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@ItzPixelYT said:
I'm sure they said switch was meant to come out the end of Q1 2021 which was April and we're still waiting. Not sure if it's on their end of things or licensing but they need to pull their finger out or explain why it's taking so long.
That's never been the way BHVR has operated.
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@ClumsyTrapper said:
Wraith should have been this way on release, he's finally where he should be.
I'd argue he needs even MORE buffs.
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@C3Tooth said:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/UY2HM3I5E2DH/image.png
This squad disagree with the topic. This was old OoO.
Bro you got bodied LOL. I know that game war toxic.
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Bring back? I've never seen a blue legacy or even green.
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@Doziano said:
To be honest map offerings, in general, should be reworked. To be sure that you know what map you're going gives an extreme advantage to whatever side has burned the offering. Imo BHVR should change it so MO reduces the chances of being sent to a specific realm instead of just letting you choose were you're going to play.
Other than that, yeah Haddonfield really needs a rework. It's so annoying that I just alt+f4 the game whenever I see that the survivor team has burned that offering.
I don't do that because I don't want the penalty. To be fair, I don't even get upset anymore. I just play through it. It's such a horrible map!
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This map should get an entire rework. I don't know any killer player that has liked this map.
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Ok now can we actually ADDRESS WHY RUIN IS IN PLAY MOST OF THE TIME now?
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@FrndlyChnswSalzmn said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2248344#Comment_2248344
Spirit - Can't comment, don't play her because I hate being blinded and guessing.
Nurse - She does not. She doesn't ignore spatial awareness and learning to actually break LOS, use stealth and juke. What you mean is she negates the one skill that is most commonly had and honed by Survivors.
Old Freddy - pre-slowdown nerf Freddy was...eh. I guess. I don't care anymore, all the fun's been sucked out of him anyway. So sure.
Hag - I can't even take you seriously anymore. No setup Killer should be anywhere near a list of overpowered Killers.
Huntress - And if the hitboxes were any smaller nobody would ever get hit.
Deathslinger - One of the few Killers where the skill of the Killer player matters more than whether or not the Survivor made a mistake. Of course Survivors hate him; we established that they like being in control with their herd mentality.
Clown - Whatever. Not even taking you seriously anymore.
Trapper - HAHAHAHA! Are you kidding?! TRAPPER?!
I have to agree with everything you said here. As far as spirit, SHE GUESSES ALSO. She often uses a perk to COUNTER another notoriously annoying survivor perk... Stridor =/= Iron Will.
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@BuddhaBing said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2242114#Comment_2242114
I don't think they always are. Didn't DS and OoO just get nerfed? Didn't toolboxes get nerfed? Insta-heals?
And didn't Blight and Wraith just get buffed?
I'm thinking you have a bit of perception bias going on here.
It took FOREVER for them to properly get nerfed and it's debatable as to whether the OoO "nerf" is even hard enough. KILLERS and their perks get nerfed... "RIGHT" one time. Look at Freddy... Again. Look at Nurse, look at Billy, look at Undying, and so on.
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@ill_Boston_lli said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2225507#Comment_2225507
100% I don't get it. Just because she has an AMAZING 1v1 and good map presence DOES NOT make her unbeatable. sure being beat in a chase fairly quickly is annoying and unfun BUT that's one of 3 I've had many chases against good spirits where it wasted just enough time for her to lose. I've come to accept that you really cant last very long in a chase against her and found ways to waste her time out of chase, You need to mess with her a lot and mislead her!!! People STOP drinking the Kool aid and instead of saying nerf her try other things, Switch it up!! I'm happy there are killers in the game where the survivors have to switch up traditional style of play and figure out a new way to escape
They don't want to do that because the devs have caved to every demand they've made.
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Hag doesn't need to be nerfed. We've had enough nerfs. She doesn't over perform and she doesn't have an insane pick rate/kill rate. She's fine.
