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@jeridan said:
TBH the team was also ######### because apparently no gens were done to trigger the timer if you went afk long enough for crows.Maybe he was with survivors who leave gens at 99%.
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@Tsulan said:
@Vietfox said:
@Tsulan said:
@Vietfox said:
@Tsulan said:
Salty_Pearl said:@Weederick said:
@Salty_Pearl said:
@Weederick said:
Bing bong boy, mr f tier and betterbily are more important imo. She feels very wellrounded and enjoyable also.
Oh no definitely Wraith and Freddy come first, but she still needs a buff.
Do you mean the killtimer? Granted she could have some QoL changes, but killing someone with a trap is almost always gamewinning, it should stay a rarity and side effect.
RBTs are too easy to escape from, they need to at least make it harder to get off.
I agree. Went afk while being on the hook. Was unhooked, healed, a crow appeared over my head and I still had enough time to disarm the trap.
In the movie, they are under pressure. Don't really feels like that.
Maybe the killer sucked if you had all that time?
Also, you go afk while hooked for long enough to let all that happen? Idk rick...Never had a Amazon or DHL delivery guy ring at your door?
Ok, but the fact that the killer sucked sounds more plausible than the fact that traps are meh just because you experienced that.
What has a to long RBT timer to do with the killer sucking?
That you weren't down or dead when you came back from being afk.
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@Tsulan said:
@Vietfox said:
@Tsulan said:
Salty_Pearl said:@Weederick said:
@Salty_Pearl said:
@Weederick said:
Bing bong boy, mr f tier and betterbily are more important imo. She feels very wellrounded and enjoyable also.
Oh no definitely Wraith and Freddy come first, but she still needs a buff.
Do you mean the killtimer? Granted she could have some QoL changes, but killing someone with a trap is almost always gamewinning, it should stay a rarity and side effect.
RBTs are too easy to escape from, they need to at least make it harder to get off.
I agree. Went afk while being on the hook. Was unhooked, healed, a crow appeared over my head and I still had enough time to disarm the trap.
In the movie, they are under pressure. Don't really feels like that.
Maybe the killer sucked if you had all that time?
Also, you go afk while hooked for long enough to let all that happen? Idk rick...Never had a Amazon or DHL delivery guy ring at your door?
Ok, but the fact that the killer sucked sounds more plausible than the fact that traps are meh just because you experienced that.
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@Tsulan said:
Salty_Pearl said:@Weederick said:
@Salty_Pearl said:
@Weederick said:
Bing bong boy, mr f tier and betterbily are more important imo. She feels very wellrounded and enjoyable also.
Oh no definitely Wraith and Freddy come first, but she still needs a buff.
Do you mean the killtimer? Granted she could have some QoL changes, but killing someone with a trap is almost always gamewinning, it should stay a rarity and side effect.
RBTs are too easy to escape from, they need to at least make it harder to get off.
I agree. Went afk while being on the hook. Was unhooked, healed, a crow appeared over my head and I still had enough time to disarm the trap.
In the movie, they are under pressure. Don't really feels like that.
Maybe the killer sucked if you had all that time?
Also, you go afk while hooked for long enough to let all that happen? Idk rick... -
@Tsulan said:
@Vietfox said:
@pauloandrade22 said:
@Vietfox said:
@Tsulan said:
@Zarathos said:
Honestly reward proactive killers make being hooked as a survivor carry a permanent debuff for the trial that reduces action speed or gen progression. This make tunneling less optimum as you will be rewarded better for hunting other targets.Every time devs try to come down on camping it's only made killers more toxic. This idea slows the game down which is badly needed. Promotes anti tunneling which this game could do with and plays better into the theme of the entity slowly devouring your strength and hope.
It´s not that killers become more toxic. But most killers are fed up to be called out on using non camping perks like BBQ and MYC and still be called a camper.
I don't know how often you play as a survivor, but i've seen MANY killers running BBQ and still camp really hard.
BBQ is for them sweet points ma man/woman.
Yes, but @Tsulan used that perk as an example, that's why i mentioned it.
And the killer only gets those sweet points if he hooks everyone once.
I has become increasingly hard to see survivors with BBQ. Partly because survivors finally hide behind gens, partly because the aura reading was nerfed on survivor demand. So i´m not really sure what survivors want. They want the killer to leave the hook, but don´t want him to come to them.
