuer
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@Locker_Monster said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/663472#Comment_663472
You're literally just going to keep making up counters to any suggestion made. It's not possible to discuss with someone who just want to push and push and push to be right instead of accepting opposing viewpoints.
The point was that this build is unfair for the survivor hooked, so if all counters to this build are gone, I'm just right
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@NuclearBurrito said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/663472#Comment_663472
There are ways around that. Sometimes literally.
So tell me one of them
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@Marcus said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/663442#Comment_663442
If you keep replacing your traps, the gens are gonna get down.
Ok, but you keep another survivor there doing nothing. And replacing just 3 traps takes only 6 seconds
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@NuclearBurrito said:
Trip the trap and wait for the Hag to teleport. Then unhook with borrowed time.
Or better yet, unhook from the side to avoid tripping the trap immediately. Yes you can still teleport to it but this way we get a head start and can avoid a free hit.
This strategy doesn't work. The hag teleports and you are now face to face with her. If you try to unhook she will just grab you
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@Marcus said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/663412#Comment_663412
If she uses all her traps at hooks, then her counter is simply : loop her. Seriously, how do you get downed by a 110% speed killer who doesn't use her power to actually down you. Her traps are anyway more unreliable in chases with Mint Rag then without it. If she places multiple traps, you can also just switch the place with the person on the hook, while the other 2 survivors do gens.
- The only tough part is downing the first survivor. You can always use your traps, and if when you hooked a survivor you already placed a lot of them, just replace them all if you think they can have a flashlight, and make so that all traps placed while chasing disappear. Placing traps takes 2 seconds, so it's a maximum of 20 seconds.
- Skilled killers won't allow you to rescue another survivor without getting grabbed in this case.
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@Speshul_Kitten said:
Here are some of many counters:
gen rush
Use Urban Evasion
use DS
use Unbreakable
use a flashlight to get rid of traps
Oh yeah, loop.
@Locker_Monster said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/663374#Comment_663374
You can lobby dodge ANY tool that would counter your Killer loadout. Not just as Hag.
Two; it's still counter-able. EASILY counter-able.
I'm just tired of seeing '<x> is somewhat good as a Killer. Better remove/nerf it!' on these forums. It seems to be a theme that if something can kill more than 1 Survivor every 5 games, someone somewhere will want it changed/removed/nerfed.
@YaiPa said:
Gen rush, destroy the traps with a flashlight, run, pop the trap and wait for it to disappear, then save. 3 counters.
@immortalls96 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/663380#Comment_663380
Flashlight man..its a gamble sure but they spawn quite regularly , plus if the hag is waiting for this she loses , so theres that, not to mention shes losing both her very rare addons and a perk which is on a minute cooldown for this , wont work consistantly at all
@justarandy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/663360#Comment_663360
Hag sees multiple flashlights. Hag dodges lobby.
@Locker_Monster said:
So using two add-ons plus a perk is..unfair? So using synergies is unfair now? Come on, guys.
@ShyN3ko said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/663374#Comment_663374
How do you counter Ultra Rare insta heals?
With a perk.
Does you use this perk all the time?
But I cant find a perk in a chest.
Survivor can find a flashlight in a chest.
@ShyN3ko said:
Flashlight...........
And its a ULTRA RARE.
You can counter a complete killer with ultra rare addon.
With a good dam FLASHLIGHT.
How unfair is it?
Oh, you have power from the entity.
The god of evil.
The most powerful creature.
Here is a flashlight,sir.
And yes I hate the flashlight mechanic.
Alright then, you all say that flashlights completely counter this build...what if I state they actually don't? This is true.
You just need to set all your traps near the hook, and once you hear the survivor destroying just 1 of them, just teleport to the hook.
And now what? You are face to face with the rescuer, who can NOT try to rescue if he doesn't want to get grabbed. And this only if they have a flashlight
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@ShyN3ko said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/663374#Comment_663374
How do you counter Ultra Rare insta heals?
With a perk.
Does you use this perk all the time?
But I cant find a perk in a chest.
Survivor can find a flashlight in a chest.
You don't counter rescuers with instaheals using Franklin's demise
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@immortalls96 said:
Yeah I'm sorry but while I see your point this argument is..a tad hollow..
Why is this empty? I mean, even against a nurse with omegablinks there's some kind of mindgame during chases, but here it doesn't exist. You just press LCTRL and it's done
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@Locker_Monster said:
So using two add-ons plus a perk is..unfair? So using synergies is unfair now? Come on, guys.
