immortalls96
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Well done indeed
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I gotta say that would be kinda neat
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I'm in agreement with mister..borrowed time to stop tunneling is one thing..but that is easily abusable
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@Darkskies said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/687310#Comment_687310
Nurse is so hard on console truly I have respect for anyone trying to learn her props to the nurse mains on console I truly hope the add on changes won't kill you ps4 nurses ❤️
That's all I can ask for..I actually had some decent ideas for how to go about it
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I admit it is rather nice when I get complimented on a good nurse game or get thanked simply for not playing scummy by hard core tunneling or camping..it does shed some light that not everyone feels the same as some..louder individuals
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@Atrushan88 said:
@immortalls96 It won't get smoothed out against moris, unless they add actual voice chat to the game itself where everyone is literally SWF. People aren't gonna just NOT save someone. unless they're told not to.
You may be right..but then that's technically a misplay by a team mate..nothing to be done there
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@Atrushan88 said:
@Immortalls96 No it doesn't do anything, because someone is always going to go for the save, whether it's you, or someone else. The only way you could reliably do what you say is if you're in a SWF, or everyone is on the same page, which is rare.
Mayne so..but..in time..that'll very likely get smoothed out at least to a degree..great things are in store for survivors
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I like hitting red ranks for the challange..and plus..its no fun when you realize the players you faced were so noobie it feels like you didnt earn it..its a hollow feeling
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@Atrushan88 said:
@immortalls96 I always wait until the killer leaves. Problem is with moris, they're waiting for the unhook.
If that's the case then the best answer is to just force gens..your in no rish..them getting to struggle phase doesnt make any difference..so that's just more free gen time..and if they're pressuring the map..well then you still get to chase and have an opportunity to make it
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@Atrushan88 said:
@Immortalls96 In my experience all killers who bring an ebony only need to make a survivor lose ONE chase. The second one is free because they're there the moment they get unhooked. Whether the offering is MEANT to depip anyone or not, doesn't mean that it's not used that way consistently.
@Tzeentchling9 Survivors didn't always do 3 gens before one hook. They don't always now. I never said it was an answer either. I said it was possibly a reaction.
Not always free but I suppose that's all dependent of borrowed time..but that's why it's important especially since you get a warning the killer may have a mori..to save safely or just wait and crank out gens first
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@Atrushan88 said:
@Immortalls96 Bringing an offering that has one purpose which is to depip everyone in the match isn't bm? Also yeah, the game does let them do it that fast, but like you said on that other thread, there are people who bring everything they can to get the gens done and get the hell out. That's what I'm talking about.
@Kilmeran Yeah, but I'm talking about the toolbox+Prove Thyself+possibly BNP gen rushers.
The offering is not meant to depip anyone, in fact it doesnt garuntee even a kill..all it does is make it to where losing 2 chases is lethal instead of 3..that's not bm..that's just using the offering..and it's not bm for survivors to being the fast gen stuff..bm is an attitude..now balancing on the other hand is debatable but survivors will do the objective fast regardless of what you have or what you do..its just part of the rough edges of the game
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Holy geez....I watched that link..that..is definitely not ok lol
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@Atrushan88 said:
@LCGaster @Immortalls96 I dunno, the more I get camped, or see someone camping, the more I want to ruin their fun just as they ruin others'/my fun. The more I get a match where a guy brings an ebony, the more I want to stock up on brand new parts(despite never getting any on my survivors) and gen rush the hell out of them so they don't get even one hook.
Ok..but bringing a mori isnt bm..camping sucks I'll agree whole heartedly but survivors get the gens done because the game let's them do it that fast..perks like adrenaline also rob killers of pressure so that kinda makes it worse
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@Atrushan88 said:
Killers might have brought gen rush on themselves. Survivors probably got tired of being screwed by moris/campers who defended their "playstyle" as "having fun" and it being "just a game" so they decided to make those same people feel their own pain.
That..I doubt...sincerely
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I'm hoping it's something like my iridescent chains addon idea..
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@NMCKE said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/686690#Comment_686690
Can you give me feedback on this then, it's from this thread. :)
Sure, so hes very right in that regard..however..I say this..give her some extra tools from the blinks but for the blinks themselves..blink speed should be her blink modifier if that makes sense..helps her a little but doesnt make her oppressive as her base range is the same..I think it's the most brilliantly designed addon she has and should be embraced..beyond that they could give her decent addons just dont let them stack up to insanity..I dont think anyone who plays nurse would disagree with that
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@NMCKE said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/687051#Comment_687051
Well, I'm all for the add-on rework, but I think her base is fine to be honest.
