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  • @Jack11803 said:

    @Sarief said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @Jack11803 said:
    @Sarief

    Also, WGLF is not even in the top 5 used perks for survivors. While BBQ is strong #1

    Also, nice job assuming I’m the worst, and that I’m fine cause I DC to save a flashlight. I want the points to get everyone p3, including killers!

    read previous comment. I didn't even assume you bring it in the first place, just pointed that survivors DC to save it, so there is no risk and items can be saved. You want to say it was about you?

    Why’d you even mention it? This is about BP (that can and will be spent on killers) not some flashy stick

    BP = more items/addons + perks + prestige.
    Killers need addons. Survivors don't and even save it.
    less items spent = less BP needed.
    I explained it 3 times, you can't seem to grasp it. wonders

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Delfador said:

    @Jack11803 said: @Jack11803 said: @NextKillerSpongebob said: @Jack11803 said: @NextKillerSpongebob said: @Nickenzie said: Since I seen a lot of fog travelers who wanted to buff WGLF, I wanted to give my 2 cents on it and hopefully you'll agree! WHY IS WGLF WEAK COMPARED TO BBQ? The main reason why WGLF is weak is because the requirement to gain a stack isn't the survivors objective and it's not reliable! On the other hand, BBQ gives you stacks for rewarding the killer for DOING THEIR OBJECTIVE instead of not going out of your way to do something risky such as let's say "Hooking a survivor in the basement to gain a stack". So here are my two suggestions on how we can buff WGLF while being balanced: WGLF: (More Ways to Get Stacks) Your few friends deserve the best protection. Each time you rescue or take a hit to protect a Survivor, repair a generator, stun the killer with a pallet, gain 20 % stackable bonus to all Bloodpoint gains up to a maximum of 60/80/100 %.The Bonus Bloodpoints are only awarded post-trial. WGLF: (A Warning if The Killer is Coming) Your few friends deserve the best protection. Each time you rescue or take a hit to protect a Survivor, gain 25 % stackable bonus to all Bloodpoint gains up to a maximum of 50/75/100 %. When you perform hook rescue, after 3 seconds, receive a notification if the killer is coming to you. The Bonus Bloodpoints are only awarded post-trial. The notification will warn you if the killer is coming by looking at how fast the distance between you and the killer is getting smaller! If the distance between you and the killer is getting small real fast then the notification will go off after 3 seconds but it wouldn't if the distance between you and killer gets bigger or it's inconsistent! Thoughts, opinions? Leave your civil feedback below! :) Sorry for not making your easy game more rewarding. That statement doesn’t make sense. How doesn't it make any sense? The survivors already get rewarded with easy pips and easy pallet loops, why give them a reward for being dicks? Giving more ways to get tokens to discourage farming = rewarding dicks? Also, if you somehow didn’t notice, there’s way to many killers in matchmaking right now. Yet none of them are playing spirit. Care to explain why they are playing killer if it’s not for the new one? Oh right, for points. You are arguing for no reason. What I have learned from this forum is that if the opposite side is biased, there is no way to convince them therefor no reason to continue to debate. This forum is so divided. You can't even want additional ways to get tokens for BPs. Same people also cry about 'strong survivor meta build' which is borrowed time, adrenaline, DS, exhaustion perks etc. If the killer mains think about it a little bit more, if the WGLF gets buffed, survivors will have to sacrifice one perk slot. 1) if you think a little more, if everyone starts taking wgfl it means it's even more broken than DS, adrenaline, self care or Sb

    Bt is long ago in a good spot and not broken

They won't sacrifice, they will just be more broken.

2) you have 4 ways, I'm getting so much done, I would normally have 6-8 tokens in a normal game. Limit is 4 and reaching it is not hard. Git gud



SO BBQ IS BROKEN!? It’s the most used killer perk



Lol, same as wgfl. The only difference you don't need points for survivors, since you can dc to save your purple flashlight ;)

And tell me what is better for killer than wgfl analogue, when killer needs so much points?

    And don't tell me about aura things, it only works for Billy and nurse, and it's so easy to counter, It effectively is wgfl. 

    Since some time I only see survivor using bbq, if he memes

    And to add to it, what does it matter if perk is strong or not on one side in assymetrical game, where goals are different and perk usage as well?)

    I want to own you in this argument. But you keep doing it for me. Like the other people I 

    disagreed and thought they were wrong. But this is just stupid.

    screw the forum formating :D

    keep doing what for you? What other people? Disaggreed with what? what is stupid?

    what you talk about? you don't make sense! to much "this, it, other, they, this" :dizzy:

    I’m saying you’re losing the argument by typing contradicting stuff that proves MY point. And how it’s stupid. The people I disagree with but still make actual sense that’s not a train of emotional wreckage are those above you like zombie genesis

    You might as well tell what points are "contradicting"? no? yes? maybe?

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  • @Jack11803 said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @Sarief said:
    Delfador said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @NextKillerSpongebob said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @NextKillerSpongebob said:

    @Nickenzie said:

    Since I seen a lot of fog travelers who wanted to buff WGLF, I wanted to give my 2 cents on it and hopefully you'll agree!

    WHY IS WGLF WEAK COMPARED TO BBQ?

    The main reason why WGLF is weak is because the requirement to gain a stack isn't the survivors objective and it's not reliable!

    On the other hand, BBQ gives you stacks for rewarding the killer for DOING THEIR OBJECTIVE instead of not going out of your way to do something risky such as let's say "Hooking a survivor in the basement to gain a stack".

    So here are my two suggestions on how we can buff WGLF while being balanced:

    WGLF: (More Ways to Get Stacks)

    Your few friends deserve the best protection. Each time you rescue or take a hit to protect a Survivor, repair a generator, stun the killer with a pallet, gain 20 % stackable bonus to all Bloodpoint gains up to a maximum of 60/80/100 %.The Bonus Bloodpoints are only awarded post-trial.

    WGLF: (A Warning if The Killer is Coming)

    Your few friends deserve the best protection. Each time you rescue or take a hit to protect a Survivor, gain 25 % stackable bonus to all Bloodpoint gains up to a maximum of 50/75/100 %. When you perform hook rescue, after 3 seconds, receive a notification if the killer is coming to you.

    The Bonus Bloodpoints are only awarded post-trial.

    The notification will warn you if the killer is coming by looking at how fast the distance between you and the killer is getting smaller! If the distance between you and the killer is getting small real fast then the notification will go off after 3 seconds but it wouldn't if the distance between you and killer gets bigger or it's inconsistent!