They want to be able to loop a killer for 5 gens, but don´t like the idea that he comes right to them after hooking someone else.
It´s really confusing.
And yes, i also hide from BBQ. But i don´t complain about camping or BBQ being OP.I've never complained about BBQ as far as i know, like many other survivor mains. (not saying others don't)
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@pauloandrade22 said:
@Vietfox said:
@Tsulan said:
@Zarathos said:
Honestly reward proactive killers make being hooked as a survivor carry a permanent debuff for the trial that reduces action speed or gen progression. This make tunneling less optimum as you will be rewarded better for hunting other targets.Every time devs try to come down on camping it's only made killers more toxic. This idea slows the game down which is badly needed. Promotes anti tunneling which this game could do with and plays better into the theme of the entity slowly devouring your strength and hope.
It´s not that killers become more toxic. But most killers are fed up to be called out on using non camping perks like BBQ and MYC and still be called a camper.
I don't know how often you play as a survivor, but i've seen MANY killers running BBQ and still camp really hard.
BBQ is for them sweet points ma man/woman.
Yes, but @Tsulan used that perk as an example, that's why i mentioned it.
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@PinkEricka said:
Th3Nightmare said:dizzy killers for 5 gens thanks to objects, perks and the map?
I think something is wrong for a killer to have to follow a survivor for 5 gens. Maybe the killer is not good enough? It could be but I have seen pretty good killers that have lost the whole game following a survivor for 5 gens, something is wrong with the game.
I agree with @Vietfox.
If the survivor has looped you for 5 gens straight then you’re just bad at killer. Yeah, the survivor can waste a lot of your time but that’s why BL was put in the game, to help the killer catch up to the survivor if the chase goes on for too long...
Also, you don’t necessarily need have to keep chasing the survivor that you claim was wasting all of your time.. If he is wasting a lot of your time then he’s good and obviously you should stop the chase and go after someone else unless you’re just going to camp him on the hook.
I remember i once had to face an incredibly good survivor, noticed that it would take so long and left. That survivor started to fast vault windows to taunt me, i ignored him and killed 2. Once there were 2 remaining i decided to go for the next one, eventually caught him and when i was picking him up he dc'ed. Since it was an unfair match because that survivor got cocky i decided to catch the last one and drop him at the hatch.
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@Orion said:
@Vietfox said:
@Th3Nightmare said:
@Vietfox said:
One single survivor from 0 to 5 gens? That's killer's fault without a doubt.I have 1700 hours and I have been in rank 1 of survivor and easily the game gives me the ease of dizzy to killer by very good that is during all the game of 0 to 5 gens.
If a survivor outplays you in every way why do you keep chasing the same one? Go for another one, you should know that with those 1700 hours. Even you can make the other ones throw the pallets and break them so the good one won't be able to use them.
The guy is a Survivor, and the supposed strong side should never be overpowered by the supposed weak side to the point the only solution is to literally give up on trying to get them.
That's your opinion. I personally think that if someone is skilled enough should be rewarded, not get caught no matter what the survivor does.
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@Th3Nightmare said:
@Vietfox said:
One single survivor from 0 to 5 gens? That's killer's fault without a doubt.I have 1700 hours and I have been in rank 1 of survivor and easily the game gives me the ease of dizzy to killer by very good that is during all the game of 0 to 5 gens.
If a survivor outplays you in every way why do you keep chasing the same one? Go for another one, you should know that with those 1700 hours. Even you can make the other ones throw the pallets and break them so the good one won't be able to use them.
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One single survivor from 0 to 5 gens? That's killer's fault without a doubt.
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@Tsulan said:
@Zarathos said:
Honestly reward proactive killers make being hooked as a survivor carry a permanent debuff for the trial that reduces action speed or gen progression. This make tunneling less optimum as you will be rewarded better for hunting other targets.Every time devs try to come down on camping it's only made killers more toxic. This idea slows the game down which is badly needed. Promotes anti tunneling which this game could do with and plays better into the theme of the entity slowly devouring your strength and hope.
It´s not that killers become more toxic. But most killers are fed up to be called out on using non camping perks like BBQ and MYC and still be called a camper.
