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  • @Khalednazari said:
    Seems like I need to create more math questions for Dead By Daylight now. 

    Maths with Orion, every Friday at 11:00am GMT

  • @Orion said:

    @Killigma said:
    Where were you while I was studying Physics at high school Orion!

    Probably learning physics myself.

    Not good enough, I now shift my lacking grade across onto you and from hence-forth it is your fault.

  • Where were you while I was studying Physics at high school Orion!

  • So instead of learning to counter a Killer, you would rather just pull up your covers and avoid the issue. The term "just get good" has never been so fitting.

  • This has to be the easiest bait post I have ever seen...and it worked...

  • Stop trying to justify toxic behaviour by labelling it as some kind of way Survivors want to interact with the Killer for "fun." You are being toxic, just stop.

  • @Nero said:
    Nurse needs a huge nerf or a rework though, hillbilly might need some small nerfs because if you compare his skillcap to the nurse and his rewards for it, its too low of a skillcap and reward is too high

    Nerf the two most viable Killers?

  • Any new players viewing this thread, this is the community guys, welcome aboard.

  • @TheMidnightRidr said:
    There is so much toxicity in the DBD community.

    That is why I am here

  • This is not a "punishment." It is an oversight at most. You are not being punished for ranking up as you make out, you just are not rewarded anymore or less than previously. The whole level thing is half baked at best, no real reward but a small number under the emblem and maybe some bragging rights?

  • @Boss said:
    I'm not gonna try again, this discussion's a huge clusterfuck now.

    Any discussion which has even a little substance to it while turn into a 4 or 5 page argument session between at least 3 different people, usually all arguing about different things but at one another. Unless you come here to meme, just do not try.

  • @Chi said:

    @MhhBurgers said:

    @Chi said:
    DS is OP, and this comes from someone mainly playing survivor. One DS can literally stand in the way of a killer winning the game or losing.

    NOED is the same. A killer can go from a definite 0k to a 4k.

    Both perks suck in my opinion. You can't counter both of them effectively. You can't just open an exit gate and leave most of the time with NOED, you can also not just 'deal' with the stun from DS a lot of times, without it ruining your game.

    NOED can be broken before it even gets activated so I don't have a clue how you would not call that a counter, most survivors know the totem placements and it's not like they're hidden.

    How many killers actually run NOED? How is it fair that survivors have to prepare for a perk every single game, regardless of whether the killer is using it or not?

    Prepare? By doing what? Cleansing a totum while moving around the map? No skillcheck or sabo perks neede? You are not having to prepare for anything out of what you would normally be doing on a map. NOED is not the equivalent to DS. NOED can be shut down within the first few minutes of a game, DS...will not be shut down until the Survivor uses it.

  • I honestly see no issue with this, perfectly balanced and this will solve all major issues in this game, good job so far OP.

    1. Killer is not "forcing" them to do anything. If he slugs the Survivor, go hatch hunting and wait for them to bleed out.
      1. It is a very common strategy to slug the second last person to avoid a hatch escape. If the second Survivor chooses to show the last Survivors location, that is up to that Survivor.
  • I actually hate myself for reading through this whole topic on basic math.

  • The community wont be the same without you casual random. RIP champ, gone but not forgotten.
  • @TheDarkLycan said:
    if DS is an issue to anykiller just bring unnerving presence or enduring. problem solved

    Honestly it is not, the stun is not the issue. It is the free self save that makes DC a issue. Break it down, if DS only stunned the killer, no one would care most likely. The perk lets the Survivor just hop of the Killers shoulder...that is a problem.

  • @jwentzel987 said:
    Most will actually block the hook altogether as to make sure a survivor can't even attempt an unhook.

    What patch is this? Save blocks or real "face camping" was patched out long ago.

  • @Warfish70 said:
    So in my opinion the game is getting off balanced. As a survivor it isn't much fun anymore as (in my opinion) it has been made way too easy for killers.

    Aint fun for Survivors now lads, just roll back the patch.

  • @kandalph said:

    @Killigma said:

    @kandalph said:

    @Killigma said:
    Being a baby about people being babies #logic.
    Forums are created for people to share opinions and related topics. If they wanna cry, what is it to you.

    now this is the most disabled comment yet

    im not crying about crying, im compaining people who do cry in these forums and "debunking" (could've thought a better word) the topics they cry about, many posts here i don't agree with are not crying, so in your mind with what logic am i crying just because you don't agree with me

    You are debunking nothing lol. You are stating your opinion on DS, nothing you said is fact, get a grip. Also, no that is not a correct logic. It is an assumption you have quickly came to without even asking my opinion, a wrong one at that. I have no issue with DS, there are bigger issues in this game that DS, although I do not agree with the free self save it gives, it is a splash in the ocean of DBD.

    yes i know it's not debunking i said that in the comment, but it was the word that came to mind, and i respect thy opinion even though i disagree with it, and the things i said is my opinion and many others not everyone but many. and your own opinions are your facts until proven wrong

    (typo edit)

    See, you obviously do not respect peoples opinion because if they voice it, you say they are babies and feel you should spew out your wisedom of what is right and wrong. A personal opinion is not "fact." Facts cannot be proven wrong, opinions can, "with that logic" you opinion is already incorrect if it is not based on fact.