    Thoughts, opinions? Leave your civil feedback below! :)

    Sorry for not making your easy game more rewarding.

    That statement doesn’t make sense.

    How doesn't it make any sense? The survivors already get rewarded with easy pips and easy pallet loops, why give them a reward for being dicks?

    Giving more ways to get tokens to discourage farming = rewarding dicks?

    Also, if you somehow didn’t notice, there’s way to many killers in matchmaking right now. Yet none of them are playing spirit. Care to explain why they are playing killer if it’s not for the new one? Oh right, for points.

    You are arguing for no reason. What I have learned from this forum is that if the opposite side is biased, there is no way to convince them therefor no reason to continue to debate.

    This forum is so divided. You can't even want additional ways to get tokens for BPs. Same people also cry about 'strong survivor meta build' which is borrowed time, adrenaline, DS, exhaustion perks etc. If the killer mains think about it a little bit more, if the WGLF gets buffed, survivors will have to sacrifice one perk slot.

    1) if you think a little more, if everyone starts taking wgfl it means it's even more broken than DS, adrenaline, self care or Sb
    Bt is long ago in a good spot and not broken
    They won't sacrifice, they will just be more broken.
    2) you have 4 ways, I'm getting so much done, I would normally have 6-8 tokens in a normal game. Limit is 4 and reaching it is not hard. Git gud

    SO BBQ IS BROKEN!? It’s the most used killer perk

    You’d think with a trapper profile pic you’d have avoided stepping right into that one

    my mind telling me no... ;)

    ps: traps are broken AF so who cares? :D

    in WGLF BUFF Comment by Sarief

  • @Jack11803 said:

    @Jack11803 said:
    @Sarief

    Also, WGLF is not even in the top 5 used perks for survivors. While BBQ is strong #1

    Also, nice job assuming I’m the worst, and that I’m fine cause I DC to save a flashlight. I want the points to get everyone p3, including killers!

    read previous comment. I didn't even assume you bring it in the first place, just pointed that survivors DC to save it, so there is no risk and items can be saved. You want to say it was about you?

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  • @Jack11803 said:
    @Sarief

    Also, WGLF is not even in the top 5 used perks for survivors. While BBQ is strong #1

    You'd think that would be a reason to think why survivors have 5 more broken perks than wgfl analogue that makes you grind faster ;)

    It's not in top 5 because top 5 is so stupidly broken and survivors don't need to farm to be viable. They don't need items or addons and they even keep them if they survive -_-

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  • Jack11803 said:

    @Sarief said:
    Jack11803 said:

    @Sarief said:

    Delfador said:

    @Jack11803 said:

@Jack11803 said:

@NextKillerSpongebob said:

@Jack11803 said:

@NextKillerSpongebob said:

@Nickenzie said:

Since I seen a lot of fog travelers who wanted to buff WGLF, I wanted to give my 2 cents on it and hopefully you'll agree!

WHY IS WGLF WEAK COMPARED TO BBQ?

The main reason why WGLF is weak is because the requirement to gain a stack isn't the survivors objective and it's not reliable!

On the other hand, BBQ gives you stacks for rewarding the killer for DOING THEIR OBJECTIVE instead of not going out of your way to do something risky such as let's say "Hooking a survivor in the basement to gain a stack".

So here are my two suggestions on how we can buff WGLF while being balanced:

WGLF: (More Ways to Get Stacks)

Your few friends deserve the best protection. Each time you rescue or take a hit to protect a Survivor, repair a generator, stun the killer with a pallet, gain 20 % stackable bonus to all Bloodpoint gains up to a maximum of 60/80/100 %.The Bonus Bloodpoints are only awarded post-trial.

WGLF: (A Warning if The Killer is Coming)

Your few friends deserve the best protection. Each time you rescue or take a hit to protect a Survivor, gain 25 % stackable bonus to all Bloodpoint gains up to a maximum of 50/75/100 %. When you perform hook rescue, after 3 seconds, receive a notification if the killer is coming to you.

The Bonus Bloodpoints are only awarded post-trial.

The notification will warn you if the killer is coming by looking at how fast the distance between you and the killer is getting smaller! If the distance between you and the killer is getting small real fast then the notification will go off after 3 seconds but it wouldn't if the distance between you and killer gets bigger or it's inconsistent!

Thoughts, opinions? Leave your civil feedback below! :)



Sorry for not making your easy game more rewarding.



That statement doesn’t make sense.



How doesn't it make any sense? The survivors already get rewarded with easy pips and easy pallet loops, why give them a reward for being dicks?



Giving more ways to get tokens to discourage farming = rewarding dicks?



Also, if you somehow didn’t notice, there’s way to many killers in matchmaking right now. Yet none of them are playing spirit. Care to explain why they are playing killer if it’s not for the new one? Oh right, for points.



You are arguing for no reason. What I have learned from this forum is that if the opposite side is biased, there is no way to convince them therefor no reason to continue to debate.

This forum is so divided. You can't even want additional ways to get tokens for BPs. Same people also cry about 'strong survivor meta build' which is borrowed time, adrenaline, DS, exhaustion perks etc. If the killer mains think about it a little bit more, if the WGLF gets buffed, survivors will have to sacrifice one perk slot.



1) if you think a little more, if everyone starts taking wgfl it means it's even more broken than DS, adrenaline, self care or Sb

    Bt is long ago in a good spot and not broken

    They won't sacrifice, they will just be more broken.

    2) you have 4 ways, I'm getting so much done, I would normally have 6-8 tokens in a normal game. Limit is 4 and reaching it is not hard. Git gud

    SO BBQ IS BROKEN!? It’s the most used killer perk

    Lol, same as wgfl. The only difference you don't need points for survivors, since you can dc to save your purple flashlight ;)

    And tell me what is better for killer than wgfl analogue, when killer needs so much points?
    And don't tell me about aura things, it only works for Billy and nurse, and it's so easy to counter, It effectively is wgfl. 
    Since some time I only see survivor using bbq, if he memes

    And to add to it, what does it matter if perk is strong or not on one side in assymetrical game, where goals are different and perk usage as well?)

