twocansofbean

People like to complain that they don't face people at their rank. But generally you do. You just lost whatever match you had.

in regarding survivor skill level Comment by twocansofbean May 12, 2021

@Yords said:
It's hard to believe people who say that most games they were camped, tunneled, or slugged.

For new players 100% yes. Even as a new killer I camped and tunnel. Not slugged cause I didnt understand that concept

in Just brought three friends to the game, meaning, new players. This was their experience Comment by twocansofbean May 12, 2021

I like it give it a cool down timer. Maybe like once every 60 seconds

in Rechargeable tokens for Distortion Comment by twocansofbean May 12, 2021

Sorry my dude, but real solution is to do gens and rank up. When you reach rank 16. Everyone that camps magically disappears.

in Suggestion against camping Comment by twocansofbean May 12, 2021

@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2181287#Comment_2181287
I feel if thats your build the issue you have with wraith is probably really similar to me but im not sure
mys only issue is when you create a snowball deadzone, slug and keep suvs injured then pressure them to come to the deadzone as ruin is regressing the gen if they leave you just hit and run another area and rinse and repeat but the issue is not wraiths buffs in and of themselves its just that 4 meta perks allow him to slow the game to a halt and play an oppresive style, theres a very similar issue with some of legions old addons and some really niche perks that people overlook because the killer is weak but he can be one of the most oppresive killers in the game. i dont think the killers are so much broken as without the build they fine imo.

He's not broken, but you can't counter wraith at the same time.

And that's why I don't think he's in a healthy spot. There's no back and forth interaction between survivor and wraith.

But also I'm about to hit rank 1 for the first time so please don't change him.

in New wraith is fine and most the criticism is wrong or overblown Comment by twocansofbean May 12, 2021

@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2181265#Comment_2181265
Yea but you need to create a dead zone honestly if survivors are allowing you to create a dead zone around a gen and not playing economically with pallets its kinda comeing i only have 2 things i dislike about wraith but i think they are overblown
1-when a weaker survivor burns all the pallets others get punished
2-Sloppy, surge, ruin, BBQ sluggers thats the only time i dislike wraith a LOT
But the thing about 1 is it applies to bubba, Oni and well a lot of the killers its kinda like when a oni zooms back to where you are but with wraith you get more time to react to it so i dont think its that bad tbh

The thing about burning pallets. Is that you only need to burn about 6 of them which are the 1-2 closest pallets to each of the generators. If they don't burn the pallet they get hit. If they do burn the pallet. There won't be a close enough pallet next time.

I have no need to care about any extended chases.

Lol replace surge with nurses calling and you got my build.

Though I guess I can't say if one build is oppressive. Then that must mean wraith is fully oppressive.

But I still feel hit and run wraith, the only way to play wraith optimally, is a play style with zero counter play.

I remember the first time I faced hit and run wraith, I was thinking. Oh I can't do anything, I don't know when he'll will come and there are no pallets I can run to, to save me.

Also I learned how to actually play hit and run wraith that game xD.

in New wraith is fine and most the criticism is wrong or overblown Comment by twocansofbean May 12, 2021

@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2181059#Comment_2181059
His powers more than a free first hit it can do a lot more.
Also I understand the concept of a stealth killer and it just so happens one side has a 3rd person camera with a wide FOV meaning at most places that dont have high walls its likely you can easier see him coming + you have some indication of where that will be from perks or where other survivors have been hooked but thats not the point.
The counterplay to it is really just paying attention and inferring what is likely to happen and in your head planning your route the problem is and i dont mean this as a insult to survivors i play a lot of the role most players once there on a gen don't forward think we are all guilty of turning off and just hitting skill checks But stealth killers punish that and tbh i don't see the issue with that to be honest if someone takes a hit for not paying attention or being in a deadzone then thats fine.

I feel I've been on the band wagon and been a big proponent of this recent complaint about wraith. Though I mostly main him as a killer.

Cause once I create a dead zone generators I take the free hit and just leave. To different gen. After that when I come back to the orginal generator. I get another free hit and now you're down.

You didn't loop me, you didn't get actually use any of your chasing skills. You're down without really getting a chance to fight back.

I feel the games or only won and lost by my decisions alone. Nothing you do as a survivor matters. Granted I won't be saying the same thing if the perk sloppy and nurses weren't in the mix.

in New wraith is fine and most the criticism is wrong or overblown Comment by twocansofbean May 12, 2021

Just make it an add on and I'd be down

in New item - iridescent map Comment by twocansofbean May 11, 2021

@MeltingPenguins said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2180438#Comment_2180438
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2180526#Comment_2180526
then franklin's countdown ought to stop when there's camping.

At its core Franklin's isn't going to make or break a victory. And if a killer is camping an item he's obviously going to lose. If you're trying to get that one med kit just give it up. You're not gonna lose if you didn't grab your med kit.

in Rework franklins to only have keys (and maybe flashlights) vanish Comment by twocansofbean May 11, 2021

That is already happening if you play at the higher ranks. You can't even stay at hook or else you'll get gen rushed and lose.

I think you just play with bad killers. Just rank up by doing gens. And you wont face the campers soon.

