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Maybe with a combination of Ruin and Deadlock, but it's like Counterforce. People are having a fuss over nothing.
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@Shymare_11 said:
I good with that but also:
Shouldn’t escaping chase also give survival points instead of boldness?
Actually that also makes sense.
Why the ######### is esacpe not Survival?
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Oh boy, that reminds me of my old "guides" about an in-depth "analysis" of Payday 2 characters.
Developers can remove guides, but I doubt they'd care enough to actually do something about it.
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Not everytime but ironically this did happen to me just last game, lmao.
Though I think hearing three gens pop in a row might've pushed him beyond the limit
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Hey Sluzzy, how's your games been?
Sorry to hear it's not as great as you thought it'd be.
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@justad00d said:
Not nearly as fun.
120 games prior to MMR rank 1 with Legion:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/YUR911PQ2ARE/image.png
Since MMR has been activated with Legion:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/ECTR77P4GQWN/image.png
Not a single chill game. Every game has been super sweaty and stressful. This is the first time since I've started playing that I've considered quitting. I don't want to just stomp lower skilled players every game, but I need some variety. I come home from work and just want to chill, play a bit, and have fun. Don't want to struggle against toxic stretch res swfs in every game.
I would like to thank you for proving without a doubt that MMR works for Killers.
Your stats stabilized into something that is a lot more meaningful and manageable and you aren't pubstomping every game.
So again.
Thank you so so much for proving that MMR is needed so people like you actually face survivors your skill level :D
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@kate_best_girl said:
Remember when we got our FIRST mid chapter? How we got like what 10 perk changes? Sloppy got its mangled, Ace in the hole got its 2nd add on etc etc. I miss those days.
Yeah, and then the game started getting buggier and buggier by the day and we get more bug fixes rather than actual updates.
"We can make content and bug fixes" my ass.
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I noticed that if I play one of my mains, it is pretty much instant.
But if I am playing a Killer I know has low MMR, it takes a bit. Maybe that's why.
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@justad00d said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2488714#Comment_2488714
What part of that statement do you not understand?
I'll give you a simple analogy.
A 17-year-old kid with no marketable skills sees an orthopedic surgeon roll up next to him at a stoplight in a Ferrari. Surgeon is dressed nice, has a super hot girl with him in the car, and is balling hard.
The kid could have many different reactions. My reaction was I wanted to be like that. I worked and paid my way through college, graduated with a 4.0, got into medical school, matched into an excellent residency, and became an expert in my field. I worked to develop multiple income streams to work towards my goal of pulling in $1m a year. I worked to master the game, and as a result, I've won at life.
Many other people in this situation would say this is outside their grasp. Going to college is too much work. Becoming a doctor takes too long. They don't have determination or fortitude to preserve. Instead, maybe they want to be lazy and take a job at Walmart. They would never imagine earning a million in their life, let alone in a single year.
People who want SBMM are like this second group. They don't think they are capable enough. No self confidence. They're not willing to put in the time to get there. They choose the easy path to their trailer park with the other low achievers.
Like wealth redistribution, the lazy want to redistribute these easier games away from me to themselves. But being stuck in a community where I only see high achieving ballers 100% of the time is no fun for me. One of the best parts of being on top is looking down and seeing all the people beneath you.
This has to be a copypasta.
No one seriously talks or behaves like this. There's no way someone lacks this much self awareness.
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This is such a mood
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For Killers I main it's been a sweatfest, but that is to be expected. My MMR ratings on those killers are most likely inflated.
But for Killers I have not played for a while, it's been really fun!
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I know I've only played against one Nurse and she had a blink bug where she can't use her second blink.
It's actually kinda awful how she still has these bugs.
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
Because the devs hate solo queue. This is evident by the fact they made small game the totem counter despite us begging for ######### YEARS and then proceeded to say "We hope solo queue will enjoy this :)"
Also in the same Patch they made Open Handed a pekr which works better in SWF than solo. That's fun too.
"After all the feedback, we hope you'll enjoy the update to Small Game as a totem counter"
~ Almo
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Trapper.
Need I remind you that Amanda couldn't stand up to a guy who has the reflexes of a snail in one of the SAW movies?
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On certain killers it's definitely Killer sided, but for most Killers it definitely is not.
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Chris literally punched a boulder into dust.
I don't think David stands a chance.
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Oni literally has armour.
