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@Hag.is.Dtier said:
I think this post confirms that DBD has the most sad, pathetic gaming community I've ever come across.
And this comment proves that people are ready to eat up everything devs suggest them.
You know such measures wouldn't be needed if we got proper feedback, right?
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@PrettyFaceKate said:
If your idea goes through, would BHVR would rather change:
- the most expensive skin in the game;
- or moris because you're hurting their cash cow by targeting their best customers?
I wonder MonkaHmm...
Both are good tbh, don't like ebony Moris in their current state.
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@cheetocultleader said:
Pfffffffffsh, you act like us Bunny Feng's aren't already use to this.
But there are much less Lisa players, so it will be much easier to... Cure them.
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@BoiltOver said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1358501#Comment_1358501
You ignore literally everything else I say and focus on one point to nail down on instead of seeing the big picture. Bruh.
Big picture. The skin costs higher than any DLC, it costs higher than 2 separate survivors/killers with different perk, other cosmetics, voices and lore. It nearly costs like 3 characters. All we want from this skin is it being seen as a different character by the game. Meaning for it to change the character's name in a lobby. We want another voice for Lisa because Cheryl's voice does not suit her. Lore info-page would be neat. We want this because the price is at the point where it's just a spit into a face to ignore such minor things about a cosmetic that costs this much. Stop using the argument that it's a cosmetic. It's an expensive cosmetic that needs to match it's price functionally. Different character models were introduced for the Legion that is free. Putting more afford into Lisa was needed because the Legion had less "rare" cosmetics and she has the most expensive cosmetic. But we only have another CHAINED model. You hear me? CHAINED. You can't buy one piece and be happy, nope. Pay all for just a model.
This policy is not fine. If you're fine with it, it doesn't mean others are okay with it. Especially the ones who were hyped for Lisa.
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@BoiltOver said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1358476#Comment_1358476
It's five dollars higher than a basic skin...
It's barely any higher than a normal skin. As I said it isn't that shocking that a LEGENDARY, and I stress legendary, the term used to describe most things in games that are high price for little gain is 15 dollars. I say it again, if the price is too high, don't buy it. Money talks more than petty tunneling of the skin.
You literally justify this type of thing because it has "legendary" title. Bruh.
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@BoiltOver said:
Bro......
You know rather than tunneling Lisas, perhaps just advocate for people to boycott the skin? People tunnel P3/Brown cosmetic Claudettes and guess what's still in the game? Blendette is. They aren't going to remove/change it if they're making money, and the people you tunnel have already bought it, they made the money ez pz.
Now, on the actual topic of the skin itself, I'm fine with it, not happy, not angry. Would it be more worth it if it had a unique voice? Possibly unless they gave it an annoying voice like Cheryl's current. But lore is a silly thing to expect or even want, the skin is a noncharacter, it's a SKIN not a character.
And charging around like fifteen dollars for a LEGENDARY SKIN isn't all that shocking, it's legendary after all. To be honest the skins are overpriced already, you can get 2 characters for the price of most skins, not to mention the rift which has a plethora of cosmetics and charms. Has it stopped me from buying them? No. It's just a cool little addition. Don't like it? Don't believe it's a just price? Don't buy it.
I want to buy it. But the price is too high to match the quality. And you KNOW it's unreasonably high. It's too high to say "you just complain about expensive stuff"! Any questions?
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@Zayn said:
Ah, now I see why my teammates and killers have been muppets towards me today. I literally bought the skin as soon as it came out and although I agree she isn't done properly it's really immature and lame to tunnel and mori someone because of a cosmetic they bought.
@BoiltOver said:
Bro......
You know rather than tunneling Lisas, perhaps just advocate for people to boycott the skin? People tunnel P3/Brown cosmetic Claudettes and guess what's still in the game? Blendette is. They aren't going to remove/change it if they're making money, and the people you tunnel have already bought it, they made the money ez pz.
Now, on the actual topic of the skin itself, I'm fine with it, not happy, not angry. Would it be more worth it if it had a unique voice? Possibly unless they gave it an annoying voice like Cheryl's current. But lore is a silly thing to expect or even want, the skin is a noncharacter, it's a SKIN not a character.
And charging around like fifteen dollars for a LEGENDARY SKIN isn't all that shocking, it's legendary after all. To be honest the skins are overpriced already, you can get 2 characters for the price of most skins, not to mention the rift which has a plethora of cosmetics and charms. Has it stopped me from buying them? No. It's just a cool little addition. Don't like it? Don't believe it's a just price? Don't buy it.
