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@KillermainBTWm8 said:
People say things they wouldn't otherwise during outrage. But they'll adapt
I agree:)
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They always do these things and it's soo sad:(
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@Souless said:
You realize all of u just getting constantly ignored ?
Yea I don't understand them at all I think there overreacting :( I for one like this change and I'm a killer main.
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@Peanits said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/968750#Comment_968750
There's also Pop Goes The Weasel, Thanataphobia, Dying Light, and others to help you out. The new Ruin also helps slow things down by regressing generators, although you'll need to put in some effort to keep them off the generators. Whenever you hook a survivor, people have to make the choice between leaving the generator and having it regress or committing to the generator and risk getting pushed off (BBQ, for example)/the hooked survivor losing a hook state. I'd strongly suggest giving it a try, it's actually very good.
I like the new ruin Peanits :D and I'm a killer main, I really don't understand some players that say you guys only cater to survivors it's really sad that they think this:(
But I think you did a great job with this keep up the great work:D can't wait to see what's in the future :)
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@Jacynt_293 said:
this ruin "nerf" makes it much better in my opinion
I agree:) and I'm a killer main:D
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@BloodMoneyMerc said:
They will definitely scare off a good number of killers playing the game currently, so they will either have to make changes to ease the stress of playing killer or eventually matchmaking is going to become too unbearable & everyone begins leaving.
We will see when that time comes:) I don't think they will leave they might say they are going to but it's simlier to what survivors said about ds balance landing.
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@Ryuhi said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/978608#Comment_978608
its literally unplayable without bloodhound. Even then, you can only really see the blood if theyre injured and guess off of that.
I agree:)
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He's fine great job devs:) he's not dead he lives.
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@AhoyWolf said:
Some people do, I think the new Ruin is just meh on it's own, but with Surveillance and Thrilling Tremors then we can say that the new Ruin is strong.
I agree.
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@Ryuhi said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/978569#Comment_978569
or if they're colorblind and get 2 claudettes and 2 jakes in dark green clothing on Yamaoka estate.
Yea they can tricky to see. Lol
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@Zombra808 said:
This may be lengthy, so if you don't want to read the whole thing, skip to the TLDR;. I do recommend you read the entire thing though to hear what I have to say.
I am a Survivor/Killer player, but I mostly play Survivor. I also pay the most attention to stats, rather than feeling/thoughts. Of course, everyone's opinions matter, and of course, the devs should listen to them, but considering the kill rates of all killers, I don't see how Killers are underpowered one bit. I understand that the newest available stats are a couple of months outdated now, but according to the stats, only one killer is below a 50% kill rate, being Nurse.
From my standpoint, I believe that the game should be balanced around the 50% kill rate, 2 kills, 2 escapes. I know others may think that a 75% kill rate, or 66% kill rate is more accurate, which I can see, but a 50/50 split sounds more accurate to balanced than 66/33 or 75/25. I do understand the struggles many Killer players face when going into a game, i.e., gen rush, SWF, or natural disadvantage, but not one killer besides Nurse gets below a 50% kill rate.
You also can't argue that any killers get worse the higher you go because each killer gets an increase to their kill rate, the higher you go within the ranks. Even the Killers that are deemed the worst by the community, ie. Legion, Pig, Leather Face get above a 65% kill rate in red ranks. In all ranks, they get above a 60% kill rate.
The worst Killers in the game according to stats across all ranks would be Nurse, Demogorgon, and Clown, Nurse being an exception because of her extremely high learning curve, although Nurse being underpowered is a topic for another post. Red ranks are the same, although Nurse surpasses both Demogorgon and Clown in kill rates.
To me, it seems like the game should be balanced around a 50% kill rate, giving about a 10% wiggle room for each end, meaning a 40%-60% kill rate being balanced. Although Killer players do voice their opinion of the game being Survivor sided, it seems from stats, that each killer is either overperforming or balanced from a 50% kill rate standard. Even if you look at it from a 66% kill rate, using the same 10% wiggle room, only one killer would be considered underpowered, being Nurse. The only killer at that point that would be regarded as overpowered would be Freddy.
