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great idea!! instead of having people whine and complain about "too many" or "too few", give them some semblance of control over it.
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I definitely agree that while the mechanic would be similar, they are two very different games at this point... yes, some killers have a hard time with some survivors... but if they really want to feel like the survivors are "too OP" they should go play f13 for a bit... they'll see how good they have it here.
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the only reason I want the killers to be able to hear it is for situations where a survivor accidentally gives up part of their plan because they were too stupid to stop talking when the heartbeat kicks in.Visionmaker said:Avariku said:I've mentioned this idea before and it always seems to get shot down, but I still don't fully understand why.
if they had an in-game comms system that operated by radius(only able to speak to/hear those close to you) it would fix a lot of the issue.
players couldn't convey information from across the map as easily, they would have to shut up when the killer is nearby (realistic), and it would open comms up for non-swf players as well.
yes there would be toxicity issues, but that's what a mute/report function would be used for.People claim it'd be too much like F13. Which I disagree with since they're two completely different things, with the whole beating the killer to a pulp aspect...Voice comms will certainly improve the solo survivor experience. I'd play solo survivor more if I could figure out what SWFs/solo survivors were thinking of doing.I just don't think killers should hear what survivors are saying. It *might* get overly toxic then.
killer comes up on two working on the gens and one says something like, "yea, terry is off looking for the hex totem while we finish this up"
or the killer loses his chase and starts to head back to a gen when he hears a survivor talking nearby, its immersion, the survivor should know to stay quiet when the killer is nearby.
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I've mentioned this idea before and it always seems to get shot down, but I still don't fully understand why.
if they had an in-game comms system that operated by radius(only able to speak to/hear those close to you) it would fix a lot of the issue.
players couldn't convey information from across the map as easily, they would have to shut up when the killer is nearby (realistic), and it would open comms up for non-swf players as well.
yes there would be toxicity issues, but that's what a mute/report function would be used for. -
don't you think some offerings like this might help alleviate "some" of the toxicity... I would absolutely use this offering, regardless of playing killer or survivor.KingB said:If the community wasn't so toxic I would love this idea. -
honestly I've noticed similar issues on xbone... so I doubt it's a hardware issue, though I could be wrong.
other things I often do is to reset my modem before even trying to play dbd. it doesn't always make much of a difference, but sometimes it seems to. (could be a placebo effect. xD ) -
The only thing that keeps Hex:Ruin from being OP is the ridiculous totem spawns that are often too close to a survivor spawn.
with that said, I actually do like the idea that each survivor would have their own correlating totem. However, all totems should remain visible to other survivors as well, it would be an altruistic thing.
I'm in a match and realize Hex:Ruin is in play, yes I can look for my totem only and remove my Hex, but it would be a good idea to break any totem I see to help my fellow survivors (which would help me escape too in the long run)
this would further stall the game for the killer and would eliminate "some" of the totem spawn issues. -
These stats don't support my opinions so the entire thing is flawed and proves nothing.
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Oh yea, lobby sim DLC is absolutely the best addition to the game.
but, it keeps getting interrupted by games, could we maybe get an extension for the lobby? 15-20 minutes just isn't enough time to twiddle my thumbs a full 6,000 times. -
just wish you didn't have to be within the killers radius for so long to use it, I'd prefer a cooldown or something. but otherwise I think it's a great perk.
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perhaps the camping issue is different depending on platform. I play on xbox one and I'm rank 10... I have seen camping only get worse as my rank gets higher and I have friends at higher ranks who complain about camping.Malakir said:
first, since when camping is prevalent? Unless you are around rank 20-12 you won't find many campers at all. At least for my experience, never saw it. Just once at rank 6 but that guy got 8k bp, maybe that survivor owned him money, idkAvariku said:Malakir said:
still people can't understand noed works by survivor mistakes to no cleanse totems. I've lost count of matches where noed didn't worked when practicing nurse. DS just rewards a mistake and cannot be preventing kicking an objectiveMegMain98 said:@Malakir said:
MegMain98 said:@MegMain98 said:
There wouldn’t be all this whining and complaining from BOTH sides if DS and NOED were both removed entirely. NOED would be removed before DS since DS directly ties into the “Adept Laurie” achievement so in all reality it isn’t going anywhere.