I don't know how often you play as a survivor, but i've seen MANY killers running BBQ and still camp really hard.
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I like the idea, but as others have mentioned already, numbers are too high.
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Maybe both are trans

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@Brady said:
@yeet said:
@Brady said:
I quote with reasoning:
@Brady said:
Self Care is not a problem, at all. It's in the meta because it's a simple perk that has common sense to be in the game. And a great plus on actually being a lone wolf. You know, the way the devs originally intended this game would be like.Run without Self Care, at any given rank, and you'll see there isn't a that much of a difference at all. It just makes solo players less reliant on other players, and when you solo, that's something you know.. that's really nice. Stop trying to take that away.
"It'll prevent mindless actions like bodyblocking, etc" lol no it won't and it hasn't. I still bodyblock without Self Care, and so fourth.
And if you change Self Care, Bond's gonna be meta along with the possibility of Botany, Empathy, or Leader making it's way up there too. Give or take. Maybe even We'll Make It will become more meta too. And you know what that means?
Faster Heals, grouped up so faster gen rushes, and way more coordination due to everyone running Bond because Self Care wouldn't even be considered worth a perk slot.
Just my opinion.
healing in general needs to be limited imo
Really? That's a very unreasoning opinion.
Dont be like that c'mon. Though we might not agree with @yeet on SC being limited i like how he's changed, from "git gud" comments to a more respectful ones.
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@RSB said:
1. Don't play killer if you want to still like this game.
2. Survivors are overpowered, and just can run in circles for the 2-3 gens till you catch them.
3. Devs are nerfing killers for 2 years, while catering to survivors.
4. The higher you go in ranking eith the killer, the more toxic and entitled survivors are.
5. You will face thousands of entitled survivors with made up rules, like "do not tunnel" or "do not camp", snd will flame you even if you did not do duch things.
6. They will rush to the hook the same second you hooked domeone, and call you a camper for it.
7. Prepare for spam of insults on your profile, survivors are the most toxic things on internet thanks to pedophiles like ochido (currently I have 34 pages of insults on my profile, I enjoy collecting them)
8. Always kill them, do not have mercy, because if you let them alive, they will spam with "EZEZEZEZ NOOB KILLER [BAD WORD] #########"
9. Run Ruin, because it is almost mandatory on killers.
10. This game is not fair for killers (fir example hex perks, some survivor perks, some mechsnics etc) - get used to it.I love your drama posts.
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Self care is not a problem at all.
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@SovererignKing said:
Vietfox said:@SovererignKing said:
@Vietfox Want to play poker with me? I stack the deck, just so you know. Come on, it’ll be fun. You don’t care if you lose and I gloat in your face right? It’s just a game man, have fun with it. Take it easy man.
See how stupid that sounds? That’s what you sound like when you say Killers are cowards for dodging SWF. SWF offers so many advantages, playing Killer against that, it’s like playing poker against someone who stacks the deck.
Wait, there's more: https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/96725#Comment_96725
As you can see, i don't give a #########, bring it on, I just want to play the game.
Yeah, you don’t give a #########. Simply because you don’t give a ######### about Killer. You only care about your Survivor and “having fun” being powerful as a Survivor. You whine and moan about balance for when it comes to Killers being “OP” but as soon as Killers say anything, you go on a rant. Don’t be a hypocrite.
Yeah because as i already said i don't get people who constantly asks for nerfs and stuff.
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@PinkEricka said:
Orion said:@PinkEricka said:
Right, like killers don’t nod their head after they hook a survivor? I’m pretty sure it came from both sides so no need to act like killer mains are that innocent...
Did you read past the first sentence? There's only two sentences in there, and one is six words long. Is that how long your attention span lasts?
I did. Did you not say killers picked up those bad habits as well?
Orion is apparently always like this, tackling other people with her replies xD> @Orion said:
@Vietfox said:
@PinkEricka said:
Orion said:@PinkEricka said:
Right, like killers don’t nod their head after they hook a survivor? I’m pretty sure it came from both sides so no need to act like killer mains are that innocent...
Did you read past the first sentence? There's only two sentences in there, and one is six words long. Is that how long your attention span lasts?
I did. Did you not say killers picked up those bad habits as well?
