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@ThiccBudhha said:
I guess it depends on your definition of active. But yeah, as far as I know, the game is growing. Jason is arguably the biggest horror icon. So, it wouldn't surprise me to have a lot of returning and new players inflate the playerbase if and when he comes.
I know.DBD is gonna be even more big than it already is when Jason arrives.And thats not a matter of ''if'' but ''when''.
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@Snowbawlzzz said:
The game has sold 20-something million copies, so that's probably already happened
No im talking active players.The sales are throughtout the years i think.
For example 1 million players are playing the game right now.
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@SpaghettiYOLO said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2434114#Comment_2434114
I'd argue that Fortnite does all these huge events that include licenses to keep people interested in the game.
I mean true but battle royale is a more popular genre.These 2 games dont compare is popularity.Even without the licenses Fortnite would still be the more popular one.
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@FrenziedRoach said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2434114#Comment_2434114
I laugh at this because there is a significant portion of the playerbase that likes the DBD original killers better than the licensed ones.
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I also like OG killers much more than licensed but there are still a lot of people who want them to do licensed chapters.
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@DwarvenTavern said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2436340#Comment_2436340
What? Yes, I am also talking about players who didn't know about dbd and a chapter sparked interest and they joined, right?
You asked for a peak, right? Which usually means how many players were brought in into the game, yes?
Or now are you asking how many players are sticking around now?
Ugh we couldnt hit 60k players with All Kill on release lol.
They made this chapter for the Kpop stans as if they were gonna stay with the game.What were they thinking?
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@DwarvenTavern said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2435681#Comment_2435681
As I said. On the FORUMS it sucked, but outside it was decent. Game Journalist kept going on and on about this "K-Pop" killer, yeah in the forums it's pretty bland as all hell, but to K-Pop fans (which is HUGE) it went to try and reach for their attention.
By the way, Netflix opted to not do this because they're making their own game, three of the licenses including Michael support dbd and enjoy it's concept.
The other licenses is still making some revenue off the chapter even when it's not in use
No i dont think you understand.
Im talking player numbers not outside.
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@DwarvenTavern said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2434177#Comment_2434177
All Kill.
It was a flop in the dbd forums standards, but in dbd advertisements it was nuts.
All Kill didnt hit a peak tho.nowhere close to a peak.
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@onemind said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2434114#Comment_2434114
But it dosent just some advertisement
Whens the last time you've seen advertisement for dbd when nemmisis came out.
Have you seen any official advertisement before?
Those advertisements boost up DBDs numbers a lot.When did an OG chapter hit a peak?
Lets not lie here now....
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@TacitusKilgore said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2434114#Comment_2434114
We have at least 500k+ players (at least thats what their marketing says....) DBD is also a pretty big game. Fortnite absolutely will be seeing the back end of netflixes hand, smite too.
On an AD they said they have 36 million players.They meant to say 36 million accounts who have bought the game but this is still considered a lie about their player count because they dont have millions of players.
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2434114#Comment_2434114
Well, i personally would still play this game for it's original characters. I started playing having not watched or played any of it's licensed content.
Yes but lets be honest here.Most people come into the game for licensed chapters.This is what keeps DBD alive for the most part.
I agree DBD OG chapters are superior.
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@MonsterInMyMind said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2434114#Comment_2434114
Doesn't matter we live in a world where Money is the most important option surely They're after Fortnites pockets next let's be real.
Well ST skins in Fortnite have not appeared in the item shop since 2019 i think.
As i said Fortnite is a much much much bigger game than dbd.
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@MonsterInMyMind said:
Exactly people are trying to panic off a company who's done this to similar games if i was Fortnite I'd be shaking they're likely next.
Fortnite is much bigger game then DBD.
DBD needs licenses to survive.
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@GenJockeyNance said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2431271#Comment_2431271
And it was milked because of its popularity and success. The games may not be your suit as I pointed out to someone else but it is for others and that's the point.
Every game that has a fanbse that is half kids is gonna get popular no matter what.Look at fortnite or COD.
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@Mr_Madness said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2431271#Comment_2431271
Meanwhile never bought any games and just read about the lore lol
They were milked to the bone.And Scott's kiddies praised him like he was the Holy Grail of the gaming industry when his games were pretty irrelevant and were mostly known for having the worst community full with furry kids and other weirdos.Also those fanatic theorys from that guy Mattpat or whatever his name was.This guy was basically writing the story and Scott just went with it.
