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@TigerSnake said:
It’s funny. They hurt solo que with the killer buffs, then help them out a little with the HUD updates, only to screw them over again with healing changes. Shame. For every step forward BHVR takes, they end up taking two backwards.
Are we REALLY surprised? I mean they did nerf Billy after all
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@Wexton said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3381559#Comment_3381559
I run this dumb pseudo hex build on Freddy, it's a really weird build and it's kinda bad but I use it anyways because I get way more value out of it then you'd think. I use hex thrill of the hunt, hex face the darkness, pop goes the weasel, and jolt.
I run Nancy's masterpiece and z block as the addon's, honestly this build works surprisingly well for how dumb it is.
I have a survivor build I LOVE running cause it's effective. I use Reactive Healing and you can go many different routes depending on playstyle but because I like medkit endurance, I use Botany and Built to Last. I kid you not, Reactive procced twice and I healed in 2 seconds. Get you a decent medkit that has a fair amount of charges and healing speed and watch out.
(Hemorrhage and Plauge counter the build.)
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@Remedicist said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3381559#Comment_3381559
Would you believe me if I said I use Insidious in my builds and get excited when I get value out of it every once in a while?
Oh I believe you. Trust me, I get super happy to earn Reactive Healing value
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@Seraphor said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3381561#Comment_3381561
I dunno, this doesn't happen when only killers are nerfed.
Definitely not true
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@TigerSnake said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3364418#Comment_3364418
As if “shift W predrop” takes skill….
As if holding people hostage with 3 gen takes skill...
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As someone who mains Gweneth Paltrow, her power is essentially held hostage against good survivors. She will never get a corrupt pool outside her 1 that spawns in Narnia until endgame unless they over cleanse and force fountain reset. If you can handle being injured all game, you win
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@solidhex said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3379028#Comment_3379028
GoP isn't even a good perk to begin with
Since when?
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I'm calling it a party game whether you like it or not. It only became competitive to this level because you all as a community manifested it to be as such.
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@Pulsar Moments like this are why I have Spotify on my ps4. I switch to my playlist and ignore people's weird power trip activity. Somehow the song of BlackOut makes me feel powerful and hot
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@Chilli_man2400 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3379866#Comment_3379866
And the fact that Blight, Spirit and Michael get to keep there overpowered addons show they have a bias against Billy
The way Mr Mookle can mori someone with 0 hooks is fine but fast Billy is not. Wild honestly
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I've been saying this. When I saw the Billy nerf, I immediately was like "But Alc ring is fine?"
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The healing nerf IS a buff to Twins and all killers baseline. However I'm not sure why Twins are brought up when Billy is weaker and is getting straight up nerfed
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@Chomperka said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3378927#Comment_3378927
Maybe, not a problem for me to admit it, but why game continue to put me against them? How can you explain that?
Is that even a question? If you've been around since early DBD, then you'd know matchmaking is always an issue and every attempt to remedy it does nothing except make it worse. You're getting these unfun matched because of the nature of how matchmaking is. MMR is the most ineffective thing considering how easy it is to inflate your MMR to be in higher level lobbies
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I knew something was up. The previous glyphs were easy to do. But all the sudden, I hit the kill check and it's considering missing
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@Ἥφαιστος said:
Twitter, official dbd forums and Reddit they are flooding spam messages with rage and entitlement. I'm praying the mods dealing with them Asap.
You guys as killers are doing the same things also. Let's not pretend and gaslight as if you guys weren't raging over DH constantly
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Anyways, y'all want to talk about favorite builds?
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But Hag isn't getting nerfed at all. Her biggest weakness was CoH constant healing and Flashlights. Both of those aren't going to be a problem and she has a counter outside of crouching everywhere.
She was only rough because of how easy healing is against her
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Because the meta shake ups aren't exactly a shake up. It's trading 1 meta perk for a slight weaker one in the same concept. (DS for OTR in 2nd chance, Pop/Ruin for CoB and Overcharge).
The meta is simply exchanging perks to supplement the same concepts but slightly weaker.
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@ironblade said:
It's good that you're nerfing Dead Hard, but now it's time to Nerf Sprint Burst and Lithe too before it becomes meta. Smash Hit is fine because that actually takes skill to use instead of fast vaulting a window with lithe or wait it out with sprint burst.