If that defends you, well, cool. :D
I can agree, all I want if for her addons to not be meaningless..I believe we chat on this actually , I just find it refreshing to find someone whom can chat without being degrading
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@NMCKE said:
Nurse is fine, it's just the add-ons that take away her skill to be honest. :)
Through she is powerful when mastered, that should always be the case with any killer.
Appreciate someone sort of having my back..this..discussion got rather hostile quickly
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@Saitamfed said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/686974#Comment_686974
I play the game since "Curtain Call" was released and MoM is not unhealthy, it's just a 4 SWF tryhard team wich makes it unhealthy. Even when two or three solos had MoM was annoying but not broken or unhealthy. The same applies with Adrenaline, BT, DS, DH. The perks itself in an average survivor will slighty help. Even if you're a good survivor this doesn't grant that your tryhard combo works as a solo.
Well..solos and swf will soon not be very distinguishable
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@justarandy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/686818#Comment_686818
Teabagging is not toxic.
That depends on intention
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/686930#Comment_686930
All perks should be better on both sides. I am sick and tired of perks getting gutted and same stale meta on both sides. Overwhelming Presence is only good on Doc.
True but..mettle just isnt healthy for the meta rn..
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There you go..hope it was helpful
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/686923#Comment_686923
Yes, because we all know we need more useless trash tier perks.
While I get it may I point to many killer perks..? Mettle is still far better than monstrous shine or overwhelming presence for instance
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They tried that in a ptb...it was truley uncounterable at that point
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@GrootDude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/686788#Comment_686788
It has been proven that nurse can deal with these so this isn’t really a valid point.
If you say so
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While it is satisfying it's no excuse to be toxic especially if the killer didn't simply tunnel you to death which it sounds like he didnt
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@ArrowTheGreat11 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/685549#Comment_685549
Gens popping quickly are entirely a killer’s fault. It’s called pressure. If you can’t get people off a gen (Ruin, hooking a teammate) then it’s going to be a quick game. There’s also perks that prevent gen-rushing, so there’s no excuses unless you’re bad lol
Well then..it was entirely the survivors fault losing to nurse..you have many second chance and free chase extender perks,.plus you can juke and use the tools on the map to evade omega blinks , it proves once and for all only bad players die to nurse then..I appreciate you confirming this for me
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Yeah..all the lack of insight makes my head hurt..its certainly odd the things you read here
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/685900#Comment_685900
Oh sorry.
I forgot, you just don't want her add-ons nerfed because it will put all of your "practice into her to waste".
...when they arnt about to make all my effort and practice worth nothingSo, basically for an even more selfish reason. Am I reading you correctly?
Indeed..you spew falsehoods like cobra venom..
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@Seanzu said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/685952#Comment_685952
What are you even talking about now? You're so tilted over survivors it's embarrassing.
At the start of a game, start a chase and come back to tell me about all the "free chase extenders" they used.
Addtionally, if you want to label windows and pallets as "free chase extenders" just try and imagine the game without those and tell me if you think it would be more enjoyable for survivors to run in straight lines.
Every "chase extender" has been nerfed.
DS
Pallet Vaccum
Pallet Quantity
New Maps Have More Unsafe Pallets
Exhaustion
Vault Speed
Mhm..wasnt talking about pallets ..geez you are an odd one..talking to you isnt getting anywhere
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@Seanzu said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/685921#Comment_685921
Except you don't need to be a good nurse if you're using addons they negate all mistakes by allowing you to cover ground in a matter of seconds.
Dont need to be a good survivor if you rely on free chase extenders that also cover your mistakes ..but that's different right?..
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@Seanzu said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/685846#Comment_685846
4 man teams are 5% of the player base but of course we should balance around those.
Good nurses are about the same but here we are..and also 4 mans and randoms will have very little difference between them before long so yes we should
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/685860#Comment_685860
I do.
I usually get 2 or 3 kills, without using anything ridiculous.
When I play Omega Blink Nurse, it's usually a 3k or a 4k, almost every single time. And I'm not a good Nurse (decent, at best). Hell, even without Omega Blink, it's a 3k usually.
This backwards logic of "All the other killers are bad, therefore Nurse and her add-ons are okay" is not going to convince anyone of anything. It's a crappy justification to keep her broken and everyone here can smell it.
Your putting words In my mouth and intentionally false ones too
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@Awakey said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/685858#Comment_685858
I stated that I think Nurse basekit is fine, I'm just showing why her add-ons aren't.
True but now you've got people saying " well that's not good enough she needs a full rework " give these people an inch and they take a mile
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/685834#Comment_685834
This is an online game. Things change in it.
If you don't like that, then you probably shouldn't be playing an online game.
I've practiced with Nurse a lot too. But I'm not going to arrogantly ignore and argue with cognitive dissonance that her add-ons are fine the way they are. They're not, because as much as I've played as Nurse, I've played against her as well to know for a fact that they are not fine.
