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How did spirit did not have any counterplay you needed to mind game the player or just hold w its was really simple if the random survivor could stop dcing against her and try to play the majority of the player could beat her
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@gatsby said:
It probably has something to do with Survivors being a uniform group and Killers all being unique.
Nerf one Killer perk/mechanic and it will have disproportionate impacts on the roster. Buff one Killer perk/mechanics and it will also have disproportionate impacts on the roster.
In this patch, for example, if you’re a Ghost Face or Trapper main its a buff. But if you’re a Slinger or Spirit main its a nerf. Some Killers thrive while other suffer. Every patch forever.
If you play ghostface with no addon its a buff with addon its a nerf
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@bm33 said:
I'm not changing my build but I'll be cleansing any dull/hex totems I see like I always do. I'm not changing my play style because someone might be running a boon totem, increased healing speed in a corner isn't going to help me if I'm instadowned by NOED.
Exept if every totem is a boon you cant get hit by noed so cleanse 1 and get 4 insta heal around the map
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@Bran said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2526259#Comment_2526259
we assume it'll be in an aoe since it was noted they'll be a "small safe haven". this would indicate them having a limited range.
Its just the choice of word they choose for their new interaction. I think people read too much in it dont forget the wording sometime is awful. Its a wait and see and we will have more info on them in a couple hours
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@TruffleTurtle said:
I for one am very happy with the changes. He was very annoying to verse since you were always in a lose-lose situation. And I'm confident he will still be a decent killer even with the nerfs, just will be more fair to verse
Why should a killer play deathslinger over huntress right now they have absolutly no reason to play him
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@Sonzaishinai said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2526259#Comment_2526259
If it's the same time as cleansing which more and more seems to be tje case that hex was gone anyway.
And sorry but having to spend 14 seconds to reanable your perks that the killer can snuff out in an instant doesn't sound so scary to me.
The more i hear about it the more i think boon totems will be trap perks like self care.
I just can see a teammate lighting boon totems that get snuffed out instantly constantly and completly stop working on gens
Killer dont have time to look for totem the audio cue will probably be the same as a hex totem so its short range
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Boon totem can overwrhite a hex totem. By default normally totem related perk are strong because they can be destroy but boon totem can be destroy and replace right after. 1blessing will be worth the entire boon perk you bring so you have 4 boon perk equip you just need 1 boon totem to have all of them active. Finaly they never said the effect is going to be in an area for all we know it may be map wide.
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@Rezblaze said:
If a fricking TRAPPER can mind game for hits, then why are people suddenly thinking that the killer that can go invisible, zoom around pallets, and lunge right out of it for a hit suddenly can't do mind games?
Because the majority of survivor use iron will and she cant see them while the survivor know where she is. Its kinda hard to mind game something you cant see but they can see you
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The way i understand it is if the survivor have 2 boon perk 1 blessing will activate the 2 boon perk he have but 1 boon totem wont activate the entire team boon perk
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Dude slinger got a huge buff now when he aim he run faster that all you need like that you can run to survivor while you aim just like huntress
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Dont forget survivor get replace a hex with a blessing too i saw a mod say that in another post
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Like other said because survivor rule what get buff and nerf they are the one who buy the most cosmetic so ofc the dev will do their update with survivor benefit in mind
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I hate most of the change i like 2 change only and they are on trapper and the hatch/key the rest for me are a huge survivor buff.
After reading all of that i know for sure i wont be playing for a while its kinda sad because they work really hard for that update but i cant see enough positive for the killer side of thing.
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I should have been more clear when mori got destroy it was a surprise so killer could not spam them. Survivor are able to spam the key before they become completly useless its kinda sad that survivor are favor for that
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@justbecause said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2524069#Comment_2524069
Ohh that...well Boon totema will be nowhere close to ruin they'll not have much effect ruin is huge reward huge risk
We dont know that yet boon totem may be really strong. The fact that you can relight them make them already stronger compare to the hex perk.
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@OldHunterLight said:
Hello, I welcome you to being punished for using your power,
Welcome slinger mains, here we have the nurse mains and us the billy mains.
Take a seat, hopefully your nerf won't be as bad but we will see.
You forgot about the twin main were every time you use your power viktor get a DS stun
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@justbecause said:
Nope just use undying
I dont use undying its too unreliable you can have ruin for 2 minute or for 30 sec. That why i was wondering if killer will be able to re hex a totem that got cleanse you know because survivor will be able to do that whitout the use of a perk
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@ad19970 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2523585#Comment_2523585
Wait, as far as I can tell, nothing will even really change with the hatch endgame? Or am I missing something? Killers that want the 4k so bad are already slugging for that 4K anyways.
They slug only if they did not know were the hatch is. Now they are sure to slug for the 4k.
