Sarief

M2Fream said:

SovererignKing said:

@Sarief

Barring the other points, as Powerbats said, I’ll tell you now that NOED is not balanced. Ruin could use a tweek to make it less susceptible to be made irrelevant that is true.

NOED is a crappy cheese, and the only perk I consider a crutch for Killers. It a cheesy “Comeback” perk that rewards failure. Sure, the game isn’t balanced and Survivors are too strong, thanks to Gen Rushing being too easy to pull off, thanks to Looping making it a nightmare to catch anyone. However that’s not justification for a perk like NOED.

Good Killers can be cucked by bad map balance, bad mechanics, unbalanced Survivor perks, this is true. However the opposite is also true. Killers who are legitimately bad at the game can easily get carried hard by NOED. Killers that absolutely do not deserve to get much can get a ton.

Take this Huntress for example:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hwMKJtVdFeY

Couldn’t land a hatchet throw to save his life. Missed even regular swings. Spent the whole match just trying to tunnel one dude out. Got one other person... Then NOED. Snowballed the whole damn team. You may use the defense of “break the totems!” I did, but only a SWF can coordinate knowing if they broke all 5 totems. It’s really unrealistic to expect 4 randoms to make sure they got all 5 totems.

I for one would rather the balance the game and get rid of crutches like NOED. It’s just not fair legitimately bad Killers can get carried by one perk. Same as DS, it carries bad Survivors.

Side Note : Honestly when it comes to SC, they just need to give it limited uses. The whole reset to zero thing is kind of stupid imo. It’s the Killers fault in the first place the Survivor got away and was able to self care. YOU as the Killer failed to track your prey properly. The problem with self care really is how little it means to be injured while body blocking. The developers just need to limit it to 3 uses l, so Survivors have to be more judicial.

Lastly, Spint Burst needs a change that you have to be running for 3 seconds before it activates imo. That way it doesn’t just cuck Ambush Killers so hard.

Doesnt that mean self care rewards failure? You know, with the getting hit and all...

That is bad interpretation.
You cannot design like that.
It is there, because it is needed

in Why Self-Care is Broken Beyond Belief, and How I Would Fix it Comment by Sarief September 30, 2018

I don't play them because I don't have all teachables yet.
Nurse is not that hard, expert for corn, which I was getting with 80% chance ;(

in No nurses on ps4, red ranks? Comment by Sarief September 30, 2018

I had leveled wraith to 35 and the only perks I got to 3 are shadowborn and predator.
No ruin no sloppy, myc is lvl 2, no bbq.

Don't mind to camp, esp if I got popcorn map, ######### that

in Whats with all the camping wraiths today? Comment by Sarief September 30, 2018

Khalednazari said:

@Tsulan said:

@Khalednazari said:
Tsulan said:

@Khalednazari said:

Sloppy Butcher is really good. You need to use it on the right killer, with the right perk sets.

No, it´s not. It´s like Fire Up. The slight time bonus is not worth wasting a perkslot for.

Or is Prove Thyself suddenly meta?

I have caught many players with Nurses calling, Sloppy Butcher, Thanatophobia together. You have every right to differ, but it's still the best on killers like Freddy, Nurse, and even Trapper with his ultra-rare addon.

The one perk that is carrying your build is Nurse Calling. Sloppy Butcher and Thanatophobia are worthless. Hell, even Coulthrophobia is worthless in it´s current state, because no red rank survivor would heal inside the terror radius of the killer. Because Nurse Calling exists.

I am not aware, which platform you play on. But on PS4, some survivors at rank 1 are even worse than rank 20s. With Freddy, it forces them to heal in my TR, since I can see their aura outside of it. Sloppy Butcher slows down the heal, which gives me a better chances to get them before they fully heal. We are different people, our playstyles differ, too. I love sloppy butcher, and I am really impressed with the buff. It gives a different dimension to this kind of playstyle.

