Why would people get mad about pride charm?
I'm just making this discussion because twitter is exploding with people who loved the charm and homophobics who didn't like it.
I fully support behavior by introducing this charm. They not only shows great support from the company, but also the way that they introduced this theme to the game. In a simple and responsible way and at no time did they seem to be trying to earn social points.
But I wanted to understand more from people who don't agree with this charm. what is the problem so profound with this being in the game?
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because gay is bad, gay is political, gay shouldn't be in dbd we should leave it out think of the children. think of the religion. no gay, gay big bad. delete the homos.
(before people say anything about the religion one that's someone's genuine tweet)
Because people love starting [BAD WORD].
People are just so messy
Because sexuality should be left out of Videogames and political statements as well.
don’t mind heterosexuality though. That one is completely accepted. And despite being LGBTQ+ isn’t even political those people didn’t have a problem with actual political lore introduced like Zarinas and Yuis. But well. Uhm. It’s a horror game and thus… wait..
yeah there is no argument against it.. damn..
Pretty much this.
Because many (not all) gamers are immature (or actual kids) and they either like to troll or they’re bigots with nothing better to do.
that became obviosu when they all put cringe in the dbd live chat when announcing the charm
It's against my religion but I don't care if they add more stuff supporting LGBTQ
I'm not sure but we definitely needed another topic about this.
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They keep getting merged and closed. What else can we do?
Sarcasm
honestly
People get mad over stuff like t-bagging. That should indicate some people are very fragile and don't want their worldview interrupted by something else.
Thanks, it's just what I think
That is pretty much it, to be honest.
Bc people are mad that lgbt people have the audacity to exist...as usual.
Dont know. I get mad honestly only after news that only killers could be banned if they decide to tunnel/camp/slug/mori/hit on a hook a survivor with the charm, cause consideres harass racism (even if the killer doesnt know/see the little charm/ play in theese way vs every survivor, like they teabagging... And also no consideration of the possibility of a survivor with that charm to harass the killer... Survivor armor plot by devs).
Probably because it makes them uncomfortable for whatever reason and they therefore don’t want to see it in a game they enjoy. They’d prefer to not have to deal with those feelings while playing this game and the charm is a reminder so it doesn’t let them do that.
I think it’s a little different. I’m going to play devil’s advocate here. Heterosexuality is not being celebrated with heterosexuals month, heterosexual parades, or heterosexual-themed items, etc.
No, heterosexuals have a constant stream of representation in media. Conversion therapy doesn't exist for heterosexuals. Heterosexuals aren't illegal in 79 countries. Heterosexuals don't suffer significantly higher rates of hate crime and suicide. Heterosexuals aren't persecuted for existing.
Pride exists because of what people have put LGBT+ people through in the past, and still do today. Conversion therapy is still legal and practiced in many first world countries. Hell in 2018 Theresa May, PM of the UK, said she would ban it. It's taken a different PM, who said he would ban it in 2020, until 2021 to enter it into consultation which will "Seek to protect religious freedoms" over LGBT+ lives.
Heterosexuals don't have to fear for their lives for being born a certain way. That's why there's no "Straight pride" and there's no month. Because you aren't at risk of death for being yourself.
Heterosexuals don't need anything. LGBT+ people do.
Because we haven’t advanced as a society as much as we like to believe we have.
As an example, there is more available information of just how destructive smoking is to ones health, and more and more studies emerging that vaping is just as unhealthy.
Yet there is STILL young people taking these habits up despite (in theory) knowing better.
There are constant, CONSTANT campaigns about how important it is to drive sensibly, sober, and distraction free, and TONNES of evidence (usually in news feeds) showing the devastating effects of car accidents. And yet people STILL drink and drive. People STILL use their phones while driving. People STILL disregard road safety rules/guidelines and do completely reckless things.
People are stupid. They’re destructive to themselves, and that extends to being destructive towards others.
^ this tbh
A lot of people are very ignorant, and like to make a big deal out of nothing. Twitter is also a cesspool, and should be ignored. If anybody doesn’t like the charm, don’t play the game, easy.