    I want to own you in this argument. But you keep doing it for me. Like the other people I 

    disagreed and thought they were wrong. But this is just stupid.





    screw the forum formating :D


    keep doing what for you? What other people? Disaggreed with what? what is stupid?


    what you talk about? you don't make sense! to much "this, it, other, they, this" :D

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  • oh #########...

    why did I not think of that! that's brilliant :D

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  • Jack11803 said:

    @Sarief said:
    Jack11803 said:

    @Sarief said:

    Jack11803 said:

    @Sarief said: 

Jack11803 said:

    @Sarief said: Jack11803 said:

    @UncannyLuck said:    @Nickenzie said:    WGLF should only award a stack if you perform a safe hook rescue so survivors don't swarm the hook lol.        That would just make BT mandatory for WGLF, unfortunately. WGLF does not need nerfs and that'd qualify as a nerf.        It needs more ways to get tokens, or just require 2 tokens        It's ultra easy to get 4 tokens. 2 are almost guaranteed if you play decently.

    What is the problem with tokens?  You haven’t played enough with it then. Tokens are way harder to get than BBQ. It requires the killer to get hooks to not risk your life (which means they got their BBQ). Protection is bugged to #########. It has no bonus. 4 people are COMPETING, you could die! It’s not the objective! You’re not on gens! ANYTHING ELSE THATS COMMON SENSE I NEED TO LIST? Calm down. What are you talking about? 

    There are 4 ways to get tokens.

1) unhook, the easiest

2) take a hit while killer carries survivor. Second easiest.

3) take a hit near downed or unhooked survivor. This one is harder, since it has know risk

4) while killer is in Chase with you and one other survivor, take a hit. This one is moderately difficult, since killer quickly loses Chase on survivor. Not impossible. Just not guaranteed

What is so hard about that? 



let’s address 1) last. 2) Not always possible, sometimes they ignore you, most killers can get past you. If you block hook, they hook and you’re their next very easy target. Also, it’s bugged 3) They all have risk. This one is both bugged and suicidal. 4) Bugged. This one NEVER works. Other ones do occasionally, this one never works. 1) This would mean BBQ is acquired, thus its easier to get stacks. Not to mention 3 people competing for unhook.



1) lolwut? 

    2) all killer have 4.0 speed when cariying, (except for agitation perk), same as survivor. If they get past you, it's your fault. Wait on hook prompt and they cannot hook until they hit you. Body blocking.

    3) don't want risk - don't play survivor.

    4) it works for me. It's tricky. And you should not really try it. But when is open exit, and you take hit for someone... 

    If you have problem with "bugged" stacks, all for fix, not for freaking buff. Or just admit bring entitled.

    BBQ has its own risk. You give away hook, sure is almost always not shown, making it as useful as wgfl, you still can get lopped for whole match, etc. Wgfl is much easier to get stacks. When I farm, I use survivor. It's much simpler.

    You’re still failing to address how detrimental it is to doing gens, or that people compete.

    Jack11803 said:

    @Sarief said:

    Jack11803 said:

    @Sarief said: 

Jack11803 said:

    @Sarief said: Jack11803 said:

    @UncannyLuck said:    @Nickenzie said:    WGLF should only award a stack if you perform a safe hook rescue so survivors don't swarm the hook lol.        That would just make BT mandatory for WGLF, unfortunately. WGLF does not need nerfs and that'd qualify as a nerf.        It needs more ways to get tokens, or just require 2 tokens        It's ultra easy to get 4 tokens. 2 are almost guaranteed if you play decently.

    What is the problem with tokens?  You haven’t played enough with it then. Tokens are way harder to get than BBQ. It requires the killer to get hooks to not risk your life (which means they got their BBQ). Protection is bugged to #########. It has no bonus. 4 people are COMPETING, you could die! It’s not the objective! You’re not on gens! ANYTHING ELSE THATS COMMON SENSE I NEED TO LIST? Calm down. What are you talking about? 

    There are 4 ways to get tokens.

1) unhook, the easiest

2) take a hit while killer carries survivor. Second easiest.

3) take a hit near downed or unhooked survivor. This one is harder, since it has know risk

4) while killer is in Chase with you and one other survivor, take a hit. This one is moderately difficult, since killer quickly loses Chase on survivor. Not impossible. Just not guaranteed

What is so hard about that? 



let’s address 1) last. 2) Not always possible, sometimes they ignore you, most killers can get past you. If you block hook, they hook and you’re their next very easy target. Also, it’s bugged 3) They all have risk. This one is both bugged and suicidal. 4) Bugged. This one NEVER works. Other ones do occasionally, this one never works. 1) This would mean BBQ is acquired, thus its easier to get stacks. Not to mention 3 people competing for unhook.



1) lolwut? 

    2) all killer have 4.0 speed when cariying, (except for agitation perk), same as survivor. If they get past you, it's your fault. Wait on hook prompt and they cannot hook until they hit you. Body blocking.

    3) don't want risk - don't play survivor.

    4) it works for me. It's tricky. And you should not really try it. But when is open exit, and you take hit for someone... 

    If you have problem with "bugged" stacks, all for fix, not for freaking buff. Or just admit bring entitled.

    BBQ has its own risk. You give away hook, sure is almost always not shown, making it as useful as wgfl, you still can get lopped for whole match, etc. Wgfl is much easier to get stacks. When I farm, I use survivor. It's much simpler.

    You’re still failing to address how detrimental it is to doing gens, or that people compete.

    I can't fix this on mobile :(

    You fail at baby things

    1) two gens is almost 8k points. You can do to gens guaranteed, unless you are tunelled.

    So, you don't need more for points.

    2) blocking killer is rarely competed. Only unhook, but that's not the only way, so stop crying.

    3) your not entitled to 4 stacks, just like killer, you have to earn it. It's not easy for killer, why should it be for you? 

    4) stacks don't matter without points so you still have to do objectives. So gens, if you can't get stacks.

    5) if killer camps, get free 5k escape p points

    6) it killer does not camp you have 6 attempts to get stacks. Someone would be chased, if not you - there is only 1 competitor. You can't seriously argue that you fail to get unhook 6 times with such conditions. 

    7) not everyone the the perk, so don't think many will try to get ahead of you so much

     

    I get 4 stacks with bbq REALLY easily. Other points you made are redundant and I addressed earlier

    You didn't ;)
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  • Jack11803 said:

    @Sarief said:
    Delfador said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @NextKillerSpongebob said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @NextKillerSpongebob said:

    @Nickenzie said:

    Since I seen a lot of fog travelers who wanted to buff WGLF, I wanted to give my 2 cents on it and hopefully you'll agree!