I just wish both perks were gone from the game. I don’t personally have a problem with either of them despite people calling them “crutch perks” but all this crybaby nonsense from both sides about DS and NOED is getting a little bit old. @Wolf74 said: @MegMain98 said:
There wouldn’t be all this whining and complaining from BOTH sides if DS and NOED were both removed entirely.
So you want to put a well balanced perk like Noed in the same level as a frickin broken thing like DS?
Gotcha.
Screw balance, screw logic … survivor need to be protected from nasty surprises, because it's a horror game and that could scare them … #########?
Well balanced enough for you to want to put it in the killers base kit? Sure...whatever you say.
It’s barely a horror game, there is no element of suprise and when you get hit with NOED it isn’t a genuine scare factor. It’s more like “Oh...okay, that just happened for the eighth time tonight.”
I said what I said, I meant what I said and you heard what I said. My stance on NOED and DS has not changed and it probably never will.
The game isn’t balanced on either side. It is PVP, this will never EVER be a true horror experience simply because it is PVP and you can’t have the killers side be incredibly powerful as if it was an AI.
you forgot something. 1 its asymmetrical or should be 2 noed is an hex
the second point invalidates your ds noed comparison. Just imagine hex totems doesn't exist, in that case I would agree
Yes it is asymmetrical and the killer SHOULD have the power role but the killer can’t be untouchable. In a PvP game it’ll never be a true horror game. If they added a single player game mode then maybe it would but I doubt that will happen. I don’t really consider DBD to be a horror game to begin with. I put in it the same boat that I do F13, but extremely great party games to play with friends but when you play it alone you get drained out quickly especially if you take the game too seriously.
Some perks would be way overpowered without it being a hex unless you had competent teammates. Ruin and Devor Hope come to mind easily. Matches would end with five generators left and a four man mori.
It’s just getting old that people are still arguing over DS and NOED. Just saying if they were both gone there would be no complaining. Although killers can’t do without their precious little insta-downs. I would say the same with survivors not being able to do without their free escapes but I don’t see many people stick up for DS nor do I run into it a lot as killer but 80% of the time killers have NOED. It gives bad killers a kill because when there is four survivors left and you insta-down one of them, why would you go and chase the other three? There isn’t any point, you won’t get a four man. The killer killed that ONE person due to an insta-down and that is how MOST of the time NOED works. DS gives bad survivors a free escape. Both perks makes up for the players mistakes.
I always do around 2-3 totems per march and if my mates do the same(lately more often) noed don't even proc.
"It gives a bad killers kills" maybe you should phase it like, punish lazy survivors who just wanna genrush when totems grants bp and boldness. Like, it even gives you points and you still cry about noed when its you fault you won't adapt
I know its a weird word but seriously, adapt. Noed is more frequent? Instead of ignoring totems just cleanse if you see some. Noed is the last perk I have a problems with as survivor and it actually bothers me that people like you cry about it, you know why? Because you guys are the kind of people who won't cleans them when you are in my team, then cry about it.
This sentence really nothers me for these reasons: "Both perks makes up for the players mistakes"
Which is a lie to have an excuse to don't adapt and press one button to 1) prevent a perk 2) free bp 3) free bold points
"free bp" as if ignoring gens to work on totems isn't a terrible idea anyway with the current strategy of camping being prevalent.
even without camping this puts the survivors at a slight disadvantage and potentially wastes time that isn't needed.
but DS which is a ONE TIME USE skill is somehow overpowered?
personally I don't care about either perk, I'll adjust to them as I need... but to hear the killer/survivor mains whining over their respective sides is ridiculous and the comparison between the two perks is annoying.
I'm with the others... remove both so the whining can stop.
