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@IlliterateGenocide said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1978178#Comment_1978178
cultural Marxism isn't that the far-right anti-Semitic conspiracy theory? what does that have to do with this
EDIT: Saw the mod warning on page 2.
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I will gladly welcome 1,000 LGBT characters into this game if it prevents even one more dumbass costume like Dwight In A Box.
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@Fantasy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1979347#Comment_1979347
No. Go watch top tier killers play with it and see how many times the exit gates get opened. Aren't you the guy who cries about dead hard being OP in every thread anyway? Yeah I'm gonna just ignore whatever you have to say lmao.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1979285#Comment_1979285
"This is the same trash argument I hear about every single Killer perk survivors don't like" yeah I wonder why I called you a killer main, mystery...
Top tier Killers 4K befoer the exit gates all the time that is why they are top tier killers.
And no, I don't cry about Dead Hard. I have zero problem with Dead Hard. I'm not a Killer main or a Dead Hard whiner, so I think you very much have me confused with someone else.
And you don't have to be a killer main to notice the same repeat arguments on the forums.
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@Dpooly said:
I think the Killers username and everyones rank absolutely should be visible in lobbies as well as an indicator of people in groups/parties together
You have no idea how much longer this would extend wait times.
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4/10
Trolls are not even trying anymore.
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"WHY IS THAT HOMOPHOBES?"
Is this a question?
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Mods, can we please get all these LGBT threads merged into one? These threads are not as unique as the OP seems to think they are.
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@Fantasy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1978934#Comment_1978934
I play killer just as much, clearly you only play killer. You're saying that's a trash argument yet now you are bringing up NOED vs Tinkerer hahaha. NOED can be cleansed and isn't active until the end of the game, little bit different isn't it? Go talk nonsense somewhere else.
"I play killer just as much, clearly you only play killer."
Where do people come up with lines like this? I played about 12 games of Dead By Daylight last night and every single one of them was Survivor. Jumping to conclusions must burn a lot of calories.
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@Fantasy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1978897#Comment_1978897
I said what perk would help with that early game problem. A killer is just chasing the first guy too long if 3 gens pop.
Both sides have unusable trash perks.
Tinkerer is just overtuned and in the right hands the exit gates are not getting powered.
Most of the top streamers who 4K every game and gloat about it have this perk because it carries them.
Yes, yes, yes. This is the same trash argument I hear about every single Killer perk survivors don't like. I could take almost every argument you've made about Tinkerer and replace it with "NOED" and the threads would read the same.
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@Fantasy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1978843#Comment_1978843
The only time that ever happens is at the start of a game where you chase one person for too long and the other 3 are on a generator each. Corrupt Intervention is a fair perk what stops that or adjust how you play early game.
You cannot say "You don't need perk Y because perk X exists".
This thread, if nothing else, illustrates how there are like 10 Killer perks worth anything and the rest are garbage. Tinkerer only seems god tier because there's such an ocean of unusable trash perks.
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@Fantasy said:
I've used it and played against it enough to know it's overtuned. The clear notification of when a generator reaches 70% with no cooldown is the problem, the long undetectable status is just a bonus.
In the hands of a good killer it's going to be a hatch game. It hard carries on its own, let alone using it with other perks. Spine Chill MIGHT help you avoid a hit, but the killer has crucial intel now and in the endgame with one or two gens left when one survivor is probably dead already it's gg.
Killer mains that use it will disagree because well..it's the best killer perk in the game. It is not the most common but I'm sure if the data was looked at this perk is top tier.
It should either have a limited number of uses via tokens, similar to Distortion or only activate once per generator.
In a game where I can lose 3 generators in 2 minutes, this perk is a required part of the game's health right now.
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Triple the DC Penalty.
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No perk currently in the game is overpowered.
No, not even NOED.
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@Beelzeboop said:
I just wanted to mention, this has more views and comments than half of the threads on the front page, but it's on the third one instead.
It seems like someone doesn't want us talking about this, but isn't willing to outright deny discussion.
I don't think the forum works like that. I think it just bumps whatever was most posted recently to the top. All it would take is like ten threads to be started or bumped for a thread to hit the next page. I don't think there's any hoodoo voodoo on the part of the site, mods, or BHVR.
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@TheClownIsKing said:
Yo, Community.