@Orion is apparently always like this, tackling other people with her replies xD
Did you just assume my gender?
Yes
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@PinkEricka said:
Orion said:@PinkEricka said:
Right, like killers don’t nod their head after they hook a survivor? I’m pretty sure it came from both sides so no need to act like killer mains are that innocent...
Did you read past the first sentence? There's only two sentences in there, and one is six words long. Is that how long your attention span lasts?
I did. Did you not say killers picked up those bad habits as well?
@Orion is apparently always like this, tackling other people with her replies xD
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@PinkEricka said:
Orion said:That's just the way Survivors are. Unfortunately, Killers picked up those bad habits as well.
Right, like killers don’t nod their head after they hook a survivor? I’m pretty sure it came from both sides so no need to act like killer mains are that innocent...
I understand that it can be annoying for most of the people, but i honestly laugh when they do it. There are many ways to take this kind of stuff, but at the end is having fun what really matters.
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@PinkEricka said:
Vietfox said:@PinkEricka said:
Vietfox said:
@PinkEricka said: Vietfox said:
@PinkEricka said: Vietfox said:
@PinkEricka said: Vietfox said:
@Orion said:
@Vietfox said: @Eeyoretheskeptic said: I really want to enjoy this game. But so far it is the only game I've ever played that players seem to go out of their way when they win to message me and tell me how bad i suck. I get it. I'm trying out new killers and your SWF group with full toolboxes rolled me in like 3 min. Good for you? Seriously. Why do this? SWF and carrying toolboxes is NOT toxic. Telling you that you suck it is.
Simply ignore them, most probably are 14 yo ochido-wannabes kids. Did you even read the thread? The point is not the toolboxes; the point is the post-game harassment. I did, that's why i mentioned it in my last message. Do you even read what you quote? But mentioning swf and toolboxes in a post about toxicity can misslead to think that those things are toxic too, that's why i wanted to make it clear, AGAIN.
Survivors carrying toolboxes is toxic if they have sabo toolboxes. I could say BNP but they nerfed that ######### down so much it’s completely useless. Whoever spends 7K on that is an idiot. I've personally used sabo toolboxes only for the dailies, but i wouldn't call toxic to the people who used it more often, it's a game feature. If you think it's toxic create a thread about it and let devs decide. About encouraging lobby dodging... that's simply wrong. Cherry picking lobbies and refuse to play against swf groups is just coward, and if you go for it and get destroyed by them, IT'S FINE! not a big deal, it's a damn game! You kind of misinterpreted what I said lol... SWF carrying sabo toolboxes is toxic. There are plenty of times me and my SWF group brought them in and the end result was the killer not having even one hook at the least.
And I already said that lobby dodging is wrong... did you not read what I said at all? Again, if you think it's toxic talk about it with the devs, but it's a game feature, like it or not. "I hate to encourage lobby dodging but I completely understand doing it to avoid conflicts like these" ^ I did read what you wrote, it's right above this sentence. You say it's wrong but at the same time you say it's not xD
It’s not wrong to lobby dodge a SWF group that you know will brag or send you hate after the match is over. Its only wrong if you can’t stand a challenge and good teamwork. The thing is, how do you know a swf group will brag or send you hate after the match by watching them at the lobby? xD Toolboxes, flashlights... all items and addons (survivors and killer ones) are game features, and you can be a fair player even when using them, and if you don't like it, there's a killer perk for that, FD. Because most SWFs do that and if you have even the slightest experience with killer you would know that.
Like I’ve said like twice now I have no problem with SWF other than that. You can stop treating me like a whiny killer main now.
I admit that i'm a survivor main, but i also got experience as a killer. The difference between you and me is that i don't give a ######### about losing, getting t-bagged, etc.
"You can stop treating me like a whiny killer main now." see? you are easily bothered by replies which i never meant in that way. Take it easy man.
I’m a survivor main too but the point I’m trying to make is that it’s highly irritating getting a whole ass full of salt mail in your DM’s whenever you’ve played fairly or not. When you piss off one of them, you piss off all of them and receive hate from the entire group. I’ve experienced that way too many times. I can always just turn off my messages but the only thing that stops me is the occasional “gg” from the opposing sides and the chance to make new friends to play SWF with.