Lol, there are more potatoes for because of thee giveaway a month ago
But saying people are forced to heal in TR when you play Freddy. What a joke.
You clearly don't know what you talk about

Edit: ######### this forum s autocomplete

in Sloppy butcher is... really bad. Comment by Sarief September 30, 2018

Sloppy is not as good as ruin in the role if game stopper.
It has few scenarios where it is good:
1) tracking with bloodhound
2) slugging. healing 15% under mangled is not instant anymore and you can catch someone by surprise.
3) nc with small TR killer (Myers, wraith, nurse, hag, doc, pig)
4) someone in the hook and you want to make it not safe. Hitting someone will result in 30 seconds heal with 45 being hook stage. Makes at least two survivors busy.

And that's about it. Combination with thana makes those scenarios a little bit scarier, but not much.

in Sloppy butcher is... really bad. Comment by Sarief September 30, 2018

Milo said:
@Sarief said:
SanKa_Games said:

@Sarief said:

SanKa_Games said:
I think that Self Care should be made a base skill for EVERY survivour, 80% of people use it anyway, so why not make it 100? Ofc, game must be balanced around it then, but mostly because of it's not using a perk slot anymore. Because right now close to endgame not having self care means that survivours are doomed, ut if they do - there's no stopping them, including hatch situations. Including this into survivours abilities will finally allow devs to nerf surviours, considering they are able to use self care. Now they just can't, since some people don't use it.

Though, it's just an idea that's not anywhere near good, it might be a solution to self heal problem.



No, self care takes perk slot to not give survivors more free perk slots. It's 16 vs 4 so stop right now.

SC is needed in game, and the game is designed with this perk in everyone possession in mind.

As for those situations : devs said they don't like situations themselves, so they are you be reworked

The only Nerf needed is heal in killers face thing and times. Times are worked on right now.
Oh, and it should not cuck Freddy so hard. It is most meta perk all time, you can't have it directly counter killers ability

I believe, Freddy's problems with SC will be solved with the next balance patch (though, devs' buffs are always so unpredictable and they might make a perk/addon solution LOL).

Lolwhat?
In next patch Freddy is going to be there even more - more SC time, more skill checks
They want to remove SC being able to wake you up

Also still this post was made because for the more altruistic players.

Removal of SC wake up was just an idea. It was never mentioned to be in mid patch

in Perfect (maybe) self care nerf. Comment by Sarief September 30, 2018

SanKa_Games said:

@Sarief said:
SanKa_Games said:

I think that Self Care should be made a base skill for EVERY survivour, 80% of people use it anyway, so why not make it 100? Ofc, game must be balanced around it then, but mostly because of it's not using a perk slot anymore. Because right now close to endgame not having self care means that survivours are doomed, ut if they do - there's no stopping them, including hatch situations. Including this into survivours abilities will finally allow devs to nerf surviours, considering they are able to use self care. Now they just can't, since some people don't use it.

Though, it's just an idea that's not anywhere near good, it might be a solution to self heal problem.

No, self care takes perk slot to not give survivors more free perk slots. It's 16 vs 4 so stop right now.

SC is needed in game, and the game is designed with this perk in everyone possession in mind.

As for those situations : devs said they don't like situations themselves, so they are you be reworked

The only Nerf needed is heal in killers face thing and times. Times are worked on right now.

Oh, and it should not cuck Freddy so hard. It is most meta perk all time, you can't have it directly counter killers ability

I believe, Freddy's problems with SC will be solved with the next balance patch (though, devs' buffs are always so unpredictable and they might make a perk/addon solution LOL).

Lolwhat?
In next patch Freddy is going to be there even more - more SC time, more skill checks

in Perfect (maybe) self care nerf. Comment by Sarief September 30, 2018

SanKa_Games said:

I think that Self Care should be made a base skill for EVERY survivour, 80% of people use it anyway, so why not make it 100? Ofc, game must be balanced around it then, but mostly because of it's not using a perk slot anymore. Because right now close to endgame not having self care means that survivours are doomed, ut if they do - there's no stopping them, including hatch situations. Including this into survivours abilities will finally allow devs to nerf surviours, considering they are able to use self care. Now they just can't, since some people don't use it.