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@GenJockeyNance said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2431046#Comment_2431046
Neither is Stranger Things? It's modern and popular. I'd hardly call the show horror but it still got into dbd anyway. Same with L4d. That game is practically dead, and it isn't in the horror hall of fame either. I can say Fnaf hasn't won any awards but it has been in the world record for the largest number of sequels released in a year. Not to mention the merchandise they sell, the franchise is incredibly successful. Just because it isn't your taste, doesn't mean it wouldn't fit into dbd or shouldn't come in at some point, that just isn't fair if other people got the characters they wanted and telling a majority or in your phrasing, a small minority who want it to sit out in a corner while others have the fun.
Fnaf was milked to death back in 2015.This is nothing to be proud of considering the games are pretty ######### tbh.
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Ban the word "FNAF" at this point.
I dont want to see this ######### here ever again.
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@ciara1999 said:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/YFO58YJUOGBG/screenshot-20210813-134648.png
I can get other content creators for you. But over 10k votes for springtrap is not a few loud Voices
This guys fanbase is 90% fnaf fans no wonder lol
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@BabuDweet said:
if trickster can be put into this game then fnaf is perfectly capable of doing so, you're calling people toxic yet look at how toxic you're coming across to fans of fnaf.
Kinda hypocritical if you ask me.
Just incase you think it, I am not a fan of fnaf. I just don't care if it's added lol I think it has potential to be cool.
I dont care for FNAF.Its a bad game imo with childish looking characters that got popular only because of lets play youtubers and has one of the most vile and rabid communities out there.If it gets added good riddance.I will leave DBD.I dont want to play a game that has springtrap or any other fnaf character in it.I dont want to deal with little kids that will send death threats almost every match.They will ruin DBD.I will find a new multiplayer game.
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@ciara1999 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2425218#Comment_2425218
Honestly lol please read what you've posted.
What?
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@ShinobuSK said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2425208#Comment_2425208
First of all you wont leave even if its FNAF and secondly, Im not mad I am being entertained by tantrums like yours over nothing
Yes i will.I am burned out.And Back 4 blood looks amazing.When FNAF gets added it will be a monstrosity and i will NOT be there to witness it.
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@ciara1999 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2425205#Comment_2425205
Because you're stereo typing all people who want fnaf, while calling them toxic.
Uh, because most of them are?Not all of them but most.
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@ShinobuSK said:
At this point I want Fnaf just so people like you would have meltdown over it.
Either way I couldnt care less which killer we get
I wont have a meltdown.I will simply leave.Sorry i made you mad for some reason.
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@ciara1999 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/272669/fnaf-fans-are-so-delusional
I'm a fnaf fan. I believe it's hellraiser now, but I can see why fnaf fans are still holding onto hope
People like you are so stuck up and rude.
Making posts insulting people "delusional"
Yet you call everyone else toxic.
You know what a normal person does? They ignore it or just simply disagree, they don't make posts insulting the other side.
And why are you here to tell me im stuck up?Just pointing out the very alarming behaviour of the fnaf fans.I dont want it in DBD.
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@Zokenay said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2425137#Comment_2425137
Sure... a game about a psychopath that murders children and is possessing a animatronic that has his corpse inside it, truly a game for little kids...
People claiming FNAF is a little kids game are more delusional.
Its marketed towards kids.
There are literal official DRAWING books for kids.I dont care if its canon to the stoy what kind of adult will buy that for himself and not for their kid?The games are PG13 and DBD is has M rating.
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@Gylfie said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2425126#Comment_2425126
How is this thread not toxic?
And how is my thread in any way toxic?
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@IlliterateGenocide said:
I don't know why people like you get mad at people for beain passionate
This is not being passionate.They say everything that is not that robotic rabbit is lame.
This is toxic.
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Just add more on the spaghetti code to make it work lol
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@NomiNomad said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2407742#Comment_2407742
And people will always say it. It happens with any remotely popular online multiplayer games, countless claims of "Oh, the game is dying!"
Most of the time, it is untrue.