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@BuddhaBing said:
I think keys are just harder to balance than the moris were. Moris are offerings so they don't really have much competition for gameplay effectiveness, most of the other offerings aren't really helpful or don't affect gameplay. It's okay if they ends up being underpowered and just for fun. Since they don't have much competition, it's hard to nerf them to the point of being unusable.
Keys are an item which has to compete with toolboxes, medkits, flashlights, etc. A strong nerf to keys would likely result in people not running them at all. It's a more delicate procedure to nerf them while keeping then useable than it was with moris.
How come survivor items and Shenanigans are always harder to nerf when it's bothering killers?
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@TheClownIsKing said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2234330#Comment_2234330
And they’re still 4k’ing.
Who knew....
Hag is fine... 🤷🏿♀️
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@odra said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2234317#Comment_2234317
lol whatever you say. you need to prove that spirit doesnt need nerf while majority player said she need nerf
Mostly survivors who refused to adapt say that.
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@gatsby said:
Since Hag has been released, mechanics to prevent camping with a Killer's Power (i.e. Pyramid Head's dissolving trails near gens, gates and hooks) and power use cooldowns (Spirit, Blight, Pyramid Head, Legion, Twins etc.)
Maybe Hag should get updated a little bit?
Nooooooo! If they touch her, it's DEFINITELY going to be a nerf in there. We've seen what they did to Nurse, then Billy, then Freddy and I can't take it no more.
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I dropped Billy entirely to go back to Spirit & Nurse. I also picked up Wraith since Freddy got gutted... Again. Don't blame me for the way I play in games. 🙃
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@odra said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2233226#Comment_2233226
what it is ? you said spirit didnt neeed nerf suddenly it became wraith.
wraith in good position now
Spirit doesn't need a nerf and NEITHER DOES WRAITH.
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@odra said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2225507#Comment_2225507
lol what an argument, every killers can be defeated by doing gens. whats your point ?
The point is, the game is still in the survivors hands. Wraith just isn't brain dead loopable anymore. He has the mobility to actually build pressure now.
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Just stop it man that's not true. They camped because they're toxic, or a troll, or had a bad game previously. Your orientation is not that serious. This has been going on since the inception of this game.
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@odra said:
well with forever freddy gone only the spirit that need to be nerfed. wraith still in good position for me
I like to play with him and against him.
She doesn't need to be NERFED because she can still be destroyed by you just DOING THE GENS.
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@Dennis_van_eijk said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2214327#Comment_2214327
They better not touch my bing bong boi 😡
Unless they are gonna buff him more 😬😜
But seriously, this is how it always goes and will keep going.
BHVR create a strong killer.
Survivors: 😭😭😭😫😫😫 this killer is to strong and not fun, please nerf.
BHVR buffs a killer where that killer becomes more of a treat and where you need to respect their powers.
Survivors: 😭😭😭😫😫😫 this killer isn't fun anymore, he's to strong now. Please nerf.
The vicious circle of dbd, bhvr create/buff a killer > survivors cry about that killer > bhvr nerf that killer.
And after that the process just repeats itself with new and the same killer over and over again.
It's a known fact that survivors can consistently beat every Killer EXCEPT Nurse by just doing the gens. What is the uproar about? Wraith can still only chase 1 survivor at a time.
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@TreMonkeys said:
Wraith wasn't even changed that much
He's just not brain dead loopable anymore and they're losing their minds. With all this crying, I expect Wraith to be NERFED next year. I know it.
Look at Billy and look at Freddy... AGAIN!
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@GeneralV said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2213945#Comment_2213945
You can still use Nancy's Masterpiece or Red Paint Brush, but most of his add-ons are useless.
Or... I can use a killer that's more fun to play... Like Nurse & Wraith (until he's nerfed.)
I'm going to get more serious about Spirit too. I like feeling like I'm controlling the match vs waiting on a mistake.
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Survivors hate every Killer that has control over the chase. (Nurse, Spirit, Slinger, etc)
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@nursewannabe said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2102726#Comment_2102726
? I had 6 Freddies on Saturday
It'll fall off just like Billy did. It's basically best to just use him without add-on at this point. I'd rather just play Nurse or Wraith.