  • @kandalph said:

    @Killigma said:
    Being a baby about people being babies #logic.
    Forums are created for people to share opinions and related topics. If they wanna cry, what is it to you.

    now this is the most disabled comment yet

    im not crying about crying, im compaining people who do cry in these forums and "debunking" (could've thought a better word) the topics they cry about, many posts here i don't agree with are not crying, so in your mind with what logic am i crying just because you don't agree with me

    You are debunking nothing lol. You are stating your opinion on DS, nothing you said is fact, get a grip. Also, no that is not a correct logic. It is an assumption you have quickly came to without even asking my opinion, a wrong one at that. I have no issue with DS, there are bigger issues in this game that DS, although I do not agree with the free self save it gives, it is a splash in the ocean of DBD.

  • Being a baby about people being babies #logic.
    Forums are created for people to share opinions and related topics. If they wanna cry, what is it to you.

  • And now you are warning them. Great job 
    Well look at it this way baby aggie, instead of us getting a good laugh at the hardcore clickers, we might even get a Survivor with more than half a brain.
  • Killigma said:
    A killer that actually beats Survivors...quick OP #nurfpluz!!
    Freddy OP... wahllhax be bannable!
    Nurf now! Literally unplayable!!
  • A killer that actually beats Survivors...quick OP #nurfpluz!!
  • MattRiles said:

    Killer (Billy): Whispers, Brutal Strength, Enduring, BBQ

    May i ask why brutal strength on billy? Purely for kicking gens? 
  • Rank 14 games lul #nurfnerse
  • Never going to happen, in order for a Killer to be feared, they would need to be "OP" so Survivors will ask for nerfs.

  • BHVR wont tell us what Killers are being developed until a few weeks before the actually release.

  • I am fully agree with OP. The whole point of a PTB is to test changes in a live setting. We already know that the "test team" they have is not a group that speak for the majority of players. BHVR has a mass market of free testers and although we do have bias opinions based on the roles we play, who better to actually tell you if something's good enough, than the people who play your game on a consistent bases. Players from casual to vet, rank 20-1. The PTB is basically a pointless exercise if things such as the DS change and the Spirit PTB feedback are not even going to be taken on board.

  • @BigBang said:
    not pro player with around 120h playing

    You can go ahead and close this thread, we have found the issue.

  • The whole "mains" situation is simply put down to us vs them. The way patches are built around one side more than another, toxic behaviour on both sides and everyone thinking that their suggestion is the golden answer to balancing this game just fills this toxic behaviour in the community and how we act towards each other. Whether the devs mean to or not, they are partly to blame for the toxic behaviour and the feeling that its us vs them. Killers feel they are being forgotten about so in turn hate Survivors, and Survivors feel that Killers are getting to much OP changes, again, resulting in hatred towards Killers. Although I do hate how split this community is, in reality you cannot really blame a majority for how they feel.

  • @Dudddd said:
    Killigma said:

    @George_Soros said:

    There are multiple ways to counter both of these.

    What exactly is the counter to DS?

    Enduring , unerving presence, noed, rancore, mori, 

    Enduring does not count, the stun is not the issue, it is the free self safe Survivors get.
    Unnerving presence is maybe a counter at low ranks, any Survivor worth there salt can hit a UP skill check.
    Noed and Rancore....these are not counters to DS lol?
    Mori, so Killers will have to burn an add on every match to combat 3/4 DS every game, yeah sure.

  • @George_Soros said:
    There are multiple ways to counter both of these.

    What exactly is the counter to DS?

  • @TheShowtime7 said:
    You act like everyone uses DS, if I’m using it I’m usually the only player that’s using it in the game. 

    Also you killers keep complaining about survivor perks then eventually you won’t have anyone to play with. Takes four survivors to play a game and only one killer. Just saying 

    I think you'll find you need Killers more than we need you, Killers host the lobby, so without us YOU would not be able to play at all :)

  • @N3X said:

    @Killigma said:

    @N3X said:

    @Killigma said:
    I can tell you know that you have either misunderstood the Devs comment or are trolling. Saving any save game files with other players is against ToS and will result in a ban if caught. End of.

    What you can missunderstood on the Twitter post? Dave say it with his own words. "You can try, no bans"
    So no i dont missunderstood it.

    I am yet to see any proof that this was said, so up until this proof is given you are making this up. It has been stated more than this one time you claim that it is not allowed.