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Boin totem are probably goung to be op because killer dont have time to look for them imagine the killer bring no hex and survivor use 4 boon totem that killer will probably be #########
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@Plunk said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2520180#Comment_2520180
That's not really it since there's a lot of iron will players, now survivors know where you are and you as killer have to simply guess
It was already a guessing game cause of iron will exeot now instead of it being a 50/50 the odds are going to be in the survivor favor because of all the info they will get. I think spirit is dead after this update for the only reason when she use her power the survivor will have more info compqre to her
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@legacycolt said:
I will play her more because she takes skill to play now
The skill she required is the same as before the only difference is survivor will know where you are at all time so its not spirit that require more skill but the survivor who require to know how to look behind
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@Friendly_Blendette said:
Every new survivor is the same modernish era like why cant we get a 18th century girl accused of being a witch or a WW2 soildier or an ancienct roman or egyptian. Like compared to killers where we have nurse from an old asylum around WW1(IIRC), an ancient priestess, a samuri, some forest lady from around WW2(IIRC), some french peasants from the 1600 and a mad alchemist from the 1800. Survivors are all too samey imo its all X proffesion from X place and from 1970s-2020s and from the teasers this trend doesnt look like its gonna change even though the hints were towards a witchy survivor so I had just a little bit of hope maybe it was someone falsy accused from the Salem witch trials but with the video teaser it seems it will just be a stage performer from X country from 1970s-2020s
Every survivor are the same its only a skin with 3 new perk. So i dont think any survivor will be interessting
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@DoomedMind said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2517180#Comment_2517180
They're just touching killers' add-ons that are never used, it's not nerf nor buff.
Reread the patch they are touching addon they are never use or use to much this is not a good thing for killer we all know what happen when the dev touch the killer addon
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@GoshJosh said:
I have to ask because it's not really clear. Do you know that you're able to recall Victor from a latched survivor after a certain amount of time?
After 30 or 45 sec but if i need to do that the game is over
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@R2k said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/282388/my-twin-issue
Look at it from opposite side. U 100% sure one who hold victor hostage does nothing. So by that time u can pressure other people.
If you catch a survivor with a 115% speed killer with no power i dont think its cause of the killer skill but mostly because of the incompetance of the survivor
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PH is bug right now its not a huge bug but its enough to be an annoyance when you use his power this may be one if the reason we dont see him the other i can think of is the hold w meta
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Me the killer let me use some mind game at this loop the survivor response i will just hold w until i go down and if the killer is to close i drop the pallet
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Its not because you need 2 or 3 gen defemce perk that the game is too fast
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@VESSEL said:
My last game was on the 18th of July. I've been keeping a distance as I dropped off to do other things including new job, mental health and Hunt Showdown. I've seen the upcoming new changes and they all seem to be logical and good for once.
Should I come back even if It's just for 100 hours more? Killer main btw
If you play survivor come back a bunch of killer are getting destroy. If you play killer stay far away of this game
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@Fobbo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2517199#Comment_2517199
She could still be decent at least. Its not in the game yet so we cant really know how good she will be
Decent is not good demo is decent and he cant compete against good survivor.
Right now spirit is a 50/50 with the change she will because a 70/30 or 80/20 in the survivor favor because you know survivor will have more info then her.
Ofc when i talk about killer and survivor i dont put addon or perk in the equation
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@Angelicus23 said:
Over the years:
Pallets have been nerfed
healing has been nerfed
vaults have been nerfed
loops in every map have been nerfed
footstep sounds have been nerfed
every item has been nerfed
And you want more?
Imagine even witg all those nerf survivor are still the power role
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Hacking is probably fine in this game. The amount of thing you need to do to report them is absurd so i feel like the vame really dont want people to report them. Its not like the report are doing something either one hacker was streaming for 7 or 8h on twich and the best thing you can do is repirt them on twich so they cant stream anymore so their system is kind of a joke
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@Phasmamain said:
So nerfing a blatantly broken killer is a bad thing? Guess a balanced game isn’t a good thing to strive for
The spirit nerf are huge not only does survivor know when you use you power they will know the direction you are going and where you walk at all time in a chase.
Dont forget they are changing a lot of addon on the killer too its not just the spirit nerf. The only good thing is they finally put some effort on trapper.
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@vacaman said:
Pinhead is hard to play but he is not bad at all. The amount of slowdown you get with him specially if you manage to get an early kill is great.
The amount of slowdown you get by an early kill on any killer is huge XD.
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Wraith is probably getting nerf this mid chapter hes getting an addon pass. I saw nurse too so another strong killer will probably get nerf i cant wait to play bully simulator
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@Elena said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2517254#Comment_2517254
That's true, I guess I just try to be a glass half-full person, even if there hasn't been great outcomes.