    WHY IS WGLF WEAK COMPARED TO BBQ?

    The main reason why WGLF is weak is because the requirement to gain a stack isn't the survivors objective and it's not reliable!

    On the other hand, BBQ gives you stacks for rewarding the killer for DOING THEIR OBJECTIVE instead of not going out of your way to do something risky such as let's say "Hooking a survivor in the basement to gain a stack".

    So here are my two suggestions on how we can buff WGLF while being balanced:

    WGLF: (More Ways to Get Stacks)

    Your few friends deserve the best protection. Each time you rescue or take a hit to protect a Survivor, repair a generator, stun the killer with a pallet, gain 20 % stackable bonus to all Bloodpoint gains up to a maximum of 60/80/100 %.The Bonus Bloodpoints are only awarded post-trial.

    WGLF: (A Warning if The Killer is Coming)

    Your few friends deserve the best protection. Each time you rescue or take a hit to protect a Survivor, gain 25 % stackable bonus to all Bloodpoint gains up to a maximum of 50/75/100 %. When you perform hook rescue, after 3 seconds, receive a notification if the killer is coming to you.

    The Bonus Bloodpoints are only awarded post-trial.

    The notification will warn you if the killer is coming by looking at how fast the distance between you and the killer is getting smaller! If the distance between you and the killer is getting small real fast then the notification will go off after 3 seconds but it wouldn't if the distance between you and killer gets bigger or it's inconsistent!

    Thoughts, opinions? Leave your civil feedback below! :)

    Sorry for not making your easy game more rewarding.

    That statement doesn’t make sense.

    How doesn't it make any sense? The survivors already get rewarded with easy pips and easy pallet loops, why give them a reward for being dicks?

    Giving more ways to get tokens to discourage farming = rewarding dicks?

    Also, if you somehow didn’t notice, there’s way to many killers in matchmaking right now. Yet none of them are playing spirit. Care to explain why they are playing killer if it’s not for the new one? Oh right, for points.

    You are arguing for no reason. What I have learned from this forum is that if the opposite side is biased, there is no way to convince them therefor no reason to continue to debate.

    This forum is so divided. You can't even want additional ways to get tokens for BPs. Same people also cry about 'strong survivor meta build' which is borrowed time, adrenaline, DS, exhaustion perks etc. If the killer mains think about it a little bit more, if the WGLF gets buffed, survivors will have to sacrifice one perk slot.

    1) if you think a little more, if everyone starts taking wgfl it means it's even more broken than DS, adrenaline, self care or Sb
    Bt is long ago in a good spot and not broken
    They won't sacrifice, they will just be more broken.
    2) you have 4 ways, I'm getting so much done, I would normally have 6-8 tokens in a normal game. Limit is 4 and reaching it is not hard. Git gud

    SO BBQ IS BROKEN!? It’s the most used killer perk

    Lol, same as wgfl. The only difference you don't need points for survivors, since you can dc to save your purple flashlight ;)

    And tell me what is better for killer than wgfl analogue, when killer needs so much points?
    And don't tell me about aura things, it only works for Billy and nurse, and it's so easy to counter, It effectively is wgfl. 
    Since some time I only see survivor using bbq, if he memes

    And to add to it, what does it matter if perk is strong or not on one side in assymetrical game, where goals are different and perk usage as well?)
    in WGLF BUFF Comment by Sarief
  • Delfador said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @NextKillerSpongebob said:

    @Jack11803 said:

    @NextKillerSpongebob said:

    @Nickenzie said:
    Since I seen a lot of fog travelers who wanted to buff WGLF, I wanted to give my 2 cents on it and hopefully you'll agree!

    WHY IS WGLF WEAK COMPARED TO BBQ?

    The main reason why WGLF is weak is because the requirement to gain a stack isn't the survivors objective and it's not reliable!

    On the other hand, BBQ gives you stacks for rewarding the killer for DOING THEIR OBJECTIVE instead of not going out of your way to do something risky such as let's say "Hooking a survivor in the basement to gain a stack".

    So here are my two suggestions on how we can buff WGLF while being balanced:

    WGLF: (More Ways to Get Stacks)
    Your few friends deserve the best protection. Each time you rescue or take a hit to protect a Survivor, repair a generator, stun the killer with a pallet, gain 20 % stackable bonus to all Bloodpoint gains up to a maximum of 60/80/100 %.The Bonus Bloodpoints are only awarded post-trial.

    WGLF: (A Warning if The Killer is Coming)

    Your few friends deserve the best protection. Each time you rescue or take a hit to protect a Survivor, gain 25 % stackable bonus to all Bloodpoint gains up to a maximum of 50/75/100 %. When you perform hook rescue, after 3 seconds, receive a notification if the killer is coming to you.

    The Bonus Bloodpoints are only awarded post-trial.

    The notification will warn you if the killer is coming by looking at how fast the distance between you and the killer is getting smaller! If the distance between you and the killer is getting small real fast then the notification will go off after 3 seconds but it wouldn't if the distance between you and killer gets bigger or it's inconsistent!

    Thoughts, opinions? Leave your civil feedback below! :)

    Sorry for not making your easy game more rewarding.

    That statement doesn’t make sense.

    How doesn't it make any sense? The survivors already get rewarded with easy pips and easy pallet loops, why give them a reward for being dicks?

    Giving more ways to get tokens to discourage farming = rewarding dicks?

    Also, if you somehow didn’t notice, there’s way to many killers in matchmaking right now. Yet none of them are playing spirit. Care to explain why they are playing killer if it’s not for the new one? Oh right, for points.

    You are arguing for no reason. What I have learned from this forum is that if the opposite side is biased, there is no way to convince them therefor no reason to continue to debate.

    This forum is so divided. You can't even want additional ways to get tokens for BPs. Same people also cry about 'strong survivor meta build' which is borrowed time, adrenaline, DS, exhaustion perks etc. If the killer mains think about it a little bit more, if the WGLF gets buffed, survivors will have to sacrifice one perk slot.

