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Does the communist manifesto count?
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Im not gay but since your name is Soros i may be game if you pay me enough. 😘George_Soros said:@Gorgonia said:
You guys should kiss. Hard. Like with tongue and everything.That's gay.
However, I'm willing to do it, if only to prove how open minded I am. @ChesterTheMolester , are you game?
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Sorry but you contradict yourself there, you say its unintended that means there is no offense given, yet claim you don't justify that as if there was a crime.Gorgonia said:
I think I mentioned I never felt oppressed due to my sexuality? I’m not over sensitive myself but many of my friends are and sometimes they react badly towards unintended offenses or jokes coming from people that ignore what being gay is and how gay people feel when their sexuality/orientation is used as a joke. Not justifying them, just saying that before we get mad we need to try and educate those people.Orion said:@Gorgonia said:
I never said they shouldn’t? I’m talking about when they use gay as in “man, that’s gay” (?
That doesn’t make people ######### unless they go overboard about it knowing it can alter someone else’s peace of mind.I never said you never said they shouldn't. I said that you should speak for yourself instead of projecting, in your words, your "over sensitive" nature to the entire LGBT community.
Given that its unintended, they may need to learn to differentiate between the two, because emotions don't justify actions, no matter if you are gay or misinterpreted a joke. They are after all responsible for their own behavior. -
You did that its a result of neo nazi normalisation, i assume most of them never even heard of /pol/ nor know a neonazi, not to mention being nearly unable to understand the philosophy of national socialism.Orion said:@ChesterTheMolester said:
Orion, you did blow the topic, don't get me wrong but the alt right is what, 50k members worldwide, all in middle age or above members, take a look at them, they don't even know what Steam is.The ones using such language are most likely just kids. And since you don't know them its better to apply Hanlons razor and say that these are raised by parents that are, statistically speaking, no full blown neo nazis and simply do not watch what their kids are doing on the internet, which is how they got involved in DBD in the first place (look at Noob3's and you know who's comment section).
Im not accusing you yet of pushing an agenda but you did go full overboard in an almost hysterical way.
I made one comment on the subject of Neo Nazis in this thread. Why are you blowing it out of proportion?
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Orion, you did blow the topic, don't get me wrong but the alt right is what, 50k members worldwide, all in middle age or above members, take a look at them, they don't even know what Steam is.Orion said:@Gorgonia said:
While I never felt oppressed nor abused in any way because of my sexuality, the whole lgbtqxxx community has suffered greatly and we tend to be over sensitive when it comes to situations where being gay is used as an insult or as something derogatory or negative.No offense, but speak for yourself. I just want ######### to be held accountable for their actions.
The ones using such language are most likely just kids. And since you don't know them its better to apply Hanlons razor and say that these are raised by parents that are, statistically speaking, no full blown neo nazis and simply do not watch what their kids are doing on the internet, which is how they got involved in DBD in the first place (look at Noob3's and you know who's comment section).
Im not accusing you yet of pushing an agenda but you did go full overboard in an almost hysterical way. -
I agree, plus most of us are forum vets so we know each other a bit, we spent enough time not talking politics that we might be willing to be open minded and not "REEEEEEEE!!" the ######### out of each other.George_Soros said:@DarkWo1f997 said:
George_Soros said:@DarkWo1f997 said:
@Orion I don’t mean this in a rude or harsh way, but I don’t think your political rant has a place on the forum for an asymmetrical horror game in my humble opinion.
It's the best place for political rants. As long as we keep it civilized, it's interesting to know what the guys I play with think about politics. You say politics is very divisive. I say, with most people, if we actually listen to the other, even in the worst case we can get to that point of "agree to disagree"... and very possibly learn some new perspectives in the process.
Yes but you know what people on the internet do best, it almost never ends well. Walking on egg shells here and I think if we keep the convo related to the game the problem will
habe a much higher chance of being solved.Just forget about anything "getting solved" on any internet forum. It doesn't happen. But if there are about a dozen well thought over comments before the flames start, it's already worth it. Especially if those comments are from people you disagree with.