Those opposed to this representation in this game, geez, there are better, more pressing things to be obsessing your doughy little brains on.
Do you know how large a part of this player base is LGBTIQ+? I guarantee that every single time you log into play this game, you are regularly being matched with other players from the LQBTIQ+ community. In some cases, probably almost every single match.
You’re in denial otherwise if this is not accepted.
ONE character providing representation of the LQBTIQ+ community from a roster of DOZENS doesn’t break the game, doesn’t change the rules, and isn’t going to corrupt you with its gay conversion laser beams through your screen.
Chill.
Or do you need to come out of the closet too?
A better question would be:
Why did you need to make this thread when there already are threads on this topic?
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@JasmineDragon said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1976543#Comment_1976543
dont care, Im not gonna let people try to defend needless toxicity. Deal with playing at the lower ranks if you don't want the headache. There is no reward/trophy/any reason to WANT to play at rank 1 or 2. If you can't play well enough to just stay there normally you shouldn't be there. Maybe the community wouldnt be so toxic if either side did need to be dicks to the other to feel good about themselves
Ranks, ranking, and what rank you or anyone else holds is completely irrelevant to this thread and this conversation.
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@Elena said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1974521#Comment_1974521
Funny how it bothers you that the survivor might be LGBTQ 🤧
It actually doesn't. And I've said so. But you're welcome to go through every post I've ever made and find the one where I said that it bothers me.
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@Jyn_Mojito said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1975857#Comment_1975857
Can you please tell me where I've said I can't function if a video game doesn't represent my demographic/lifestyle? I mean, I lived through the dark ages of gaming where a woman's primary role was damsel in distress, or eye candy in titty armor. Doesn't mean I didn't play through it,, doesn't mean I didn't LOVE every second of playing a powerful, competent woman in CONTROL 🤷♀️
So many ppl in this thread be so aggressive and it's not necessary- I have more than enough hugs for everyone 🤗❤
THAT was the Dark Age of gaming?!
I don't think so.
That pales in comparison to the Rise of the Loot boxes.
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I believe it also works on Midwich elementary school.
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I was put in jail for insulting someone's reading comprehension that was mischaracterizing my posts.
The moderator came at me saying that it's uncool because some people might have English as a second language.
I deeply doubt that was the case, but it is what it is.
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@Phasmamain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1975625#Comment_1975625
I guess you’re right but it’s equally annoying on every bit of diversity in a video game to see “we don’t want politics in our game”
It's because video games are often viewed as a form of escapism from the real world. When everywhere you turn there's someone complaining about something politically, whether it's on a late night show, or Saturday Night Live, or Facebook, or Twitter or your workplace and just want to be able to go somewhere where you can turn your brain off and enjoy yourself for a few minutes without having that bombarding your senses.
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@Phasmamain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1975600#Comment_1975600
Politics or not I don’t see the issue with having an lgbt character in this game
I don't have a problem with them inherently being included either, I just find it really annoying when people try to say things like "this is not political!" when it very much is and they're clearly just ignoring the definition of the word.
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@Removedcpenalty said:
Due to community opinions, you will peacefully answer me.
Biased poll.
Where is my "Triple the DC Penalty" option?
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@Phasmamain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1975026#Comment_1975026
This isn’t about politics it’s about representing a minority of people In this video game
Having a character in a video game horror or not you can identify with is great
I want you to google what the word "politics" means and then reread your post very slowly.
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@Phasmamain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1974995#Comment_1974995
Very true but a lot of tlou2 hate came down to Ellie being gay or Abby being too muscular( That doesn’t even make sense they clearly show why)
What made this hilarious to me was as someone with a sexuality toward muscular women Abby didn't even blink on my radar.
When Kristen Nun gets put in a video game, then we can talk about muscular women.
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1975210#Comment_1975210
That's a lot of words for something that could easily be summarised as "The inclusion of more diversity in the survivor roster is totally pointless and does nothing for the game balance and performance, why do you care so much about being represented when it doesn't even matter"
Almost everything you wrote is incredibly insulting and demeaning for the sake of it, not because it's actually logical.
You would say the same about the inclusion of POC? People of different races, genders, nationalities, backgrounds? Why the ######### is including another human such a controversial thing to you people?