Oh, you support it?..
Oh...
Well...
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@Best_Cheryl_Main said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1357915#Comment_1357915
Imma big Silent Hill fan and dude they tried really hard with this chapter and it shows the only bad thing is the skin pricing
So it makes the complaint invalid?
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@kylerabdcgamer10 said:
This is most likely temporary, all of you need to calm down
Then we want the confirmation from mods/devs. ❤
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@twistedmonkey said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1358306#Comment_1358306
You got Lisa and what she is is probably due to the deal that could be made.
Lisa was always stated to be a legendary skin.
The character themselves is not owned by BHVR and as such they may only be able to do so much.
Of course you can complain but have you considered what you want may not be something BHVR can actually do with the her? Licensed deals are not just down to what they would like to do but more so what they are allowed too.
Who knows it may change over time but like Bill on console or Freddy on switch its not a decision they can always make alone.
I really doubt Konami would mind adding separate voice acting for Lisa and making her feel like a whole new character. C'mon. I can see why they would chain clothes. But it makes no sense for them to dismiss Lisa this much.
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@kosmi said:
That map is anything but complited!
I'm talking about how it looks and how it functions.
We leave the gameplay part away for this one. For now.
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@cheetocultleader said:
I mean, ngl, I bought it. I readily admit it's overpriced though and it's really just another skin. Nothing too special about it. It's not like her animations carry over into the game. So it's just a skin of another character, and should be priced like any other skin imo.
Hopefully BHVR takes this community feedback and learns from it. Perhaps once they're back in office, they'll consider adding voice lines.
You mean they aren't working now??
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@twistedmonkey said:
Always remember licensed content can cost more due to profit sharing. Its also down to the licensee what they can and cannot do.
To give her another voice could be more expensive as its another character not just a skin which could mean a different deal made.
Skins are also an optional. If one doesn't like it you don't have to purchase it.
imagine you wanted a bag of chips. The coverage looks good, the words that are written on it are promising. You really want it. There's the issue, the one who made this bag of chips grabs it and waves it in front of you as if they were teasing you. The one holding tells you that you need to pay the astronomical amount of money for it. You gather a good chunk of money you had for these delicious chips you were looking for. You get them, open the bag and... Nearly the 2/3 of the bag filled with air and the chips themselves don't even taste good.
You get the feelings? We want to get Lisa. We are ready to spend money on her. The "bag" looks promising, it's the overall model and menu animation look cute. The "inside" part (the voice, the lobby name, the lore) is bad. I want the skin but I don't like how it was treated during the development. That's why I complain to begin with. And I have the right to complain about it considering the price.
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@DeadArsenal said:
Didn't you know? Lisa has a drug habit. A lady of expensive tastes, you see?
Oh, so they tried to represent how much money she had taken in by making this price!
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@LordGlint said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1357935#Comment_1357935
I'm just saying every single chapter has expensive cosmetics that cost more than the chapter. This is like if I got all furious and called the news station to give em the huge insight that JUNE water is abit too wet for my taste. Literally every character in the game that has cosmetics has a cosmetic set that costs more than the character. If ya dont want to buy the cosmetic...dont.
Not really, some cosmetics can be bought with shards. And if they can be obtained with Auric Cells only, at least we have an option to buy separate pieces. Lisa comes as a linked cosmetic. So that's the issue too.
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@BBQnDemogorgon said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1358057#Comment_1358057
The Legion skins have been around for ages they didn't get unique voices. They were the price of 2 characters.
This standard was already set maybe if it was $20-$30
The Legion is free, iri shards.
Lisa is not so free as you can see.
Also, 20-30 dollars for a skin with a separate voice is a reasonable price for you? I'm bringing a plate with a fork for this one right here! 🤩 Anyone else joining me?
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@BBQnDemogorgon said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1358032#Comment_1358032
Its a $15 skin so...no? It's barely more than the skins we have had for years.
It's the price for 3 characters, what do you mean no? You can't give it at least a new voice?
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@BBQnDemogorgon said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1358003#Comment_1358003
Because she's a skin not a new character.
They never promised lore/separate character treatment they said day 1 she will be a skin.
A skin can't be a fully functioning separate character for this much money?
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@Johnny_XMan said:
Another immature thread.
There are other ways of providing feedback on someone you didn't like. It's really simple really.
No! 💗
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@Iceman said:
I feel everything will be to people "standard" when the game receive a graphic overhaul.