I won't removed either, DS would be great if reworked. I gave even an idea time ago to make it a fun perk for both sides. I'd like to see it like a tool to survive but no like it is right now. Noed, same thing as I said, if you won't cleanse take the blame to yourself. 18s isn't such a big deal especially when people ask for other obj cuz the games are going too fast but ignoring totems (#########?)
I don't main either, i play both even if mostly survivor since its more relaxing and can watch videos while repairing. Just "wasted time that isn't needed", I know you might love gen rush but even if I hate repeat myself, Adapt!
If even a bad evader like me can survive and get rid of noed at the same time doing at least 2 gens per game, anybody can
and this isn't just an occasional thing... its 3/5 matches easily.
and I can honestly understand camping toxic survivors, its the only time I can condone such a thing... but I am far from a toxic player, I'm not even good enough to annoy them with loops.
I'm the stealthy one that just hopes to go unnoticed.
also, 18s isn't that big of a deal except that its NOT just 18s. there's additional time to be considered when you are looking for the totems and dealing with traps or nearby killers. -
Malakir said:"So please, Killers on the forums, stop being cruel to us Survivors. Don't tell us to gitgud, cos there's a cap on how gud we can git so that you can also have an enjoyable game!"
Its actually the other way around, unless you are against the nurse.
Killers capitalize to survivors mistakes not the other way around. If a killer play perfectly and a survivor play perfectly, the survivor win. In a 1v1 situation, which is crazy in a 4v1 game. The actual limit you talk about isn't for survivors but for killers since survivors dictate the clock the killer have during the march.
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if I dodged every lobby that dipped into the red I might as well drop the game... almost all of my games are yellow/orange, dipping into red and then settling back at yellow/orange.
once a night a might get one green game.
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Malakir said:
still people can't understand noed works by survivor mistakes to no cleanse totems. I've lost count of matches where noed didn't worked when practicing nurse. DS just rewards a mistake and cannot be preventing kicking an objectiveMegMain98 said:@Malakir said:
MegMain98 said:@MegMain98 said:
There wouldn’t be all this whining and complaining from BOTH sides if DS and NOED were both removed entirely. NOED would be removed before DS since DS directly ties into the “Adept Laurie” achievement so in all reality it isn’t going anywhere.
I just wish both perks were gone from the game. I don’t personally have a problem with either of them despite people calling them “crutch perks” but all this crybaby nonsense from both sides about DS and NOED is getting a little bit old. @Wolf74 said: @MegMain98 said:
There wouldn’t be all this whining and complaining from BOTH sides if DS and NOED were both removed entirely.
So you want to put a well balanced perk like Noed in the same level as a frickin broken thing like DS?
Gotcha.
Screw balance, screw logic … survivor need to be protected from nasty surprises, because it's a horror game and that could scare them … #########?
Well balanced enough for you to want to put it in the killers base kit? Sure...whatever you say.
It’s barely a horror game, there is no element of suprise and when you get hit with NOED it isn’t a genuine scare factor. It’s more like “Oh...okay, that just happened for the eighth time tonight.”
I said what I said, I meant what I said and you heard what I said. My stance on NOED and DS has not changed and it probably never will.
The game isn’t balanced on either side. It is PVP, this will never EVER be a true horror experience simply because it is PVP and you can’t have the killers side be incredibly powerful as if it was an AI.
you forgot something. 1 its asymmetrical or should be 2 noed is an hex
the second point invalidates your ds noed comparison. Just imagine hex totems doesn't exist, in that case I would agree
Yes it is asymmetrical and the killer SHOULD have the power role but the killer can’t be untouchable. In a PvP game it’ll never be a true horror game. If they added a single player game mode then maybe it would but I doubt that will happen. I don’t really consider DBD to be a horror game to begin with. I put in it the same boat that I do F13, but extremely great party games to play with friends but when you play it alone you get drained out quickly especially if you take the game too seriously.
Some perks would be way overpowered without it being a hex unless you had competent teammates. Ruin and Devor Hope come to mind easily. Matches would end with five generators left and a four man mori.