Though, it's just an idea that's not anywhere near good, it might be a solution to self heal problem.

No, self care takes perk slot to not give survivors more free perk slots. It's 16 vs 4 so stop right now.

SC is needed in game, and the game is designed with this perk in everyone possession in mind.

As for those situations : devs said they don't like situations themselves, so they are you be reworked

The only Nerf needed is heal in killers face thing and times. Times are worked on right now.

Oh, and it should not cuck Freddy so hard. It is most meta perk all time, you can't have it directly counter killers ability

in Perfect (maybe) self care nerf. Comment by Sarief September 29, 2018

Delfador said:

@White_Owl said:

@Delfador said:

@White_Owl said:
I think if they go on with healing time change (from 12 to 16) Self Care would get nerfed enough. 32 (or 40 with Mangled) seconds to heal is a loooot of time.

I think it is gonna become 24 not 32 since it reduces healing speed by %50. I don't know how mangled affects (Baseline or cumulative?) but it will be around 28-30 with mangled.

It is already 24.

I believe it is 18. If it is not, perk description is wrong and it should be stated that it reduces healing speed by %100.

You got your math wrong buddy.
50 decreases makes 100 into 50. Healing with 50 is doubling the time.
Just multiple time by 0.50

in Perfect (maybe) self care nerf. Comment by Sarief September 29, 2018

Was the last survivor, killer chased me for three minutes. Don't even care.
Neither should you.
You do - they win

in Why killers repeatedly hit the last hooked survivor Comment by Sarief September 29, 2018

Getting gen grabs with tinkerer.
Actually any moment when you can see I'm the eyes of the survivor that they ######### up.
Get cross map shipped by Billy.
Get blocked by wraith.
Get stuck into same trap by trapper.
Get blocked by spirit.
Get hit by insidious gen camper

Get cross map snipped by huntress
Get hooked in hags basement
Find bubba in basement
Get minded in a pallet loop

in Do you ever get a good laugh playing this game and when? Comment by Sarief September 28, 2018

There are many design choices that promote limit per game
first being: to encourage you to play as many games as possible

Do I even need to continue?

in Do we even need a bloodpoint cap? Comment by Sarief September 28, 2018

@Gun_Doc said:
@Sarief

Here is a video I took just a couple of days ago. At 9:28 the survivor failed a skill check so I started heading that way, but was still a long ways away, 9:41 Game Over and 9:48 I finally arrived.

https://youtu.be/7pNDrLSmri8?t=9m26s

This looks to me like suicide though. Why she failed skill check and stayed in same place though? You didn't receive "failed check box search" notification, right?
Or I am wrong and pig does not receive those? o-O

in Did they go out of their way to make The Pig bad? Comment by Sarief September 28, 2018

Gun_Doc said:

@Sarief said:

On the other hand, never seen it that head pops when there's not enough time till next box.

They're not RNG, they're just scam.

Are you saying you have never seen a RBT take out a survivor? Maybe I'm just misunderstanding what you wrote because I haven't had enough coffee this morning.

I've never seen box fail if survivor was in danger: incoming killer it running out timer

in Did they go out of their way to make The Pig bad? Comment by Sarief September 27, 2018

level of entitlement: I know bettar!!

the heck. why does she need 4 bufs?
even with all nerfs, the sound (which was not mentioned, it's a bug) is the only thing the needs to be fixed.
Everything else is to make her stronger/weaker. And devs have their own reasons to make the changes.

And you're just like a golden boy, coming here and telling people what to do. This level of entitlement is amusing, to be honest

in The Spirit needs buffs. Comment by Sarief September 27, 2018

@Terrortot said:
I guess ps4 is a whole different animal than pc.

I have done consistent 3-4k with her in red ranks.

