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@GodDamn_AngelaGodDamn_Angela said:@Theluckyboi said:
ConsequencesYou become obsessed with one survivor
Each time your obsession throws down a pallet, or vaults a window while you are chasing him you gain 1 token up to a maximum of 2/4/6
each token will grants you a 2% bonus to vaulting windows and
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survivors get a 5% penalty to repairing generators
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Your obsession is not affected by the effects of consequencesSomething here seems out of place.
Hmm. What is it...
My sudden and unexpected will to live? -
The clown lives in 3076.
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@M2FrameM2Fream said:
Ok. I did jump to conclusion and possibly embellish a bit and for that I apologize. Sometimes, to me, it just seems like when people ask for over-the-top killer buffs, you put them down a little harsh.Vietfox said:
@M2Frame Ok i'll send it again.M2Fream said:
1) I don't see any picturesVietfox said:
@M2FreamM2Fream said:Vietfox said:
@M2FreamM2Fream said:
Vietfox, everyone on this forum sees your comments. You have never touched killer in your lifeVietfox said:If it's extremely game breaking for you then you are just bad, sorry. Many other killers can deal with that, including myself.
Btw, that awesome you got is mine. I love it when people assume i don't play as a killer and then realize they were wrong
Ok but I'm not wrong...Vietfox said:
@M2FreamM2Fream said:
Vietfox, everyone on this forum sees your comments. You have never touched killer in your lifeVietfox said:If it's extremely game breaking for you then you are just bad, sorry. Many other killers can deal with that, including myself.
Btw, that awesome you got is mine. I love it when people assume i don't play as a killer and then realize they were wrong
How can't you be wrong? You said i never played as a killer and i proved it with pics lol.
And you know what's funny? Believe or not i'm better as a killer than as a survivor.
2) I find it hard to believe that you are better at killer than survivor when killer is generally harder to play. Any time anyone on this forum asks for a killer buff you jump on them and tell them they just suck. That's not being skilled. That's just stupid.
Rank 1 killer hag main (i play with most killers though), can you see it now?
2 things:
1- if you payed more attention you would see me in different threads asking for buffs for specific killers, the ones who really need it, like leatherface. Feel free to check my comments out in my profile.
2 - it's hard to believe that i do better as a killer than as a survivor becauae APPARENTLY i refuse any kind of killer buff? Well, if we apply the logic wouldn't make sense to ask for buffs (which i do, as i said) for a role which i already dominate and get good results. Like a thread from a few days ago asking to buff the hag, sure, like she needs to be buffed lol.
I jump to this kind of suggestions because people don't realize that it's them, not the killer's fault. I know it's hard to accept but everyone has to face the reality.
Just one last thing, how often do you play as a survivor. I'm asking because in case you didnt know playing as survivor makes you a way better killer.
Of course i agree that certain killers need buffs. Cannible, trapper, wraith, pig, legion.
But I also think killers in general need buffs. Real buffs to counter gen rush. Not band-aid perks. That's all. But do you think gen rush is a problem?
Depending on who's the killer and who is the PLAYER behind that killer. Genrush can happen, but it usually happens to bad killers, and if survivors are good and manage to do 2 or 3 gens in no time your smartest course of action should be to locate 3 gens close to each other and start the 3 gen strat.
Honestly i dont know about the others, but i've never been genrushed the way people say it happens here on the forums, and if survivors genrush me they probably deserve it, most likely it will be my fault. Sadly not everyone can admit when they did wrong.
Some people think i'm 100% antikiller because i disagree with ridiculous suggestions, just that.
When people make suggestions, many of them, come from their desire of getting easy matches, voluntarily or not, and believe me when i say that is not gonna be good for anyone to go from a survivor sided game like back in 2017 to a killer sided game.
I think the correct order to fix this game is by starting with especific things, like killers,and then tweak the mechanics yet to be fixed. -
Not a true DbD forum member yet.Kebek said:@Vietfox said:
Kebek said:@powerbats said:
@Kebek said:
Perfect example of survivor main who wants buff for free to his already more powerfull side. Survivors still rule the game with iron fist IF they are trying to win which most players don't since they either suck or want games longer then 5 min.
Your ideas are what would tottaly ruin any horror aspect or sence of tension that DBD has left so no I hope those never happen. Grind isn't hard to fix it's only matter of time that something will change as it always does.