It’s just getting old that people are still arguing over DS and NOED. Just saying if they were both gone there would be no complaining. Although killers can’t do without their precious little insta-downs. I would say the same with survivors not being able to do without their free escapes but I don’t see many people stick up for DS nor do I run into it a lot as killer but 80% of the time killers have NOED. It gives bad killers a kill because when there is four survivors left and you insta-down one of them, why would you go and chase the other three? There isn’t any point, you won’t get a four man. The killer killed that ONE person due to an insta-down and that is how MOST of the time NOED works. DS gives bad survivors a free escape. Both perks makes up for the players mistakes.
I always do around 2-3 totems per march and if my mates do the same(lately more often) noed don't even proc.
"It gives a bad killers kills" maybe you should phase it like, punish lazy survivors who just wanna genrush when totems grants bp and boldness. Like, it even gives you points and you still cry about noed when its you fault you won't adapt
I know its a weird word but seriously, adapt. Noed is more frequent? Instead of ignoring totems just cleanse if you see some. Noed is the last perk I have a problems with as survivor and it actually bothers me that people like you cry about it, you know why? Because you guys are the kind of people who won't cleans them when you are in my team, then cry about it.
This sentence really nothers me for these reasons: "Both perks makes up for the players mistakes"
Which is a lie to have an excuse to don't adapt and press one button to 1) prevent a perk 2) free bp 3) free bold points
"free bp" as if ignoring gens to work on totems isn't a terrible idea anyway with the current strategy of camping being prevalent.
even without camping this puts the survivors at a slight disadvantage and potentially wastes time that isn't needed.
but DS which is a ONE TIME USE skill is somehow overpowered?
personally I don't care about either perk, I'll adjust to them as I need... but to hear the killer/survivor mains whining over their respective sides is ridiculous and the comparison between the two perks is annoying.
I'm with the others... remove both so the whining can stop. -
I had a recording of the teddy bears failed suicide on my phone for over a year just so I could show it off to random people for hilarious reactions.Unicorn said:
OMG LOL. I remember that! Do you remember the wishing well episode with the teddy bear? XDAvariku said:
"Mystery Spot" was the funniest episode!! watching dean die repeatedly in increasingly comical ways and samsUnicorn said:I know this is off topic but Yellow F e v e r was the funniest episode of the series, prove me wrong.
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I had a recording of the teddy bears failed suicide on my phone for over a year just so I could show it off to random people for their hilarious reactionsUnicorn said:
OMG LOL. I remember that! Do you remember the wishing well episode with the teddy bear? XDAvariku said:
"Mystery Spot" was the funniest episode!! watching dean die repeatedly in increasingly comical ways and samsUnicorn said:I know this is off topic but Yellow F e v e r was the funniest episode of the series, prove me wrong.
Side Note: the forum wouldn’t let me add my comment because of the word “fever”...? -
I really would love to know the failure stats like that.
how many times have i failed a generator skill check?
how many beartraps have I stepped in?
how many times have I been pulled from window/pallet?
how many times have I been hit by a pallet?
stunned by flashlight?
what's my terrible hit/miss ratio for attacking survivors?
this would all be pretty amusing statistics to read. -
how many bear traps have I stepped in?!
lol
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"Mystery Spot" was the funniest episode!! watching dean die repeatedly in increasingly comical ways and sams slow descent into apathetic madnessUnicorn said:I know this is off topic but Yellow F e v e r was the funniest episode of the series, prove me wrong.
Side Note: the forum wouldn’t let me add my comment because of the word “fever”...? -
I highly doubt it would ever happen, but I would absolutely love to see Sam running around in the game.
(huge supernatural fan and NOT a fan of fnaf or undertale)
plus, some of the killers from the series would make pretty interesting killers.
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I'm rank... errr... 10? I think... but I definitely wish I could find a game that quick.AntiJelly said:@CybeRetr0 said:
I'm playing for the killer, but I'm tired of waiting 20 minutes for the game. Searching for survivors is tragic.I'm on Xbox, and I find full lobbies at rank 9-5 within 1-3 minutes.
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queue times are obnoxiously long for killers on xbox too, my assumption is that the camping and toxic killers are so prevalent on xbone that no one wants to play survivor.
