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@PickCollins said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/746024#Comment_746024
She was the only good killer against the sweatfest tryhard SWF coms teams.
And now with the basekit nerf she's in the water.
Those sweatfest teams are incredibly rare. You can't balance the game around them
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@PickCollins said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/745989#Comment_745989
Especially now. Nurse was our last hope that this game was the killers game and now she's been nerfed too hard.
You are bad if you think nurse is the only viable killer
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@Pulsar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/745976#Comment_745976
Survivors are still the power role of this game. If you take a team of the best Survivors versus the best Killer, the Survivors will win.
I didn't say survivors are weak or anything. Just wondering which killers got nerfed to the ground
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Survivors have gotten nerfed consistantly for years and they still keep playing
Can you please list these killers that got nerfed to the ground? @nos4a2
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Survivors got nerfed to the ground and they still keep playing.
One killer gets fixed and you start whining like killers keep getting nerfed.
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It's like a fake buff. I seriosly don't think anyone will be able to use it more than once since even using it once is almost impossible
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@Peanits said:
Yes, we did. They were far too powerful and didn't take any planning or skill to use. Any time you got hit, you could use it to get a free health state. You could even use a syringe after the killer downs a survivor to completely negate the entire chase and reset them back to healthy. It was definitely too much.
Are there any planned changes to moris? I think they also need some changes since instaheals are nerfed now.
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@PickCollins said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/745686#Comment_745686
She doesn't need her power to win chases unlike Nurse
Sure, if you can catch survivors with huntress' slow speed then why not? I really doubt you can against good survivors.
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@CrowFoxy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/744995#Comment_744995
Billy is definitely way easier than Nurse. Nurse takes a lot of hours to get good. You're just a salty survivor.
Nurse took me 5 matches to get good lol. She is easy to learn on pc
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@PickCollins said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/745371#Comment_745371
Nurse isn't an ez 4k. It might seem easy to bad Surviviors who get crushed by her, but Nurse is the most skill based killer in this entire game.
It is an easy 4k to me. Most skill based killer is easily huntress imo
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Test the changes first and then start whining if nurse is actually weak now
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@newavitar said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/745309#Comment_745309
The fact that you can't see it is what's ruining the balance. Nobody wants to deal with it. They just ignore it or actually believe it doesn't exist. But all you have to do is listen for a fraction of a second and complaints against the stupidest of #########. Instead of trying to develop counterplay, they #########. Tell me how that's not childish.
I can turn this around and say that killers want easy 4ks every single match by playing nurse and spirit. Nurse and spirit being way too powerful and killers like trapper,wraith, pig,legion being too weak ruins the balance. I play nurse and spirit and get 4ks almost every match. I also complain that they are way too powerful because it is too easy.
Both sides are childish in this community and whine about things constantly.
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@PickCollins said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/745307#Comment_745307
No viability is the ability to compete with hardcore players. You need to sweat your balls off as anything less than the current top 3 to hope to win in red ranks even against less coordinated Surviviors.
Why do you act like it is impossible to win with any other killer other than the top 3? You are going to have a hard time against really good survivors but it isn't impossible. Many people play other killers at rank 1 and they still win a lot. Those 4 man swfs with top players everyone keeps mentioning are a very small part of the entire playerbase
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I would also be fine with keys getting changed alongside with moris.
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Would rather go against omega blink nurse and thats saying something
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Imagine complaining about people being childish and then making this post
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/744995#Comment_744995
Nurse not requiring skill
*pinches self*
Yep, I'm awake
She absolutely doesn't on pc. She will now thanks to the changes
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Nurse and spirit doesn't really require much skill.
Kill me with billy or huntress and yeah you have skill
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Because people don't want any challange and want easy 4ks every match
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@luka2211 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/93693/the-dark-age-of-dbd-is-coming
i play freddy and im doing just fine without spirit or nurse,just cause YOU dont have enough skill to be able to outplay red rank survivors without bs spirits phase walk or nurses power doesnt mean you cant get 4ks in red ranks.Also you SHOULDNT BE ABLE to win each game aka 4k each game.You WILL lose from time to time and you need to get that into ur head and start playing a variety of other killers
This. I agree completely. Killers keep saying that survivors need to adapt but they keep whining about everything. good logic
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@justarandy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/744882#Comment_744882
Nurse is together with Huntress the hardest killer to learn. No clue what you are talking about but it doesn't make sense.
Nurse is very easy to learn on pc. Not even close to huntress' skill cap
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@Unicorn said:
Soooo... Why is this Survivors fault again?
Because survivors shouldn't complain about anything ever, only killers are allowed to complain and decide what needs to be changed
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@Naphemil said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/744626#Comment_744626
Maybe for small game bugs but I dont think I've ever seen a change on ptb reverted.... I feel as though the ptb is more like a place to test how the game is going to play out, kind of like training wheels for your bike when you were a kid.
Ghostface was changed a lot in the ptb, MoM was changed, spirit was changed. They do change things if they are necessary.
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@Rin_is_my_waifu said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/744437#Comment_744437
Let me translate: Spirit and nurse are not fun cause we can't bully and loop them for ages
Let me translate: spirit and nurse are balanced because I can get easy 4k's every match
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@Naphemil said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/744358#Comment_744358
You think the ptb is for testing lul....
Yeah, PUBLIC TEST BUILD isn't for testing at all.
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I could turn this around and say killers need to get good and not use broken killers.We just want counter play.
I don't see much complaint about freddy, he is absolutely fine.
I can play spirit and get consistent 4ks almost every single match. I don't consider that fun or balanced. It's too easy.