I’m only bothered by the fact that every single time I stand up for killers which I rarely do, survivor mains on this forum want to jump up and say “wow you’re a whinny killer main!1!1!” when really I just understand how it’s like to be treated with little respect when you’re just trying to have fun.
Quick reminder, there are people on this forum who defends killers 24/7 and blame survivors for every little mishap cough cough ^^^^^^^^
I never said you were a whinny killer main. Just don't mind those salty survivors, they are most probably kids. I'm sure you can be better than them.
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@SovererignKing said:
@Vietfox Want to play poker with me? I stack the deck, just so you know. Come on, it’ll be fun. You don’t care if you lose and I gloat in your face right? It’s just a game man, have fun with it. Take it easy man.See how stupid that sounds? That’s what you sound like when you say Killers are cowards for dodging SWF. SWF offers so many advantages, playing Killer against that, it’s like playing poker against someone who stacks the deck.
Wait, there's more: https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/96725#Comment_96725
As you can see, i don't give a #########, bring it on, I just want to play the game.
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@SovererignKing said:
@Vietfox Want to play poker with me? I stack the deck, just so you know. Come on, it’ll be fun. You don’t care if you lose and I gloat in your face right? It’s just a game man, have fun with it. Take it easy man.See how stupid that sounds? That’s what you sound like when you say Killers are cowards for dodging SWF. SWF offers so many advantages, playing Killer against that, it’s like playing poker against someone who stacks the deck.
Cool story
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@Orion said:
@ChraizE said:
That's a typical score for a face camper. You didn't "kill" anybody you just got a hook and camped until death that's not even playing the game properly you deserved far less to be honest. Killers like you really should consider not playing DBD (I mean that in the nicest way possible).Pretty sure he killed people. They're dead, right?
That's why @ChraizE used quotation marks on the word "kill"
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@Tsulan said:
My proposal:
Botany Knowledge + We´ll make it + Pharmacy + Prove Thyself.I kinda run that when i want to play as a paramedic
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I agree, rank means nothing.
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@PinkEricka said:
Vietfox said:@PinkEricka said:
Vietfox said:
@PinkEricka said: Vietfox said:
@PinkEricka said: Vietfox said:
@Orion said:
@Vietfox said: @Eeyoretheskeptic said: I really want to enjoy this game. But so far it is the only game I've ever played that players seem to go out of their way when they win to message me and tell me how bad i suck. I get it. I'm trying out new killers and your SWF group with full toolboxes rolled me in like 3 min. Good for you? Seriously. Why do this? SWF and carrying toolboxes is NOT toxic. Telling you that you suck it is.
Simply ignore them, most probably are 14 yo ochido-wannabes kids. Did you even read the thread? The point is not the toolboxes; the point is the post-game harassment. I did, that's why i mentioned it in my last message. Do you even read what you quote? But mentioning swf and toolboxes in a post about toxicity can misslead to think that those things are toxic too, that's why i wanted to make it clear, AGAIN.
Survivors carrying toolboxes is toxic if they have sabo toolboxes. I could say BNP but they nerfed that ######### down so much it’s completely useless. Whoever spends 7K on that is an idiot. I've personally used sabo toolboxes only for the dailies, but i wouldn't call toxic to the people who used it more often, it's a game feature. If you think it's toxic create a thread about it and let devs decide. About encouraging lobby dodging... that's simply wrong. Cherry picking lobbies and refuse to play against swf groups is just coward, and if you go for it and get destroyed by them, IT'S FINE! not a big deal, it's a damn game! You kind of misinterpreted what I said lol... SWF carrying sabo toolboxes is toxic. There are plenty of times me and my SWF group brought them in and the end result was the killer not having even one hook at the least.
And I already said that lobby dodging is wrong... did you not read what I said at all? Again, if you think it's toxic talk about it with the devs, but it's a game feature, like it or not. "I hate to encourage lobby dodging but I completely understand doing it to avoid conflicts like these" ^ I did read what you wrote, it's right above this sentence. You say it's wrong but at the same time you say it's not xD
It’s not wrong to lobby dodge a SWF group that you know will brag or send you hate after the match is over. Its only wrong if you can’t stand a challenge and good teamwork.
