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You want to know what's funny?
In Dead Dawg Saloon, if you drop down inside from the second floor where the breakable wall is next to the generator, you will land on a table. Now all you need is to bring Sable, and there is the joke, right there in plain sight.
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delete this post.
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@radiantHero23 said:
"Critisism is fine, it's welcome"
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News to me.
Edit: don't get me wrong, throwing insults around is not how you have a constructive discussion. It's fine to call this out. But if the forums became known for one thing over the last year, then it's that the team at bhvr cannot take critisism at all.
Like "The Thread" incident?
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@Raino said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4094477#Comment_4094477
Same. All I could do is not contributing to the player count and leave my opinion in form of steam review. Not that it's probably going to be visible to anyone but it made me a feel a tad bit better to write paragraphs how I feel about this game in general and this event in particular too.
One minute of silence for the 10th anniversary plans of playing I had for this game and cakes to collect so I can use them with my beginner friend and get her into the game more.
Because there is no chance it will get better? Is there?
Not unless they do something about the unbalanced game mode and fixes the cakes to spawn as much as they did in previous events. Not some scripted BS, artificially limiting the supply
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@YaBoi0215 said:
I don't know if the issue is my where I'm at in MMR or just getting crappy matches but I have had the worst time in the event. Every match is just Killers hard sweating for the 4k, tunneling, proxy camping the entire time. Or it's survivors just hard genrushing from the start and nobody in the lobby interacting with the event. If I wanted to hard sweat and win every match then I would just playing regular 1v4 without all the wacky and goofy stuff. Which is exactly what I've gone back to doing. I just don't see why it's so hard to just have any sort of fun in this game. Everybody treats every match as life or death. As if they lose this match they won't win million dollars or their family will perish.
All I ask from the community is to just have fun. Enjoy the wacky and silly things that you can do in the event. Have fun with the other people in the game that you normally would be at odds with. These events are meant to bring people together and to have laughs and farm BPs. I've had 2-3 matches so far where I've honestly had a wonderful time. Using the invis or the invul to make plays, lose killers, and do other funny things. Did I escape? Nope. Do I care? Absolutely not. The event isn't meant for winning. It's meant for fun and goofs. Just go have fun and goof around with each other. I promise you'll enjoy it more and you won't raise your cortisol trying to hard sweat in a mode where somebody can invul sabo your hook and auto pick the whole team up with a banquet table.
Every event queue is like this, and has been like this since they divided the queues during events.
MMR certainly doesn't help either, and neither did the finisher moris they introduced last year. -
@Wibwob said:
I don't like that cake drops have become a system instead of random occurrences. Maximising cakes has become a chore.
In an ideal world, this should never be the case.
I genuinely have no clue what the actual reasoning is behind this highly unnecessary change, that was made to anger the playerbase. -
@Wezqu said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4094127#Comment_4094127
Its more likely more because them being Very Rare level makes them more likely to appear in the P100 characters bloodwebs thing that people complained in other events of not getting event offerings on them and in this one nobody has complained of that so it seems to be working.
They should never have tampered with the rarity in the first place. Through Year 8 (Screech Cobbler), these event cakes and event items had a unique "Event" rarity that didn't affect the normal drop table.
This got changed last year, when they changed the entire rarity system, but at least the cakes were common, and perfectly grindable for players wishing to get their characters to P100, and have leftovers that would usually last the year, and also to help other players who were in the same lobby.
This year however, they flipped the script completely, made cakes so infrequent, they might as well have been Bloody Party Streamers. Not only do we get WAY less cakes in total, but the time investment needed to get them is too much for most players. That is why we are angry about this whole change, which was totally unnecessary, because it disrespects peoples' time. Not everyone can afford, or want to sit and grind for several full days, just to maybe get enough cakes to last the next cycle.
And here is the kicker: Due to the limited supply of cakes, people are refusing to use them for the matches played during the event.
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Karen Sable would like a word with you.