    If you would read the Post´s you allready would read it. But for you, here are the proof again just click on the Twitter post ;)

    Apologise, I never seen the link.
    If you read the twitter post properly, you will see he says nope to the persons question whether they are able to swap files or not. You have misunderstood the post. And even IF, this was him saying you are allowed to do it, the rules have changed. Two years ago, possibly this was allowed, but that does not matter because NOW it is bannable, that is all that matters.

  • @N3X said:

    @Killigma said:
    I can tell you know that you have either misunderstood the Devs comment or are trolling. Saving any save game files with other players is against ToS and will result in a ban if caught. End of.

    What you can missunderstood on the Twitter post? Dave say it with his own words. "You can try, no bans"
    So no i dont missunderstood it.

    I am yet to see any proof that this was said, so up until this proof is given you are making this up. It has been stated more than this one time you claim that it is not allowed.

  • I can tell you know that you have either misunderstood the Devs comment or are trolling. Saving any save game files with other players is against ToS and will result in a ban if caught. End of.

  • Just when you think you have seen it all lads...
  • You are never entitled to DC. Sure it sucks but it is not the Killers or the remaining Survivors faults. Most if the time the Killer will just farm with you, so just stay. If he farms great you all get BP. If he just wants the game to end, great on to the next one.
  • @Killigma said:
    How about none? You are one of the major issues this community has. Play the damn game, if you draw a bad map, then suck it up. Even maps like haddonfield, although are a nightmare for Killers, still does not justify DC'n. 

    Uh yeah what's the point of "Playing" when all of said playing is basically getting stealthed AND looped while having no clearcut routes? If enough killers did this then the devs would have to react and finally fix that map, "sucking up" to bad design is not something we as players should do. Esp since there's absolutely no maps that are bad for survivors.

    You can still at least 2k on that map, not every game has to be a 4k. Agreed the map does need fixed but that is still no excuse for DC'n. Again, agreed we players should not have to settle for sucking it up but players should not settle for you DC'n just because you wanted an easier map.
  • popoles said:
    Why is everyone saying it was a nerf? It was a redesign of hitboxes that had bugs in it.
    It was originally a redesign but the way it was released was completely different than intended, making Huntress that bad it came across as a nerf. This was before we were actually informed the Devs had ######### up and were looking into it.
  • How about none? You are one of the major issues this community has. Play the damn game, if you draw a bad map, then suck it up. Even maps like haddonfield, although are a nightmare for Killers, still does not justify DC'n. 
  • Facecamping doesnt even exist anymore, it got removed 1 year (?) ago.

    It is now just the all inclusive term for a Killer being present on the map.
  • It is an outdated system to try and stop people hacking in BP. But it is a failure, if you are going to the extent of hacking in BP then there is nothing stopping you hacking in 1mil then clearing the amount, rinse and repeat.

  • Your suggestion as been tried before and it was abused by Survivors, so you the hate you are feeling is directed in the wrong direction. Devs have stated repeatedly that camping is perfectly fine and part of the game. Someone gets camped, do gens. Regardless of the points you get, the game will obviously be a bad one so just get the game done and get out. If you are the one being camped, well sucks to be you. Buy your team time to slam gens and move on.

  • @Aviema said:

    @Killigma said:
    Nothing really. If the Killer is set on a three gen strat then he will not move from this position. Most Killers can be baited or even tilted enough to give in and chase the Survivors. But as I said if he is dedicated to that strat, then there is not much you can do except have three gens being worked on constantly, while stopping any regression asap.

    Is this how killers play in higher ranks normally?

    Just depends on the game and how the Killer wants to play. If I am playing a game and the Survivors are slamming gens quickly and end up leaving three gens close together I will switch to a three gen strat if I am dedicated to getting a 4k that game. My only advice would be to try and get a lay of the land at the start of a game. If you see three gens next to each other, try and at least take out one of them straight off the bat to increase gen proximity.

  • Nothing really. If the Killer is set on a three gen strat then he will not move from this position. Most Killers can be baited or even tilted enough to give in and chase the Survivors. But as I said if he is dedicated to that strat, then there is not much you can do except have three gens being worked on constantly, while stopping any regression asap.

  • Thinking of starting my own topic; "Survivor entitlement with thinking all Killers should not have fun and face 2x toolboxes and 2x flashlight SWF."

  • @purebalance said:

    @Killigma said:
    Or you could just do gens and win while the Killer is stuck with a 1k game and no bloodpoints?

    Problem is unless you're SWF that's not going to happen. I solo did two gens during a camp and the other two were just lurking at the hook until sac stage and tried to save at the last minute only to get grabbed themselves.

    It is possible to happen. While those two "team mates" got grabbed you continued to do gens, or hunt for the hatch. Granted, with a team like that they are making it easier on the Killer for at least 3k, but if every Survivor learnt that doing gens is the best "######### you camper" then camping would be less common.

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