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Add on suggestions:
1. Survivors are revealed by killer instinct for a very short amount of time every x amount of seconds while mending When out of FF. See previous post for explanation.
2. Survivors suffering from deep wound make louder injured noises.
3. Survivors have their aura revealed for x amount of seconds when they stop mending. Unsure if there should be a noise notification.
4. Frank's mix tape rework: Hitting a survivor with FF then hitting another one and going back to hit the first survivor depletes the deep wound bar by a large amount. Maybe doesn't fully deplete the Frenzy bar but would still stun Legion. Would still be hard to down with frenzy but it adds pressure.
5. Increases FF duration tremendously (5 to 8 seconds) but with increased stun duration (.5 seconds to 1 second)
6. Survivors hit with FF suffer from the hindered status effect for a short time.
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@UlvenDagoth said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/744397#Comment_744397
I like it. It makes sense, wouldn't you (In a feral state) get more and more excited the more blood you spilled?
That's how I think of it. Like a happy and excited version of aww ######### here we go again.
AWWW SHIIIT HERE WE GOOOOO AGAIN!!!!
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@UlvenDagoth said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/744344#Comment_744344
Sneaky! Though, you have to use KI to find people IN FF right now. You cant track with scratch OR Blood.
This is my current though process with Legion changes. Survivors already don't like mending so I don't want to increase the time it take to fully mend. Debuffs like decreased repair speed are too oppressive apparently. So I'm thinking of ways to buff Legion for using his power rather than debuff the survivors.
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@UlvenDagoth said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/744344#Comment_744344
Sneaky! Though, you have to use KI to find people IN FF right now. You cant track with scratch OR Blood.
My thinking was this, you hit someone with FF and run off to hit someone else. You hit them and end your frenzy or don't make it ti them and end the power. When out of FF you hear the heartbeat and see the KI mark for a very short amount of time (for balance) every x amount of seconds while that first survivor is mending. What also helps balance this is that it is hard to tell distance with killer instinct.
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@UlvenDagoth said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/744314#Comment_744314
Though any TR change might mean KI needs a change right? Radius, as I said in the first post.
What do you think of this?
Survivors are revealed by killer instinct for a very short amount of time every x amount of seconds while mending When out of FF. Cannot be included with change number 4 (from my other post). Maybe this could be an add on?
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@UlvenDagoth said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/744314#Comment_744314
Though any TR change might mean KI needs a change right? Radius, as I said in the first post.
Yeah, killer instinct should be seperate from terror radius anyways. Also, one change that needs to be made regardless to what other changes are made is reduce the FF stun time to 3 seconds from 4 seconds.
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@UlvenDagoth said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/744291#Comment_744291
Oh! Those are rather good! Very interesting changes. I have to say my favorite part is the mend changes!
Here's a change to your suggestions:
After hitting two survivors with Feral Frenzy the Legions red stain is removed for x amount of seconds which would help with downs. Third hit lowers terror radius by 8 meters for x amount of seconds which could help with hitting that last survivor. With monitor and abuse the terror radius will be 16 meters. Addons could influence this.
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@UlvenDagoth said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/744182#Comment_744182
Thank you so much! Just please please please keep the rushdown style! That's my favorite part... it's WHY i play Legion! We need to keep it!
These are suggestions that have come up before but I tweaked them a bit
1. Hitting three survivors with Feral Frenzy grants Legion a one hit down for x amount of seconds on the last survivor. Perhaps give the last survivor the exposed status effect. This one was suggestef before but I tweaked it a bit.
2. First two survivors hit with Feral Frenzy grants 2% increased movement speed each while the third grants a 1% increase bringing their movement speed in Feral Frenzy up to 130%.
3. At base, being hit with Feral Frenzy causes mangled that persists until fully healed. Can't be stacked with other mangled status effects like sloppy butcher but works with coulraphobia and the like.
4. If a survivor stops mending then they are downed. Deep wound timer depletes while doing an action (mending, repairing, sabotaging and so on) even while near the killer. If not doing an action the deep wound timer does not deplete while within 32 meters of the killer.
To add to number 4, deep wound timer will be based off of distance from the killer and not the terror radius. So, with current Legion and this one change deep wound would not deplete when within 32 meters of the killer unless commiting to an action.