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@Wezqu said:
Its fine you guys are being greedy. Got about 60 on two prestige levels so I am fine with that.
It's not about being greedy, it's about the SIGNIFICANT reduction from previous years that is the main issue.
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@Mikeadatrix said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4093933#Comment_4093933
This is from last year, we have plenty of reasons to be angry but this is not applicable to the BS Torte situation.
Wait, what? Still, it is not a good outlook to have.
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Soo… apparently the devs has confirmed on Reddit that the cake nerfs are intentional.
WHAT THE ACTUAL F… IS THIS A CRUEL JOKE BHVR?
Someone needs to be fired over this.
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@NeverSolus said:
They nuked it to about half its commonality from previous events. It's much better now than it was, but still at about 50% output from what I can tell.
It's more like 20% for survivor and 25% for killer as compared to previous years
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More data sourced on cakes. Using the auto-spend feature netted 20 cakes for survivor, and 26 for killer.
On average, 1 prestige level (50 levels) cost 1.1 million BP.Still, just a drop in the ocean when compared to previous years, when getting over 100 cakes per prestige was the norm.
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It is indeed a step in the right direction, but we still need the rates to be on par (or better, because 10th anniversary) than previous years.
Source: @NeverSolus
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@DonZwiebel said:
I will just stop using this years cakes as there are far to few of them to get. Better keep them for my collection on my main and use BPS instead. Which are more common than the event offerings.
This is like the opposite of what we have seen every other year.
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@Nazzzak said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4093474#Comment_4093474
Yeah I was seeing only a couple per match, so one match i didn't bring one and everyone else did. I felt so bad lol
Like I suspected would happen. We are going to see diminished BP gains from this event, as a result of this decision.
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Yeah, those rewards makes zero sense for the massive amount of work.
Wonder what individual over at BHVR hates the playerbase to that extent, that we are only receiving measly scraps for the community event. I would have expected at least 1,000 Iri Shards and 1 million BP. We are celebrating the 10 year anniversary after all. Yet, the rewards for anything so far has been abysmal. -
@Wezqu said:
Like also the fact is that I feel like the Very Rare rarity makes the cakes more likely to appear on bloodweb. My reasoning is because there is only about six Very Rare offerings on both sides. There is about 11 offerings on the common level so to me it makes it more likely to see the event offering to appear on the Very Rare offering slot on bloodweb than its chance to appear on the common offering slot because there is more possible offerings to appear on that Common slot than there is on the Very Rare one.
Still it might get balanced by there being more common offering spot on bloodwebs but I don't have data on that.
It wasn't that uncommon to see 2-3 cakes per level in the previous years.
@Cornil said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4093220#Comment_4093220
You never see killers bringing bloody party streamers it feels like. There’s not much of a point unlike survivor where you might queue with some friends and wanna help them out. If killers ever bring anything that benefits survivors it’s anniversary cakes, because they’re so common. Now they get maybe 1/5 of what they normally would, which hurts survivors more than killers since pudding offerings are only uncommon rarity and not terribly hard to get.
I see it happen ever so often. Killer players can be generous as well.
I for one rarely queue without a Party Streamer (or cakes when I have them), because I know the hardship of the endless grind in this game. -
@Cornil said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4093181#Comment_4093181
I am especially curious as to what BHVR’s thinking was. Someone mentioned it was to prevent “hoarding a thousand offerings from the anniversary,” but is raising the rarity from lowest to second highest the solution to that? Is it a problem that needs a solution to begin with? The character you get the offerings on you’re forced to play to use the offerings, they aren’t interchangeable. If you manage to play the game enough during the anniversary, don’t you deserve the thousand offerings? It’s the most hype time of the year for the game in terms of new content. Perhaps they thought making players need more playtime to get the offerings would make them play more. But it’s likely the inverse, players will be discouraged to grind, the rewards aren’t worth it.