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@nursewannabe said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2210719#Comment_2210719
Ruin is the strongest regression perk in the game, and you forgot to mention tinkerer, probably because it's free information + stealth for killers while they're failing at pressuring gens
How good is Tinkerer alone again? How good is ruin without Undying? I don't even use these perks because they're bad. Ruin is gone the first 30 secs.
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@Shirokinukatsukami said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2199126#Comment_2199126
Literally every other match I play these days is Wraith.
Maybe it's an Asian thing and people in NA don't know how to use Wraith, but I doubt it. More likely you don't play survivor enough to even know how the meta has shifted to Wraith.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2200342#Comment_2200342
Why do people who obviously don't even play against Wraith feel like they need to keep talking? You obviously haven't played against current Wraith enough if you really think that. He is ridiculously powerful in chase right now.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2201165#Comment_2201165
Has nothing to do with being free.
You obviously don't play Survivor enough to notice. Wraith is literally everywhere these days 50% of all my survivor games are Wraith, and they all run the same build with Swift Hunt and Windstorm. It is ridiculously strong in chase. This is not a matter of newbs using a killer just because he's free. Usually Trapper has that honor by the way.
These are experienced killers who know what they are doing (I am a Red Rank survivor) and they all choose to use Wraith with a very specific build and he is really strong right now.
Wraith is fine. Use your eyes and get off that gen one second earlier. Wraith is easily smashed If survivors choose to do gens.
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@supersonic853 said:
Can we talk about the crutch killer build? Corrupt, ruin,pop,tinkerer/bbq. When it works it stalls the game with corrupt. Then you have 2 gen regression perks which ones guaranteed to get value. In a match were this works the killer gets so much leeway the survivors cant come back from. Then throw it on a good killer that already operates fine like blight nurse or spirit its very overkill. Point is both sides have bs perks and builds that need and wil eventually be addressed its not just one side.
Every perk you mentioned has some kind of requirement that prevents it from being a serving chance.
Corrupt.. I'll give you this one.
Ruin... Nerfed and unreliable totem spawns render it useless early.
PGTW... You have to hook someone. Not an easy task at high ranks.
Tink/BBQ... Useless on it's own/requires a hook. Has like 7 counters.
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@[Deleted User] said:
Just more useless stats without context for people to speculate on, yay.
BHVR should honestly stop releasing those, it's clear that the most important data is kept hidden from us (and I understand why), so these type of stats accomplish nothing but arguements in the community.
Yes because have you noticed when killer nerfs are involved, it always involves THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF PLAY.
Nurse has a very low kill rate and a significantly lower pick rate everywhere rank wide. Only at the highest level of play, is nurse most lethal and she was nerfed for it.
Same with Billy... Same with Freddy (his kills were inflated), etc.
Ruin was NERFED because "80% of red ranks use it", but the reason why wasn't even brought into the discussion.
DS should've been treated the same because you don't usually see it at lower ranks.
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He's still JUST an M1 KILLER that continuously gives you a warning he's near with the bell. If anything, he needs to be buffed EVEN MORE. Survivors can EASILY smash him... IF THEY WANTED TO!
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@Pulsar said:
I...actually don't think this is a bad idea.
This would help.
Maybe do a community poll of issues we'd like to be addressed every PTB, that way they can test wacky solutions in the next and see what works and what doesn't
Bad idea. Survivor mains will continuously suggest killer nerfs.
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Spirit is perfectly fine. Accept you won't troll EVERY KILLER and move on man. Spirit & Nurse is all we have left.
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Wraith is STILL A M1 KILLER! I'd argue he needs to be buffed even more. Those survivors were just bad.
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Ironic, they fix a bug that HELPS her but leave all the bugs that DESTROY her lol.
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I dropped him the very moment they mentioned changes. I knew it wasn't going to be good.