Hillbilly's chainsaw would break before it can even pierce it.
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@TacitusKilgore said:
Night time DBD is something else man. Some of the most deranged individuals i have ever seen crawl out of their dens at night to exclusively play this game. Methinks its because only the most dedicated dbd players actually bother to stay past reasonable sleeping hours to keep playing this game.
Me who plays this game up until 5 AM in the morning
Hahaha... I don't know what you're talking about..
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I don't care.
If Nurse/Spirit/Blight gets nerfed, I'll just keep playing the Killers I normally play. And unlike some people here, I do enjoy playing against the other Killers in the roster.
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@[Deleted User] said:
Whatever to post just to try and justify how bad MMR is, lol.
So many people against this system, damn.
Best part is it's only been 2 days. But like anything in the forums, it'll probably die out in a couple of days.
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Yes please.
I'd love for other point categories to bleed into other categories
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@Warcrafter4 said:
You mean in a DLC were:
The main attraction is a lone killer who has bugs that crashes people games on a regular basis.
Maps being disabled...Again.
People losing DLCs due to glitches to the point that a post explains it is pinned.
Game breaking glitches like unbreakable pallets.
Lunge bug that negatively effects killers.
Being honest with all these game ruining issues I am surprised the numbers are as high as they are.
The Lunge bug only affects Pinhead.
But yes, a lot of those bugs as well.
And I think the unbreakable pallets are only in Gideon.
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You know the term "misleading graph"?
You should go look it up, it's rather interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E91bGT9BjYk -
@Triadequinaxor said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2485134#Comment_2485134
i would prefer ranked rewards be cosmetic or some other ######### like a cool border, or some kill count ratio or how many times you dead hard, a leader board to point to show the best players in game
I'd still rather it be bloodpoints, but much more of them.
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@Triadequinaxor said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2485135#Comment_2485135
apparently it does, since you get put against people with ur skill
Uhh.. Yeah?
That's the point of MMR?
What are you trying to do, brag that you're "Rank 1"?
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@Triadequinaxor said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2484793#Comment_2484793
thats because ur playing at rank 10
Rank doesn't mean anything anymore.
Soooo, nice I guess?
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@Triadequinaxor said:
Staying at rank 1 killer is pretty easy if u dont tunnel/camp and get brutal killer, no win condition = no loss :D
It's less about staying in Rank 1, and more about getting there.
I like to play fairly. And because of that, my BP gains tend to be fairly decent on both sides. It tends to swim around the 20k area.
Which is why it's fairly bullshit that BHVR decided that you only get 500k and that is if you put the time and effort required on both sides. If not, you only get 250k. Which is even worse.
I can get 500k in around 20 games. 10 games with BBQ and WGLF.
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Its been getting worse to be honest..
I ######### hate this anti cheat.
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Can anyone honestly say they are having fun playing killer since SBMM hit?
I can. o/
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No.
Devotion and XP are a measure of how much you've played. Not Skill.
That's an awful idea.
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2483877#Comment_2483877
I can't exactly give it better data if I get hour long queue times.
Then your MMR is absurdly high. Which is to be expected given how often you can pubstomp. This will happen especially to killers you main. Which is what happens in any MMR-based game that hasn't had MMR until recent.
If your queue times are long and stay long, then that is feedback for the devs. MMR is clearly working good enough for the vast majority of players. And by good enough I mean good enough to get games that aren't a curbstomp on either side. It's been the first day with MMR on, let it settle.
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2483864#Comment_2483864
So the old system did work, at least somewhat.
Pick a side. Either the old system produced unreliable data or it produced usable data.
The test wasn't as bad as it is currently.
No, the old system produced unreliable data compared to the current MMR system.
Which is why it needs adjusting. Which is why having any data is better than having no data at all.
Because anything is better than randomly assigning people to matches with random players, some with far higher skill sets than the average player.
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2483717#Comment_2483717
Then why collect data at all?
If the system is so flawed that the data is #########, why even collect it?
Because it's better than forcing EVERYONE to start at 0. Where it's completely random for everyone for a long time.
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I played with a friend who has stopped playing DBD for a while and only came back because of MMR.
His MMR is realistically non-existant, but the Killers we faced were... At best, below average.
It wasn't a complete stomp, but they definitely weren't completely clueless
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2483708#Comment_2483708
That's blatantly false.