Theoretically, they could’ve just made the rarity uncommon instead of common across the board for anniversary items and the backlash would’ve been maybe a tenth of what they’re receiving now. But I’m of the shared opinion that no change was needed at all. Survivors can get commodious toolboxes frequently if they manually use their bloodweb anyway, and killers will just bring puddings instead of anniversary cakes since there’s no difference on their end. Killers don’t play with anyone else in the lobby, why should they care if the rest of the players get an extra 100 percent? This update guts at least half of the enjoyment found in the anniversary celebration.
It has never been a problem during previous years. So why would they change it now?
And you are absolutely right about this decision is more discouraging than helpful for player engagement. We grind enough for Bloody Party Streamers as it is. The cakes used to help a lot in making the grind tolerable, and to be honest, shareable BP offerings are a blessing. I really don't like the personal ones, because sharing is caring. And caring is positive. -
@Cornil said:
I play both sides equally. I used all of my offerings on killer from the year 8 anniversary to get Alan Wake to prestige 100. My career hours on survivor is a good 25% higher at least than killer. And yet, I tend to side more with killer lately, because outside of the S tier characters, the game is in a pretty noxious state (assuming MMR is working properly). Equal skill survivors obliterate equal skilled killers on the majority of maps when the killer isn’t in the top 5 strength-wise.
Yes, it is undoubtably true that survivors get less anniversary cakes than killer. It’s been that way for all offerings since forever. Survivors have numerous items they can get, each of which have 5 to 10 addons they could use. Meaning not only can survivors get every kind of rarity item, but the addons for them. It over-saturates the blood web greatly for them. BUT, in regard to the anniversary, survivors also get flashlights and med kits pretty freely (or at least before the rarity change right now) and commodious toolboxes (the best kind) basically for free. There is some compensation for survivors getting less anniversary cakes, as the items they get are generally good. This update ruins some of that as well. Like, why is a standard anniversary flashlight, which is uncommon, now rare? Just because it’s got cosmetic changes for the anniversary? It doesn’t make much sense.
Killers have one power, far less addons to deal with, so their blood webs are far less cluttered, meaning a higher chance of getting anniversary cakes. However I’d say that this update to the rarities has royally screwed over both sides pretty equally. Survivor items are now harder to get, and killers best addons now have to compete with an overglorified bloody party streamer. It’s hardly fair to anyone.Very well said sir. This really highlights the problems that changing rarities cause.
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@Balrog said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4093156#Comment_4093156
I am not aware of any issues of cakes in the bloodweb, only Bloodweb Errors from earlier.
The rarity is wrong.
They should be common (brown) and cost 2000 BP in the bloodweb. Like every cake from every other year.
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Scratched Mirror Myers.
Just be movie-acurate, and collect those sweet jump scares whenever the opportunity arises. -
@TropesDaMan said:
Balrog just said the bloodweb issues may be resolved already guys
The bloodweb issues yes, but not the glaring mistake of making cakes the wrong rarity, negatively affecting drop rates.
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@Reinami said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4093107#Comment_4093107
And you immediately said: "
But yes, survivor bloodwebs does have more event items in total, and if those items are going to clutter the bloodwebs, resulting in even less cakes, then we have a major problem on our hands.
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So again, you said:
"it sucks for everyone, but also it sucks worse for x side"
Again i ask you.
Are you completely incapable of just saying: "BHVR, this sucks for everyone, fix it" without bringing sides into something that is just objectively bad for everyone and has nothing to do with sides? This is precisely why this community is so completely utterly screwed up, because everyone boils EVERYTHING down to "sides"
Then don't make a big deal out of someone saying one side might be worse for cakes. It sucks for everyone, sure.
For context, I did drop around 400k points on killer manually, and I saw maybe 4-5 cakes in that amount spent.
That equals to around 80-100k BP spent per cake, or 2-3 levels in the later stages, which is an atrocious drop-rate for an item that we used to get multiples of per bloodweb in prior years, regardless of the side you were spending points on.I have yet to find out how bad the survivor bloodweb is, but if it really is as bad as it sounds, then I will probably skip it entirely.