The traps are just to buy time, i think i have had one go off via timer and one survivor go through the exit gates with one on....lul

It definitely slows the game though.

ps4 is completely different. On pc, starting rank 15 you get SWF that try to troll and know all about game. No joke, first 10 games for me were 4 man SWF. I did not know to "dodge"
On ps4 until red ranks you don't even get SWF, people play smartly but not PC lvl. And PC trolling is just.. of the charts.
And pigs I've met on PS4 are a joke compared to PC lvl. People on PS4 seem to play more casually or more cautiosly, not intending to run whole game just to troll killer. I honestly like it.

As for pig traps: if you chase survivor with trap on his head, he will loose time and might have his head blown up. Losing chase = crouch as pig. As soon as you lose her, timer starts again. For each chase, even small, there is -1 box available to search. chase him 3 times, and he has only time to check 2 boxes.
I've seen game help survivor many times, if he does not have enough time to reach other box, his trap would be disarmed. On the other hand, never seen it that head pops when there's not enough time till next box.
They're not RNG, they're just scam.

in Did they go out of their way to make The Pig bad? Comment by Sarief September 27, 2018

@MegaWaffle said:
1: Could have seen you place it.
2: Could have seen it as they are not very hard to see.
3: Could have been in a obvious/popular spot meaning they simply took caution and guessed right.
4: Could have seen it before getting chased and knew where it was.
5: SWF could have told them were it was.
6: Could have gotten lucky.

If you vs a Trapper most experienced survivors will avoid pallets that haven't been "pre-checked" and will take wider loops around object to avoid popular trap spots.

I know all this. But they weren't SWF: one of them always got caught. The other two were potato and also got lured.
only this p3claudette run around traps. Actually, she run around bush that had trap and only that bush. Or didn't go for a pallet with trap on other side (in bush) once she was nearing it. And with no small game it's just odd.
more odd that it's happening in different games around specific survivor.

in Is there a way to make grass invisible in game? Comment by Sarief September 26, 2018

@laKUKA said:
We should tell to the survs how to play them (no claudete prestige 3 ... no DS ... etc)

you can do that. Just drop lobby at 10 seconds mark

in WHY?? Comment by Sarief September 26, 2018

@Vietfox said:
Sarief said:

@Vietfox said:

Sounds perfectly balanced.

If someone disagrees must be a filthy survivor main >: )

the irony is strong in this one

@Sarief
I agree with suggestions which aren't ridiculously op, for both killers AND survivors. Feel free to check my comments and u'll see how i disagreed with some survivor buffs suggestions as well.

wow, don't think that I don't know that though
you being filthy survivor main and you being smart and adequate are two different things

in Buff Ideas For ALL killers. 100% LEGIT. Comment by Sarief September 26, 2018

My first mori ^^

in Your best moments in DBD Comment by Sarief September 26, 2018

@Vietfox said:
Sounds perfectly balanced.
If someone disagrees must be a filthy survivor main >: )

the irony is strong in this one

in Buff Ideas For ALL killers. 100% LEGIT. Comment by Sarief September 26, 2018

@Pound0fFlesh said:
There is no secondary benefits to his power like Doctor or Hillbilly.

there is slowdown to healing/genrepair
but genrepair slow is neglectable with amount of skillchecks you get
healing slowdown only benefits survivors with SC to actually get skill check.

You need to be really lucky for it to slow down more than 10 seconds (which is equal to 5 seconds of normal working =\

in #Make Freddy Great Again Comment by Sarief September 26, 2018

@Zanfer said:

@grtf47 said:
Dear killer, maybe you shouldn’t be afk and be ready when the game starts. If you’re stuck then I understand.

The OP is talking about when the game is over and both doors are open and survivors just stay in the game for an extra 5 minutes for no reason..

reason why I always bring Whispers.

in Dear survivors Comment by Sarief September 25, 2018

@Might_Oakk said:

@Sarief said:
This bug was reported so long ago. It's console version of hacks.
btw, you don't get perks or addons to play with the killer. Getting Myers is "good"-ish, as hackers normally pick Freddy to bully

Yeah I almost played it but didn't want to give them the satisfaction. Was a 4man Swf pretty sure they way they all msgd me on psn after calling me every name in the book.

write down their names. Once you encounter them next time, dodge on 8 seconds mark. No need to play with stupid people.