Also you named quite a lot of things that need SIGNIFICANT changes so no the game has still long way to go to be balanced. On the positive side devs have been lately doing pretty good job with balancing so if they won't do something utterly stupid in following patches it might not take another 3 years to get the game balanced for both sides eaqully.
Perfect example of a killer main not thinking things through since if you buff solo survivors up the level of swf information wise. Now see how that sounds when your own insult gets used against you, it makes you look silly . If you buff solo up to swf levels you can now buff killers up to facing swf level since everyone will be on equal grounds. Also who says people aren't trying to win just because they suck doesn't mean they're not trying or are you always playing to lose as well? Since if we go by your logic if you're new to a game or you just suck you're not trying to win. It also doesn't matter if the player wants the match to go longer or not, if they're trying to win while having fun doing it they're still trying to win. Someone not trying to win would run up to the killer and sacrifice themselves, someone not trying to win would simply dc the moment the match started. Also what you're saying is keep the status quo so that killers remain weak because gasp making them stronger would remove the horror aspect of the game. Do you see how illogical that sound now that' it's worded properly. If a killer is a lot stronger to the point they can take on a swf group or solos buffed to that level then the game becomes much more scary. The grind will take time to fix properly but if you fix the killer power role issue the grind becomes easier to fix. There's a lot that still needs to get done, map reworks, perk changes, less homogenization on both sides etc. Yes the improvements have been nice and they're actually going to do them more frequently in smaller increments which will speed things up and also avoid major bugs.
No it won't take the game 3 years to get it right and the Ad Hominem thrown in was beyond nonsensical and only serves to lower your posts quality.
OP has only posted survivor buffs into his post so yeah he is biased otherwise he would take time to write about other issues as well but he did not care about other ones since they don't concern him.
Also giving survivors aura perks for free wouldn't put them on same level as SWF since main reason why SWF is so powerfull isn't the information it gives but that it allows 4 great survivors to play together and have strategy with communication as bonus to all this. Giving aura perks to survivors would only ruin immersion of the game which is one part of survivor gameplay that I enoy so I'm against it.
Survivors actually aren't playing to win since larger part of my playtime is on killer so I'd known what builds they run and how they play. Many survivors are using builds that aren't 100% meta and are far more alturistic then they should be if winning is their goal. Main reason why killers experience ingame isn't horrific is because survivors most of all play for fun. If every single survivor decided that only winning is what they want they would dominate every game that doesn't have god nurse in it.
Having fun while winning isn't the same as going straight for the win only with nothing else in mind. You can play fun builds with which you can win but you could win more with more meta builds that are far more powefull. Meaning that survivors want fun which 5 min games can't give them since in such sort amount of time nobody has fun unless having fun is ruining killer's fun.
I have no idea where did you find that I want killers to remain weak. What I actually want is not to make all killer stronger but to make games longer which would actually make many killers stronger in the process. Many killers have optimal power level but games last far too short if survivors rush gens. So we need either to give survivors other objectives to work towards or give killers more tools to stall and protlong the game.
The 3 years part was exaggeration based on the amount of time fixing DBD takes since whenever devs do something right they get backlash from survivors even when changes weren't as drastical as what killer had to endure several times. (like when for some reason timing on pallets and flaslight was removed, great change indeed)
@Kebek
You must be new here otherwise you'd know 80% of Nickenzies suggestions favour the killer.
And if you already knew that then i guess that 2 suggestions which benefit the survivors out of 8 are enough to be survivor biased.I don't really remeber all the posts I've read or people who posted them since unlike many DBD players I don't keep lists of people and what they did / didn't.
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@GodDamn_AngelaGodDamn_Angela said:@Vietfox said:
ALWAYS, solo or swf, doesnt matter.
My reasons are:
Most killers run hexes and/or noed
Most survivors dont give a damn about totems
Small game allows me to find totems way faster. The less time i spend in the match the higher the chances i got to survive.
And that little extra that helps you against the trapper and the hag, but looking for totems with the hag is a bit of a pain. Notifications everywhere!That's good to hear. I'm still learning a lot about totem spawns and junk but I see people say that every just "memorize where the totems spawn" so I thought I was gimping myself with Small Game but I really like being able to find them quickly or keeping note of nearby totems while in chases or doing gens.