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@Reinami said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4093102#Comment_4093102
Are you completely incapable of just saying: "This sucks for everyone" without being like: "but also it sucks more for one side" just say it sucks for everyone.
Refer to my original post in the thread. I said more than just that, on behalf of all players, regardless of whatever side they main.
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@Reinami said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4092948#Comment_4092948
Why is it that you people have to constantly turn things into an "us vs them" It sucks for both man.
It's not just an "us vs them" thing. This is about everyone.
But yes, survivor bloodwebs does have more event items in total, and if those items are going to clutter the bloodwebs, resulting in even less cakes, then we have a major problem on our hands. -
@pidgeon said:
Kinda disappointing, I thought people were over exaggerating about the offerings being harder to find then I manually spent 3 prestiges and got 19 cakes. At least make them Rare or Uncommon if you don't want them to pop up 24/7 this is genuinely such a low amount compared to previous years.
The cakes are the only reason why people play during the event and now people have less of a reason to play.
The primary reason for sure
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@AbsolutGrndZer0 said:
This change was made last year too, actually. They said back then that yes, it's intended because they don't want you to have thousands left over after the event like previous years.
Which, for other events where the items are locked to the event that makes sense, but for anniversary cakes that have always been able to be used all year round, that's BS.Makes zero sense for event cakes as they are shareable, and usable all year long.
Probably also a reason to avoid bulk spending as the logic prioritizes cheap items and offerings first. Since very rare items are 4000 BP instead of 2000, the logic will avoid the cakes. -
@BruceCampbell said:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/HSWOBR7UBBAL/image.png
My Leon after giving him only 17 prestigies on year 8.
Look at how many cakes he have!Those were good times.
Year 7 and Year 8 were really good for cakes, and I managed to gather over 1200 cakes both years. -
@bm33 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4092989#Comment_4092989
I take long breaks from DBD, I come back for 2v8 and events if they seem worth my time. Current state of this event doesn't feel like it's worth logging into the game.
While I play more regularly, I am willing to wait until this gets fixed.
Hopefully it will be worth our time in the end. -
They tried making cakes "visceral" (ultra-rare) last year. That didn't turn out well, as we pretty much had the same discussion back then.
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@yurlner349 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4092989#Comment_4092989
I wonder if dbd continues on before the games code is rewritten from scratch, and even then there is hoping the code is programmed correctly.
It will most likely continue on, but the handling of the event has been anything but good so far.
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@bm33 said:
I feel like they've handled a milestone anniversary very poorly. People were saying it felt lackluster a month ago but the response was "wait until the event." Now its the event and the main thing people look forward to is "very rare." It doesn't feel like a celebration.
It feels like a kick in the groin to be brutally honest. Paired with all of the bugs that has shown up today. Bloodweb not working properly, event currency goes missing, unlocked items disappearing from inventory, and so on.
This whole start of the event has been a nightmare.
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@Zboard said:
Anyone spent the 10million to know how many cakes does that yield?
I spent mine beforehand.
And I got to spend around 400k BP today before I gave up because the bloodweb kept bugging out.
Though, on average, I saw one cake every third web or so. -
@TurnOffTheTVs said:
I'm glad that the freakazoids we have developing this video game are clearly more worried about people getting "too much" of the event offering (basically the only thing everyone cares about these events for anyway) as opposed to actually important matters regarding this game.
We love priorities.
Yeah, the cakes are the one thing that players are really looking forward to, after having slogged through a full year of tunneling, taunting and mediocre events with personal offerings.
@TropesDaMan said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/469143/bad-play-bhvr-massive-cake-rant
i was so hyped too, i was gonna gather cakes to do my first P100 grind. now im not sure if i want to do that lol. Im barely getting any cakes.
I am willing to wait until the situation changes. I also got jaw-dropped when I saw the community goal for the event, being 100 million trials played.