Its so funny.As if these people dont know how to access steam charts.
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Depends.
When i wanna sweat.I will sweat.
When i wanna play for fun.I play for fun.
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@NomiNomad said:
Dying? Not at all. People can say this all they want-- As long as this game is the only successful one in the genre, it won't be dying anytime soon.
As for missing old DbD. Eh? I miss some aspects, like the old maps, but I also like a lot of the new things they've added as well. I don't think every new thing they add is terrible.
Poeple have been saying that the game is dying since 2016....
lol
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This and any other multi game has to keep changing and moving forward in order to survive.
I also get nostalgic from time to time thinking of old DBD but then i quickly come back to reality.
So to all of the people that say they want the old DBD back you want the game to not prosper for your own sake?You dont want DBD to be bigger and better?I get that nostalgia is a very warm feeling but it is a blinding one.Like come on now.
BHVR has to make their bread.
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@P3ToxicLaurie said:
While a fair and sorta valid argument, it's not that true.
Games like hsh and last year were all missing one thing; An iconic recognizable main character. This is why F13 the game was able to compete with it. It has a massive fan base of all ages. Granted, DBD didn't have the roster it has now, but F13 blew up in popularity in weeks, and kept going until the lawsuit, slowly losing players over time. With good game design, good fun gameplay, and of course, an iconic main character you can play as will definitely give dead by daylight a run for its money. For example- The new Evil Dead game coming out. It will probably be some very nice competition for dbd, and Ash is already in the game. So, that doesn't exactly rule out other characters who are in dead by daylight from getting their own games like Michael or even Freddy. I hear gun media is developing a new asymmetrical horror game which is probably going to be a Michael Myers game. And the Evil Dead game, is going to be amazing from everything we've seen so far. The gameplay looks amazing, graphics are awesome, amazing recognizable iconic characters. You can literally play as deadites. I don't like hearing people say the argument "dbd has a monopoly" which is true, for games that dont have an iconic main character. They really don't have a chance. But just because dead by daylight has the hall of fame of horror characters, doesn't mean its completely impossible for it to have some intense competition. Now, if they have no licensed characters. Yea, its probably not gonna stand a chance. But I see evil dead putting up a great fight. So make sure you pick up your copy when it comes out, as dead by daylight is in need of some competition badly. I didn't make this post to promote other games, I did it to make the devs open up their eyes and put some effort into the game (which is great, but has tons of flaws, dont get me wrong). This hold they have on the genre isn't going to last forever. So its better they start improving the stuff that isn't healthy for the game before people start finding other stuff to play, like the highly anticipated evil dead game, the gun media game (coming out in a couple years), home sweet home or just stop playing asymmetrical horror games at all. Dbd devs had said themselves that they only work when they want to. Which is fine, up to a degree. But when you're making cashgrabs and breaking the game with every update, something needs to be done before people say screw it and leave or look for another game to play.
Anyways dbd devs I love you, your game, and the whole team behind it. But there is some blaring issues you guys need to fix. I like to think you guys are trying your best, but sometimes people dont make sounds on the floor after like 2 years, nurses blink bug has been in the game since 2018, people can abuse their bad ping to get horrendous hits, you guys botched Claire's face, made everyone pay 400 extra cells for Jills default hair (please just add some dirt or blood to it), broke the servers once again, constant lag spikes, tutorial resets all cosmetics, the map was broken on release, killer adepts are still way too hard to get, sbmm isnt good, tons of bugs. I can go on and on. And you guys only change stuff youre called out on. Otherwise, its swept under the rug. Im not trying to just bash on the game, the reason I made this post is because I care about the game so much and want to see it thrive and be a well designed game at the same time. Like cmon guys! You got 140k viewers on twitch yesterday! Don't introduce all of those people into a bug filled game.
With one license (no matter how big it is) they arent gonna do anything imo.It will be closed in a box and it will get boring very fast.
A game needs to have multiple iconic licenses and continue to add more just like DBD.And that sort of game already exist.
DBD is the perfect formula for a "horror kingdom hearts" if you ask me.
This is why i dont think that new Ash game is gonna do anything.And this is why i dont think DBD will ever have an intense competition.
DBD already took the spot of "THE game of the asymmetrical genre".