    1) if you think a little more, if everyone starts taking wgfl it means it's even more broken than DS, adrenaline, self care or Sb
    Bt is long ago in a good spot and not broken
    They won't sacrifice, they will just be more broken.
    2) you have 4 ways, I'm getting so much done, I would normally have 6-8 tokens in a normal game. Limit is 4 and reaching it is not hard. Git gud
    in WGLF BUFF Comment by Sarief
  • Jack11803 said:

    @Sarief said:
    Jack11803 said:

    @Sarief said: 

    Jack11803 said:

    @Sarief said:

Jack11803 said:

    @UncannyLuck said: @Nickenzie said: WGLF should only award a stack if you perform a safe hook rescue so survivors don't swarm the hook lol. That would just make BT mandatory for WGLF, unfortunately. WGLF does not need nerfs and that'd qualify as a nerf. It needs more ways to get tokens, or just require 2 tokens It's ultra easy to get 4 tokens. 2 are almost guaranteed if you play decently.

    What is the problem with tokens? 



You haven’t played enough with it then. Tokens are way harder to get than BBQ. It requires the killer to get hooks to not risk your life (which means they got their BBQ). Protection is bugged to #########. It has no bonus. 4 people are COMPETING, you could die! It’s not the objective! You’re not on gens! ANYTHING ELSE THATS COMMON SENSE I NEED TO LIST?



Calm down. What are you talking about? 

    There are 4 ways to get tokens.

    1) unhook, the easiest

    2) take a hit while killer carries survivor. Second easiest.

    3) take a hit near downed or unhooked survivor. This one is harder, since it has know risk

    4) while killer is in Chase with you and one other survivor, take a hit. This one is moderately difficult, since killer quickly loses Chase on survivor. Not impossible. Just not guaranteed

    What is so hard about that? 

    let’s address 1) last. 2) Not always possible, sometimes they ignore you, most killers can get past you. If you block hook, they hook and you’re their next very easy target. Also, it’s bugged 3) They all have risk. This one is both bugged and suicidal. 4) Bugged. This one NEVER works. Other ones do occasionally, this one never works. 1) This would mean BBQ is acquired, thus its easier to get stacks. Not to mention 3 people competing for unhook.

    1) lolwut? 
    2) all killer have 4.0 speed when cariying, (except for agitation perk), same as survivor. If they get past you, it's your fault. Wait on hook prompt and they cannot hook until they hit you. Body blocking.
    3) don't want risk - don't play survivor.
    4) it works for me. It's tricky. And you should not really try it. But when is open exit, and you take hit for someone... 

    If you have problem with "bugged" stacks, all for fix, not for freaking buff. Or just admit bring entitled.

    BBQ has its own risk. You give away hook, sure is almost always not shown, making it as useful as wgfl, you still can get lopped for whole match, etc. Wgfl is much easier to get stacks. When I farm, I use survivor. It's much simpler.

    You’re still failing to address how detrimental it is to doing gens, or that people compete.


    Jack11803 said:

    @Sarief said:
    Jack11803 said:

    @Sarief said: 

    Jack11803 said:

    @Sarief said:

Jack11803 said:

    @UncannyLuck said: @Nickenzie said: WGLF should only award a stack if you perform a safe hook rescue so survivors don't swarm the hook lol. That would just make BT mandatory for WGLF, unfortunately. WGLF does not need nerfs and that'd qualify as a nerf. It needs more ways to get tokens, or just require 2 tokens It's ultra easy to get 4 tokens. 2 are almost guaranteed if you play decently.

    What is the problem with tokens? 



You haven’t played enough with it then. Tokens are way harder to get than BBQ. It requires the killer to get hooks to not risk your life (which means they got their BBQ). Protection is bugged to #########. It has no bonus. 4 people are COMPETING, you could die! It’s not the objective! You’re not on gens! ANYTHING ELSE THATS COMMON SENSE I NEED TO LIST?



Calm down. What are you talking about? 

    There are 4 ways to get tokens.

    1) unhook, the easiest

    2) take a hit while killer carries survivor. Second easiest.

    3) take a hit near downed or unhooked survivor. This one is harder, since it has know risk

    4) while killer is in Chase with you and one other survivor, take a hit. This one is moderately difficult, since killer quickly loses Chase on survivor. Not impossible. Just not guaranteed

    What is so hard about that? 

    let’s address 1) last. 2) Not always possible, sometimes they ignore you, most killers can get past you. If you block hook, they hook and you’re their next very easy target. Also, it’s bugged 3) They all have risk. This one is both bugged and suicidal. 4) Bugged. This one NEVER works. Other ones do occasionally, this one never works. 1) This would mean BBQ is acquired, thus its easier to get stacks. Not to mention 3 people competing for unhook.

    1) lolwut? 
    2) all killer have 4.0 speed when cariying, (except for agitation perk), same as survivor. If they get past you, it's your fault. Wait on hook prompt and they cannot hook until they hit you. Body blocking.
    3) don't want risk - don't play survivor.
    4) it works for me. It's tricky. And you should not really try it. But when is open exit, and you take hit for someone... 

    If you have problem with "bugged" stacks, all for fix, not for freaking buff. Or just admit bring entitled.

    BBQ has its own risk. You give away hook, sure is almost always not shown, making it as useful as wgfl, you still can get lopped for whole match, etc. Wgfl is much easier to get stacks. When I farm, I use survivor. It's much simpler.

    You’re still failing to address how detrimental it is to doing gens, or that people compete.



    I can't fix this on mobile :(

    You fail at baby things

    1) two gens is almost 8k points. You can do to gens guaranteed, unless you are tunelled.

    So, you don't need more for points.

    2) blocking killer is rarely competed. Only unhook, but that's not the only way, so stop crying.

    3) your not entitled to 4 stacks, just like killer, you have to earn it. It's not easy for killer, why should it be for you? 

    4) stacks don't matter without points so you still have to do objectives. So gens, if you can't get stacks.

    5) if killer camps, get free 5k escape p points

    6) it killer does not camp you have 6 attempts to get stacks. Someone would be chased, if not you - there is only 1 competitor. You can't seriously argue that you fail to get unhook 6 times with such conditions. 

    7) not everyone the the perk, so don't think many will try to get ahead of you so much

     

    in WGLF BUFF Comment by Sarief
  • Jack11803 said:

    @Sarief said: 
    Jack11803 said:

    @Sarief said:

    Jack11803 said:

    @UncannyLuck said:

@Nickenzie said:

WGLF should only award a stack if you perform a safe hook rescue so survivors don't swarm the hook lol.



That would just make BT mandatory for WGLF, unfortunately. WGLF does not need nerfs and that'd qualify as a nerf.



It needs more ways to get tokens, or just require 2 tokens



It's ultra easy to get 4 tokens. 2 are almost guaranteed if you play decently.

    What is the problem with tokens? 