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@Raptorrotas said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/744247#Comment_744247
Remember that there are not only Killers in this forum, that other bunch doesnt like challenge either and wants to get easy e's.
back on topic:
Im not saying Nurse was killed or overnerfed. but she got a ~3 second timeframe added to her basic movement rotation that's feeding survivors distance to her in a chase or simply makes her map traversal worse by a margin. this IS quite a nerf for something that got "just slightly adjusted".
While the removal of the quite unneeded accuracity makes sense, counterplay was also improved by her now becoming visible earlier after blinking.
Well, if nurse is still good might boil down to 2 points:
- How much does the new cooldown for double blinks impact map traversal?
- How reliable can nurse hit survivors with solo blinks? (the new "skill"/"counterplay" requirement)
But i agree in one point.... the whoe speed limiters are always stupid.
If the recharge really makes her bad they can just make the recharge faster or even remove it entirely. People are forgetting that this is the ptb, they can and will make changes if necessary. The ptb isn't even out and people are whining already without even testing the changes yet.
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@AkiTheKitten said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/744244#Comment_744244
What addons make her op? Other than PB, what makes her OP exactly?
The purple ones especially make her too powerful in my opinion. Like one addon improves 3 things about her power with no downsides. I'm not saying they should make them useless or anything. Just tone them down a bit.
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@xllxENIGMAxllx said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/744247#Comment_744247
Maybe on PC the skill cap is low but on consoles nurse is hard and require more skill then his PC counterpart.
Yeah, I agree nurse is difficult on consoles but she too easy to learn and destroy survivors on PC.
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Continue victimizing yourselves. This is actually hilarious
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No. He can still be looped. I only think that the insta-chainsaw addons should be toned down, but they are still not as problematic as the other broken addons.
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People in this forum really don't want any challange and want to get easy 4ks every single match.
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You can deny it all you want but her addons do really need some adjusting and prayer beads needs to be reworked entirely.
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@Mochan said:
A lot of killer mains have attested that they can't get to Rank 1 using any other killer but when they use SPirit they can easily get to Rank 1.
Spirit really is EZ Mode. It's not to say you can be braindead and win with her, it still takes skill, but she is by far the easiest killer to get good results with a low skill floor.
She really is easy mode. I played as spirit for like 10 matches in a row at red ranks recently, only one person escaped. Totally balanced btw.
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So basically you want the old legion?
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If they are nerfing insta heals, everyone will be using them until the next patch. It's gonna be fun :)
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The reason why they are pissed is that they are used to getting easy 4ks every match:)
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@BlindMole said:
What worries me the most is that after nurse they will nerf spirit..... Than plague.
I unfortunately play on Ps4, so not a lot of nurses, but if they nerf spirit and plague..... I'll stop being afraid of killers in general.... To be afraid is why i got into this game, you know what i mean?
There's no reason for plague to be nerfed
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I laughed at the most skill intense part.
Just wait for the ptb. No need to make a thousand posts about this before you can't even try it.
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I don't get why people expect this game to be balanced around the 4man swf with top players. It isn't going to happen. You can't balance a game around a very small part of the playerbase.
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No we can't wait. We must complain before the update is even out because we know everything
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@Corrupted said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/741891#Comment_741891
That's why you buff solo queue to SWF levels. That way everyone will objectively agree on most things without anecdotal experiences, the devs will clearly see what killers need what buffs, etc.
Yeah, that's probably the best thing they could do. Buff solos to around swf levels and buff the killers
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@CrowFoxy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/741891#Comment_741891
So the 5% should always be allowed to Bully killers and win and deserve to never lose vs any killer?
Stop with this mentality that all survivors want to bully the killers.
This game will never be balanced. If you balance the game around the 5% then the other players will suffer. This isn't a competitive game. It's not going to happen
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@SpaceCoconut said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/741746#Comment_741746
Imagine seeing the same scenario play out again and again, and still believing that the devs know what they're doing.
PS it's 3 seconds per charge. The Nurse has 2 charges. It's 6 seconds.
6 seconds start before the fatigue it's like a 3 seconds recharge
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That match will give you actual depression lol. Probably the unluckiest thing that could happen to someone
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@DBDbuildsYT said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/742315#Comment_742315
How is this debatable Peanits? We are talking about a 3.5 seconds cooldown ( worst scenario) or a 2 seconds cool down ( in the best scenario) more than current base nurse who is already a reasonable killer.
How is this a "slight change" this is nerf and a big one
Yes, it is a nerf. But wait for the patch to see how much it will actually change her. It may not be as bad as you think.
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@SteelDragon said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/742306#Comment_742306
survivors when playing at maximum potential or just close to it is even a hard game for nurse/spirit. also don't forget about the ranking system, to rank up as survivor you can die, get 2-3 saves, do a gen or 2, get chased just a little bit and you will AT LEAST black pip, probably pip. for killer? 3k and some 4ks are a black pip, unless you 3 hook every survivor, win every chase, not use killers like billy and plague (because chaser emblem is broken for them) you will not pip. 2k will be AT BEST a black pip but most of the time a depip. and this is NOT counting for people who DC which will affect it HEAVILY
Rank doesn't mean anything in this game past like rank 10. It only shows how much you played that season.
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Probably insta heals because I can't really think of anything that needs changing on medkits.
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@PoisonN said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/742188#Comment_742188
Survivors mains won't allow buffs to weak killers. Even the Plague is getting a lot of complaint these days. Freddy is starting to get hate. None of them are in the save level of Spirit or Nurse... So, I guess nothing is perfect to survivors. They will always complain about anything. Nurse in my opinion was one of the hardest killer to learn and was in the same level of good teams. But yeah... Poor survivors.
I never saw any survivors not wanting buffs to weak killers. Of course there are the occasional survivors who just wants to bully killers. I don't think anyone will seriously think that buffing weak killers will be a bad thing.
Are you playing on consoles? I really don't think that nurse is hard to learn on pc