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@UlvenDagoth said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/744161#Comment_744161
Thank you for your feedback! You have very good points and I'll think about it and might add a 3rd idea using them!
I'm gonna start thinking of changes for Legion too. I'll post them here as they come to me.
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@Volfawott said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/744112#Comment_744112
The problem is that add-on sucks eggs.
Waste more time hitting them a second time and then initiating The Chase where you have to hit them a third time then you would if you had just got as close as possible and then cancelled Frenzy
Yup, those addons are awful. All we can do is wait to see what they do with Legion.
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@UlvenDagoth said:
So me and @LordGlint were talking about DBD and I told him that I was working on an Idea for Legion. I originally wanted something that hearkened back to there gang. Some kind of locker insanity or something but honestly, none of that would work, or at the very least it would be rather hard to put in game. So we started asking, what is Legion's main issue? Well, his power is kinda useless. By the time you slash one person, the rest have gone OR if they are injured they hear your TR and just book it.
First of all, let's take the removal of the blood trail in FF and the "M1s remove 50% of your power" things away. Those are silly and honestly, neither of us could come up with one good reason the Devs did that.
Secondly, DO NOT WORRY! We are not making his power lethal or put the chase on a "Timer". That is why people hated old Legion. We don't want that again.
So back to the main point. What do you do when you see Legion put deep wounds on someone nearby? You BOOK IT! You can't hide, but you can get away till they get hit with the end of power stun. Survivors know about There presence in advance in the general area... in other words the next victims.
So, you might be asking yourself, what do you do? Well it's simple! You could do one of two things.
- Remove his TR and red stain in FF. Just straight remove it so that he can run up on survivors and get them with FF and surprise them. Make the KI work on a radius. You could say there Frenzy is so great it cuts the ties the Entity have put on them for a limited time.
- Make his base TR 16 and his FF TR 24. Kinda a new approach to the same idea. This way would also open up Legion to be able to sneak up better on the people he has hit with his FF and need to m1 now to down. Legion is already the shortest Killer (yes, shorter than Hag) so they could FINALLY live up to the trailer and be even a LITTLE sneaky.
"But what about the stun?" Well, if you think about it, it's similar to Nurse. It's there to make sure that you don't just end it and m1. You MIGHT be able to shorten it, but it's not bad because it serves it's purpose.
Honestly, even with JUST these changes, We think that Legion would be in a better place AND keep the play style that Legion players love. Maybe even add old vaulting speeds back?
Also shoutout to @Frosty for getting me to think of this in the first place and for wanting me to post it.
This isn't including any thoughts on Mending and Deep Wounds, cause after BT got it too, it's no longer just a Legion Issue.
Your first idea of removing his terror radius and red stain during FF is interesting though it still won't help with getting a down. Downing has always been his issue even before the mega nerf (it being on a timer).
While, your second idea is also interesting but maybe the decreased terror radius should be linked to their power. Something like hitting a survivor in FF will lower the terror radius and remove the red stain for x amount of seconds after ending FF. Monitor would lower the radius to 8 which would be pretty strong. A shorter, faster tier 1 Myers.
I feel that borrowed time and Legion's power need to be separated.
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@BenZ0 said:
I had over 600 hours in old Legion and kind of 100 hours in the new, I know what I am talking about and you are true that you dont need necessary a power to kill survivors, but it is not fun at all and against good survivors you have no chances, especially in a swf.
Your idea doesnt took the running stabbing idea away thats true, but it is not a solve or fix or buff in any way, look at ghostface for an example. He is not bad but not that good at all aswell and he is probably the best stealthiest killer ever. Stealth is not a good fit for Legion, and the current FF is not fine at all, the running speed is a joke, the vault speed is slow and sluggish as #########, The cooldown is waaaaay to long with the "missing hit deplete power gauge" and the fatigue stun is more of a punishment then a power.
But even if all these FF aspects are gonna get buffed, Legion would still stay in a really bad spot because even wraith has a chase ability, he can atleast cloak to gain extra speed and run pass a survivor in chase to block a window or pallet of and then unclock. You cant do anything as a Legion and cry while you are getting looped.
Ghostface is incredibly powerful and I do very well with him in red ranks. I'm consistently rank 1 playing almost exclusively him.
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@UlvenDagoth said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/744093#Comment_744093
I do have a good idea over in Feedback about Legion.