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@Northener1907 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2161795#Comment_2161795
I do not think those add-ons will stay like this. Because they are really not good. I am sure Freddy will get new changes in future. I can understand nerfs but i dont know why they changed him add-ons to useless. And Black Box can be useful only in end game for 15 seconds. So you will use one ultra rare add-on and you can use only in end game. And just 15 seconds. That is not effective, actually this is nothing.
You must be new around here? See Billy & Nurse lol.
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@Mert_MK said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2131289#Comment_2131289
Sure thing
Show us how you counter a killer who knows what they're doing and is using this fair and balanced combo then.
Also i'd be okay with that, Nurse is fun to vs imo
After being butchered? Sure, I guess.
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She's fine. Without her, all you'd get is Nurse at red ranks.
Just don't be predictable.
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Home Sweet Home Survive
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@Lord_Tony said:
all killers need to be buffed because of SWF
unfortunately this game balances ######### for solos not SWF
Green rank solo at that lol
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@Clevite said:
I can't stand Smurfs.
I know, they will say, "We haven't played in a while."
So, they needed a full meta load out expecting to face a newer killer. This is why I can't wait for the MMR. It can be worse than people purposely doing this.
And it'll actually show killers like Freddy aren't truly threatening at R1
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@Yords said:
If it makes you feel any better, DBD is not going away for a good while. The game is the only one of its kind that is successful. There is no other game that is as good as DBD, even if the next patch is bad I guarantee you that people would still play this game. People have a hard time leaving this game, very few do.
HSHS is ok so far. Missing features, but looks promising
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@Baby_Victor said:
My theory is they shadow nerf but...if it’s noticed and enough people complain or their “data” says it didn’t have the result they were fishing for...then they can call it a bug and “fix” it. Otherwise...the “bug” falls into BHVR list of “when we get to it” fixes and they continue to ignore it until the community stops caring and the shadownerf stays permanently~
You have a good point there
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Spirit is fine. You don't NEED to know EVERYTHING the killer is doing. You both flip and coin and the winner comes out on top. Stop trying to exploit your smaller hitbox against objects and you'll be fine.
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@Alice_pbg said:
jill and nemesis
And I suspect he'll be rather underwhelming or NERFED two weeks after release. I won't buy...
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@IWasLeft2Die said:
I think he got overly nerfed. The fact that almost everything about him got nerfed was overkill (even things he wasn't very good with already like pallets). If the ptb goes into the main game he is going to be in the bottom 5 killers imo.
It will go to the main game. They've already invested way too many resources not to go through with it. I've already dropped him. This is why I haven't spent any money in ages. I'm missing like 8 killers at this point lol.
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Removing the ability to teleport is a huge nerf. I like these ideas tho minus removing teleport. Nothing is worth that tradeoff.
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Yet another killer that won't be played anymore
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And Freddy is gutted. I told you guys. SBMM would've prevented this, but this current system won't stop until No killer can truly stop SWF.
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@BeardedScrub said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2100065#Comment_2100065
Nope. You are completely wrong.
Freddy destroys 99% of the playerbase. He destroys solo q, which is a high high percentage of the people playing. Once again, like Scott said, the devs already know that Freddy and all killers get destroyed at the highest 1% of the game.
But they aren't going to cater to the game to the highest killers playing swf. Nor should they. Most killers will face solo q survivors anyway. They need to cater to the largest player base they can. Freddy needs to be nerfed. But that doesn't mean that they don't need to address the core problem of killers not competing against high quality survivors. But that's a separate issue
So of we nerf spirit & Nurse how people want them nerfed... Like Billy, what killer can actually threaten top tier survivors? Spirit & Nurse are the only 2 left that control the chase. Without them, what killers win a tournament? What killers stop even a 2 man ELITE SWF? Come on. We need potatoes out of these ranks.
Freddy doesn't destroy 99% of nothing. The kill rates are inflated to Mars because potatoes & hook suicide. If he was so powerful, he'd be viable comp level. He's not for good reason!