Yes, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter in the same way that if the entire survivor cast was full of carbon copies of Dwights and Megs, it wouldn't affect gameplay at all. Claudette, Elodie, Feng, Yui, Adam, Tapp, Jake, Their inclusion in the game is pointless because they add NOTHING to the game other than diversity and lore. What the ######### makes an LGBT survivor so damn controversial to you people that you feel the need to almost literally tear down other people for caring about being represented in a video game. It's such a small thing for you, but a huge thing for those it affects.
I'm basically ranting at this point, and you can dissect my post piece by piece and show me how wrong I am. I won't be responding in this thread anymore after this because it's not even lunch time and I'm already mentally drained. Enjoy your damn day.
You really really really love dry humping this comparison to LGBT representation with race and it doesn't fly AT ALL.
Race has a visual component. Sexuality is not. Sexual expression is not tied to any particular sexual orientation. Dwight could be gay for all we know. You don't "see" gayness, so trying to compare an LGBT character to one like Adam or Claudette or Feng is disingenuous.
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@thrawn3054 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1974521#Comment_1974521
Not everything has to be a massive shift in current gameplay. Sometimes it's just nice to have people feel like they're cared about too.
They do not care about you.
AT ALL.
All the proof you need of that is to look at all the companies that change their Facebook profile pictures on June 1st and then dump them July 1st.
@thrawn3054 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1974582#Comment_1974582
Apparently you don't understand the concept of representation. Obviously nobody will play just because of that. If, however you are new to a game, or been around a while, you'll probably be happy to able to see yourself in a character. Why do you think survivors main a certain character? Because something about that character speaks to them.
Not everything has a pc agenda behind it. Sometimes it's just a nice thing to do.
Doesn't this fall under the Bury Your Gays trope, since the Killers are literally going to be murdering them ad infinitum?
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I kind of have to agree. I know Otz made a video trying to praise it, but I just can't get behind it.
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@Jyn_Mojito said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1974557#Comment_1974557
Then what's the harm in indulging in wishful thinking? Who and how is the game being harmed by offering inclusion and representation? If it won't change gameplay, why complain? And if it does, how awesome! Do you need a hug, Debbie Downer? Cuz I've got extras 🤗
I didn't say they shouldn't.
I said this changes NOTHING.
The game will go on EXACTLY the same as it did, with three more perks like it does every Chapter.
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@Jyn_Mojito said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1974521#Comment_1974521
It will bring tangible representation to a certain demographic. Ppl gravitate to spaces where they feel INCLUDED, and they'll naturally want to join in. So yes, I think this will change the current gameplay, because YES, more players mean a stronger community and hopefully faster queue times.
That's a Mister Fantastic level of reach.
Maybe if this were Dragon Age or Mass Effect, but this is a game where every Survivor is a paper doll with exchangeable perks. Whatever "lore" the character has is as relevant as the ingredients on the back of a shampoo bottle you read because you forgot to take your phone into the bathroom.
And no, it won't change gameplay. You cannot name one game mechanic that will be altered with this move. They can do it if the want, but thinking this will speed up your queue times is wishful thinking AT BEST.
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YAY! It's about time! Think about what this will do to the current gameplay!
Oh, right. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
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@Crypticghoul said:
I do agree with him regarding the double standard existing. Survivors are frequently toxic towards killers that don't perform well, pushing any empathetic and/or non-meta players away from playing killer.
I do however think that tunneling shouldn't be a viable strategy in the first place and I fault Behaviour for not having anti-tunnel/camp be a part of the game without needing to bring perks or rely on the killer being afraid of the possibility of said perks. I think relegating tunnel protection to a teammate bringing BT and the tunneled bringing DS is poor design that unnecessarily hurts newer players who don't have those perks yet and it stifles build diversity.
Camping is whatever. It's objectively bad for the killer if the survivors just do generators and last second hook trade. Not fun for the camped person or the killer but it's really only a problem in solo queue where you can't tell your teammates to just do generators, hence why I think Kindred's killer reveal should activate if the killer hangs out near the hook for ~10ish seconds.
Edit: To alleviate how powerful tunneling can be, I'd like to see it changed to where the hook timer resumes where it left off rather than progressing to the next stage if you rehook the survivor in x amount of time of being unhooked. I'd propose maybe a 30 second grace period.