in Why is this still a thing? (Survivors using offerings to pick your killer) Comment by Sarief September 25, 2018

Dwight, Nea, Quentin, Meg
others survs got roles

in Who would you classify as the leader Comment by Sarief September 25, 2018

@vendalwind said:
HINT HINT rancor can be used to hostage the game in a rather clever way, and if your not doing this when you can you arent using it right.
If you down the obsession with 1 generator left leave him slugged. he becomes a hostage against the team, The moment they pop that last gen you can outright murder, and previous to that you can bet at least one hero boy will try to swoop in and top off his downed heal. Every time i've had the opportunity to do this I get either 3-4 kills. 3 cause well hatch is still broken.

nah, it's countered very easily. adrenaline. you also get 5 sec invurnubility, due to speed boost, but you need to run. Wait under pallet and that's it.

in Rancor Rework Idea Comment by Sarief September 25, 2018

This bug was reported so long ago. It's console version of hacks.
btw, you don't get perks or addons to play with the killer. Getting Myers is "good"-ish, as hackers normally pick Freddy to bully

in Why is this still a thing? (Survivors using offerings to pick your killer) Comment by Sarief September 25, 2018

As long as you buff BBQ, I'm okay with the change ^^

in Why BBQ is superior to its Survivor counterpart We Are Gonna Live Forever - and how to change that Comment by Sarief September 25, 2018

I don't really understand many of the points.
Why? They don't have many things in common.
Every Killer has it's power set out to make them play in a specific way.
Trapper has to use his traps to catch survivors and cut short chases by blocking escape paths.
Wraith uses his invisibility to set up ambush and down survivors.
Nurse uses her power to catch up to any survivor she can find.
Billy uses his power to control area and punish those he finds.
etc.
For this changes though... It looks she would catch up using her power in open space, but once in a tricky place she gets cucked, unlike nurse.
Also suggestion to make her speed lower than survivor.... She can't bypass obstacles, so it will make her unplayable. You hide or vault, she can't catch. You have jungle gym and she's useless.
In other words, with those changes she lacks design to execute.

On another note, her speed is 4.4, which should encourage using her power. But her power right now "could" only be used to cut down chases (if not for sound bugs). And her mobility suffers which further reduces her ability to locate survivors which she can easily loose.

The problem with punishing recharge, not enough mobility to keep hold of map and lacking ability to find surviovr... this all is fixed by 4.6 speed and sound bugfix.
Unlike Wraith, her power can hardly be used for ambush right now (or anywhere, if they're supposed to hear her, they could evade her before she appears and starts search)

in In-depth Spirit Changes With Reasoning & Justification! Comment by Sarief September 25, 2018

I suppose they will find solution soon, as they posted open job position just for this aspect

in There Are Too Many Perks. Comment by Sarief September 24, 2018

@Jack11803 said:

@Sarief said:

@Jack11803 said:
PLOT TWIST! Original Poster is actually the Claudette, and trying to use you guys to learn how to see through grass!

I main Kate though

That’s what a Claudette main trying to see through traps would say!

I'm pretty sure that's not true, but I'll trust you on that

And I still don't know how they do it, since they definitely should not see traps

in Is there a way to make grass invisible in game? Comment by Sarief September 24, 2018

@Jack11803 said:
PLOT TWIST! Original Poster is actually the Claudette, and trying to use you guys to learn how to see through grass!

I main Kate though

in Is there a way to make grass invisible in game? Comment by Sarief September 24, 2018

@Dabrownman1812 said:
Sarief said:

@Cass said:

Even with small game when in chase you run eventually into traps. It has a 10 sec cooldown and it works in a cone. 36 meters In an 45 degree angle is a lot of ground.

It's 12 meters though.

And like I said, those omniknowing survivors did not have small game in their kit.

Maybe you put it in predictable spots, some trappers put traps in predictable spots.