The thing is, how do you know a swf group will brag or send you hate after the match by watching them at the lobby? xD
Toolboxes, flashlights... all items and addons (survivors and killer ones) are game features, and you can be a fair player even when using them, and if you don't like it, there's a killer perk for that, FD.
Because most SWFs do that and if you have even the slightest experience with killer you would know that.
Like I’ve said like twice now I have no problem with SWF other than that. You can stop treating me like a whiny killer main now.
I admit that i'm a survivor main, but i also got experience as a killer. The difference between you and me is that i don't give a ######### about losing, getting t-bagged, etc.
"You can stop treating me like a whiny killer main now." see? you are easily bothered by replies which i never meant in that way. Take it easy man.
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Agreed
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@NextKillerSpongebob said:
@Vietfox said:
@NextKillerSpongebob said:
@Vietfox said:
Mmmm OP profile is pretty recent and he also was the first one in this discussion from killinginstinct to reply: https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/90171#Comment_90171Guys, i think @KillingInstinct and @NextKillerSpongebob are the same person xD
What do you think @chemical_reject and @Mc_Harty??
I know u xD. You're known for stopping by threads of a lot of people and tend to only stand on the survivor side. Sorry that my few comments are on threads or a thread of ''KillingInstinct''. Not sure why I would be the same person as him/her tho just because I commented on one of his/her threads.
Not because you commented in one of his threads, that's just an extra, but because you talk almost the same way he does.
"and tend to only stand on the survivor side" Read this: https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/14272/since-swf-seems-to-be-an-issue-this-might-be-a-solution
I will take your one post into consideration of my opinion. How am I talking like him though? Just because I am more on the killer side like a lot of other people?
No, the words you use. Feel free to check @KillingInstinct profile and see for yourself. I advise you to read "Last Survivor" and "Pallet looping" posts.
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@NextKillerSpongebob said:
@Vietfox said:
Mmmm OP profile is pretty recent and he also was the first one in this discussion from killinginstinct to reply: https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/90171#Comment_90171Guys, i think @KillingInstinct and @NextKillerSpongebob are the same person xD
What do you think @chemical_reject and @Mc_Harty??
I know u xD. You're known for stopping by threads of a lot of people and tend to only stand on the survivor side. Sorry that my few comments are on threads or a thread of ''KillingInstinct''. Not sure why I would be the same person as him/her tho just because I commented on one of his/her threads.
Not because you commented in one of his threads, that's just an extra, but because you talk almost the same way he does.
"and tend to only stand on the survivor side" Read this: https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/14272/since-swf-seems-to-be-an-issue-this-might-be-a-solution
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@Chi said:
@powerbats said:
@Chi said:
@White_Owl said:
Why don't you chase them out then?Because I am a bad Huntress/Nurse. It is hard to chase them out when you can't hit a hatchet or land a blink.
Practice is key, get into a kyf match and practice on Crotus since that's a really good one to.
I wish I could, but I don't have any friends to practice with.
Maybe I will try and look into the discord server, thank you!
Add me as well, i'll be able to play with you as soon as my laptop gets fixed. -
Can we stop talking about Ochido? He deserves nothing, not even being named here in the forums.
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Can we stop talking about Ochido? He deserves nothing, not even being named here in the forums.
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@PinkEricka said:
Vietfox said:@PinkEricka said:
Vietfox said:
@PinkEricka said: Vietfox said:
@Orion said:
@Vietfox said: @Eeyoretheskeptic said: I really want to enjoy this game. But so far it is the only game I've ever played that players seem to go out of their way when they win to message me and tell me how bad i suck. I get it. I'm trying out new killers and your SWF group with full toolboxes rolled me in like 3 min. Good for you? Seriously. Why do this? SWF and carrying toolboxes is NOT toxic. Telling you that you suck it is.
Simply ignore them, most probably are 14 yo ochido-wannabes kids. Did you even read the thread? The point is not the toolboxes; the point is the post-game harassment. I did, that's why i mentioned it in my last message. Do you even read what you quote? But mentioning swf and toolboxes in a post about toxicity can misslead to think that those things are toxic too, that's why i wanted to make it clear, AGAIN.