I'll take a look
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This is possible with add ons but it most likely will never be a part of their base kit again. Survivors hated it.
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I do not want cross platform play to ever be a thing. Ever. Cross saves would be nice so that people can play play on multiple platforms.
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@UlvenDagoth said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/743958#Comment_743958
*cries in Legion Main*
Poor Ulven can't stop crying in Legion main 😢. I'm right there with you and have been waiting since their mega nerf to see them buffed. They deserve it so much.
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@FireHazard said:
@not_Queen does actually.
To add to this, she also has streamed herself playing Nurse
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@Horus said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/742199#Comment_742199
What were the medkit changes
Nothing has been mentioned yet
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@indieeden7 said:
We don't know yet
Yeh, gotta wait until tomorrow. As a console player I'm far more interested in the medkit changes and Archives being released.
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Remove keys, insta heals, mori's and some insta downs. The game would be in a much better place with these all removed.
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@UlvenDagoth said:
I think it would be a perk to speed up hook progression if a Killer is still nearby.
Lol I love this suggestion. Campers would have a field day.
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Rin would be fantasizing about killing her father while Ghostface would be going through his mori selfie pics and thinking of new places to take them.
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@BunnyTheHutt said:
Why can't we get a 10 foot tall Chucky costume like the first movie? That is the actual nightmare fuel.
I was thinking something similar. If the normal Chucky doll is too short then make it taller.
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@GuyNamedPubert said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/737995#Comment_737995
And instaheals and keys should be removed why? Instaheals are a 1 time thing and keys don't have a use unless it's purple or higher or with add-ons.
Ah, your response proves it then. No use trying trying to convince you of otherwise.
@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/737958#Comment_737958
Thank you but it doesn’t matter he won’t listen to us he will still whine and moan about a stupid perk that has the easiest counter ever
You were right @shirtlessdemi101
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@GuyNamedPubert said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/737966#Comment_737966
Adrenaline isn't even as OP as people make it out to be. You get healed once and a speed boost for a few seconds. NOED counters it and if the killer is good, they can get you down again no problem. Also if you downed, you become injured and are a 1 hit no matter what.
If adrenaline wasn't that great then it wouldn't be meta.... Have you never chased someone injured and as you're about to hit them they heal and sprint burst away? Or, have 3 or 4 injured people heal once the last gen pops?
Adrenaline is extremely powerful. Though I'd choose instaheals and keys being removed before asking adrenaline to be removed.
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@yobuddd said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/735803#Comment_735803
Ok that’s editable. 24 meters? 36? It needs to be enough to say the survivor reached safety, but not so much that they can just chase to killer around from a distance to maintain the DS timer.
And after a certain amount of seconds will ds deactivate
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@Stark_FrancoRd said:
you know i'm planning in buying two more killers: Michael Myers, GhostFace or Legion.
Myers I already confirmed that I'm buying him.
But both Legion and GhostFace are pretty cool. And I can't decide which one to buy.
Can somebody experienced give me an advice?
Legion's perks are okay with discordance being pretty good. Ghostface's perks are also just okay with thrilling tremors being the best of the three.
Choose Legion for discordance which glows yellow and alerts you to multiple survivors working on one gen. Ghostface is the better killer.
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@Snow_Lep said:
He gives you Sprint Burst and Borrowed Time, don't complain. He gives more than what he takes.
So, Legion are actually nice people. Giving more than they take. A lot of us can learn from them.
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@Milo said:
Tbh, this looks like her OG clothes but if they evolved
They evolved? What's their powet level now?
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@VolantConch1719 said:
My coulrophobia says Clown. Pretty self explanatory
My logic says Demogorgon. Ridiculously hard to outrun, and it can probably track you for miles (don't know the limit, never seen Stranger Things).
My awareness says Legion. If one's after you, in a real life situation, they'd likely ALL be after you.
Imagine all of them having old Legion's kit and Frenzying after you together. Equipped with the old Frank's mix tape and cold dirt. In reality, the Entity wouldn't give a ######### if survivors thought the killerd were unfair as long as it got what it wanted. Their emotions.
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@Ark_the_Bonsai said:
Raisin Bran. Used to really dig Apple Jacks, no idea what happened to them
Apple Jacks were the jam
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@Horus said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/729574#Comment_729574
This is just sad seening this data
How little prestiging increases rarity?