I'd like to think that. It's just too convenient that one survivor can bypass and find every single trap in highgrass/behind window/behind downed pallet in random area.
On the other hand, in the same team (not SWF) you have survivor that steps in 4 different traps. and 2 times into the same one (total 5) while you chase that single omniscient survivor who does not dodge long grass or pallet, as long as it's not Trapped.

Like I said, it's just too convenient that some survivors knows exactly where each trap is.

well, you could of course play with me in KYF and see how predictable my traps are (some of them are, but they're deadly anyway).

in Is there a way to make grass invisible in game? Comment by Sarief September 24, 2018

@Cass said:
Even with small game when in chase you run eventually into traps. It has a 10 sec cooldown and it works in a cone. 36 meters In an 45 degree angle is a lot of ground.

It's 12 meters though.

And like I said, those omniknowing survivors did not have small game in their kit.

in Is there a way to make grass invisible in game? Comment by Sarief September 24, 2018

I hate playing against Trapper that knows what he's doing. As trapper main, I know that if Trapper does things correctly, I can't counter him. And also I have luck to always step into random trap. Have yet to face the house of pain tho

I love playing against Shape. He's hard AF, but people for once try to break LoS and start playing cautiously. Plus can be played very differently, so there's always a twist to his power.

in What Killer do you like playing against the most, and the least Comment by Sarief September 24, 2018

@Zavri said:
Each time a Survivor who is not the Obsession is hooked for the first time and is killed or sacrificed, gain a token.

uhh this perk would only activate if 3 people are dead if they went live with this.

That's pretty [BAD WORD] stupid.

3 hooks per person, unless someone dcs.

Which still does not make this change better, as reward for not camping is miniscule

in Rancor Rework Idea Comment by Sarief September 24, 2018

I played both sides, I know for a fact that with tall grass you can't see traps. You can with middle to even low, but high grass but.

Survivor that tsees every trap is very strange, so I was wondering if that was possible.

No small game, obviously

Edit: why the ######### does the forum change words I write

in Is there a way to make grass invisible in game? Comment by Sarief September 24, 2018

@White_Owl said:
Maybe from the killer's side, but I doubt it's possible as survivor. Probably they just saw it at the last moment. Remember that the traps' hitbox is relatively small, it's not hard to walk around them.

You don't get disarm prompt when you run and you don't see it in high grass. If it was one trap, I'd agree they were following me, but all of them in different trials seems strange. Also, it happens only with certain survivors. Like normally people just run around and don't do anything, but sometimes there is survivor that knows exactly where all traps are.
Not sure if it's cheat or smth.

I also run whispers, so no one around. Especially strange when it's place where you don't have LoS and it's random trap =\

in Is there a way to make grass invisible in game? Comment by Sarief September 24, 2018

If I have rankor and catch obsession before gens are done, I check whether he has DS it not. No DS, then no Mori if all gens are done.

Oh, and it you disarm my trap, the Chase is on.
If you break my trap or hook, though... You're facecamped / moried even if I have to throw the game.

in Your Killer Round Rule. Comment by Sarief September 24, 2018

powerbats said:

@MegaWaffle said:
1: Start Dead by Daylight
2: Wait in Killer lobby
3: Wait in Killer lobby
4: Wait in Killer lobby...
5: Go to bed...

Must be a PS4 user, come to the dark side and join pc.

Lol, on PS4, unless rank 1, you find full lobby in minutes.
On PC you wait for hours.

Are we in same universe?

in Your Killer Round Rule. Comment by Sarief September 24, 2018

AStupidMonkeyy said:

@DeadByFlashlight said:

@AStupidMonkeyy said:
do you mind raising it a little for head hits so survivors don't Urban Evasion around constructs so you can't even hit them or over pallets that have been dropped because it hits those objects first? Otherwise, I love it! Gave me a challenge and loved how it felt to watch them freak out when I did nail them lol running into walls was hilarious XD Just a simple request but the main hitboxes, keep them. Thank you, Devs

Are we talking about the same hitboxes?

https://clips.twitch.tv/AggressiveMuddyVelociraptorCoolStoryBro

Read my comments. I played a few games after and retracted my statement but also, the devs don't need hate for trying to fix something that was slightly broken.