Some people generally feel uncomfortable around LBTQ flags and people. Also, it is against some religions. Most of the time it is being homophobic and ignorant.
Just ignore it, avoid these topics if it helps. I have my own feelings on this, mostly out of concern because I've noticed a worrisome mindset... but you're only going to get your account banned. Not like that username probably isn't ban-worthy.
What does the player behind the controllers sexuality have to do with the game anyway. I don't care about your sexuality, I care if you are going to catch me or evade my demon strike.
Let me direct you to the comment I quoted above. There's a rason we flaunt our existence and it's because of what we've been through in the past.
Yes we need a flag. Yes we need a parade. Straight people don't do that because they're the ""normal"" and constantly represented. If you think us existing and demanding equal treatment is obnoxious then start working on your time machine to go back to when homophobia was normal. Or move to the Middle East.
To be fair..
If chu found that tweet on twitter.
...Then you should know,
It's Twitter "Shudders"
Because they’re homophobic
I don't go to these parades. The nudity doesn't make me comfortable but I'm well aware it's a very important part of Pride. There are adult sections where the sex happens and, yes, while people walk around in leather nothing explicit happens outside of these adult sections.
This doesn't change the importance of them, nor the oppression still faced by LGBT people today. This doesn't change anything about my point.
You're deflecting.
I know I use it quite a lot
Same tbh...
But i very RARELY tweet lest it's my streams,
and when i mean RARELY,
It's Once In A Blue Moon
Also. been a hot minute. how chu been? =D
Everything you just said is pretty much spot on for me. It comes a point where you feel you'll get banned because you Moried someone who is LGBT+ and took it as a hate crime. Some will laugh but yea, it does feel this extreme to some heterosexuals.
Provocative imagery exists in nearly every form of public protest or celebration regardless of the community or the cause. To an outsider peering in it looks shocking because it's supposed to be. It's hardly exclusive to pride parades and is actually one of the more peaceful ways that this tactic has been used.
It is the equivalent to women burning bras and marching topless during a woman's rights event or people burning flags during an anti-government protest - these displays are meant to draw attention/controversy and then spark conversation or later thought.
to avoid going completely off topic ive responded on your wall.
Because heterosexuals haven't been hung from trees or dragged through the streets or killed because they were heterosexual. Heterosexuals aren't an oppressed minority so they don't need to have any of those things.
Idk twitter is just weird never been a fan of it. But calling people homophobes isn't gonna help. Instead of calling them that maybe you can help educate them.
i like it
:)
Change people to Twitter and this is correct.
You're comparing parade to protest and the two aren't the same.
For the same reason some people get mad if you don't support the pride charm, it's just insecurity and petty entitlement.
Well said and far more accurate than I wish it were.
Because people suck.
Hmmm, uncertain this is correct. Isn't Pride month inclusive to all, including heterosexuals that want to help the cause? Also, I do not think homosexual and otherwise are really excluded from anything where I'm from.
It's almost like Heterosexuals were never discriminated against and forced to hide in a closet and had their rights denied to them or something.
in my opinion it's kind of silly to pin things like this on one group of people.
That's about all I can come up with. I know that they're not the same thing but I could see similar controversy arising from a "pro-life" or "pro-choice" charm. Neither would fly without a lot of argument.
Heterosexuality is celebrated and supported 12 months a year, and we can’t even have one month without controversy.
I'm a bit annoyed because it's just a charm. I'm not mad that the charm exists, I just don't think that we should applaud minimum effort. They could at least have released a bunch of recolours with various flags.
Pride events actually started from a place of protest! 😊 At least in the USA, I am not well-versed in the worldwide development of pride events. But originally when Pride events began to be organized it was a form of protest against previously being an unseen minority which were forced to remain hidden for their own safety.
By having a pride event LGBT+ people could meet one another and find a sense of community, they could lift one another up, and they could protest against their place in society by saying, "We are here, we will be seen." Nowadays the pride events are much more of a celebration in the USA but the shock-value culture behind it is cemented in what I described in my other post.
And yes, sometimes the sexuality of it all is a little more base but hey... Humans are horny. That's not new either. 🤣