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@Mew said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/729498#Comment_729498
Switching the rarity of a broken add on doesn't fix the problems with it.
It's your opinion that the add on is broken. It could be tweaked but that's up to the devs.
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Are you being sarcastic? Dedicated servers are not live.
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@GrootDude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/729517#Comment_729517
Switching Fathers glasses with prayer beads would make the glasses purple and the beads iri, so it’d be more common.
Prayer beads will be less common if they are ultra rare.
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@GrootDude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/729498#Comment_729498
Then prayer beads will be more common, she’ll have three iri items available in a bloodweb and many more purple add ons.
No, I didn't say to just make prayer beads an iri so she has three ultra rares. Switching Father's glasses and prayer beads should make prayer beads less common in blood webs.
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Spirit does not need her add ons reworked. As a lot of us have been saying, switching the rarity of Father's glasses and prayers beads is enough. Her base kit is fine too for the most part.
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@PoisonN said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/727435#Comment_727435
Yassss
I really love her kimonos too but I want something with ninja style!
I would love an abyss/void skin for Spirit. Gray and black coloration with a dark hole where her face should be.
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This society calls itself "The Hookers"
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@AshleyWB said:
Be very specific. Design ideas, features and details talk about them.
I'm thinking if we can brainstorm a few really good styles, maybe the dbd team who creates cosmetics could take inspiration from your ideas.
Images and drawings will be really good to look at.
Bunny feng
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/724593#Comment_724593
Like if they removed the wiggle action, Mad Grit would be become Uber meta.
Plus save the best for last last.
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@Aura_babyy said:
Personally it's hard because I introduced my friends to DBD so I could enjoy the game with them while teaching them and giving them the ropes.
I did warn them that the current changes would cause the matchmaking skill gap to be more so on my level than theirs ( it was a full swf). I'm a rank 2, so that really meant unforgiving matchmaking for them.
I honestly think matchmaking should try out brackets instead of average, or matchmaking based off the highest rank.
Yes I could use a smurfs account, but nothing is more annoying to me than a smurf account to avoid losing rank on the main.
Play with them in a custom game to show them how to play
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@LegendKaizer said:
So there is this bullshit glitch were the timer when the gates are opened on PS4 dont move at all and you cant tell how much time you have left which is complete bullshit as it causes people die for no reason and help out some camping piece of ######### killer. So when is this ######### going to be fixed?
Hotfix was just released that solves this bug though if you just leave when the gate is open it wouldn't have been an issue.
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Making polls on the forums is pretty cool. When was this made a thing?
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@Horus said:
Nah you just haven't played with an optimal team to actually know why most killers arent viable at red ranks
To add to this, an optimal survivor, for the most part, is working on gens as much and as often as possible. With only one survivor able to be chased at once the other three will attach themselves to a gen. Toolboxes make it easier for them but they aren't necessary.
This is my view of optimal. Though, once a survivor realizes that's all that is required that is all they will focus on.
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@UlvenDagoth said:
This Post. All of it. +1
The post and this clip: https://www.reddit.com/r/deadbydaylight/comments/d99z2s/clip_from_a_recent_otzdarva_video_that_perfectly/
Sum it up perfectly.
Thank you for posting that clip
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No new Legion outfits until they are buffed. If there are any before then I will not buy them.
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I'd argue that Demogorgon is the strongest gen protector with its portals having killer instinct. Killer instinct works vertically as well as horizontally.
Step One: Place portals near gens then activate them.
Step Two: Charge power and listen for heartbeat.
Step Three: Travel to portal with heartbeat.
Step Four: Profit
Once the portals are setup you don't even need to walk to the gens to patrol them. Just use your power. Also, your portals being cleansed is a good thing as the survivors can be ambushed if you are nearby (they don't hear the terror radius), they are cleansing instead of repairing gens, and alerts you to their whereabouts when fully cleansed.
Demo has a lot tracking and information potential as well as being strong with protecting things like the basement, hooks, and gens. In some ways its ability to protect is better than hags as the portals can't be avoided by crouching through or removed with flashlights.
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Oblivious prevents borrowed time from activating thus making Freddy a strong camper. Though, if someone has OoO your aura will always be able to be revealed by them as long as they are asleep.