Whether you believe that the game should be balanced around a 50% kill rate, 66% kill rate, or even a 75% kill rate, the stats don't lie. I do agree that we, the community, should address the issues each side face and the irritations we all face. We should make the game more fun for each role, but we must avoid being too biased to one side, and consider balance as well.
For example, gen speed. Some believe that gen speed is too fast, and it should be slowed, but that must also mean that if gen speed is nerfed, survivors would need another buff to compensate. We want to make sure that Killers get the chance to kill survivors, without making the survivor board to death by holding M1, for even longer.
Another example would be boring or annoying killers, i.e., Spirit, Freddy, Legion. We should make the killers less annoying to face to promote fun for survivors, without making the Killers useless and destroying the community that loves playing them.
TLDR; The stats show that no killer is considered underpowered, depending on what your view of balanced. Opinions matter, but isn't the whole answer. The community must work together to come up with alternatives to things each side find annoying, without making one side too powerful. This is only from my own perspective, and everyone has their own. Please tell me your thoughts on things that annoy you, and try to find out how to balance it, without taking a bias to one given side.
There not weak at all :) players that say otherwise don't want to accept it. Plan and simple.
They can be strong or weak it all depends on who is playing as that killer.
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Yes I like it:)
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i might do this too im going to stock up on moris too:D
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@ElementDoom said:
What does bringing a mori have to do with testing the new ruin? If anything it just skewed your perception of how an average game will play out which is even worse than just not trying it at all.
it was for to make sure it wont end quick since that was the worry:) now i know i dont need it:D it was just a green one not a red one theres a differents
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@ppo8820 said:
These vent posts are getting long and a bit pathetic. “ I’m uninstalling” , “ I’m going to Mori and noed all survivors”. Please tell me these are 12 year old raging at home and not actual adults.
Also, how many of you who complained have played the game on the ptb? I saw the map and it looks so good. Clearly the devs put some time and energy into this but as with every change, everyone complains.
So if you’ve played. What do you think? I don’t care what anyone else is ranting about. Thanks.
i played on the ptb and both the doctor and the new ruin is fine:) starting with doctor hes fun to play and hes not weak at all:)
now for the new ruin i would say its fine/ok But its not useless i was just against a swf team that were salty and they did not find ruin the whole time:D and i won
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@hinoutoumei said:
yes, I will be quitting this game as soon as REsistance comes out providing that is a decent alternative. My reasoning is I am so sick of behavior's policy on toxicity and trolling. I am tired of all these killer nerfs being made because survivor's whine and complain about killers constantly. Nothing is ever done to buff killers. Even the most simplest thing such as finally chaning how to get the merciless achievement is never done. Survivors literally can go afk a whole match by the exit gate and provided they get through the gate they will get some achievement. This game is doing nothing but catering to these people. This is not a smart way to operate your game. If all you do is cater to the survivor side you will lose killer players. And then what? if there's no killers how will the game operate. I am so sick of the trash talk, the trollish nonsense, the toxicity..coming mostly from survivors. que up as a lvl 1 doctor wiht 1 perk just trying to do your daily quest , and get yelled at, trashed, threatened..
like enough is enough. I don't wish to be yelled at constantly when I randomly receive a quest and decide to play that killer. The community in this game is garbage, and it seems anyone who tries to speak up against it just gets shut up and banned probably because it's coming from the survivor's side and they just happen to make up the majority of the game's population. Basically the last 3 sets of "reworks" have been specifically targetted at killers that survivor's find "unfun" to play against. You know what? It's unfun playing against these survivors yelling at you, threatening you, harassing you, trolling you every flippin match. Also, it's unfun to play against a killer who knows what they are doing to begin with. It doesn't matter what killer they are playing as..IT'S UNFUN TO LOSE. Even for the killer it's unfun playing as said killer until they get the hang of it.