Also you haven't considered what if there are teammates nearby the hook and the killer is chasing them. That means the killer is punished for having survivors hover the hook.

I believe they already tried to implement this in the base game. And what came out was toxic survivor play.

in Perk to counter face camping? Comment by twocansofbean May 11, 2021

@Power_Guy said:
You're fighting the Entity trying to devour you & getting weaker as you go; you're not supposed to have EZ skillchecks so you can see the Killer's actions while you take a vacation on the hook.

I mean you're fighting the opponent not the entity. Losing to a missed skill doesn't make any side feel like a victory is earned or lost.

in Hook Struggle Skill Checks... Comment by twocansofbean May 11, 2021

@Seraphor said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2180348#Comment_2180348
But you don't need to actually kick a gen, it's automatic.
Surge has saved me many times in the late game. Where I pressure a couple survivors off a gen that's nearly done, and managed to down one of them, setting that gen back 8%, and without surge would certainly have been completed. With that gen not completed, I can go back to it after downing/hooking that first survivor and pressure the other one off it.

I agree its has saved my ass a couple of times. But compared to pop the results feel lack luster.

Maybe if they added the cooldown refreshes on every hook. I wouldn't mind.

Oh yeah surge also automatically procs even if there isn't a near by generator...

in Surge Cooldown Comment by twocansofbean May 11, 2021

@TAG said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2174184#Comment_2174184
Can I suggest changing the ability with self-unhooks to something else and keeping the struggle phase ability as you have described it? Maybe a speed boost when you get off the hook or something?

I like the speed boost idea. Like everytime you hit a great skill check you get 1 second of speed boost. And maybe every good skill check a .25 of a second

in Slippery meat and the new hook struggle Comment by twocansofbean May 11, 2021

Imo surge is pretty useless mid to late game. It's only regresses a generator by 6.4 seconds. Which is about the same as kicking a generator and waiting 12 seconds.

Near end game I definitely feel as a killer I'm getting hooks and downs much more faster than the 40 cool down they give me with surge.

Like even if I get a slow down with surge I feel if I try to get a hook. I just turn around and that gen just got completed behind me.

in Surge Cooldown Comment by twocansofbean May 11, 2021

@miketheratguy said:
This is my honest, objective experience with The Wraith, so I hope to answer the question as best as I can:
I've been playing the game for only two months. In that first month I found the Wraith really solid. Fun to play as, as well as against. His powers were impressive, but there felt like enough balance to keep him in check. Yes, he's invisible and yes, he's super fast, but that bell - which I thought was a really cool bit of character flavor as well as an ingenious bit of balance - made it so that if you heard it, you still had a chance to get away.
I don't know what happened but I now despise the Wraith. I absolutely cannot stand him. He seems just plain ridiculously OP to me. There are two reasons for this: He seems to have lost the cooldown between when he hits his bell to uncloak and can begin moving again, OR the slowldown that he previously experienced when coming out of cloaking was greatly reduced. Additionally, I've played two matches against him where there was no bell. I thought that this was a glitch, but was told that no, he can now play in such a way that he can uncloak silently.
IF both of these things are true, then we had a killer who could be invisible and incredibly fast BUT had to dramatically slow down and loudly announce his presence when he was preparing to strike, to a killer who can be invisible and incredibly fast AND does not considerably slow down nor need to announce his presence when he uncloaks. In the past I felt that I had at least a fifty/fifty chance of getting away from him when I spotted his blur coming or heard his bell. Now, it has gotten to the point that even if I see his blur rushing in and take off out of the room before he's even begun uncloaking, I still get smacked almost immediately. Then there are the times when I didn't hear a bell and just didn't happen to be looking in his direction when he came flying toward me, so I went from moving around and / or trying to get something done to BOOM, now I'm being attacked out of nowhere. There's no counter to that. People say "oh, just make sure you're always against a wall or window. Well, I can't really make the game service me in that way.
Long story short, I thought that Wraith was solid middle to upper tier. Easy to use, but quite possible to still counter or evade. Now, in my experience, he cannot be properly countered or evaded. I hate him. People want to disconnect when they see The Spirit, I want to disconnect when I see the Wraith. I'd honestly rather face the Spirit to be honest. At least in her case there are various tells. I feel like I have a chance. In the Wraith's case it feels like a literal example of - and I have been avoiding this word as long as possible - legitimate imbalance. They tipped things just enough in his favor to make fighting him way too unpredictable, at best, or way too unfair, at worst.

This is my opinions also but as a wraith main. Like holy crap I feel survivors have zero counter play to me. Sure good survivors will gen rush me still, but that's not a counter.

Even if you escape to pallet. The first time. I just leave and come back and next time you won't have a pallet.

in Why are people saying Wraith is now top tier? Comment by twocansofbean May 11, 2021

It's not about his chase potential. It's the fact that I don't even need to learn how to loop as wraith. I just have to decloak and try to get a hit. And if they reached a pallet before I hit them.