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@Knightofzer0 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4092904#Comment_4092904
This is generally awful, maybe even malicious, every year they are nerfed. Whats the point.
They tried it last year as well, and got massive backlash from doing so. Still no idea why they are trying the same this year, and hoping that people would magically stop complaining about it.
Though I have been keeping track of how many cakes I have gathered each year, since year 6.
Year 6 (Frightful Flan): ~800 or so.
Year 7 (Terrormisu): ~1200+
Year 8 (Screech Cobbler): ~1200+
Year 9 (Coconut Scream Pie): ~900 or so. -
@TropesDaMan said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4092928#Comment_4092928
this is why i didnt save those bp for cakes
I didn't either. I spent them on leveling the killer and the survivor I am currently working on prestiging.
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@TropesDaMan said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/469135/i-am-not-getting-cakes
they made the cakes very rare instead of common for the event. people everywhere are upset
I knew about this beforehand, as I saw a leaked image of the offering, which turned out to be true. I knew this was going to cause uproar.
Here is a normal event offering as a comparison. Common, as it should be.
Why are these Very Rare? It really does not make any sense.
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Here is your problem sir.
Do you see what is unusual, as opposed to every previous year? -
@Drakosal said:
Has someone else the problem?
I claimed my 100 Login Reward, it doesn`t show up. Even after closing the game and restarting steam.Same happened here.
Claimed the rewards, went into the bloodweb to start gathering cakes, and then I got kicked out to the startup screen. Came back and all my currency was gone. -
The problem lies here. They made the cakes purple rarity, while normally, event cakes should be common (brown)
This is a normal event offering.
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I noticed this myself, and it keeps saying that there is an error when updating your bloodweb, which then send you back to the startup screen (reconnect)
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Blast Mine (Jill) is a great perk for BP. Guaranteed 900 boldness BP if the killer decides to kick your gen.
And like others has mentioned, great skillchecks is a good way of earning BP fast.
Stakeout (Tapp) is great for this scenario, since you are guaranteed 4 greats (1200 BP) if you have it fully stackedUnhooking and healing other survivors is also a must when going for max BP, since you get 1000 for the unhook itself, and 1500 for a safe unhook bonus (2500 per unhook), and 1000 BP for a full heal. It's generally easy to max out altruism if you are going for it.
If you are good in chases, this is a great way to earn big BP fast.
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@cogsturning said:
Only if they were 100% verified to be legitimate. Otherwise people will just report everyone. We already have people that confuse perks for cheating.
If replays were a thing, a similar system to the old Overwatch feature from Counter-Strike, or the Tribunal from League of Legends could have been an option.
A way for players to review cases, and submit verdicts based on the evidence.
These systems used to work really well, and hunting cheaters/pottymouths was a fun pastime.You were usually given a couple options in your verdicts, like "evident beyond a reasonable doubt" (usually led to a permanent ban if the majority voted for this), "pardon/not enough evidence to suggest" (suspect goes free) or "minor infractions" (timed ban and/or chat restriction of up to 1 month)
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@UnicornMedal said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4092089#Comment_4092089
What does that have to do with anything? Those are custom games with a tiny, curated group of players. Even if we were to take it into account, how often does it happen? More than 50%? What do the hook states look like?
Not to mention that in comp play, certain perks are banned as well.
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@Thusly_Boned said:
Well sure, generally speaking, solo queue surv is the clearly the hardest role to play in DBD, but "playing soloq survivor is infinitely harder than Killer ever could be"? That's too much hyperbolic generalization.
I mean I've only played surv solo since 2020, but I'm here to tell you that playing a D-tier killer on a bad map against strong survs is worse. It's the most helpless I've felt in DbD, and I've played this game from just about any angle possible.
But that's the thing; playing killer isn't as consistent an experience as playing surv is. How hard it is varies wildly based on the killer you're using and the maps you get. Playing Blight on Fallen Refuge or Nurse on Midwich? Cakewalk, a trained monkey can win.