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I don't care about tunneling... to be honest that's just target prioritization... and I don't blame a killer for hunting down the wounded survivor.
camping, on the other hand is just lazy. it's boring and kinda ruins the game.
but then again...
iT's A lEgIt StRaTeGy. >.> -
still would be a cool addition if they could find a way to make it work... but they would have to be super careful about what kinds of things they could put into the tree
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Urban Evasion
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Technician
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either small game or dark sense. -
your blatant disregard for other people really explains how moronic you are. There was no need to insult him for sharing an opinion, regardless of his spelling.detardedrevelopers said:Your spelling, grammar, and punctuation explain how unskilled you really are.
Solution: Hit them with your weapon they will leave and if not they're your next target when you drop them. Also you whining because you can't stop a player blocking you is like saying I can't repair a generator cause the killer keeps camping it. There are alternatives and skill in this game, don't like it? Deal with it or play a different game.
and the fact that you go on to simply dismiss the point without even considering it or showing willingness to discuss it only further indicates your obviously low IQ.
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I actually really like this idea, but with how many issues they have with balancing the game already, I feel this would only exacerbate the issue.
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to be honest I prefer to play killer, and I refuse to camp unless someone is being a salty/trolly little twat... then and only then will I camp.Malakir said:
Yeah its laughable, noed canbe prevented before it ever happen (happened several games, people are starting to clean more, no only me) and can be counteredAvariku said:the comparison between NOED and DS is laughable.
NOES has the potential to down multiple victims right at the end of the game...
where as DS has the potential to save ONE survivor ONCE...
I really couldn't care less about either perk, but I find the incessant whining from killers to be hilarious.
DS is gamebreaking but camping is a legit strat. xD
DS, especially no obsession one, can be less of an issue if you run enduring, and even that won't matter if the survivor have half of a brain cell and go to the nearest loop.
So yeah, the comparison is laughable. Just the fact you think camping isn't okay I can imagine which side you only play
Even a bad chaser like me (or evader?) Can survive against tunneling and camping just by using stealth. Anybody can, like anybody can take 20s to have extra bp and prevent akiller perk
unfortunately, since I hate waiting 5-15 minutes just to find a game, I end up playing survivor so that I can get more than 2-3 rounds a night after work.
its what bugs me... I have NO issue getting kills as killer without resorting to camping, or many of the more "supposedly unfair" perks, and yet I'm constantly reading about how the game is stacked so unfavorably against killers.
yet for me, a stealthy survivor, thats my ONLY defense against the ridiculous number of campers. don't get caught, even once, or its game over. -
you literally called him out for being rank 16 in one breath and then claimed rank means nothing in the next...Master said:@BeanieEnthusiast said:
@Master said:
@BeanieEnthusiast said:
And I have the proof right here:
I was asked to do this a while ago on this forum because I was arguing that he was fine where he was, and people were being smart asses. Well here it is I did it.
Stop complaining that he needs a buff, he doesn't.
EDIT: IT'S A WHOLE PLAYLIST
Rank 16
Next time use your brain before you embarass yourself
and even if there is a video at rank 1 of one freddy doing well, everyone knows what rank means.....
It's a whole playlist to rank 1 if you care to read.
If you care to read, read the 2nd part
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very different games with very different skill sets, so I don't really see the correlation... but okay... I guess everyone who isn't top rank should just quit and find a different game? cause that would pretty much kill funding for this game, but I guess that's okay too? lol
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LMAO. that's the most moronic assumption I've seen in a long time.Orion said:@Avariku said:
exactly!!! they should build this game around the top 5% of players. [BAD WORD] anyone who isn't a pro-gamer or the average players, they don't deserve a good game.I take it you're also against social programs because you believe they take away your money?