Ah yes the perk that has value if the doesn't respect pallets meaning denying value is considered skillful. How amusing
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@Devil_hit11 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3379984#Comment_3379984
Killers lost 150% regression from COB and OC nerfs. They also lose Pain res. Survivor will easily still heal 4 times with a single med-kit using Build to last perk. Killers have to find new perks as their previous ones were killed.
Strawman argument. Base healing got nerfed as well as every aspect of healing not even taking into consideration hemorrhage and mangled
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@irnbru said:
They demand refunds, they demand reverts but they keep wanting more and more killer nerfs. You got exactly what you wanted and this is how you return the favor to bhvr? You got what you wanted, stop crying.
I love it when some random person online is trying to read me because of a few bad apples. Us v them threads are old and your tone of voice makes me think you have similar entitlement as well
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In my experience, a lot of Janes are usually the ones doing the most for altruism. Then again, I am biased cause Jane main. I like my lesser main but God she's annoying and bad as killer
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@Count_Dooki said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/369195/dead-hard
Most killer mains weren’t even asking for another DH nerf.
Uh sure babes
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@Akumakaji said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/369195/dead-hard
People have always claimed that SB would be the next meta after DH and that killer mains would course their own words, because "SB is actually stronger then DH!!!1", but frankly, I don't see it. In the short, wounderful period right after 6.1, when DH disappeared with a bang, we had a fun time of many experiments. People used all kind of builds, tried out old, rusted and crusted perks, just to see if they could fiddle around with them and, yes, peeps used ALL kind of exhaustion perks.
During this time SB did't rear its ugly head as the bringer of the apocalypse, because getting value out of sprintburst, besides quickly bursting away from a gen that you had 30s time to regain your exhaustion, its not that easy to use, Lithe is much more plug and play, and maintaining a 99% SB is the sort of high skill play that you see very, very rarely.
The thing is this: even if everyone would be running SB, Fixation and Vigilance, this would still be far, far, faaaaaaar less aggrevating and obnoxious then DH, because its the nature of the perk to be front loaded, ie all its power is spend at the start of a chase, so the killer can evaluate if its worth pursuing that survivor or not, its not a nasty surprise 45-60s into a chase, literally taking away all your progress in the 7 frames before you would reap your benefits. And a survivor cornered can't suddenly pull a SB out of their behind and get a shot at sprinting away EVERY SINGLE TIME (at least unless they 99% it for the whole chase), nor do you have to waste time and play stupid mindgames in the open EVERY SINGLE TIME with EVERY SINGLE SURVIVOR or risk an embarressing blunder.
So call doom and gloom and the SB apocalypse all you want, it won't be happening. Oh there will of course be a few lonely lost souls who will cry for a nerf, thats just a givin with practically everything, but you won't be seeing 40+ threads all lamenting the same unfun playstyle that DH promoted, I guranteed it! And if it happens, please quote me and I will eat my words.
I want to believe you but considering the fact people went after CoB was ew
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I'm pissed cause I always said CoB was good before the Ruin gut. They probably only nerfed it because Skunk Merchant exists
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Not my bbg Technician that I never actually ran once outside adept
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@Caiman said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3381464#Comment_3381464
But +10% crouched movement speed! PIggy will scoot faster than she's ever scooted before!
I know it's a joke but I'd argue she should get a buff to ambush since her stealth is negligible
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@HugTechLover said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3380998#Comment_3380998
Sooooo your arguement is we have two perks…. 1 that literally GLOWS and shows you how to get rid of it, and another than can be completely rid of in the first 15 seconds of the game?
Get over yourself.
I literally saw someone cleanse a Noed totem near hook and I got unhooked cause bodyblocking went wrong. No real danger happened
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I'm only annoyed at Billy's nerf and the slap in face addon buffs they did while actively not buffing Pig
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@Chocolate_Cosmos said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3381432#Comment_3381432
I should put more skill points into that.