now we got a bunch of changes that effect all killers. Hex ruin is ruined. It's trash, complete garbage. And why? because survivors can't perform a basic task? like for crying out loud, if your reflexes are that bad to hit a great skill check than that is not anyone's problem but your own. The skill checks need to be made harder not easier, to prevent gen rushing..but that would be a nerf in favor of the killer..which is unnaceptable!
like i'm just done. Your tomes are trash also. Took me over a month just to heal 2 surivvors with a perk and a medkit completely and the only reason i finished the challenge was because i lucked out playing against a legion killer who just stood there and let us get the challenge. but when I tried to speak up against it I got my post shut down because I kept telling peope I didn't want to hear their trollish nonsense and the moderator wrote me off as not wanting to hear anyone's opinion. what a joke. I actually specifically stated i was open to opinions, it was the toxic trolls posts that i was against. Very few people actually had any constructive advice on how to get this challenge done other than telling me to git gud and treating me like i was some idiot because the challenge was extremely easy, they were able to do it. It's easy. GOOD FOR YOU. There were some valid suggestions such as doing it with "SWF" , but outside that, all anyone did was troll my post and call me an idiot AND I GOT BANNED? WHY? FOR YELLING AT THEM? it's not an easy challenge ok. Good for you if you lucked out and didn't get a pathetic trash team who didn't die /dc instantly or run around the map bleeding everywhere refusing to be healed. Unfortunately, this was not my experience. I did not appreciate your pathetic trollish comments and attitude, nor being singled out and attacked by the moderator who just assumed I didn't want to hear anyone's opinion. No one was offering a valid opinion on how to get this challenge except for like 3 people. AND THOSE PEOPLE I DID LISTEN TO AND THANKED.
just ban my forum account purposefully. I'm not one who tolerates people's garbage and you can rest assured that basically everyone who trolls me with their toxic crap will get yelled at. SO just put me on perma chat ban and I'll only come here to read your garbage news about how the game is getting even more ruined than it was the last time you nerfed it.
You devs are just out of control.
ok bye!!!!
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@White_Owl said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/973834#Comment_973834
because of crybaby surv mains like you
Calling me "crybaby surv main" only because I disagree with you, without even knowing me, shows how immature and childish you are. If there's a crybaby, that's not me.
Good one lol:) and I'm a killer main.
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@anonymous31337 said:
Ruin nerf?
Doctor rework?
Lery's rework?
Could you specify what exactly do you mean?
I meant the nerf to ruin and doctor.
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@xEa said:
9 out of 10 people that voted "yes" will actually stay. Wanna bet?
yep
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@DarqPhoenix said:
I'm almost sure that 90% of the people saying they will quit (across all forums not just this post) are talking out of their a**es and will not stop playing the game regardless if this nerf is to their liking or not. and the ones who do will not be missed nor will it kill the game, I'm so sick of seeing the stupidity on these forums
i agree
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i want to know too
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@Hero_awesome said:
Yea I'm about to leave the game.
dont we all say that even though its a lie
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Awsome change I love it:D thx devs
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@Aura_babyy said:
Regressing generators sounds to me like surveillance is gonna see an increase in use :eyes:
Let's not forget we can,
Easily use Thrilling Tremors, to guarantee a regression rate equivalent of a RED RANKED survivor failing 2-3 skill checks if used effectively. (Can match with Iron Grasp).
Dying Light/ Nemesis is a thing. With Thanatophobia you have plenty of slow down as is.
Corrupt intervention has always been a decent enough alternative to Ruin anyway.
This kind of outrage doesn't surprise me. Yet it seems to have exceeded the outrage that came from the Balanced Landing, Decisive Strike, and Instantheal Medkit nerds.
Really peeps? Survivor Bias? What a long overdrawn misconception. Both sides get nerfed and buffed EQUALLY.