One small notion I kind of just realized: if you go to the comments section of some news site, forum or any other place on the web that is devoted specifically to politics, chances are, you'll find a lot of likeminded people, echoing each other's political convictions, ideas, etc. Place like a gaming forum: you can talk to all walks of life, people from different backgrounds, with different beliefs... fun, right?
I say we keep it up until Not_Queen or someone else kicks our arses off.
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#BanjoForBillyJawsIsTheNextKiller said:I'd like Hillybilly to have a rake or a banjo.
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Some kind of hilariously oversized Gladius for Trapper.
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Plot twist, i don't. Its just bait.George_Soros said:Interasting. I often can resist corecting the ones I notice in post I quote.
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🙈 🙉 🙊George_Soros said:@ChesterTheMolester said:
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George_Soros said:@sadmuffins13 said:
I dont have tolerance for people who say your gay and they mean your stupid. Just say your stupid. Black people dont like like the n word. Gays dont like the f word . like you can insult someone in so many way but choose to use sexual orientation as an insult? Pathetic...
I love using "gay" not so much as a serious insult, but as something lame, stupid, questionable. You know: not something that's completely wrong, just... not quite right.
This has to be bait right? Lmao so why not just say thats lame or stupid or questionable? Its people like you that hinder progession for equality. You look at it as something small but in reality its that type of thinking that has spread ignorance . Gay means happy if anything. So using it in that context is wrong...
Yeah it is bait. But it's also true. And it's not wrong to use it in that context. Language is based on consensus, and this word is quite widely used in this sense. Like, "I don't know man, farming is kinda gay."
It is wrong an if you cant see that then idk what to tell you.
Can you explain why? (I assume you mean it's morally wrong somehow, not grammatically.) It's just another word expressing disapproval.
At the end of the day its your life you will say and do as you please. Just stop being toxic and trying to get attention.
I feel like there is an "or else" somewhere in that last part...
Now you're the one playing a victim Chester :P
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I feel like there is an "or else" somewhere in that last part...sadmuffins13 said:
At the end of the day its your life you will say and do as you please. Just stop being toxic and trying to get attention.George_Soros said:
Can you explain why? (I assume you mean it's morally wrong somehow, not grammatically.) It's just another word expressing disapproval.sadmuffins13 said:
It is wrong an if you cant see that then idk what to tell you.George_Soros said:
Yeah it is bait. But it's also true. And it's not wrong to use it in that context. Language is based on consensus, and this word is quite widely used in this sense. Like, "I don't know man, farming is kinda gay."sadmuffins13 said:
This has to be bait right? Lmao so why not just say thats lame or stupid or questionable? Its people like you that hinder progession for equality. You look at it as something small but in reality its that type of thinking that has spread ignorance . Gay means happy if anything. So using it in that context is wrong...George_Soros said:@sadmuffins13 said:
I dont have tolerance for people who say your gay and they mean your stupid. Just say your stupid. Black people dont like like the n word. Gays dont like the f word . like you can insult someone in so many way but choose to use sexual orientation as an insult? Pathetic...I love using "gay" not so much as a serious insult, but as something lame, stupid, questionable. You know: not something that's completely wrong, just... not quite right.
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A legend.Khalednazari said: -
If you could make a case outside of sensibilities (appeal to emotion) then you may actually convince someone.sadmuffins13 said:
It is wrong an if you cant see that then idk what to tell you.George_Soros said:
Yeah it is bait. But it's also true. And it's not wrong to use it in that context. Language is based on consensus, and this word is quite widely used in this sense. Like, "I don't know man, farming is kinda gay."sadmuffins13 said:
This has to be bait right? Lmao so why not just say thats lame or stupid or questionable? Its people like you that hinder progession for equality. You look at it as something small but in reality its that type of thinking that has spread ignorance . Gay means happy if anything. So using it in that context is wrong...George_Soros said:@sadmuffins13 said:
I dont have tolerance for people who say your gay and they mean your stupid. Just say your stupid. Black people dont like like the n word. Gays dont like the f word . like you can insult someone in so many way but choose to use sexual orientation as an insult? Pathetic...I love using "gay" not so much as a serious insult, but as something lame, stupid, questionable. You know: not something that's completely wrong, just... not quite right.