    You haven’t played enough with it then. Tokens are way harder to get than BBQ. It requires the killer to get hooks to not risk your life (which means they got their BBQ). Protection is bugged to #########. It has no bonus. 4 people are COMPETING, you could die! It’s not the objective! You’re not on gens! ANYTHING ELSE THATS COMMON SENSE I NEED TO LIST?

    Calm down. What are you talking about? 
    There are 4 ways to get tokens.
    1) unhook, the easiest
    2) take a hit while killer carries survivor. Second easiest.
    3) take a hit near downed or unhooked survivor. This one is harder, since it has know risk
    4) while killer is in Chase with you and one other survivor, take a hit. This one is moderately difficult, since killer quickly loses Chase on survivor. Not impossible. Just not guaranteed

    What is so hard about that? 

    let’s address 1) last. 2) Not always possible, sometimes they ignore you, most killers can get past you. If you block hook, they hook and you’re their next very easy target. Also, it’s bugged 3) They all have risk. This one is both bugged and suicidal. 4) Bugged. This one NEVER works. Other ones do occasionally, this one never works. 1) This would mean BBQ is acquired, thus its easier to get stacks. Not to mention 3 people competing for unhook.

    1) lolwut? 
    2) all killer have 4.0 speed when cariying, (except for agitation perk), same as survivor. If they get past you, it's your fault. Wait on hook prompt and they cannot hook until they hit you. Body blocking.
    3) don't want risk - don't play survivor.
    4) it works for me. It's tricky. And you should not really try it. But when is open exit, and you take hit for someone... 

    If you have problem with "bugged" stacks, all for fix, not for freaking buff. Or just admit bring entitled.

    BBQ has its own risk. You give away hook, aura is almost always not shown, making it as useful as wgfl, you still can get lopped for whole match, etc. Wgfl is much easier to get stacks. When I farm, I use survivor. It's much simpler.
    in WGLF BUFF Comment by Sarief
  • KingB said:
    Biggest problem with WGLF is when a killer camps you can't get stacks.
    .. you can get them before letting him hook survivor
    in WGLF BUFF Comment by Sarief
  • Jack11803 said:

    @Sarief said:
    Jack11803 said:

    @UncannyLuck said:

    @Nickenzie said:

    WGLF should only award a stack if you perform a safe hook rescue so survivors don't swarm the hook lol.

    That would just make BT mandatory for WGLF, unfortunately. WGLF does not need nerfs and that'd qualify as a nerf.

    It needs more ways to get tokens, or just require 2 tokens

    It's ultra easy to get 4 tokens. 2 are almost guaranteed if you play decently.
    What is the problem with tokens? 

    You haven’t played enough with it then. Tokens are way harder to get than BBQ. It requires the killer to get hooks to not risk your life (which means they got their BBQ). Protection is bugged to #########. It has no bonus. 4 people are COMPETING, you could die! It’s not the objective! You’re not on gens! ANYTHING ELSE THATS COMMON SENSE I NEED TO LIST?

    Calm down. What are you talking about? 
    There are 4 ways to get tokens.
    1) unhook, the easiest
    2) take a hit while killer carries survivor. Second easiest.
    3) take a hit near downed or unhooked survivor. This one is harder, since it has know risk
    4) while killer is in Chase with you and one other survivor, take a hit. This one is moderately difficult, since killer quickly loses Chase on survivor. Not impossible. Just not guaranteed

    What is so hard about that? 
    in WGLF BUFF Comment by Sarief
  • Milo said:

    @Sarief said:
    It's unusable. First phantom hits, then phantom chainsaw, now phantom hatchets

    Phantom traps soon?

    Phantom traps is already a thing for a year. You never played trapper?
    in The huntress' hatchets? Comment by Sarief
  • Jack11803 said:

    @UncannyLuck said:

    @Nickenzie said:
    WGLF should only award a stack if you perform a safe hook rescue so survivors don't swarm the hook lol.

    That would just make BT mandatory for WGLF, unfortunately. WGLF does not need nerfs and that'd qualify as a nerf.

    It needs more ways to get tokens, or just require 2 tokens

    It's ultra easy to get 4 tokens. 2 are almost guaranteed if you play decently.
    What is the problem with tokens? 
    in WGLF BUFF Comment by Sarief
  • His wife, right?)
    in Who else loves Mathieu Cote? Comment by Sarief
  • Peasant said:

    @Sarief said:
    Can survivors not use every exploit they have? If so, maybe we can talk.
    Soft camp is an efficient killer strategy, so what else killer supposed too do? Give free unhook to survivors who genrush, pallet loop and tbag? Rly?

    I'm just asking you lovely folks to mix it up a bit. Survivors won't be scared of you if they're too busy being upset that they're facing the tenth camper/tunneler of that day.

    How are they supposed to be scared of spirit it they know exactly where she is? And she is ambush killer ;(
    in I understand camping is a valid tactic; but Spirit is bringing out the hard camp in some of you Comment by Sarief
  • Chrona said:

    @Sarief said:
    Oh common, koshka of huntress was translated as kitten, and it still wasn't changed.
    It's based on stereotypes, not actual representations. Just love with it...

    I'm going to live with it....I won't love with it though :3

    Lol, this forum is very bad at autocomplete. It somehow saves things you didn't write and inserts then into text
    in Love the design of the new killer! I have one (minor) problem though Comment by Sarief
  • Also, in PTb it could be shattered if you hit something. Now it's just pung she everything ok ;(
    in Love the design of the new killer! I have one (minor) problem though Comment by Sarief
  • Oh common, koshka of huntress was translated as kitten, and it still wasn't changed.
    It's based on stereotypes, not actual representations. Just love with it...
    in Love the design of the new killer! I have one (minor) problem though Comment by Sarief
  • It's unusable. First phantom hits, then phantom chainsaw, now phantom hatchets
    in The huntress' hatchets? Comment by Sarief
  • It's not, it's "bannable"
    in either give killers a option for forfeit (but keep points) or add a time limit Comment by Sarief
  • Dunno, as killer I always get stuned or pallet is dropped before I even reach the place. 
    As survivor, I get through pallet only if it's laggy killer otherwise I drop it on their heads.

    PS 4.

    But I still miss 3 hits out if ten because of phantom hits :(
    in The pallets are broken...again Comment by Sarief
  • If you think it's not good - don't take it.
    Why should they but already good perk??
    You compare it to BBQ? Well, you can't. It's stronger because it's killer perk.