Yeah after some time you know where to look for totems, but if totems are for instance in tiny espaces which require you to go around the wall and stuff then small games saves you a lot of time, you just need to look everywhere and wait for the notification. -
@KebekKebek said:@powerbats said:
@Kebek said:
Perfect example of survivor main who wants buff for free to his already more powerfull side. Survivors still rule the game with iron fist IF they are trying to win which most players don't since they either suck or want games longer then 5 min.Your ideas are what would tottaly ruin any horror aspect or sence of tension that DBD has left so no I hope those never happen. Grind isn't hard to fix it's only matter of time that something will change as it always does.
Also you named quite a lot of things that need SIGNIFICANT changes so no the game has still long way to go to be balanced. On the positive side devs have been lately doing pretty good job with balancing so if they won't do something utterly stupid in following patches it might not take another 3 years to get the game balanced for both sides eaqully.
Perfect example of a killer main not thinking things through since if you buff solo survivors up the level of swf information wise. Now see how that sounds when your own insult gets used against you, it makes you look silly . If you buff solo up to swf levels you can now buff killers up to facing swf level since everyone will be on equal grounds.
Also who says people aren't trying to win just because they suck doesn't mean they're not trying or are you always playing to lose as well? Since if we go by your logic if you're new to a game or you just suck you're not trying to win.
It also doesn't matter if the player wants the match to go longer or not, if they're trying to win while having fun doing it they're still trying to win. Someone not trying to win would run up to the killer and sacrifice themselves, someone not trying to win would simply dc the moment the match started.
Also what you're saying is keep the status quo so that killers remain weak because gasp making them stronger would remove the horror aspect of the game. Do you see how illogical that sound now that' it's worded properly.
If a killer is a lot stronger to the point they can take on a swf group or solos buffed to that level then the game becomes much more scary. The grind will take time to fix properly but if you fix the killer power role issue the grind becomes easier to fix.
There's a lot that still needs to get done, map reworks, perk changes, less homogenization on both sides etc. Yes the improvements have been nice and they're actually going to do them more frequently in smaller increments which will speed things up and also avoid major bugs.
No it won't take the game 3 years to get it right and the Ad Hominem thrown in was beyond nonsensical and only serves to lower your posts quality.
OP has only posted survivor buffs into his post so yeah he is biased otherwise he would take time to write about other issues as well but he did not care about other ones since they don't concern him.
Also giving survivors aura perks for free wouldn't put them on same level as SWF since main reason why SWF is so powerfull isn't the information it gives but that it allows 4 great survivors to play together and have strategy with communication as bonus to all this. Giving aura perks to survivors would only ruin immersion of the game which is one part of survivor gameplay that I enoy so I'm against it.Survivors actually aren't playing to win since larger part of my playtime is on killer so I'd known what builds they run and how they play. Many survivors are using builds that aren't 100% meta and are far more alturistic then they should be if winning is their goal. Main reason why killers experience ingame isn't horrific is because survivors most of all play for fun. If every single survivor decided that only winning is what they want they would dominate every game that doesn't have god nurse in it.
Having fun while winning isn't the same as going straight for the win only with nothing else in mind. You can play fun builds with which you can win but you could win more with more meta builds that are far more powefull. Meaning that survivors want fun which 5 min games can't give them since in such sort amount of time nobody has fun unless having fun is ruining killer's fun.
I have no idea where did you find that I want killers to remain weak. What I actually want is not to make all killer stronger but to make games longer which would actually make many killers stronger in the process. Many killers have optimal power level but games last far too short if survivors rush gens. So we need either to give survivors other objectives to work towards or give killers more tools to stall and protlong the game.
The 3 years part was exaggeration based on the amount of time fixing DBD takes since whenever devs do something right they get backlash from survivors even when changes weren't as drastical as what killer had to endure several times. (like when for some reason timing on pallets and flaslight was removed, great change indeed)
You must be new here otherwise you'd know 80% of Nickenzies suggestions favour the killer.
And if you already knew that then i guess that 2 suggestions which benefit the survivors out of 8 are enough to be survivor biased. -
@GodDamn_AngelaGodDamn_Angela said:@Vietfox said:
Noed is annoying, but if it bothers you so much then do what i did: run small game, get rid of all 5 totems asap and do gens. I run small game either if i'm playing solo or with friends because almost all killers run hex perks and/or noed.