BHVR has been collecting data for years, wiped it and then collected another 6 months worth.
The system should be working now, and if it isn't, it's broken.
... With a matchmaking system that the community collectively agrees is #########.
Yeah no ######### the data is not perfect. That's why you have to wait a couple of weeks until things settle.
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@FatallyIconic said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2483636#Comment_2483636
Higher MMR giving rewards (be it badges, cosmetics etc) encourage people to get better at the game. A lot of other games do this, and it's actually healthy for the game because people will actually try and play well and not THROW the game (which happens a lot in DBD)
The point of this MMR is that you shouldn't feel any incentive to sweat. But to play the game how you normally do.
If you force players to sweat it out every game, especially for a game like DBD where the highest levels of play are unbalanced, then we're back to the ######### situation where Rank 1 is a mixed bag of skill levels.
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@ShinobuSK said:
Some kind of special cosmetics if you reach very high mmr would be nice.
That LITERALLY defeats the point of MMR.
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2482407#Comment_2482407
Oh, is it?
I couldn't tell since we have no numbers.
I guess you can't tell with your actual games?
You don't need a number telling you you had fun.
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Glad to see you're enjoying it, mate!
I'm having such a good time with MMR as well. I've been able to play games on Killers I normally feel too afraid to play purely because I was stuck in Red Rank hell (Killers like Ghostface and Doctor). Not because I can't play them, but because I don't have any good builds on them to counter the stuff Red Rank survivors usually bring me.
But now, I can bring whatever the hell I want and play however the hell I want. Without having to worry about sweating too hard and make sure everyone have a fun game afterwards.
Of course, I won't object to people being salty despite me playing fair though ;)
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@anarchy753 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2483556#Comment_2483556
The fact that it's working for you doesn't mean that it's working for everyone.
People who are in ash rank are almost entirely there because they're brand new. Yes, it's not being used for matchmaking now, but their current rank is based on how much and how well they played over the last month. An ash rank isn't suddenly equipped to deal with previously red rank killers the next day just because "secret invisible matchmaking" magically decided they're a top tier player today.
And duh, obviously people aren't posting screenshots of their 4 red rank and a brown lobby where they got sub 10k points because they had such a fun match.
Shouldn't that be the point though?
Play the game for fun, even if you didn't get much points.
But we are still going through a transitional period with MMR, it's still not absolutely perfect.
I mean hell, I won almost every single one of my games as Blight using that build prior to MMR and these was the survivors I went up against.
In Ormond. Three of them were good and gave me a run for my money, one (the Bronze 4) didn't really know what she was doing.
So while it isn't immediately perfect, it did match me with survivors that are my skill level. Even if one of them clearly wasn't.
I understand if it isn't working for you, but I have been having a lovely experience with it myself (and so do a lot of other people in the forums). And I'd like to share my positive experiences more than my negative ones. God knows this forum can use for less complaining and whining.
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@Mringasa said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2483387#Comment_2483387
Same. All my matches tonight with two exceptions were thoroughly enjoyable. Haven't had this much fun in a couple years now. Most team mates were pretty good, had some really bad ones who felt it was better to crouch around instead of saving people, but overall it was a fantastic set of matches tonight.
Curious to see how my MMR really stands up though because I rarely, if ever, survive matches, but I do as much as possible to help my team out and get them safely out the Exit Gates. Sometimes I screw up and just get steamrolled, but I usually do well on BP and at the minimum get a safety.
I remembered this one game where Nea brought a key and everyone but me got a hatch escape.
I can't help but laugh because Pinhead just stared me down while I was holding his box.
Like he thought I was being a naughty naughty.
That game was also fun, reasonably challenged without feeling frustrated at the game.
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@anarchy753 said:
There is no real reason to hide MMR except to prevent the players from seeing unbalanced lobbies.
You can say "it stops them abusing it," but legitimately, how? If people want easier matches, they just play like trash or stand afk in the corner. Not seeing a number go down doesn't stop them from doing that until they find easier matches.
From the amount of posts today alone that show yesterday's brown rank players thrown in with red rank players, I think it's pretty safe to say the same issues with absolutely unfair lobbies still exist. Even if there's "growing pains" etc while it calibrates they told us that this is using the last several months' worth of data on our gameplay, so how much is it honestly going to improve?