Balancing a game at the top means that players of equal skill have an equal chance to win. It's beneficial for everyone.
you're actually advocating for the top tier players to be coddled while the rest of the players have to "git gud" just to stand a chance, so if anything, it would seem you're the type to forsake the masses in favor of the few. not me. xD -
Crythor said:
The thing with the graph from the stream is its kinda useless because most people in any game DbD included are just bad. Rank 1 people are bad on average too. Maybe disconnects count as kills maybe not (though my guess would be they do) but the only thing to see how balanced a game is is to let the best players on both sides play each other over every map multiple times and see how they perform on average.
To claim that the game is balanced or killers are OP because of average player stats is just simply stupid.
exactly!!! they should build this game around the top 5% of players. ######### anyone who isn't a pro-gamer or the average players, they don't deserve a good game. -
I'm one of the ones who is excited for the rework, but you HAVE to love the logic of people in the forums.
"you're rank 16, this proves nothing"
"I have videos of Rank 1 as well"
"rank means nothing in this game"
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I would much prefer to main killer, since I'm sick of waiting through the lobby and load times just to get face-camped and repeat the process...
but everytime I open a lobby as killer, I end up walking away to make food or something while I wait for it to fill.
(xbox one player, so maybe that's why, but that doesn't change the fact that I'm forced to play survivor if I want to play more than 2 rounds a night after work and most of those end up with lazy campers.) -
the comparison between NOED and DS is laughable.
NOES has the potential to down multiple victims right at the end of the game...
where as DS has the potential to save ONE survivor ONCE...
I really couldn't care less about either perk, but I find the incessant whining from killers to be hilarious.
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alright, yea, if the gates are opened there should be incentives to getting out instead of looking for the hatch....
but if everyone else got themselves killed, the last survivor shouldn't be punished for a bad team.
I run into this situation a lot actually where I will running around getting gens done and my team are off somewhere circle-jerking or gods know what... they end up dying and I'm stuck alone, with the killer, blindly fumbling around as quietly as possible, desperately hunting for that damn hatch.
and most times the easiest way to find it is to find the killer who is probably camping it. then a quick mindgame to lead them away (flubbing a gen skillcheck) and I might get out.
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how does this encourage gen rush? apropos said:
I don't like this. It puts limitations on the number of experiences a player can have by forcing everyone 'to get on with it already'. There are so many games that force this experience on the player... why not just go play fortnite?
I'd rather see mechanics that prevented survivors from escaping and forced them to deal with the killer, rather than encouraging them to gen rush, then bolt out of the trial.
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can't have a discussion without being antagonistic. you realize I didn't insult the game YOU made, right?
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first off, I used to main killer and still would if it wasnt for the annoying wait times compared to survivors insta-lobby.
(something that should tell you a bit about who's playing what.)
and not billy, hag, or nurse either.
(I suck at nurse)
and I didn't mean the game is tanking as far as number of players or current popularity, but its tanking as far as succeeding at the sole purpose of any game, which is enjoyment.
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200$ for a skin??? geez, I knew bhvr had gotten greedy, but didn't realize just how bad.
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so survivors have NO reason to expect to be able to escape. "If you got downed, you deserve to be hooked."
and looping is apparently toxic...
but if a killer gets you to the hook, they have every right to face camp you...
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not that I've heard... and with the absolute trainwreck that the latest event was, they won't be getting any cash from me, DLC or otherwise.
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Dudddd said:
Sit down silly Lisa ....loool Ds rEwOrKSmokePotion said:Fun as hell, generally speaking.
There's talks of an end game rework, and a DS rework, and if that happens, this game could go from pretty damn fun, to amazing.
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Other comms need to be limited somehow... this game is not really made for parties to play together with no consequences. (hence it ends up making the game entirely one-sided and not in the way it should be)
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gotta love the blatantly biased views on here.
just like killers... "CaMpEiNg Is A lEgIt StRaTeGy"
yea, and being bullied into submission by 4 survivors on comms is just a strategy too.
both "strategies" are trash and take any semblance if fun out of the game.
and before you start, I don't mean "comms are unfair" period... I just don't like the way they are currently in use.
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I had no clue I could remap those on xbox... duuuuude.
it'll take a bit to fix the muscle-memory, but I think that will make a big difference for me. thanks!
(does this change any actions for killer?)