When the only counterplay to a killer and their add-ons is "Gee, I hope they suck", then that's a bit of a problem.
Funny because then you should know that is what its like playing half the killers in this game
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@Awakey said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/685846#Comment_685846
I do want to point out that all Survivors involved in that match were mostly red ranks, running mostly optimal perks. Idk about SWF however.
Mhm..as I thought...I'm not denying it's too strong but I'm tired of this new crusade to ruin the nurse by showing four mediocre players get slapped due to bad luck
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@Seanzu said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/685834#Comment_685834
Because you can literally go and watch tru3s 100s of other videos and watch him decimate.
Zubat put 0 effort into winning that match.
Great..were they top of the heap 4 man survivors using powerful items and perks..? Because i sincerely doubt it
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@Seanzu said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/685746#Comment_685746
How dare i what? I've seen two of your comments in seperate threads where you talk about all this time you've spent practising with her and it's going to be ruined.
It's clear you're biased. Don't go around calling other people biased when the only reason you don't want nurse changed is because YOU have spent time practising with her.
Avoiding yet again, such an expert at this game but deflect the question because "the Devs dont even know". They don't need to go around rating their own killers, lol.
Yes I do hate feeling that all the practicing I've done may be diminished and it sucks..your the one praising video evidence of one thing and denying it in another..so you can just leave me be or I'll simply ignore you because never once has anything intelligent come from you
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Hmm...interesting
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@BBQnDemogorgon said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/685758#Comment_685758
Yes? You move 4.6 ms so it'd be a 7 second moonwalk.
Hh..nvm...
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@Peanits said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/684890#Comment_684890
Chances are we'll show off the changes once they're a little closer. They will be on the PTB first, yes.
Pray it's nothing gutting...especially when killer games are soon to get even harder once the survivor changes hit
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@BBQnDemogorgon said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/685403#Comment_685403
If you expect it for some reason you can technically moonwalk to avoid spine chill
Moonwalk 35 meters..?
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@Seanzu said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/685734#Comment_685734
Still avoiding the fact that you said you can't tell me where she stands, why is that?
You always go on about "My effort" "My practice" because you're biased on this change, it's quite obvious you only care about yourself and not the game as a whole.
How dare you....you dont know me so dont pretend to..I cant tell you because even the infinite wisdom devs dont even know..be cause sometimes she cant perform..other times she destroys..now I used to believe her low but now I'm uncertain as I dont play her solely..
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@Seanzu said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/685724#Comment_685724
Soooo, you're saying every killer is weak but you can't tell me that plague is weak or not?
Seems like you mostly have uninformed opinions of killers based on listening to videos on youtube rather than actually playing them yourself.
Considering every killer but clown and leather I play regularly I'm more than able to voice my own opinion..and I said most..not all..you know that
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@Aven_Fallen said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/685703#Comment_685703
Nope, people FIND other issues. Like, complain about Self Care? Healing got nerfed. Complain about MoM? Got nerfed. Now its Genspeed, which was not really a topic a few weeks ago.
Really? Look up videos from over a year ago...
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@GrootDude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/685703#Comment_685703
It seems like you’re actually the biased one here, playing killer ain’t as bad as people say. (I usually make red ranks on both sides btw)
Yes I'm sure ,
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@Seanzu said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/685701#Comment_685701
Yea, it couldn't possibly be that you're just bad with them?
Do you think Plague is weak?
From what others tell me I doubt it, I dont know where she lays because I cannot tell whom is just bad or if her kit is sufficient
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@GrootDude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/685640#Comment_685640
If they’re so biased then gen speed wouldn’t never been increased from 60 to 80 seconds, we’d never have crow bombs, Spirit never would’ve been buffed, pallet vacuum would still be a thing, double pallets would be extremely common, grim pantry would never have been shrunk, MoM would’ve never been nerfed, Freddy would’ve never been reworked, egc wouldn’t be a thing, we’d still have tons of infinites, we’d still have old DS, bnp would’ve never been nerfed, exhaustion perks would be cooldown instead of exhaustion, healing would’ve never been nerfed and flashlights never would’ve been nerfed.
Biased my chainsawing athlete face...
Hah..and for every one of those something new took its place...and yet another issue lays behind it..then they turn around and go the other direction
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@Seanzu said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/685644#Comment_685644
Maybe take a break from the game then? I've never seen you say anything positive you literally just talk down the devs and pretend they've never nerfed survivors and haven't been buffing killers for the past year.
And yet most killers are still weak..I will say something positive when they arnt about to make all my effort and practice worth nothing
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@Mc_Harty said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/685636#Comment_685636
Right because it's impossible for one killer to be stronger on one platform compared to the other. /s
Your right..its just a difference in skill requirement