I'm fine with either mindset of approaching things in the game. Spooks is openly "Use whatever is in the game. It's there for a reason and it is dumb to get mad over a video game". Others believe that toxic (vague word) behavior should be addressed to help retain the player base.
My issue comes when people don't pick a lane and apply different mindsets to different groups. I.E It's okay when a Survivor does it but not okay a Killer does it.
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@Terro said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1974077#Comment_1974077
They're meta cuz ppl want to win.
They're also second chance perks, which are the most commonly run perks.
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@Fantasy said:
I get plenty of abuse for using DS and unbreakable. Soooooo......
You get messages sent to you by Killers on the Playstation Network saying to off yourself for running DS and Unbreakable?
I'm pressing X right now.
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I'm no 5K hour Killer main, but here we go:
Trapper: Do not blind vault windows! Watch for door entrances, especially at choke points and Killer Shacks. Traps can be very hard to see in grass. Remember stepping in a trap gives Trapper a notification.
Wraith: He is now even more invisible, but not silent. Listen for the animal growl he gives off to tip off he is nearby.
Billy: Do not face him in open ground. Billy loves his straight shots. Use twists and turns to avoid getting sawed down.
Nurse: Be as erratic and unpredictable as possible. After her first blink, she will blink again to triangulate the hit. So right after that first hit juke in the most random direction possible!
Myers: Do not try to fake him out. Any kind of "which way am I gonna go?" mind game is an excuse to just give him more stalk. Keep breaking line of sight as often as possible.
Hag: Crouch walk when unhooking survivors and approaching generators.
Doctor: Right after he does his first hook, get in a locker. Most doctors use their big map shock then to find their next victim. Avoid it!
Huntress: Avoid straight aways, pallets, and windows that give her line of sight. It is very common for her to hatchet right into an M1 and down you very quickly.
Cannibal: Avoid other Survivors. Do not group up. If he starts to camp, avoid the urge to whine on the forums and genrush as hard and as fast as possible to capitalize on it.
Freddy: There's not much counterplay. Sorry. Spine Chill helps spot his coming in the dream world, but you don't have much going for you. Wake up when possible. His biggest weakness is finding Survivors, so try to be stealthy and make him waste time looking for you.
Pig: Remember she gets a limited number of hats. Once they are gone, they are gone. Her lunge has a long distance, so if you are going to juke commit to it. Watch out for her crouch, it makes her undetectable.
Clown: Drop the pallets early. Avoid simple loops he can exploit with the tonic.
Spirit: Heal early and often. Staying injured is a death sentence and makes it ten times easier to locate you while phase.
Legion: Exploit his fatigue when frenzy wears off. Avoid being near other Survivors so he cannot chain hit. Don't forget to mend.
Plague: Don't avoid the pools. It fully heals you, and you don't want to be coughing and vomiting and telling where you are at all times. Yes, corrupt purge can wound, but so can her M1 when she finds you because you thought you were hiding behind that rock - you weren't.
Ghostface: Always be looking around you at all times. Do not get tunnel vision when working a chest, gen, or totem.
Demogorgon: Watch for his shred lunge. Avoid being near his abyssal portals.
Oni: Make him earn his hits. Heal up to avoid dropping blood orbs. Use windows and sharp turns to duck Demon Strike
Deathslinger: Avoid standing where he can get a clear shot. It doesn't matter if there is a barrier between you or not. He CAN drag you to a window with his chain and M1 you anyway.
Pyramidhead: Don't try to pallet mindgame. Be wary of generators near a wall, as he can strike through them. Do not blindly run unless you can see the floor to avoid torment. If you do need to move past trails, crouch over it to avoid torment.
Blight: Use windows and other interactives to make him regret bouncing near you. Windows, pallets, floor openings, etc can throw him off.
Twins: Make Victor take corners. Kick him if he misses a lunge. Remember if he downs you and they swap back to her, she gets a Killer Instinct heartbeat to locate you when downed. This can get your friends killed if you accidentally train her into them.
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@Shirokinukatsukami said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1972182#Comment_1972182
NoED at least you can play around. Bubble you generally can't unless you have Mettle of Man and Borrowed Time.
I 100% agree with you, I'm just saying I would not blame a teammate for leaving me behind if I was hooked in the endgame collapse and suddenly they realize that No One Escapes Death has gone off.