You got time to learn. Personally I engage in stuff cause I find people's serious entitlement funny
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@Bartlaus said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/369253/1-question
Since I've been back on the forums, 80% of all threads have been complaints about DH and Gen Kick Meta. Now that the devs have addressed those exact points, people are still going crazy. Why? Because only one side should be buffed or nerfed. Entitlement at its finest. But, you know what? DBD has died so many "deaths", any cat would be jealous... 😅
Cats could never hope to experience many deaths
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@MrPeanutbutter said:
If you can figure out a way to counter auto DH scripts, let me know
You're comparing a perk to a cheat. That's not the same thing but go off
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@RhodosGuard said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3369132#Comment_3369132
Couldnt find anything about stbfl in the patchnotes
And was brutal strength really relevant? The time is still enought to be blinded while breaking.
Meanwhile Survivors got BT.
They got faster hit recovery after hitting a survivor which equates to 2 stacks of stbfl at base on top of other changes for chase mechanics
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@The_C12H15NO2 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3369132#Comment_3369132
No. It was 10% action speed buff which ended up being 0.25 seconds quicker. comparing the base buff to these action speeds to the perks is ridiculous.
Right but that means faster breaking actions and in addition to that, faster bloodlust and less speed boost for survivors after being hit. A lot of things became basekit changes so let's not
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@burt0r said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3369648#Comment_3369648
Who cares about us vs them posts. Ignore them. 😜
Right but like some of them are funny tho. This wasn't but a lot of them embarrass themselves and it's pure entertainment
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@VirtuaTyKing said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3371548#Comment_3371548
Good for you. I was only dishing back. I know it can be frustrating. I had a pair earlier looking at each other nodding not even playing really until it was too late.
Mmm
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@RhodosGuard said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3371026#Comment_3371026
Which side is currently so ridiculously underplayed, that they have that +100% Bloodpoints bonus almost 24/7?
Maybe it is time Survivors get nerfed?
I am just saying. Considering the fact that they got BT for free and have that really unfun to play against version of DH now, Survivors seem awefully insistent on getting even more basekit perks.
Survivors a lot of the time have bp bonus. But it's region based not amount of players dependant in general.
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@RhodosGuard said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3369138#Comment_3369138
But games are supposed to be fun. If you keep stuffing survs with basekit perks while they already have advantage at each interaction, it stops being fun for killers. And it feels like for every corn killers are thrown, survivors get access to the granary.
I get that this is an asymmetric game, but there has to be a reason, that the Blood Point Bonus is on Killery 90% of the time.
It's an "us vs them" topic, because it's asymmetric, how can it not be, when everytime survivors cry that killers are "doing something toxic" they get thrown some basekit perks, but when Killers have problems it's just "play meta perks lol"
I dont want to have overwhelming advantage, but I'd like it, if I wasnt simply ######### backwards for playing a certain killer or without certain perks or addons.
If you are fine with the game as is, cool for you, but some people would actually like an experience where their skill is more important for winning, than whether or not enemy survs will let you have fun or not, more important than whether you have leveled the correct killers so you have the correct perks to actually win with.
The reason this is an "us vs them" is because BHVR are clearly favoring 1 side and I am pretty sure it's not killers.
They aren't favoring any side at all. They're implementing the changes you guys have been whining about for months. Regression perk check, Iron Will DS DH nerf, etc. This is a us v them post because you're essentially whining about 1 side getting changes while ignoring the changes killers got just to cry about entitled survivors.
I'm so sick of how much a narrative you guys force into the forums just to cope with your own sense of entitlement.
(Also survivors haven't been getting stuffed with basekit perks at all. They only got BT that had to be extended cause hm tunnel harder with haste because y'all forced the situation to happen so no stuffing of basekit perks)
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@RhodosGuard said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3369132#Comment_3369132
Couldnt find anything about stbfl in the patchnotes
And was brutal strength really relevant? The time is still enought to be blinded while breaking.
Meanwhile Survivors got BT.
So what if it's relevant? You still got those basekit perks that stack on top of the actual perks.
Also ask yourself why survivors got basekit BT especially when DS got nerfed.
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@VirtuaTyKing said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3370513#Comment_3370513
Yeah run off to your boon far across the map but don't worry I will be efficient at least.
I'm not here to bicker btw I was just curious to the reasons.
Many have give their reason some of which make no sense to me but you all do you.
If you even knew me, you'd know I hate boons. Also you're not here to bicker yet you decided to say that. I will not rely on useless randoms to do simple jobs y'all will somehow fail.
I have my own effective build that doesn't require any of you to screw it up
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@VirtuaTyKing said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3369891#Comment_3369891
I will remember that next time you want a quick heal and the killer is coming back for you.