It's purely a PR move so that no player can show a screenshot of a lobby and say "this was unfair" without them having the option to say "oh no it was fair, it's just using secret invisible parameters that you couldn't possibly understand and that's why you got steamrolled by top tier swf."
The fact that there's been zero transparancy on how the MMR actually works (and more specifically how it differs from the rank and emblem systems that have been called broken for years) is just further indication that it's not better, just hidden.
Actually Grades no longer matter.
They're mostly an indication of your time playing the game rather than you actual skill.
Although I can see why you would still think Rank matters considering we just swapped over into an MMR system.
However, MMR has been much better for me as Killer and Survivor than the previous matchmaking system. I can now play Killers like Ghostface and Hag without fearing getting roflstomped in Red Ranks.
The majority of my games has been fun, and I've been playing pretty much nonstop since MMR came out. And that's all it should matter.
Your number shouldn't matter if you had a fun match.
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@ThiccBudhha said:
The content leaves in November, but the sale, well... You already know. Ha ha ha.
I kind of missed it too. I wanted to watch season 3 to see if I was man enough for ice cream Steve. Never got around to it.
Me too.
######### it, I'm just getting Cumogorgon.
I wanted to get everything but I was waiting for a paycheck.
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@TacitusKilgore said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2482284#Comment_2482284
Normally i'd say thats tinfoil hat conspiracy talk. but CSGO doesn't show the MMR ranking and yet everybody enjoys it and says it works well. BHVR is absolutely NOT making an MMR that good, and it would be very unsurprising if the MMR was hidden because they aren't confident in how stable it is.
In general though, I have been having better matches after it got activated.
Don't know if it is placebo, but I haven't had a complete curbstomp on either side.
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Ah yes, Temple of Purgation.
Also known as ######### Slip'n'Slide.
Get used to the slippery walls in this one since it's way more common than other maps. I think Ormond is the only other one that beats it.
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@Aven_Fallen said:
They dont want to do that. They said that their team is big enough to do both - New Content and revisiting old Content/fixing problems.
And they announced that this year will have 4 Chapters with 4 new Killers as well.
God, I wish they'd ######### stop with it being 4 chapters and 4 more killers.
We're reaching a critical mass soon enough where new Killers will just feel like bloat.
I mean has anyone seen The Twins lately as a Survivor? How about Nemesis?
Trickster maybe?
They need to slow the ######### down so we can have more quality killers and more fixes rather than pump out more content faster and faster.
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@Jplanas98 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2482219#Comment_2482219
My bad, I wasnt trying to intentionally cut off the results. From what I remember, in the top photo I had 1 kill, 2nd photo I had 2, and 3rd I had none. And yeah, while the scores seem high, keep in mind the offerings I brought.
Also, I wasnt trying to say that I'm terrible at the game, just that Im using killers Im terrible with. In the last 12 matches Ive played I probably have a total of like 15 kills.
I mean if you aren't getting any kills, then you're being bumped into the rating you should be.
Also, technically 2 kills is enough.
I've had games with no kills and 8 hooks. I've had games with 3 kills and 3 hooks.
What should erally matter is how many hooks you got as that is easier and more achieveable than always getting a 4k
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@Aneurysm said:
Spicy camera positioning
I'm especially intrigued by the game where you brought 2 perks and got 29k. I don't think I've ever got that many points from being stomped before 🤔
Your forum username is what I feel everytime I read an "MMR Sucks" post in this forum.
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No, you need to play Survivor for that.
In all seriousness, this is a known downside for MMR systems when a game hasn't had one.
Personally, I've been getting instant matches as Killer because I don't really main one and just play them on rotation.
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@Zephinism said:
Having played games managed by other companies like Blizzard, JaGeX, SEGA, ANKAMA, etc. I actually have a lot of respect for the devs at BHVR.
Blizzard with the firing hundreds of people, the sexual assaults etc. JaGeX completely ruining their game, banning innocent players etc. SEGA absolutely milking PSO2 dry after denying it from non-Japanese speakers for 8 years. ANKAMA Support replies to your ticket a year after you've created it (if they even reply).
Then you have Activision, Ubisoft and Rockstar Games which just milk players dry with rehashed nonsense. BHVR might release buggy games but have you heard of Bethesda?
Precisely.
Compared to the video game industry, BHVR isn't that awful. Their monetization efforts aren't even that bad compared to the sheer amount of ######### in CoD.