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No offense but everytime there is a suggestion like this thrown around its always african american. Why not an actual african? Or afro-european?yes said:Maybe an African American girl? The only black girl we have rn is Claudette and it's nice if we had some variety.
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Wrong, in 2017 there was a bug that caused thr notification to be completely gone for several MONTHS, many people like me actually did think that its intentional and got ambushed with the fix and many people asked it to be removed. And you know what?Ryuhi said:Huntress' Lullably would almost be meta if there was no notification. Like, its still not as good as Ruin, but the fact that it would take longer for survivors to even hunt for it and cause a direct shift in momentum during the post-first-hook and possibly disrupt the core of gen rushing would make it not useless.
Its ironic because ruin + lullaby would be a good combination, but literally no killer can afford it. Perks are too important. I almost wish the two could be combined and have one of the two reworked to do something else. I play survivor 80% of the time, but gen speeds are honestly the vast majority of why I do.
It was still considered to be a mediocre to average perk at best. -
Also its BS that survivors get notified of this perk, if you watch carefully you'll still know off its presence if you fail a skillcheck even before its first token. And you can learn them.
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Only as a survivor... i still like the map though.Vietfox said:
The game map is not that bad, survivors just need to get used to it.Unnamed_Freak said:@Vietfox said:
@Unnamed_Freak said:@Vietfox said:
@Milo said:
Aka you have the game game and doctor?
Good job on you!
They picked the map OMEGALUL 😂
Wait, the survivors put the offering to the game??! Or it was the RNG being nice to ya?
They did put the offering 😂
I don't know how stupid a survivor must be to put A Meat Plant offering, I mean ain't all killers good on this map with the exception of the Trapper? Like even Freddy, LeatherFace and Legion are viable on this map.
Principally if the killer is using a Hex totem.
Unnamed_Freak said:@Vietfox said:
@Unnamed_Freak said:@Vietfox said:
@Milo said:
Aka you have the game game and doctor?
Good job on you!
They picked the map OMEGALUL 😂
Wait, the survivors put the offering to the game??! Or it was the RNG being nice to ya?
They did put the offering 😂
I don't know how stupid a survivor must be to put A Meat Plant offering, I mean ain't all killers good on this map with the exception of the Trapper? Like even Freddy, LeatherFace and Legion are viable on this map.
Principally if the killer is using a Hex totem.
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Nothing more heartbreaking to finally catch that Jake and carrying him to the basement only for him to DC... not that i can blame them.Supernaut said:@ChesterTheMolester said:
redsopine01 said:Beep me I've been moriing there butts off lol
Yeah i did do too.
I also found myself switching to Bubba whenever i saw a Jake to go full basement camp mode, they are so rare...Ha ha! That figures!
I should buff the hell out of my Jake, just so I can face Leatherface...To be fair, I did too.
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I love how after his 20th acc he finally tried not calling himself Radiant only to flag everyone who called him out (which did not take long lol).ad19970 said:@Tsulan said:
ChesterTheMolester said:As a Killer its fine, 30s max. As a survivor it takes a while though.
Where are all the survivor mains that claimed that killers have long queues because survivors quit after all the nerfs?!
I was just thinking that myself. I'll never forget that special Radiant guy clustering the forums with nonesense.
I'm not sure where he is today but if its not a mental asylum he's definitely at the wrong place.
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They should honestly just skip it and unlock them as default. It was a nice surprise at first but now its just tedious.lasombra1979 said:@ChesterTheMolester said:
redsopine01 said:Beep me I've been moriing there butts off lol
Yeah i did do too.
I also found myself switching to Bubba whenever i saw a Jake to go full basement camp mode, they are so rare...Jake is the unicorn of Bubba faces. He rarely appears in the wild.
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Yeah i did do too.redsopine01 said:Beep me I've been moriing there butts off lol
I also found myself switching to Bubba whenever i saw a Jake to go full basement camp mode, they are so rare... -
Clown x VHS porn.
You know its true. -
Playing the game obviously.Tsulan said:
Where are all the survivor mains that claimed that killers have long queues because survivors quit after all the nerfs?!ChesterTheMolester said:As a Killer its fine, 30s max. As a survivor it takes a while though.