The only thing im sure is spirit wont be viable anymore against good survivor she may have fun addon but those wont matter unless the survivor suck
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@Elena said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2517224#Comment_2517224
I dont know if you have seen but a lot of killer are getting an addon pass this is scary
While I'm not usually one to take the developers' word on things, they did say that the changes will "focus mostly on unused add-ons, or add-ons that are too weak/powerful." So it's not just complete nerfs altogether, then again they have made some add-ons quite trash over the years, so I understand that.
The dev prove too many time they cant be trust with an addon pass just look at billy, demo and freddy those killer have some of the worst addon a killer can ask for.
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Its not just 1 killer out of 25 its the fact spirit was one of the only killer that could compete against good survivor. I dont know if you have seen but a lot of killer are getting an addon pass this is scary too killer remember what happen to their favorite killer that got an addon pass. Worst thing we did not see everything yet so we have a lot of speculating but with what we have seen spirit wont be able to compete anymore
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@Fobbo said:
We dont see the spirit when she is phasing. We just see where she takes steps
Its the same thing you see the step she take so you see where she is. Not only that but you will know when she phase. Plus the addon pass forget it spirit will be bad now but lucky for the survivor they will need to learn how to face 2 killer instead of 3
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Maybe nurse will get nerf this patch they are touching her this patch.
Its a bit soon to jump to conclusion the thing we know for sure is spirit will be gone and for now we have blight and nurse for the high level survivor player
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For me i miss old freddy the most he was my favorute killer and the reason i pick this game up.
Right now for me they kill twin the DS stun after each pounce hurt her so much that i hate her.
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Just remove every killer and make it a gen simulateur game
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@Brimp said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2516122#Comment_2516122
You arent getting the point of spirit being faster than a survivor in phase...
She is faster but i can see you coming you will never hit me by surprise in any loop because i will know when you use your power and where you are. The best you will get is an early pallet
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@Brimp said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2516092#Comment_2516092
That's why I would position myself better to be phasing on the pallet so my superior speed will catch up despite you knowing where I am. You just gotta use your brain more
Then i will drop the pallet and when you are close im just going to vault it and just like that i cancel youre good play and put you in a 15 sec cooldown.
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@Brimp said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2514025#Comment_2514025
Unironically shes still the same. you cant just phase in the middle of the loop anymore. It just punishes poor phase positioning and makes dropping pallets early more viable
Shes not, lets say you and me do a 1v1 you are spirit im the survivor no perk no addon.
You start using your power i will have a sound queue with the direction you are going you know it so you try to mindgame me and you go in the other direction i see the cloud of dust so i know exactly where you are before i choose to move or do any action.
Do you see all the advantage i have compare to the spirit. Im not saying she dont deserve a nerf but what they did is too much.
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Think about you think its a secondary objectif for survivor but its a 3 or 4 objectif for killer so its a good thing they do that
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@Bluebird said:
I don't get why everyone says Spirit's dead now? All they did was add counterplay to her, something that ANY good Spirit can negate. This will just weed out the good Spirits from the bad...
...I'm one of the bad Spirits. :(
Survivor will see where you go when you use your power. So survivor get more info then you. They still did not show all the addon that going to get change so now people are scare of spirit getting the billy treatment for that. The nerf spirit will receive are huge ofc if the survivor suck it wont change anything for the spirit player
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@GrimoireWeiss said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2515611#Comment_2515611
Short bursts are literally unreactable. Spirit moves at around 7m/s while in phase, so good luck reacting to that if she phases for 1 and a half seconds.
Ehat make short burst strong is the fact survivor dont know if you use your power but now they will know you use your power and where you will get them spirit wont be good anymore aftrr that i think. Its still a wait and see but im not sure she will be able to compete against good survivor anymore
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@GrimoireWeiss said:
I honestly think she will barely be affected. Her strongest playstyle consists of short phase bursts and those nerfs barely affect this. If anything it will affect only bad Spirit players who use the entire power gauge.
Just equip that green hair brooch addon and everything will be fine.
The survivor will know the direction your coming from so your short burst is worthless against that.
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@KamalaGekido said:
Hey killers! Did you make the mistake of having fun and actually getting 2 or more kills in the last match? Fear not, you don't have to go against the sweatiest players in the entirety of the DBD community! All you need to do is play as Wraith and go AFK for about 10 games. Then you get at least one game where you can actually have fun. Maybe. Sometimes it doesn't even matter! Just don't play Spirit, they all run Iron will. Oh and don't even try to bring gen protection, cause they almost always have at least one guy with prove-thyself, making that useless.
Long story short, did you like having fun now and again when you have no idea whether or not the team you were up against has 600k+ hours on this game? Well too bad! :D
I use the same method exept i dont pick wraith because they can stun me 1 time with a flashlight and get some point. What i do is i go in a corner with twin and stay there and while im there i watch netflix