The Doc rework is amazing. I love it and I haven't even played it. The gatekeeper update is also MAJOR. A lot of killer mains determine success in a match if they pip. (Looking at you Tru3.)
Don't waste your time with these complainers they don't want to accept change they never did and they never will which is sad:( I for one am happy about this change gets the killers to give pressure :)
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@PBL187 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/975765#Comment_975765
Well thank you, I wish more would think like you
Ikr
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@JOBreazy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/975673#Comment_975673
The same goes for killers not getting good, depending on one perk is not skill and it shows with how many people complain rather than just get good.
so suvivors just need to get good and hit skillchecks, then maybe killers need to get good and not depend on a perk to carry them and actually apply pressure instead of having tunnel vision
Ikr
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@PBL187 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/975607#Comment_975607
Plot twist: This could actually have been posted by someone who plays as killer. I sincerely hope so, cos all you killers bitching about it need a bit of perspective. I mean, how boring a person u must be if u really want games to be that easy and go by in a flash with zero or minimal effort. Like Killers aren't already OP with all these mad perks like No ed and devour hope. All you killers moaning about a bit of nerfing to balance the game are obviously layabouts who have everything done for you and never had to work a day or even 30 mins in your entire life, so you expect the same in your games. #########, I'd want 4k when playing as killer, but no effort = no fun. Bore off you slack ass pussies
I play both roles:) but I'm more of a killer main:) I don't mind the changes.
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@Snapshot said:
The 3 second cooldown really makes the ability unfun to use.. and in the light that they reworked him so he is more fun to play as, they failed miserably, sadly :( I'm not having fun on PTB right now (played 4 games now)
Did you give your feed back?
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@underlord99 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/975738#Comment_975738
what did I say that was out of hand?
I didn't mean you I meant other players that go too far.
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@underlord99 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/975669#Comment_975669
the forums are are here for us to Express our opinions, if you dont like it dont visit it.
For one I don't hate the forums at all I just don't visit them often:) Also let me remind you survivors said similer things before. And yes you can express your opinions but when it' starts getting out of hand that is when to stop complaining about changes.
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@JOBreazy said:
Sick of seeing all the people crying over a crutch perk being nerfed and saying there quitting. Honestly if your going to quit a game bc they change a perk then maybe its good your leaving bc this game doesnt need such entitled players and before all you killer mains get your panties in a bunch you should know i play both sides equally, survivors didnt quit playing after balanced was nerfed or when self care was nerfed to the ground. Quit your crying and adapt
Ikr it's soo sad to see these threads everytime there's a change:( it's either the survivors mains or the killer mains in this case it's the killer mains wow:( they are really overreacting about this change:(
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@Lucama said:
Go into a game against a solid survivor team without ruin, let me know how fun it is to have the entire game be over in the time it takes for 4 chases.
Then bring a mori or slug them all. Also your can camp em too:)
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@underlord99 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/975651#Comment_975651
but we dont have to get used to it , we have a forum for a reason. and its horrible.
That's why I try to stay clear from the forums unless I have a question about something.
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@RIP_Legion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/975631#Comment_975631
That's great but maybe I don't want to, surge is trash at the moment, bbq isn't necessarily a slowdown perk, I already use pop, and Noed... well I kinda don't wanna use it because I don't like getting Noed'd myself, hence why I don't use mori's but that might change.
I agree:)
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Also did you test out the ptb
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@underlord99 said:
well you've outdone yourselves, I didnt think doctor could get any worse but somehow you figured out away.
Yes I know this is just the PTB but if we dont give feedback during it they will release these changes. The biggest problem I have with the doctor "rework" is the 3 second wait to hit someone after you shock them.
I dont understand why this was implemented , instead of making us switch stances you gave us a 3 second wait period after using out ability. This doesnt help the doctor in chase's at all.(what he was really hurting on)
Also the change to the iri addon was unnecessary, any survivor with half a brain will be able to hit a reverse skill check. it's an iridescent addon meaning its ultra rare so in theory it should be Powerful.