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I still think the second point is necessary, it makes no sense to slow yourself down to slow survivors down too.White_Owl said:Trapper:
-Starts with 2 Bear Traps, one Bear Trap is removed from the map to compensate.(Buff)
-The ability to quickly reset disarmed Traps on the ground. (QoL)
-Escaping Traps is now a fixed channel, affected by perks and addons.
(QoL, i think that affects both sides positively)Good suggestions. I think it would be nice if escaping traps had skillchecks, so it would sinergise with Unnerving Presence which is a Trapper's teachable. Traps should also get a little bit bigger, it's awful when survivors can somehow circle around the trap even if the placing was perfect.
Wraith:
-Increase the Speed Burst to 1.5 seconds OR increase the Uncloak movement speed to the point where he can consistantly get close hits in the open with his speed burst after uncloaking (Buff).
-Is now completely invisible outside of 32m range (Buff / Affects SWF the most).
Not sure about the first point. It might be that I got used to him, but sneak attacks aren't hard to land atm. The second change is something I'd like since forever.
Clown:
Travel speed of bottles increased
(Many maps are painful for him because of slow travel, especially when multiple options or a lot of cover is involved)Movement slowdown and attack cooldown upon throwing is removed.
-Gas now affects pallet vaults
- Red Stain is removed while intoxicated or the Clown is within the gas himself.
I think the Clown is mostly ok. The 3rd and 4th suggestions are nice though.
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Im pretty sure it will confirm that Liberty Prime needs to be built IRL.LCGaster said:@George_Soros said:
Have you ever tried running for your life naked? VERY uncomfortable.
Don't ask me how I know.How do you know?
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As a Killer its fine, 30s max. As a survivor it takes a while though.
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#MadLadDetective_Jonathan said:Not simply because i want to dodge killers that play scummy, but just so i can play against said scummy killers and run them the whole game.
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I know, and i haven't said that it should happen. They will be dealt with when reported, so do it so they learn their lesson, however DBD gets a constant amount of new players and banned ones making new accounts, keeping it under control is a sisyphean task.Gorgonia said:
Of course I cannot control what someone else says, but that doesn’t mean I should accept it nor that it shouldn’t be punished if it goes against the rules and the code of conduct.ChesterTheMolester said:
Feel free to ask that, its fruitless.Gorgonia said:I’m a bit impressed at how many of you ask for the victim to suck it up, to toughen up instead of addressing the real problem. Why do we naturalize hate speech and behaviour? Why do I have to learn to live with hate? Why doesn’t the bully have to learn to live with respect towards others?
Everything grows in its ideal enviroment, either the kids have been raised badly by #########, or holier-than-thou parents, whose kids are naturally programmed to rebel as teens.
We cannot control all of humanity, its impossible, we can only control our own reactions and MAYBE parents that are close enough.
So when i say its better for them to report and move on, instead of spending their valuable time and effort on them, its not normalizing it, its just an honest advice how to deal with that. And you might have to toughen up, sure it sucks but so does a predator that gets outclassed by its prey and starves. -
Feel free to ask that, its fruitless.Gorgonia said:I’m a bit impressed at how many of you ask for the victim to suck it up, to toughen up instead of addressing the real problem. Why do we naturalize hate speech and behaviour? Why do I have to learn to live with hate? Why doesn’t the bully have to learn to live with respect towards others?
Everything grows in its ideal enviroment, either the kids have been raised badly by #########, or holier-than-thou parents, whose kids are naturally programmed to rebel as teens.
We cannot control all of humanity, its impossible, we can only control our own reactions and MAYBE parents that are close enough.
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Well i respect that kind of persistence, good luck, i really hope you are getting it to work even if the chances are bad.DarkWo1f997 said:
Maybe so, but I really don’t want to give up on it yet. I’ll find some way.ChesterTheMolester said:Im sorry to say that but the game has been designed with sound being an important aspect in mind. I don't see a way to change it without heavy unintended side effects, even putting aside how much time, money and effort will have to be spend to make that work. DBD might not be for her anymore. -
It does not break any rule and it is intentional.
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If that is a result off all those bob sporting ######### threatening you to talk to your manager for doing your job correctly then i understand.