It wasn't. There were lag issues but those can only be resolved with dedicated servers.
And as much as there were lucky shots, there were laggy misses. Killer simply had advantage as host.

Now what is the point if playing huntress? If it was only change to size of hitbox, it would be fine. But it's smaller than survivors, it does not register it survivor crouches, vaults, runs in zigzag, is near tree.
There hitbox now registers collision boxes of all objects even more strongly, so hiding is even more strong.
This is not right in so many ways.

Meanwhile they fixed lunge speed, but hit detection of m1 is broken. I had survivors run at me and not be hit. No dead hard. If you carry survivor and they don't stand still, half hits miss simply because.

Survivors don't need perks to have to need more than 4 strikes to down them ;(

in I love the new hatchet hitbox for Huntress but Comment by Sarief September 24, 2018

What are you on?

in Trapper Tweaks Comment by Sarief September 24, 2018

@Jack11803 said:

@Sarief said:

@Jack11803 said:

@Sarief said:

@Jack11803 said:

@Sarief said:

@Jack11803 said:

@Sarief said:

@Jack11803 said:
@Sarief

Also, WGLF is not even in the top 5 used perks for survivors. While BBQ is strong #1

You'd think that would be a reason to think why survivors have 5 more broken perks than wgfl analogue that makes you grind faster

It's not in top 5 because top 5 is so stupidly broken and survivors don't need to farm to be viable. They don't need items or addons and they even keep them if they survive -_-

Again, give me a single NEGATIVE effect if tokens were easier to get, and required less farming.

1) economy problems. Killer and Survivor should be in equilibrium so that it does not become reason to play either side. Both sides should have balanced point gaining way
2) look what happened when WGLF was 200%
3) Less insensitive to help teammate. This is what this perk is for, right?
3 is not enough?

1) then buff killer gains too hot damn. 2) did I say make it 200% it’d still be 100%, but it’d be consistent like BBQ is if you don’t suck. 3) It just causes farming, and you should know that. 4) three isn't enough if all three are ass

1) then economy has to be redesigned. I've seen they have position for economy designer on DBD open right now. Want to apply?
2) I can get those stucks consistently, like I said, it's not hard. Want to fix bug with protection not procing when you think it should? then... sure, I'm up for it. bug begone.
3) It causes me to take hits. Also, they're gonna change it so only safe unhooks will give stacks, so no more sandbagging.
you asked for one, got three and still not happy. Only can say "facepalm"
1 and 2 are objective, and 3 is design. You not liking them does not make them invalid.

2) A negative effect of buffing WGLF isn’t that it’s already easy to get stacks, that doesn’t make sense. 3) isn’t a negative. 1) The amount of points needed to p3 everyone increases epontentially every new chapter.

2)... then what we argue? OP asked for easier to get stacks.
3) less incensitive to help -> is negative.
1) lol, wrong

2) I’m asking you to give me reason to not buff WGLF (as its buff doesn’t hurt killers). In that case, making it easier for people IS NEVER BAD. 3) There’s plenty incentive as it is. Especially with autodidact and deliverance. Even before it was fine, as not helping can lose a game. The people who don’t help never will anyway. 1) you’re right, it’s not exponential. But it still snowballs. Every perk has 3 levels. 6 new perks are given every chapter. That’s 9 levels for every killer and survivor you’ve already gotten p3 with every former perk. Then there’s a new killer and survivor, which adds to the list of people. With each person costing (after p3 with every prevoius perk) roughly 500k to level up 9 times.

2) one proposed hurts killer, second hurts economy. Making it easier for people is not bad for people. Might not be as good for game, but I'm not competent enough to answer that part don't have whole info.
3) perk design is to make incensitive, not to force. It does it's job.
1) p3 50 takes 200 bloodwebs. Getting all perks at p3 (p3 max) increases progressively for single killer and exponentially for every killer. Getting perks you need for the build does not require getting all perks, since you can choose what perk you want from available options. Usually enough to play competitively. <--- this is not part of the current thread argument though