Survivors carrying toolboxes is toxic if they have sabo toolboxes. I could say BNP but they nerfed that ######### down so much it’s completely useless. Whoever spends 7K on that is an idiot. I've personally used sabo toolboxes only for the dailies, but i wouldn't call toxic to the people who used it more often, it's a game feature. If you think it's toxic create a thread about it and let devs decide. About encouraging lobby dodging... that's simply wrong. Cherry picking lobbies and refuse to play against swf groups is just coward, and if you go for it and get destroyed by them, IT'S FINE! not a big deal, it's a damn game! You kind of misinterpreted what I said lol... SWF carrying sabo toolboxes is toxic. There are plenty of times me and my SWF group brought them in and the end result was the killer not having even one hook at the least.
And I already said that lobby dodging is wrong... did you not read what I said at all?
Again, if you think it's toxic talk about it with the devs, but it's a game feature, like it or not.
"I hate to encourage lobby dodging but I completely understand doing it to avoid conflicts like these"
^ I did read what you wrote, it's right above this sentence. You say it's wrong but at the same time you say it's not xD
It’s not wrong to lobby dodge a SWF group that you know will brag or send you hate after the match is over. Its only wrong if you can’t stand a challenge and good teamwork.
The thing is, how do you know a swf group will brag or send you hate after the match by watching them at the lobby? xD
Toolboxes, flashlights... all items and addons (survivors and killer ones) are game features, and you can be a fair player even when using them, and if you don't like it, there's a killer perk for that, FD. -
@PinkEricka said:
Vietfox said:@PinkEricka said:
Vietfox said:
@Orion said:
@Vietfox said: @Eeyoretheskeptic said: I really want to enjoy this game. But so far it is the only game I've ever played that players seem to go out of their way when they win to message me and tell me how bad i suck. I get it. I'm trying out new killers and your SWF group with full toolboxes rolled me in like 3 min. Good for you? Seriously. Why do this? SWF and carrying toolboxes is NOT toxic. Telling you that you suck it is.
Simply ignore them, most probably are 14 yo ochido-wannabes kids. Did you even read the thread? The point is not the toolboxes; the point is the post-game harassment. I did, that's why i mentioned it in my last message. Do you even read what you quote? But mentioning swf and toolboxes in a post about toxicity can misslead to think that those things are toxic too, that's why i wanted to make it clear, AGAIN.
Survivors carrying toolboxes is toxic if they have sabo toolboxes. I could say BNP but they nerfed that ######### down so much it’s completely useless. Whoever spends 7K on that is an idiot.
I've personally used sabo toolboxes only for the dailies, but i wouldn't call toxic to the people who used it more often, it's a game feature. If you think it's toxic create a thread about it and let devs decide.
About encouraging lobby dodging... that's simply wrong. Cherry picking lobbies and refuse to play against swf groups is just coward, and if you go for it and get destroyed by them, IT'S FINE! not a big deal, it's a damn game!
You kind of misinterpreted what I said lol... SWF carrying sabo toolboxes is toxic. There are plenty of times me and my SWF group brought them in and the end result was the killer not having even one hook at the least.
And I already said that lobby dodging is wrong... did you not read what I said at all?
Again, if you think it's toxic talk about it with the devs, but it's a game feature, like it or not.
"I hate to encourage lobby dodging but I completely understand doing it to avoid conflicts like these"
^ I did read what you wrote, it's right above this sentence. You say it's wrong but at the same time you say it's not xD -
@PinkEricka said:
Vietfox said:@Orion said:
@Vietfox said: @Eeyoretheskeptic said: I really want to enjoy this game. But so far it is the only game I've ever played that players seem to go out of their way when they win to message me and tell me how bad i suck. I get it. I'm trying out new killers and your SWF group with full toolboxes rolled me in like 3 min. Good for you? Seriously. Why do this? SWF and carrying toolboxes is NOT toxic. Telling you that you suck it is.
Simply ignore them, most probably are 14 yo ochido-wannabes kids.
Did you even read the thread? The point is not the toolboxes; the point is the post-game harassment.
I did, that's why i mentioned it in my last message. Do you even read what you quote?
But mentioning swf and toolboxes in a post about toxicity can misslead to think that those things are toxic too, that's why i wanted to make it clear, AGAIN.