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Exactly, no point spending valuable time, report and move on. If they can't handle insults on the internet (which they know is getting taken care off) have fun having a complete mental breakdown once they realize that for example, the job market is as stable ss Michael J. Fox on a pogostick.George_Soros said:I'm generally on the view that whoever finds a bit of insults in online gaming too much to bear, should toughen up. Jesus, it's just words.
BUT. I'd say any kind of abusive language, vulgarities, regardless whether it's homophobic/racist or just general trash talk should result in a warning first, and a (temporary!) ban or other consequences (I'd love to see some of the most obnoxious players' favourite P3 character progress reset... just a suggestion
).And it's not to protect those who are insulted. Things that are so much worse are going to happen to you. If you can't handle some insults from random keyboard warriors, good luck in RL.
No. It is for the offensive one. Being an [BAD WORD] is not ok, but if someone's not punished for it, they'll keep being #########. That's just how we are.
Still don't see a point in making a difference between "homophobic" and, umm, "regular" (?) trash talk.
And to your last point, i think some just wanna pretend that its more than it actually is to further their agenda, its already prohibited but everything bad that is a result of your emotonal reaction is up to you, its as simple as that.
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No one asked it to be basekit, and it looks like BHVR scrapped the idea anyway so don't bring it up, no reason to blow up the thread.thesuicidefox said:You don't need Kindred as a solo player. I've been playing No Mither, without aura/info perks, at rank 1 all month. SOLO. And I've escaped plenty of times, and if not I am almost always the last to die.
STOP ASKING FOR KINDRED IN BASE KIT. You really don't need it.
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Its the internet, its easier to ignore or report someone and impossible to show some strength, which is the only thing such people respect in RL (Especially those ######### talking on the internet, what strength do these kids have anyway?).Attackfrog said:@DarkWo1f997 said:
The better question is, why exactly are you letting it get to you?I believe there is some truth in what you are saying.
Remember being a kid and a bully would call you names and parents or teachers would say "ignore them, they are just trying to make.you mad".
When it comes to namecalling, I totally agree.
I feel that real hate speech goes beyond just calling someone a name but includes some call to action (ie: let's beat this guy up or don't let this person in)
There is truth to it, its easy to just report it and move on, they are not able to follow you nor are any threat of your physical wellbeing.
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Not just that, its handy to know where pallets are getting scarce, like the main building for example, so you can avoid getting caught there.Milo said:You can also run Alert.
It's more "where is dat killer" info but still good info nonetheless -
I know you probably just meant this thread to be a kind of PSA for solos, and i agree that "Info-Perks" are underrated by so many, but this is definitely going to spark another SWF shitshow.
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Not sure how its where you live in Germany there have been no real news pretty much regardless what the media says.Attackfrog said:@Poweas said:
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@Orion said:
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I find it bonkers that people still call people that. Is it the 1994?No, but with Neo Nazi movements on the rise, they're trying to normalize it.
Is that really happening? I am in the US and I haven't heard about neo Nazis in years!
UK it's going wild. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46785357.
Bloody hell people are crazy nowadays.Jeez that's bonkers....on one end of the spectrum you have people being offended over the tiniest things, and on the other end you have religious/hate groups killing and hating people for whatever reason.
Whole world is seriously borked and needs a patch/rework!
Lol. The world needs some serious thinking though, the ######### that people say over politics.
Politics itself needs a rework (at least here in america)!
Why is it I have to choose between the crooked Democrat or the crooked republican...when neither of them can/will do anything about the real problems facing our country (our food, our healthcare and our entertainment "industry").
Lol...I should go live in Antarctica....but I wouldn't get good internet.
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That'd be hard to balance as the great skillchecks increase gen progression to insane speeds, however its the first time i heard of an Hex Perk for survivors that benefit them at the risk of getting removed, its interesting.whammigobambam said:A hex totem that triggers non-stop skill checks for healing and gen repairing but allows wider great skill areas.