I'm not dumb enough to stay in an area knowing the killer would come back. I actually have game knowledge. You just proved my point
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@EvilSerje said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3369275#Comment_3369275
Ahahahaha!) Poor poor killers. They only win 90% of matches, that's so unfair. Now I understand why all survivors die that fast, it a compassionate gesture.
Was this even necessary to say? Like was the goal to annoy this person or what?
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@Jurizaurz said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3369900#Comment_3369900
It compares since it quickly turnes matches from normal 4 vs 1 into holding the game hostage by making it 3 or even worse - 2 vs 1.
Most killers know they can't reach that side so they turn their asses into those who play normally.
And what about killer side? As soon as 2 survivors get up there, they can hold the game hostage for a killer as long as they want and the only option for killer would be just simple disconnecting. I've seen that once, 2 survivors picked that map offering on purpose, then were staying there for 25+ minutes, I got bored watching all this but killer couldn't do anything and I felt sorry for the killer because of such players.
So if this is about the Ormond thing, then how does it compare to literally not being able to see the killer at all? I'm not saying it shouldn't get looked at but trying to compare it to not being able to see the killer and actually play the game differs from a glitch that a lot of people don't even abuse
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@Xendritch said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3369917#Comment_3369917
What did I disregard? Also all I did originally was pose a question and you're first response was literally "don't be obtuse" straightaway so when the default response is to go straight to being passive aggressive that doesn't really seem like a good sign. But it's whatever it's not my job to be your parent and I'm done with this conversation now, I'm just saying defaulting to that kind of response is rarely going to lead to productive conversation.
And I'm saying putting words in mouth and demanding I owe you something isn't going to net you a positive response. Look at yourself before trying to diagnose me.
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@Xendritch said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3369911#Comment_3369911
Because you're idea of a conversation to you just seems to be say whatever you want and if the person suggests it might be wrong you just ignore it and deflect and decide to be passive aggressive instead. It's not entitlement to expect an answer to a question that's literally just how communication works lmao.
You expected me to answer your weird questions over a simple statement and got defensive that I don't owe you an answer. Also if you want a conversation, don't intentionally disregard the statement I made then put words in my mouth and get hot and bothered that I'm not going to respond to you syurpy sweet
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@BlueRose said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3369889#Comment_3369889
Ahh yeah, that part I agree with you. Killswitch =/= Delete. Tho I did see rework was mention some of the posts and that is why I said what I said because I do think to complete rework = delete. I know in other games reworks do lead ppl feeling like their fav thing gets deleted from the game. For example, I play Final Fantasy 14 where my fav job/class was completely reworked this current expac. For me, it completely felt like my fav job was deleted from the game and made me find another job/class to play. Anyway, I do agree with your point of killswitching something doesn't mean it's getting deleted from the game.
Thank you. I understand that kill switching with idea of a rework is different than normal. But some people can't grasp the idea that kill switch isn't deletion even after giving an example of actual deletion
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@Xendritch said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3369905#Comment_3369905
All I did was point out that people were not suggesting a simple killswitch and it was more involved than that and you started malding and being passive aggressive. I tried explaining it and you called it a strawman to deflect anything I was actually saying, I don't think you know how to have a conversation but that's okay cuz you're right in that there's no point in continuing.
Also don't lie just to justify yourself. Making stuff up just to argue shows your quality of character
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Isn't it a bit hypocritical for you cry passive aggression and malding when you were practically demanding I owe you answers to a question like your my legal guardian? Also I do know how to hold a conversation. I will not hold one with a random person online that's twisting my words intentionally and demanding I argue with them while strawmanning me. Calm the entitlement and audacity and then I'll converse with you
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@Xendritch said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3369896#Comment_3369896
But it's not just a killswitch that people are suggesting? I have to assume you're just actively choosing to not to understand that at this point cuz it's not that hard.
Bro just stop already. I said a basic statement about the act of kill switching not being deletion. I'm going to assume you're desperate for my attention cause there's not way a sane person cares this much over a basic statement that's not even harmful
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Is this about the rock glitch on Ormond? Cause a glitch like that doesn't compare to a killer that can hit and down you while literally being invisible. Not saying Ormond shouldn't get kill switched but a rock glitch isn't that same as someone being invisible and having a whole advantage simply by using a power