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I don't understand the point of constantly trying to compare whether Survivors or Killers have been nerfed more over the years.
It doesn't matter who got nerfed more often, or harder.
All that matters is what the state of the game is now, and what it needs.
Anything else is a distractionary tactic at best, and pointlessly whining at worst.
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Bubba and NOED are both acceptable reasons to leave.
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Doing a pretty good job so far.
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@ChiefDanks said:
Yo this is a bit much Meyers can stalk you till the meter is full then instant kill you? I was literally 2 minutes into the game, worthless teammates fill his meter then dump him on me, then he instantly kills me with 0 hooks and 0 hits? He then proceeded to do the same to the guy I was playing with, 0 hits 0 hooks, rewarded with an instant kill. Bit ridiculous when you can't even get a chance to play the ******* game. All I ask is to require AT LEAST 1 hook
Are you talking about T3 Myers with the add ons?
Dude, he had to stalk you FOREVER to do that. If you died to that, you let that man get entirely too much stalk meter off and he earned it.
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@ukenicky said:
Her name is Lady Dimitrescu and she is iconic.
Okay but for real I can't see her being in the game no offense.
9 ft is WAY too tall and RE Village isn't even out yet. I feel like they'd probably add some other villain/monster from Resident Evil rather than her tbh. Plus she uses a claw glove literally exactly like Freddy and that would be kind of a copy lol
I honestly could see a FNAF deal happening because some at BHVR really want to see it happen but also some don't. Basically I wouldn't put it past happening. To the whole "pallet stunning an animatronic doesn't make sense" all I have to say is neither does pallet stunning Demogorgon or flashlight blinding Pyramid Head and yet here we are.
Chucky my only issue is how would he hook people?
Candyman is actually horrifying if you watched the movie but I understand he may seem boring on outward appearances / first glance.
She's iconic? Her game doesn't even come out for 3 more months.
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@JPA said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1971004#Comment_1971004
The fact there was an obsession could be enough to make you not tunnel, since you don't know which survivor may have DS.
With the proposed changes, you'd be able to tunnel freely as you know exactly who to slug, because a timer appears by their name.
I hate DS (when used aggressively), but I still think this would be bad to add as then DS is completely useless as an anti-tunnel perk anymore.
DS is gonna be much less of an issue with the changes anyway.
Still not seeing the problem.
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@JPA said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1970931#Comment_1970931
That's totally different. When you see an Obsession you know 1 out of 4 survivors, at least, is running an obsession perk, which is most likely going to be DS. It isn't always going to be the obsession either.
If there was a DS timer, you would know, with 100% certainty, the very survivor which has DS when they are unhooked.
I'm not seeing the problem.
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Surge.
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@X_Scott said:
But then you'd know they had ds, and if you knew they didn't have it, you'd be tunneling off the hook, etc. No. Stop whining about 1 perk.
I already know when they don't have it when I see no Obsession.
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I want to throw Pinhead into the bad idea pile.
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@Fuzzels said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1970559#Comment_1970559
Oh no, your feelings got hurt in a video game!?
Bruh just move on. Stop playing online games if youre that sensitive.
You realize that sustaining this terrible attitude costs this game players, right?
How long do you want your queue times?
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@Fuzzels said:
If you dont care about a win or loss, why does it bother you how other people have fun? Just put em on ignore and meme with them in game then move on. Pretty simple logic
When they treat you badly in the process?
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@Aven_Fallen said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1970516#Comment_1970516
Nope, Survivors should have the same chance of escaping a chase like a Killer of catching them. This is a Multiplayer Onlinegame and not a Slaughter-Simulator.
And if you are unable to catch a Survivor at an unsafe Loop without Bloodlust, they are better than you and you need to git gud.
This argument would only work if this was 1v1. But it's not. It's 4v1. "Equal" chance is not actually equal.
So yes, it actually IS a slaughter simulator.
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@Leachy_Jr said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1970347#Comment_1970347
Yea, which means im devoting too long to a survivor. So I'm actually doing the right play by leaving him and going to gens. But ya know he's healed back up in literally 15 seconds on his own.
Disagree. You have the Survivor dead to rights and in your sights. Why let them go just so they can heal up? The number of seconds lost finishing the job is fewer than the number of seconds trying to hunt them down later, and then you need to do it twice!