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Oh boy where do i start with this NPC response.Acromio said:Freddy is by far the worst killer in Dead by Daylight. The only real purpose of his power is to remove the hindrance he has by default (can't interact with survivors), and he gets cucked by the most used perks in the game (Self care, Sprint burst and Adrenaline). He's the only killer that has to give a up to 9.5 seconds head start to his targets, who can, by the way, keep doing whatever they were doing right in his face without him being able to do anything about it. He's even less than your regular M1 killer (like the Doctor or the Trapper). He has a laughable stealth and the most basic-ass offense you can think of, that pretty much only kinda works if the survivors ignore him during the transition. He's so bad that he can't even camp properly. He can't even secure a kill. He has no way to stop/punish hookrushing, bad positioning or stupid plays by survivors in general. And, as we all know, killers win if the survivors play non-optimally or if they make silly mistakes... I don't think you people realize that Freddy is the only killer that can't capitalize on these situations. No matter how you "mindgame" survivors you still have to wait 7 seconds to hit them. If a survivor is anything but braindead, they will run to the nearest pallet/loop, and proceed to loop you for 5 generators.
Every other killer is far better than Freddy, because they don't take nearly as [BAD WORD] long to take action against survivors.
His transition time is a quirk at best, only a downside in niche situations, most survivors won't get hit in 7 seconds, especially not when they got sprint burst, so that perk is virtually meaningless against him, and if you approached them without the intent to start an immediate chase then they'll waste it. Bad news for them. And the thing with self care is that you want them to get it, either as an opportunity or have them heal up as a time waste, they won't hide anyway. And he does counter BT as the lullaby does not count as a TR, which punishes hookrushing.
The rest is pure reflection, the fact you put "mindgames" in quotation marks and then complain that 5 gen chases are anywhere near frequent just shows that you just hold W as if your finger got stuck on that key and expect to win with minimal thought process.
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It is and they will.
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A classic.Larcz said:
Stachu Jones respectChesterTheMolester said:SirPiggy said:Why is everyone bitching about me having 1 post? this is the first time I made a thread and I will make more in the future, making suggestions and ideas.
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Has a few reasons, mainly the meta which some people follow so religiously that if they had their way would have you executed for blasphemy if you dare not take them, especially in games like CSGO and DBD.Ray_Penber said:Literally the last few matches the killer has had noed. Why not use blood warden for end game potential. -
Why buy them when you will most likely get them playing normally anyway?Cardgrey said:@NoShinyPony said:
@Gonzalo said:
Is the event gonna be same as survivors doing another collecting something objective?
And killers hooking survivors on event hooks?It seems there won't be any event hooks. The devs made a post here in the forum:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/40632/moonrise-lunar-new-year-event-announcement#latestHate to say it but I’ll buy what I want and destroy anyone in my way as I don’t care about the cosmetics lol
Unless you wanna donate to BHVR i guess.
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Sabotage skillchecks won't wake you up.
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If everyone agrees to then yes. Its also no problem if you farm with just 3 if you let him alone.corpionS said:So I'm guessing I'm taking a 24-hour ban
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Off topic.
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Use the bloody coil and bloodhound to make it 10x harder to clean it. The endgame chat is priceless.RoKrueger said:
Never thought about it. I will try that built. ThanksChesterTheMolester said:
Or just take Thrill of the Hunt or Haunted Grounds as Trapper, put a bear trap on it and defend it, many survivors easily get baited into believing its something important, get hellbent into destroying it only to realize it was just Toth.MyNamePete said:It's also really satisfying when those sURviVors cleanse that fresh haunted grounds
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You'd think that but in reality it works.KillerRaccoon said:
Survivors are notified you have H:TotH when they cleanse a Dull or Hex Totem. Eventually they’ll figure out that you only have H:TotH.ChesterTheMolester said:
Or just take Thrill of the Hunt or Haunted Grounds as Trapper, put a bear trap on it and defend it, many survivors easily get baited into believing its something important, get hellbent into destroying it only to realize it was just Toth.MyNamePete said:It's also really satisfying when those sURviVors cleanse that fresh haunted grounds
Gets you quite the amount of salt too.
Kinda like bumping a locker as LF to bait survivors out with your tantrum.
It sounds stupid but works 8/10 times.
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Yes.
If everyone farms, like an untold agreement then its allowed, however if you decide to gang up on a person, team up with the Killer or kill your team for WGLF tokens then its bannable.