But try Myers on Badham, Onryo on Mother's Dwelling or Trapper on Eyrie against survs who aren't braindead and you will know pain.Myers isn't that bad on Badham, especially if you use Scratched Mirror. Ironically enough, the amount of times the houses and the school are more detrimental than helpful against SM Myers is hilariously high. Sure, patroling the street is hard, but when you get to hold the houses locked down, it is fairly easy to foil the survivors.
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@TropesDaMan said:
just had a survivor match against this sweaty ghoul, kept tunneling me off hook until at one point this Feng drops a pallet im running to, trapping me and the Ghoul downs me but just stares at the feng and me. He then decides to let me wiggle off and proceeds to fly away and slaughter the Feng and the rest of my team. He then gave me hatch and gave me a few nods.
Kaneki wasnt standing for that bs today
(the feng ran over and slammed a pallet in front of me, then tbagged me, thats right not the killer! me! even pointing her flashlight at me, and clicking it. Not to mention my team blantantly refused to heal me and kept running away from where i went))
I guess they have also fallen victim to trolling teammates, and were able to catch it happening to you.
One time I played killer, there was one survivor who tried leading me to another who were just hiding away, clearly afraid, since I was on a roll that match. I ended up killing the one who was ratting the other one out, and I gave the last one hatch. -
@Reinami said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4092229#Comment_4092229
It functions exactly the same as wraith. Are you gonna be working a gen while injured against a wraith? or are you gonna go play passively?
At least you can see and hear Wraith approaching, which isn't the case with Jason.
That gives you ample time to react. Jason is on top of you the moment he appears, and you are almost guaranteed to be hit. -
@MoZo said:
not exactly a perk but i really miss pre 9.3.0 syringes. i loved the little mini game during the chase where both killer and survivor had to lock-in during that 24 second time period to either prevent the syringe or pulling off the syringe. nowadays it’s just very dull to use. like “wow i stood still and immediately got my SB back so now i can hold w to the next filler” is nowhere near as fun and enjoying as the old heal-over-time syringe.
for an actual perk, i’d have to say spine chill. that perk was amazing for all skill levels. it helped newer and intermediate players be aware of a killer approaching them while also giving the more experienced players a nice vault speed in chase. the perk has been dead since that rework 4 years ago and it’s sad that it doesn’t seem like the devs are planning to bring it back into the light anytime soon.
I was to mention Spine Chill as well.
A perk that was frequently used back in the old days of DBD, that got absolutely destroyed by 6.1.0, and nerfed into non-existense.
Another good contender is Boon: Circle of Healing. Though it still sees use to this day, the removal of self-healing really gutted this perk into irrelevance. -
Well, while release Drac had a lot of issues, he really can't compare.
@Abyast1 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4090562#Comment_4090562
You have. Ghoul, vecna on release and dracula on release are all comparible to this release.
The valid issues with jason are A) his haste last too long, B) his power is on a low cd and c) theres no real punishment for missing a shot, as scrap piles are many and all around. The other things complained about are usually a result of survivors not taking chase and refusing to take aggro (which you can choose who takes aggro due to his power, which is unique to him) which leads to standstills.
Ghouls issues were soo much more aggregious. Vecna's early mage hand cd and skulls cd were horrendously low and dracula had a low cd for switching between forms.
I also started in 2018. These are just the most recent examples. I remember back when nurse's attack didnt class as a special attack and worked with m1 perks for example. Or old slowdown freddy.
Jason is overtuned, but nowhere near as much as your comment seems to suggest
Ghoul is pretty much beating a dead horse at this point. We all know what their problem is.
And D&D Vecna was not as overtuned. He got a massive buff when they shortened the cooldown on Fly however.I do remember old Nurse and Forever Freddy, but Jason is in a league of his own. Sorry to all of you who like playing him, but the truth is that it is absolutely miserable to play against him, because of how much he has in his kit and his add-ons, for basically free.