    Want it buffet? First but all killer perks.
    So far, the most broken perks are for survivors, so why don't you solve that first?
    in WGLF BUFF Comment by Sarief
  • And don't start with claudettes
    in either give killers a option for forfeit (but keep points) or add a time limit Comment by Sarief
  • Always bring whispers
    in either give killers a option for forfeit (but keep points) or add a time limit Comment by Sarief
  • Can survivors not use every exploit they have? If so, maybe we can talk.
    Soft camp is an efficient killer strategy, so what else killer supposed too do? Give free unhook to survivors who genrush, pallet loop and tbag? Rly?
    in I understand camping is a valid tactic; but Spirit is bringing out the hard camp in some of you Comment by Sarief
  • Place traps during chasing them. LolK two birds with one stone. They will not be able to see it and they will use up their flashlight
    in So what do you do as a hag when someone with a flashlight is following you Comment by Sarief
  • Love it all you want. It's stupid as #########
    in I love the new hatchet hitbox for Huntress but Comment by Sarief
  • Swiftblade131 said:

    As long as I can throw over [BAD WORD] cars and pallets without hitting some poorly designed invisible hitbox then its fine!

    What does it matter if you can throw over fence, if Hatchets literally cannot hit survivor?
    in Devs thinking Huntress is overpower! Comment by Sarief
  • alivebydeadight said:

    @Sarief said:

    @Orion said:
    This was neither a buff nor a nerf. It's a fix to hit boxes.

    If it makes hatchets miss survivors hitbox, it's a nerf.
    In video games this hitboxes are designed to not be model for a reason. If it's throwable, that is.

    its a fix, rework not a nerf or buff, its just gonna be removed much quicker because you plebs not knowing how to hit a survivor with hatchets, I always try to hit survivors dead on with hatchets anyway, if you tried to hit a broken hitbox with a hatchet then get good at the game

    Oh master huntress please teach us. So us your road to rank 1 with this huntress.

    For real though you say to get good but also that you use only one trick. I think this is severe case of git gud and learn English.
    in Devs thinking Huntress is overpower! Comment by Sarief
  • Hmm. I think it should just do what wraith's add-on does: allow to discern what gen is worked on and how far
    in Surveillance rework Comment by Sarief
  • Maximus7 said:

    @Dabrownman1812 said:
    Mister_Holdout said:

    I don't really like Huntress and even I think she got screwed.

    They didn't think it was op, but you could aim behind survivors and hit them even when they are behind cover, the hit boxes are wonkey and will take some time.

    Because it wasn't OP. She was never OP unless you combined Iri Head and Infantry Belt (or back before 2.1, double wind-up and Tinkerer). She was perfectly fine, the devs decided to sneak in a hard nerf to her because people like you who couldn't learn how to play against her complained like babies. Good job.

    I think this was "a natural mistake"
    They were fixing chainsaw host hits...
    in Devs thinking Huntress is overpower! Comment by Sarief
  • Dehitay said:

    @Sarief said:

    No, she still hits invisible trucks and pallets, but not survivors

    If they really got rid of the invisible hitboxes on the skinny little survivors, but didn't get rid of the invisible hitboxes on large obstacles with a significantly larger invisible hitbox space that's incredibly unintuitive gameplay-wise, that's extremely unfair. They've made it obvious they have the ability to remove invisible hitboxes for hatches, and then don't do it?

    It was likely side effect of fixing hillbilly chainsaw. And as they can't change it, they just added it to patch notes
    in Huntress Balance before and after Patch Comment by Sarief
  • tehshadowman33 said:

    @Sarief said: no

    @Orion said:

    @Wolf74 said:

    @Smiss said:
    It's cause you're looking at the numbers from a non-statistics point of view, which is understandable cuz not everyone knows statistics well. What you need to consider is that each survivor has a 4% chance to kobe each kobe attempt, not just all of the first phase. To find out the real chance of kobeing, we need to consider it is 3 attempts in total.

    The best way to find this out is by figuring out the chance that the survivor will **NOT ** kobe. Because you have a 4% chance to kobe, you have a 96% chance to fail to each kobe. So 1st attempt, 96% chance to fail. But with the 2nd attempt, we have to keep in mind that you only get a 2nd attempt if you fail to first one, so the odds of failing your first 2 kobe attempts is .96 * .96, then you still have to count the third attempt meaning your total equation is .96 * .96 * .96. doing this gets you about 88.5% for failing all 3 tries, meaning each survivor really has an 11.5% chance to unhook themselves if they try all 3 times. This is just the base chance, including things such as luck offerings, Slippery Meat, and Up The Ante increase their chance of kobeing.

    Actually I do know pretty well how statistics work, that's why I doubt the numbers.
    Even if you break it down mathematically it happens way to often, especially if you see them kobe on the first or 2nd attempt.

    The fact that you think it matters if it's the first or second attempt in any given trial tells me you don't know how statistics work.

    Using a binomial distribution, the odds of 1 or more successes with a 0.04 (4%) probability of success are around 11.5%.
    Assuming that Survivors play 50 trials per day and get 3 attempts on each, that's 150 attempts, which brings P(X>=x) up to 99.78% - a near-certainty that they'll be able to get off the hook.

    This.
    it's not 4%. It's 11.5% without any bonuses. New players have hidden bonus as well.
    Don't trust survivors. They always spout lies. Like "respect 4%" #########.

    @Jack11803
    Source on that "hidden bonus" for new survs?

    Some old thread on forums. Heard it was 25 instead if 4 for be survivors. 
    But as it is hidden.. no official statements, afaik
    in Kobe is happening to often Comment by Sarief
  • Freddy is already weak to everything, so?
    in Deliverance is especially powerful against Freddy Comment by Sarief
  • Dehitay said:

    Does this mean she can throw threw trucks and stuff that had invisible hitboxes before? Or do those invisible hitboxes still block stuff?

    No, she still hits invisible trucks and pallets, but not survivors
    in Huntress Balance before and after Patch Comment by Sarief
  • I was thinking about this.
    So, by default unreal engine has capsules that are simplified representation of characters.it is very big and higher than character sometimes. Or lower.
     If this was what Hatchets were hitting and they decided to change it to actual model...
    It's stupid change, to be honest, and more so, your reasons mentioned, you cannot do that for projectile based attacks.
    If thats how they fixed unfair misses of hillbilly chainsaw I could understand that mistake.
    But hotbox for projectile cannot be model with latency issues. Especially when it's this game...
    in Huntress Balance before and after Patch Comment by Sarief
  • Lol, my single line turned into entire analysis thread :D love it
    in Huntress Balance before and after Patch Comment by Sarief

  • @Tsulan said:
    Sarief said:

    @Tsulan said:

    Sarief said:

    @Orion said:

This was neither a buff nor a nerf. It's a fix to hit boxes.