It's not about graphics, she doesn't have a separate voice, lore, in-game identification. She costs like 3 characters but she's not even slightly worth it.
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@LordGlint said:
Its pretty normal for high end cosmetics to be more expensive than characters...
Then make it worth it somehow! 💖
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@Darkskies said:
To be honest I'm happy with my purchase yeah I felt a little annoyed that she's not actually Lisa and doesnt have her own voice... the animation she has in the lobby I love tho.
I bought it because I haven't supported dbd in a long time tbh and I feel happy in doing so I'm loving the skin but can't put into words why.
Maybe because of moments like this this myers clearly hasn't got over his hospital issues lol
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/7KUA7QFW7H1S/img-20200616-230716.jpg
I'm happy to support bhrv hoping good changes are to come and hopefully they listen to your concerns and can add in unique feelings in the future.
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As killers we can make survivors who wear this skin not enjoy bringing it into the match. Just saying, we are the power house when we bring Mories. 👀
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@thrawn3054 said:
I get it feels half assed. But it's just a skin. If you don't want it. Don't buy it. I have no intention of buying this chapter because I don't want it.
Don't get me wrong but I kinda care about this chapter because I'm Silent Hill fan. And it feels like a spit into my face as a customer.
Man, I go into full Karen mod with this one.
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Y'all are uncultured that's why people don't let you turn on your music at parties. 🤩 Anyways, does it sound more like Silent Hill? Yes. Does it sound generally better? No. I rest my case.
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@ProfoundEnding said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1357858#Comment_1357858
Lol I'm pretty sure it's the same thing under every survivors clothes.
Oh, so for this price we aren't even getting the proper character's depiction? Yay.
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@Maelstrom10 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1357800#Comment_1357800
Bruh its just a skin, not a statement on captialist propoganda. if you don't want it you don't buy it? its overpriced sure, but its quite obvious (considering no other skin is that price) that its konami's licensing deal, and exclusivity coming into play? if you want to blame anyone blame konami lol, as much as i love them they're jackasses who would rather make money off of gambling machines in japan then invest in beloved franchises, and kick good developers (kojima) to the curb.
this also isin't me oh so enlightened defending bhvr. obviously they accepted the deal, but the mere fact we got a konami licensed chapter at the same price as other chapters? that alone is nuts to me. seems obvious to me atleast, tho could be wrong, that all the konami based cosmetics are purely there as additional buyers fluff in order to help with the konami deal. the lisa skin clearly got the shaft as being whilst obvs a better then avg skin (its still just a skin) and was more expensive due to it
its just a case of economic "goods" vs "bads" and the consumer either being happy with their choice to buy the "goods" or in this case to you an economic "bad". (thats an actual term btw im not just talking out of my ass just in case you weren't aware.)
im happy to spend a couple bucks extra to support the devs/konami despite it being overpriced and tbh not worth it in the long run, but a lot of people won't be and thats ok. its not some kind of scam to get people out of their money. its a choice.
If the price doesn't even slightly depict the product, people have all rights to complain. It's acceptable to slightly overprice things to make serious updates but this one right here is not okay, I don't even understand why you defend that. "Meh, they'll take it, whatever". Do you like this type of treatment? Okay.
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@Speshul_Kitten said:
This is what the Lisa’s in my lobbies are getting for supporting this.
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/5AWN1IO4OXDH/4718d531-d753-4263-813f-e0f1105d341c.jpeg
Bruh, not to sound perverted but I don't like how they just made her underwear a black square. I'm pretty sure it's to avoid the "fanservice" accusations but you alread have half-naked David and the Spirit (this lady wears bandages instead of clothes and have panties for her school uniform). We have a character that lore-wise was sexually abused by the man, her clothing still depicts that (red color, short uniform, heels). You're telling me Kaufmann made her dress up as lewd as possible but made her wear black boxers? The man is sick in the head.
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@Todgeweiht said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1357642#Comment_1357642
Konami demanding others to not get greedy? That pretty damn ironic don't you think?
Konami said: "Eat the rich!! 😍"
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@BBQnDemogorgon said:
It's still a skin idk why you guys expected more than a skin.
Even Legion only has 2 voices
It doesn't have the same price. AND you can get it for free.
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@Maelstrom10 said:
I mean you don't have to buy it. i didn't have to. i did because i really really really liked the look of it. sure it probably wasn't worth it but hey, my money to spend in the end, my money to waste too
@Eleghost said:
you don't have to buy it you know. It does change quite a bit on the character but i do agree the name should be changed as well but they probably left it as cheryl to avoid confusion.