(Comment cancelled)
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@Speshul_Kitten said:
Here are some of many counters:
gen rush
Use Urban Evasion
use DS
use Unbreakable
use a flashlight to get rid of traps
Oh yeah, loop.
Gen rush doesn't prevent the hooked guy to get killed, urban evasion is useless against mint rag (teleport to the trap whenever you want, WHEREVER YOU WANT), for ds you just slug the rescued survivor, the suspect of unbreakable is another reason just to stay there to patrol them both and just hook the rescuer, flashlights don't always spown in chests, neither in all matches
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@Richter_Cade said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/658634#Comment_658634
But nobody made that claim, that's the point. He said Tofu helped teach him something, that in no way implies that Tofu is the best, better than anybody else or even that what he learned was correct. That's all crap you've imagined it means but think about it, really. Where has anybody here said Tofu is the best?
These people just like to search everything possible to attack and flame the op. It's an usual in every forum.
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@Johnny_XMan said:
I mean there is truth in what you’re saying.
Some people (Either side) blame the game for not doing well, but never ask themselves if it was just them doing “bad”.
It’s easy to just same something is broken and put the blame on that... instead of just getting better. Which is why I disagree with many posts of players claiming something is broken.
Also, I like Tofu but I find that saying the game is perfectly balanced is a bit of a stretch. It’s not balanced because it shouldn’t be and it won’t. There are always going to be areas whether small or big that are probably unintentionally more powerful than others.
Which IMO is absolutely fine... not everything needs to be balanced perfectly to have fun.
He didn't say it is perfectly balanced, he said it is not insanely broken as people think. In some situations (omegablinks) it can be broken
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/658529#Comment_658529
Except the power is actually in the survivors hands how long (or short) a chase is. As survivors get more competent, it’s not hard for them to realise that there is a fairly astonishing amount of ways for them to either extend chases, create distance, or both. A good killer will always be outshined by good survivors. There’s just far too many ways for them to avoid a hit or avoid being downed once they know what they’re doing, completely mitigating any risk of the killer finding them. Being found doesn’t matter, because the worst they’ll experience is getting injured (if it’s not a one hit down)
killers have to play using all their possibilities (moris) to kill survivors with meta perks. As well as being efficient to apply an Optimal map pressure.
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@FishFry247 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/658608#Comment_658608
Happy I'm not the only one who thinks whispers is kinda bad, A lot of people acts like it adds so much game sense lol
Yeah Whispers is stupid
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@Galklife said:
@LordGlint yup, a lot of killers dont know how map pressure works, why survivors bodyblocking in most cases is good for killer, and many many things (and this is what is sad) killers have way more depth ingame, but ppl are too lazy to look for that
This is what I what I mean
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@immortalls96 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/658539#Comment_658539
"Tofu opened my eyes"? Implying he sees this game better than you or anyone else..so yes you did say it..just not directly..you can have your opinion, as I am allowed to challange it with my own point of view
Of course we can have different opinions
Also the thread is an opinion
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@immortalls96 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/658529#Comment_658529
Yet tofu one by one talks about the removal of mechanics that make that possible..he does not speak for everyone and it's a tad presumptuous to make a thread saying "tofu is right on everything and nobody else can be right if it's against him" tofu is no less human than anyone and just as prone to being incorrect as any of us
I didn't say this. If you state something, you need to demonstrate it
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@immortalls96 said:
Tofu is..an odd case..I'm sorry but hes not correct in all he says
Well I think he's right. This because most times you just need to end chases fast, that's the crucial point of the game.
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@grtf47 said:
I don't think any killers need a buff. Billy needs a small nerf. Maybe a chainsaw cool down extension.
Omg please stop saying nerf billy. Just get good and avoid getting sniped from the distance
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@Rizzo said:
When you have a doubt, consult this:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/19450/game-rules-and-report-system#latest
Sandbagging is not bannable, just like being bad is not bannable.
The issue comes when someone actively tries to snipe over and over again to ruin someone's experience in multiple games. That counts as targeting and griefing.
Ok this is bannable, but let's suppose that you griefed in another way, and every match you waited just to meet as killer the streamer to chase and mori him, knowing his position. Would this be bannable? I mean, this could just be sniping, so not bannable. You know, unfortunately I found you as killer and now since I hate streamers Imma mori you.
No harrass, no griefing, just casually moring a streamer, coincidentally done multiple times
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@Decarcassor said:
So what about when the gates spawn far away from each other on a large map against a killer with no mobility ? Thats a very easy escape for a survivor who's team failed at everything else before.
This is true too
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@JordanMalicious said:
Can't quote the OP without approval? Wth is that?
Wut?