If it makes hatchets miss survivors hitbox, it's a nerf.

In video games this hitboxes are designed to not be model for a reason. If it's throwable, that is.

    Last stream explained that it was to fix a exploit. 

    I watched the stream, but don't remember anything like that...

    They said that it was possible to throw hatchets through walls. That's why they had to change it. The hatchet hitbox spawns a little further away 

    That was ages ago, wasn't it fixed during clown release?

    in Devs thinking Huntress is overpower! Comment by Sarief

  • @Orion said:

    @Sarief said:

    @Orion said:

    @Sarief said:

    @Orion said:
    This was neither a buff nor a nerf. It's a fix to hit boxes.

    If it makes hatchets miss survivors hitbox, it's a nerf.
    In video games this hitboxes are designed to not be model for a reason. If it's throwable, that is.

    It's a fix with unintended consequences. Fixing the insta-blind flashlights wasn't a nerf to flashlights either.

    .... I might agree with huntress fixing the hatchet hitbox as fix, if it had "unintended consequences".

    but to flashlights it was plain nerf, nothing more.

    No, I mean there was a time when flashlights could instantly blind Killers (visually, on the Killer's screen, but without the in-game effects). A fix to that wasn't a nerf to flashlights any more than a fix to hitboxes was a nerf to the Huntress.

    I didn't use survivor until they fixed flashlights so I didn't know about blinding before being blinded thing. Ok, good to know this was fixed.

    in Devs thinking Huntress is overpower! Comment by Sarief

  • @Tsulan said:
    Sarief said:

    @Orion said:

    This was neither a buff nor a nerf. It's a fix to hit boxes.

    If it makes hatchets miss survivors hitbox, it's a nerf.

    In video games this hitboxes are designed to not be model for a reason. If it's throwable, that is.

    Last stream explained that it was to fix a exploit. 

    I watched the stream, but don't remember anything like that...

    in Devs thinking Huntress is overpower! Comment by Sarief

  • @Orion said:

    @Sarief said:

    @Orion said:
    This was neither a buff nor a nerf. It's a fix to hit boxes.

    If it makes hatchets miss survivors hitbox, it's a nerf.
    In video games this hitboxes are designed to not be model for a reason. If it's throwable, that is.

    It's a fix with unintended consequences. Fixing the insta-blind flashlights wasn't a nerf to flashlights either.

    .... I might agree with huntress fixing the hatchet hitbox as fix, if it had "unintended consequences".

    but to flashlights it was plain nerf, nothing more.

    in Devs thinking Huntress is overpower! Comment by Sarief

  • @Orion said:
    This was neither a buff nor a nerf. It's a fix to hit boxes.

    If it makes hatchets miss survivors hitbox, it's a nerf.
    In video games this hitboxes are designed to not be model for a reason. If it's throwable, that is.

    in Devs thinking Huntress is overpower! Comment by Sarief

  • @Peasant said:
    Like @Sarief said, maybe this is a hidden buff that will make loop hatchets stronger? We will just have to wait and see.

    I doubt it. Have to test, but I think this change is only for survivors -_- so miss survivor, hit everything else

    in Devs thinking Huntress is overpower! Comment by Sarief

  • @DeadByFlashlight said:

    @Wolf74 said:
    Serious… am I supposed to believe it is only a 4% chance?
    Than why do I see it happen soooo often?
    Especially on second last victims?

    Either I am a total RNG mischief or some numbers need to get checked.

    There is a new perk granting 100% kobe.
    All you can do is stay a bit closer to the hook now :wink:

    if you have bonus to luck it's 101%. since 101% is impossible,it becomes 1%. Nice perk btw :D

    in Kobe is happening to often Comment by Sarief

  • Adjusted the collision surrounding the Huntress' hatchets so it is more accurate to their shape
    *Post edited by Patricia on September 19

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/20152/patch-notes-2-2-0-shattered-bloodline

    well, I can only say one thing.
    sad

    Why do this? Even Overwatch does not do things like that. The lag is real :(

    in Huntress Nerf conclusion Comment by Sarief

  • @Orion said:

    @Wolf74 said:

    @Smiss said:
    It's cause you're looking at the numbers from a non-statistics point of view, which is understandable cuz not everyone knows statistics well. What you need to consider is that each survivor has a 4% chance to kobe each kobe attempt, not just all of the first phase. To find out the real chance of kobeing, we need to consider it is 3 attempts in total.

    The best way to find this out is by figuring out the chance that the survivor will **NOT ** kobe. Because you have a 4% chance to kobe, you have a 96% chance to fail to each kobe. So 1st attempt, 96% chance to fail. But with the 2nd attempt, we have to keep in mind that you only get a 2nd attempt if you fail to first one, so the odds of failing your first 2 kobe attempts is .96 * .96, then you still have to count the third attempt meaning your total equation is .96 * .96 * .96. doing this gets you about 88.5% for failing all 3 tries, meaning each survivor really has an 11.5% chance to unhook themselves if they try all 3 times. This is just the base chance, including things such as luck offerings, Slippery Meat, and Up The Ante increase their chance of kobeing.

    Actually I do know pretty well how statistics work, that's why I doubt the numbers.
    Even if you break it down mathematically it happens way to often, especially if you see them kobe on the first or 2nd attempt.

    The fact that you think it matters if it's the first or second attempt in any given trial tells me you don't know how statistics work.

    Using a binomial distribution, the odds of 1 or more successes with a 0.04 (4%) probability of success are around 11.5%.
    Assuming that Survivors play 50 trials per day and get 3 attempts on each, that's 150 attempts, which brings P(X>=x) up to 99.78% - a near-certainty that they'll be able to get off the hook.

    This.
    it's not 4%. It's 11.5% without any bonuses. New players have hidden bonus as well.
    Don't trust survivors. They always spout lies. Like "respect 4%" #########.

    in Kobe is happening to often Comment by Sarief

  • short answer: no

    in Possible to get all perks without leveling teachable? Comment by Sarief
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