Survivors carrying toolboxes is toxic if they have sabo toolboxes. I could say BNP but they nerfed that ######### down so much it’s completely useless. Whoever spends 7K on that is an idiot.
I've personally used sabo toolboxes only for the dailies, but i wouldn't call toxic to the people who used it more often, it's a game feature. If you think it's toxic create a thread about it and let devs decide.
About encouraging lobby dodging... that's simply wrong. Cherry picking lobbies and refuse to play against swf groups is just coward, and if you go for it and get destroyed by them, IT'S FINE! not a big deal, it's a damn game!
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@Orion said:
@Vietfox said:
@Eeyoretheskeptic said:
I really want to enjoy this game. But so far it is the only game I've ever played that players seem to go out of their way when they win to message me and tell me how bad i suck. I get it. I'm trying out new killers and your SWF group with full toolboxes rolled me in like 3 min. Good for you? Seriously. Why do this?SWF and carrying toolboxes is NOT toxic. Telling you that you suck it is.
Simply ignore them, most probably are 14 yo ochido-wannabes kids.Did you even read the thread? The point is not the toolboxes; the point is the post-game harassment.
I did, that's why i mentioned it in my last message. Do you even read what you quote?
But mentioning swf and toolboxes in a post about toxicity can misslead to think that those things are toxic too, that's why i wanted to make it clear, AGAIN. -
@Eeyoretheskeptic said:
I really want to enjoy this game. But so far it is the only game I've ever played that players seem to go out of their way when they win to message me and tell me how bad i suck. I get it. I'm trying out new killers and your SWF group with full toolboxes rolled me in like 3 min. Good for you? Seriously. Why do this?SWF and carrying toolboxes is NOT toxic. Telling you that you suck it is.
Simply ignore them, most probably are 14 yo ochido-wannabes kids. -
@Milo said:
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I read: > @Nickenzie said:
I wanna see more sex perks
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No, it's 5 and above.
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Good job

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@powerbats said:
WARNING THE FOLLOWING POST CONTAINS INTENSE SARCASM !!!!!!!!!!By the same token the killer sitting there camping the hooked victim and repeatedly hitting them and doing nothing else. That should cause the unhooked person to instantly be automatically unhooked and all survivors be teleported to the inside of the exit gates with all gens being done and credited to all survivors.
The killer meanwhile gets rooted to the spot and can't move until the survivors leave which they get slowly forced out by a wall.
Awesome xD
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@MegMain98 said:
I do like Last Chance, it’s good for an end-game build...especially paired with Adrenaline it could be a great perk to use. It’s not OP but everybody will complain and whine that it is
End-game build assuming you haven't been hooked during the whole match. I personally think it's very situational.
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You can survive without perks and kill without perks as well, i mean, IT IS possible. What's your point? xD
Builds are meant to counter other builds or tactics, like BT against campers.@JaPonii said:
*You don't need builds, it's really simple- Hide in Grass
- Use Flashlight
- Go Left not Right
- Most of the time, a Killer's mentality is that YOU will turn right...go Left
- Wiggle
- Juke, Spin, Wiggle, Wiggle, Wiggle
Congratulations! The Killer doesn't want to chase you anymore, you are deemed too hard and not worth the Killer's time.
^ Works 100% of the times sarcasm
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Just hit them and get more BPs.
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@Orion said:
@Brady said:
God, you're all so rude to his frustration.Sucks man, I'm sorry you're having bad luck. Maybe you'll get better luck in the next six levels, if not don't put too much energy in it okay? It is a game, not life.
He'd get courteous responses if he were courteous in kind. Fact is, this has to be the third or fourth thread he's made about this "bug" and still does not acknowledge that it's because the bloodweb is random and that the developers are not to blame for his bad luck.
Finally something we agree on

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@Orion said:
It's random. Say it with me now, random.Some humans don't understand probability, at all.
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@switch said:
teachable perks were a mistake for survivors i dont see a good way of making them unique without buffing them in oblivion.
Im all for making them unique but find a way to not buff cause they dont need any buffs.Teachable perks are ok for killers then?
Don't get me wrong, i would like to see some exclusive perks/passives for each character, but i understand at the same time that it could be unfair cause the killer would guess what's each character's role and guess what perks they are running.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T55ArHjeR1c