It's not right to treat your costumers like this. You don't just suggest wasting this much money for a character that isn't even a fully functioning thing. You suggest a good product for a reasonable price because it's the developers' attitude towards you. The quality shouldn't be bad, you put afford into a product because you care.
How would you treat a person who'd suggest you to buy a rotten apple for the price of a gold nugget? You'd consider them insane at best but in this case it's just bad attitude generally. As if we were not worthy a better thing for this amount of money.
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@shinymon said:
This new one sounds more like what I'd find in a SH game, it certainly fits the style that Akira composes, whether or not he did work on it. You'd know what I mean if you played any of the games. I wasn't getting any SH vibes with the old one at all.
I know that it's more distorted and it certainly adds Silent Hill vibes but we don't want it if it sounds... Not that good. The previous one sounded like clean barbed wire and the new one is the same barbed wire but too rusty and covered in human remains to the point I don't see the wire.
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@[Deleted User] said:
More than a few in my thread disagreed.
Personally I think they should revert it for the killer, at the very least. The new one is too loud.
I haven't played Pyramid Head but it's also changed for him? Damn, these guys don't have any taste in music.
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@BigBrainMegMain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1357495#Comment_1357495
I googled it before my reply and I found nothing about his music in the game.
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/KO4I91R85RCS/akira-png.png
Only the Lobby Theme was talked about with him, that's it. He wasn't a part of the composition.
Bruh, then I wanna have a conversation with the person in the dev team who thinks the new chase music sounds better than the previous one.
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@TAG said:
I don't know which one is the new one, but they both sound good to me.
Second one was in the PTB. You can see it in the video's title.
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@HommeBizarre said:
The new one is much creepier, i'm sorry but I don't really the guitar
I guess they tried to make it more disturbing for survivors. But they only disturbed me with the fact how they ruined the chase music.
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@BigBrainMegMain said:
He had nothing to do with the music.
Or the addition to this game.
Konami owns ALL THE RIGHTS to the game and the franchise, he's just a Producer and a Composer for Silent Hill.
I heard that they brought him up for a bit, was I misinformed?
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Her hair looks much better on LOW settings, this update is... You know...
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Can't agree more! @Peanits, is there any chance we get the previous chase music in a hotfix? C'mon, it's not good now... It's much, MUCH worse.
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Every licenced chapter can be purchased only with real money, aka DLC or Auric Cells.
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For some reason there are much more people of older generations...
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@VolantConch1719 said:
Sure as hell don't feel like one though.
It is what it is.
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I just realized how strange strange it is to see much older people than you. Like, when you were not existing they were living, doing something. This isn't some history book, it's a real human-being right in front of you that had it's life before you were born. And there's a whole new generation Alpha forming...
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Am I the only one who literally have no specific artist that I listen to when it comes to music? I just live my life and when I hear some good music I just add it to my playlist. It doesn't matter where it comes from. Games, series, movies, random videos... A good chunk of my playlist consists of soundtracks, remixes, fan songs. Y'all out here share you favorite artists, find same interests, create strong opinions on certain types of things, and I... The f is this???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atY7ymXAcRQ&list=LLgIKUnhgIdYO1de1cWOndRQ&index=8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGzSFnLM4xA&list=LLgIKUnhgIdYO1de1cWOndRQ&index=19 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q5vYr-SWlY&list=LLgIKUnhgIdYO1de1cWOndRQ&index=9Tell me I'm not the only one... P L E A S E .
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You're just being too greedy to use Moris because "I'll save it for better players... *Colorful toxic players pop up* Or maybe just save it for much better players, just in case, I'll just use better add-ons!..."
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Empathy is a political thing nowadays, I see.
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To be honest, I can see how upset devs with these types of threads because they made Jane Romero's archive to show that they are not like that. But this game's lore is easy to forget because it's not even that interesting, like, it's a small bunch of short stories...
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Yeah, this challenge sucks, it's more about your teammates and a killer than you. You just need to be near while your good team loops a bad killer. And you need to level up Dwight to get good stealth perks, I don't main him, so it hurt my soul to waste bloodpoints on him.
Anyways, I can see these "got this ez challenge with 1 attempt by accident, lol, gitgud" coming.
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Yes.
Interesting to see how it works for DBD. The killer is kinda a predictor and the survivors are the prey. All similar to animals. So the pattern of the survivors' camouflage is the same.