This is what happens when players overreact about sorten things,Sorry to say. Now we have to get used to this change. Deal with it. I'm sure it's not that bad.
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There's other things you can use in its place or with like noed,pop,surge,bbq and many other perks.
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@thefallenloser said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/972396#Comment_972396
No, because I played for this game it should be in a quality state, and I deserve to play it as such, no exceptions.
I don't understand what sane person would call childish and entitled to be pissed off that the devs of the game you payed for are ignoring the community and the major issues they are pointing out. Yikes.
Try out the ptb first you and other killers are acting like small kids,and it's really sad that you and the other killers are overreacting.:(
Also let me remind you killer mains survivors said simlier things before this change. And oh my now killers are saying the same thing, oh nooo what are we going to do I know let's complain and threaten to leave this game cause the devs cater to survivors and only want money rip dbd,
You are acting like small kids. just stop. And test out the ptb.
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@GGEZgetBHVRd said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/975562#Comment_975562
It is not dead, you get instant survivor matches and max 5 minutes to play a killer.
Yea I don't understand why he said that.
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@Acromio said:
Last year is surprisingly even more survivor-sided than DBD. No thanks.
Also, the game is dead. Nobody is interested in playing a dead game.
See no other game is like dbd unless you want to play on a mobile one I forgot it's name through.
Try the ptb first .
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@[Deleted User] said:
They put this on themselves, unfortunately.
I don't think they would even have half of the outrage that they have right now if the wording of that update note wasn't so insulting to the killer player base.
The way they worded it makes it very much seem that they don't care at all about killers, they only care about survivors, and that they will make terrible balancing decisions, just so survivors have fun because they refused to adapt to the perk and literally could not adapt to it, so it got nerfed. It's very hard to argue otherwise, based on the wording of that post.
Yes I do agree that they could have worded it better. I was going to complain about it too but I choose to read it first and it's not soo bad.
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@Shi said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/975355#Comment_975355
Yes.
Players who purchase "Monster Hunter World: Iceborne" by 16:59 January 9, 2020 (UTC) will receive a bonus "Yukumo" layered armor set!
Cool:D
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I'm going to test this out:)
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Lets hope the complaining players test this out before they overreact. Cause they are acting like small kids.
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@Shi said:
I will go Monster Hunter World.
Right now, When I play Survival, I will wait a match in lobby more than 10 min. (1st red rank)
It really waste my time.
Is this on pc too?
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Just give em time. Ptb is today I think.
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@RottingAlien said:
IMO, the fact that survivors can't fight back is what makes dbd undethronable (if that's even a word xD) every other asymmetric game that has come out has let survivors kill the killers and didn't thrive. The feeling of being powerless against the killer is what makes you fear it and its why dbd formula works so well.
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Also, dbd actually started with 10k+ players on release and has been increasing as you can see here https://steamcharts.com/app/381210
I agree:)
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@Widowmaker8197 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/973037#Comment_973037
Yeah. When a good killer perks gets nerfed, killers will freak out and threaten to leave.
When a good survivor perk gets nerfed, survivors will freak out and threaten to leave.
Pretty balanced if you ask me lol
Yep lol
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Nurse not dead just need to learn to play.
Spirit not dead I play as her alot she's not dead.
Legion with he's new power he's dead. But I don't use he's power so in my case he's not dead.
Now for ruin you say it's dead nope not dead at all. Get used to it.
And I'm a killer main at rank 9
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@[Deleted User] said:
+1 too many killers rely on ruin and the outrage today is the proof and just like how killers told survivors when they get nerfed...killers git gud
I'm sure they won't leave this game. Cause there's no other horror game out there besides last year. But yea sure some will leave. Survivors said these things before like when ds and balance lending got nerfed.