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@NoelleMina said:
City Map. 😌
PLEASE WE NEED A CITY MAP WE WERE ROBBED ALL KILL WAS PERFECT CHAPTER FOR A CITY MAP.
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@QwQw said:
I don't care if we already got an RE chapter, I still want Jack Baker, Ethan Winters, and Karl Heisenberg. Hopefully we'll see them as legendary skins one day.
I dont think that is gonna happen.
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@Jago said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2383814#Comment_2383814
It seems like you know things better than me. What's the point to bring arguments if it's a lost cause.
Plus you double that with "Bs theories", judging what I said, based on my very own experience ? Sorry but why would I be motivated to talk with you lol.
This is what you say when you have nothing good to say.
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Do you have a better counterargument besides the "Aigt m8"?
Or are you just throwing BS theories with no facts and evidence to back you up.
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@Jago said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2382482#Comment_2382482
I've worked on one of those projects I'm talking about. It's not conspiracy lol, just dropping facts. I dont say thats the main reason why there s no competition; I just say that it happened some competition has been straight up erased by bhvr. Even on some game you've never heard of.
Killed in the foetus stage.
Because those games were not that good to begin with and they always stayed in DBD's shadow.
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@Jago said:
Plus Bhvr are very aware of their "competition". They have Dmca'd a looooot of projects. They protecting their bread.
People come up with anything.....Even if it makes no sense.Like is this the new conspiracy?
BHVR hired a witch to put a spell on their game 5 years ago to succed in this genre and a spell to kill any other game that tries to take their place.
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@Seiko300 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2371687#Comment_2371687
First off- looping isn't being phased out, it's the main gameplay loop for survivors and killers, it's the entire reason why maps are designed the way they are, and in short DbD just wouldn't be the same game without this core central facet of gameplay. If you're referring to BHVR constantly releasing new killers with strong chase powers but little map control or other utility, then I would say even that is experiencing some pushback- it's not particularly new information to say that people don't enjoy going against chase killers because of how oppressive they are in 1 v 1s and how they kind of disregard the skill of their opponents entirely when it comes to looping or map knowledge because their power allows them to circumvent loops partly if not entirely.
Such that content creators are releasing videos like OhTofu's "Are New Killer Designs Destroying the Fun of DbD?
https://youtu.be/2WXNVJ6EXT0?t=130
So it's not like the community is embracing this new trend either.
Secondly, you kind of ignored two things that I said so they still stand: I used arguably the two most iconic horror characters (Myers and Jason) in my example to then say that if I showed them to people that don't watch horror, they wouldn't know who they were. Unlike characters like say- The Avengers, people who don't watch or don't even like comicbook movies probably know who Iron Man, Thor, Captain America are (Captain America specifically is apparently super popular abroad which is somewhat surprising). I would argue that this is nowhere near the same for horror characters- again because they target a much smaller audience (typically teens / young[er] adults) who enjoy the "thrill" that the horror medium provides. To my previous example again, Action and Comedy and other genres in general are simply much more emotionally accessible genres than Horror is.
So if the most iconic characters (Michael Myers and Jason Voorhees) aren't even all that iconic- what does that mean for all the other characters that are being mentioned on this thread? For Pennywise, Chucky, Candyman?
Secondly Part Two, I literally told you that 7/8 killers mentioned on the list I provided ARE slasher characters to one extent or another because they all share the same identifying trait all slasher villains have in common- a slashing instrument. And y'know what, I'll take this a step further and say that The Thing does have their own slashing instrument because it frequently transforms its body to have all manner of sharp teeth and claws which it uses to kill victims in the film, like the scene where The Thing literally snaps off Dr. Copper's hands and then proceeds to bite into Windows' head in the next scene. So 8/8 of the listed killers are slasher killers.
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/OD87ZAW9KEQ2/screen-shot-2021-05-16-at-7-31-18-pm.png
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/QIOPW80PZ2ZO/screen-shot-2021-05-16-at-7-31-42-pm.png
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/Z571A9A7BCSY/screen-shot-2021-07-20-at-11-02-29-am.png
So I don't understand what you gain out of the insistence that "DbD is only for Slasher Villains!" when everybody we're talking about here are classic characters of the slasher heyday in the 70's 80's and 90's. Y'know what isn't a slasher character? Springtrap. Slenderman. Yet these are requested every day by a minor but very vocal part of the playerbase, and I have no doubt that at some point in the future we likely will see these characters come into the game to appease that part of the community whether you agree with those additions or not. (Again, I'm not making it a secret that I prefer the slasher villains of the decades over those two, but it is what it is).