Next time I come back to the generator. There won't be a near by pallet for them to throw down. So I get a free hit.

in Why are people saying Wraith is now top tier? Comment by twocansofbean May 11, 2021

@dtavares7 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2171947#Comment_2171947
You probably play against rank5+ survivors man, its just different at red ranks
Hiding behind walls does nothing because your sound gives away exactly where you are directionally

Nah I definitely faced alot of red ranks this week. I have to say whenever facing a full red rank team. The match felt fairly balanced, I left with no rank up or rank down.

It doesn't matter if they hear you the first time. Cause the second time you come around. The pallet they dropped last time is broken. so you get a free hit.

You say there's a window near by? Go to window side and decloak there.

in Wraith is still trash tier Comment by twocansofbean May 7, 2021

@dtavares7 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2171900#Comment_2171900
Once survivors know the killer is wraith they just look for his EXTREMELY obvious shimmer from 20 feet away and his stupid ass breathing
It's really not hard to tell he's coming to you 10 seconds before he is

Just hide behind the wall. And if you find a generator in progress with no survivor. That mean they have spine chill. So they already saw you walking to the gen 32 meters away. All you have to do is walk sideways and the not look at the gen when going towards it.

I literally made a post two days ago asking how do people counter wraith cause I felt there is zero counter play. You can't even loop wraith, he can just leave for another person every time you throw down a pallet. At the end of the mtach the entire map is filled with inescapable dead zones.

As wraith you control the entire pace of the match. They can't see you coming or hide in time. Every match is dependent on your decision making skills.

in Wraith is still trash tier Comment by twocansofbean May 7, 2021

Bte if you stand still as wraith you go completely invisible. Its a pretty cracked ability, I got so many free downs after camping basement

in Wraith is still trash tier Comment by twocansofbean May 7, 2021

Dude I was sitting at rank 14 with legion until I played wraith. Now just this week I went from 17 to 5 with no struggle. Pretty sure I can get rank 1 with how the matches are going.

You gotta hide behind a corner before you uncloak, hide at the pallet side so they can't run to the pallet when they hear you. You don't start making noise until 1.5 seconds into de cloaking. Then you have 1.5 seconds plus the speed boost to make your move. Either get a hit on the survivor or keep chasing them until they drop pallet, Break the pallet. Right after that you leave to find another generator, and repeat.

Make sure you have nurses calling and sloppy butcher. With sloppy butcher that 4 seconds of extra healing time is so important with nurses calling. The times I tried to go without sloppy, I always got to survivors just as they finished healing.

If the chase goes to 20 seconds leave. Eventually most of the survivors will be injured, and next time you see them you get an easy down.

in Wraith is still trash tier Comment by twocansofbean May 7, 2021

@Yords said:
Throwing pallets and staying near windows can cripple Wraith actually.

I mean personally I don't care cause the moment they throw down one pallet I break the pallet leave and come back later for round 2. And they can't use the window side if I come in from window side. I always make sure every chase I get atleast one hit or one pallet break. And by end game there are no more pallets for them to use. And then forget mind gaming jungle gyms, if you can't see my red stain for 6 seconds.

in Yo how do you counter hit and run Wraith? Other than gen rushing Comment by twocansofbean May 6, 2021

@Reinami said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/248007/yo-how-do-you-counter-hit-and-run-wraith-other-than-gen-rushing
Having good situational awareness. Wraith is loud as hell with his snarling noises. Always be near a window or pallet. If a gen is out in the open, make sure you have more than 1 survivor repairing it, but generally avoid those unless you know the wraith is somewhere else.

What distance can survivors hear it from?

in Yo how do you counter hit and run Wraith? Other than gen rushing Comment by twocansofbean May 6, 2021

@Drixpy_Jayyy said:
Having spine chill and not being outpositioned

But like even with spine chill. I just start walking side ways to the area. And forget out positioning. I get to pick the best position to come in from. Especially add-on with the zero terror radius + zero red stain for 6 seconds after I uncloak.

in Yo how do you counter hit and run Wraith? Other than gen rushing Comment by twocansofbean May 6, 2021

@SilentPill said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2166534#Comment_2166534
Well I’d probably just dump dragons grip for thanta then. Or honestly NOED since it’s stronger than either really, even if it’s cheap.
I personally can’t stand playing wraith without chase perks and it’s very hard to do an effective hit and run playstyle without any information perks.
My favorite hit and run perk is probably discordance since once it lights up you can instantly drop chase and find 2 other people immediately. Otherwise you run the chance not finding anyone fast enough for hit and run to really work, especially if medkits are involved. Doubly so if the users have healing builds to go with those medkits. In those situations you either down people or they heal up in 6-7 seconds and without chase perks getting them down could be extremely difficult.

Tbh dragon's grip really helps with snowballing. all I have to do is kick almost 75%+ gen or get a jump on a team of two. and I'm guaranteed a guy is going to come back to proc the dragon's grip. And I stand still so no one see my shimmer and I get a free down. It's very fun.

Plus I get intel when I leave so I know if the gen is getting worked on. Plus if no one procs the dragon's grip I get 15+ seconds of free regression.

######### Instead of sloppy butcher, I think I might try discordance then. I will say with will an arrogant guarantee. If you can chase off two people off gens with wraith, the full health guy will always come back.