You know who also isn't a slasher killer? NEMESIS. Who is actually in the game. Or Mr. X for that matter, who were the top two picks for Resident Evil killers to make it in Dead By Daylight, neither of them use slashing instruments opting to overpower their victims with the sheer brute force of their fists. So unless you're trying to tell me that Nemesis inadvertently cuts his victims to death with his fingernails when he punches them- this kinda sinks your entire theory about Dead By Daylight being only for Slasher villains doesn't it? Clearly the devs have some other ideas about what their game is meant to be.
I personally admire the slasher genre, I'm very much fascinated by it. And I love that Dead By Daylight's origins and for most all of its history for five full years centered around slasher figures. But I can also accept, and even appreciate when the game and its developers decide to depart from their humble beginnings and pay homage to a few other figures of horror like Nemesis and beyond.
Though I am saying, I would very much love if characters like Pinhead, Candyman, Pennywise, Chucky, The Thing, and of course definitely The Xenomorph, The Predator, and Jason Voorhees would find their home in DBD, since it's been a long time since one of their kind has joined the game. The difference is I don't want to be controlling and voice an opinion that would stranglehold the games growth, hindering it, and prevent it from being likable and accessible to other audiences. I'm not saying flat out "no" to other licenses, I'm saying "later".
DBD was originally a slasher sim.Well after Myers and the others came along but still.
Also lets not forget that all of this doesnt matter because the more content they add the worse the code will get which will make the game unfixable.
DBD is a bomb with a countdown at this point.
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@Rogue11 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2367386#Comment_2367386
If Capcom cared about DBD Claire being accurate she wouldn't have been released...
Oh, but they cared if people mixed their characters so a fun glitch had to be removed because of them?
Yes they do care.
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There was a twitter post saying that the devs are aware that we are unhappy with Claires face.
But they said its going to be a lot of back and forth with Capcom to get her fixed but it will happen eventually.
There is also a twitter account dedicated to fixing Claires face as well.
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@ShinobuSK said:
"Huge playerbase" ? Come on :D
But I agree 2 game modes would be great, even if it was ranked and casual. With ranked being much harder to climb than it is now of course, and rank reward cosmetics to motivate players
compared to the other game that were in this genre.
Yes.The playerbase is huge lol.
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@Squirrel_Thicc said:
Because balance is non existent in this game.
I disagree with you.
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You think those are bots?
No.
They are Behaviours playtesters who were drugged, kidnapped and locked up in Behaviour's HQ secret underground tunnels.
They reason they play like normal survivors but sometimes act unnatural is due to the lack of food, water and sunlight.Their brains have started to decay but dont worry soon they will be replaced by other people.
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@Zeus said:
I prefer flashbangs for normal use. Much more consistent, unexpected and can get blinds mid chase.
As for saves, definitely flashlight. You need to be really really close to the killer to get flashbang saves and the killer can always look up if it's a bit too late.
you can get saves if the killer is facing a wall.....
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@gendoss said:
Who prefers flashbangs....?
me tbh.More fun than flashlights.But that is maybe because its a new perk.
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Id rather them hire him for a chapter.He arranges the feel and theme of the chapter.
But a Puppet combo chapter is probably not gonna happen.
Power drill massacre still scares the ######### out of me to this day.
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Since Nea retired i see Claire took her place as the Entity herself.
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@MedicSpirit7 said:
There’s no more cybil or Quentin. Goblin by daylight is just a memory now :(
Claire still looks like she does crack behind Badham trash cans.
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@OopsAllHexes said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2341632#Comment_2341632
I was honestly thinking they could create a second team to handle the code rework. Which they NEED to do if they're serious on supporting this game for years to come. Their track record has been terrible so far.
They have to.Its their most popular game and the only one they will be known of.Like they dont have any good games besides dbd.
And dbd is not even good.
They need to hire a new team as you said to re-do the code of the game.