I think small game is a must also when playing solo since most survivors don't give a **** about totems.You run Small Game sometimes? I thought I was the only one on the forums who did. lol
ALWAYS, solo or swf, doesnt matter.
My reasons are:
Most killers run hexes and/or noed
Most survivors dont give a damn about totems
Small game allows me to find totems way faster. The less time i spend in the match the higher the chances i got to survive.
And that little extra that helps you against the trapper and the hag, but looking for totems with the hag is a bit of a pain. Notifications everywhere! -
For killers: probably their next target will be deja vu
For survivors: i'm quite satisfied right now, needs some improvents, that's all. Bbq and noed wont determine my satisfaction with the game because i'm ok with both perks.
Btw michiko i see a problem with this survey. It's written like if killers only played as a killer and same for survivors. There are many people who play both and me, for instance, despite the fact that i play a bit more as a survivor than as a killer i would like to see buffs on some killer like leatherface more than getting rid of killer perks. -
Easy question, i always go for the prick who performs unsafe unhooks.
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@RaptorrotasRaptorrotas said:@Vietfox said:
Tsulan said:
Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
Tsulan said:
Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:Let's introduce a new item for survivors called: The Dildo
Contains 4 charges at base. Can only be used near other survivors or the killer. When used, you slide it inside the survivor or killer's ass, stunning them for 5 minutes.
When you use the last charge, the Dildo gets lodged in the fellow player's poothole, insta-mori'ing them.
That would traumatize a huge part of our playerbase. Since most are 12 years old.
It's a horror game, they can take it or leave it
Can't Imagine what would happen in countries where they censor nipples to "protect" our youth.
@Tsulan
Thank god we live in Europe and no one censors no ######### !Germany is sadly more prone to banning stuff instead of censoeing it. But theres some treasures like team fortress 2's hamburger \trycycle gore 😀
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@PoweasPoweas said:@Pavilions said:
@Vietfox said:
Poweas said:@Vietfox said:
1 - i think i face a single OOO user per month.
Btw, so funny to call builds "toxic" when those perks are intended game features. Should i call iridescent heads toxic as well?
2 - if you are a great player they will waste your time? Oookay i guess?
3 - if your aim is good survivors will be downed before you need to reload, promise.
4 - wut? Delayed swing just because "screw you killers"? Lol, i don't think so. You can either hit quickly within a short range or lunge.
5 - yeah it's called "hiding"
Anyway, once you get better you'll see they are not a big deal.
If he keeps this mindset of 'oh buff killers because I can't be bothered to git gud.' then he won't get better
@Poweas
Indeed. I've said it many times, it's true that some killers kinda desperately need buffs, like leatherface, and i will always support it if it's really needed. But then sometimes you find complaints about how killers are weak IN GENERAL, when the real issue is to not have enough experience.What are you talking about the game was different before the latest update most of the killers were fine but now everything is changed. I use to be rank 2 now I can't even reach 5. One of my friends is a newbie and plays survivor all the time he used to be around rank 8 now he is rank 1 and the way he plays didn't change but he mentioned that playing as a survivor is easier now. don't ignore the fact that the latest update made changed and by the way I'm not a newbie killer.
you're just as bad as Ochido.
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We gotta go full toxic i guess.The_Crusader said:
What is it with all these toxic people with Feng avatars?Vietfox said:
Keep up the good work @SenzuDuck lol, i'm even jealousscorpio said:You are probably the most annoying "killer main" on this forum.
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@TsulanTsulan said:
Can't Imagine what would happen in countries where they censor nipples to "protect" our youth.Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
It's a horror game, they can take it or leave itTsulan said:
That would traumatize a huge part of our playerbase. Since most are 12 years old.Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:Let's introduce a new item for survivors called: The Dildo
Contains 4 charges at base. Can only be used near other survivors or the killer. When used, you slide it inside the survivor or killer's ass, stunning them for 5 minutes.
When you use the last charge, the Dildo gets lodged in the fellow player's poothole, insta-mori'ing them.
Thank god we live in Europe and no one censors no ######### ! -
World started to go to hell whem they released DbD and this community gathered.@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:Mori's are toxic now?
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I think you need to rework it or think something different. While not the same this suggestion reminds me a bit of thanatophobia, and now that i say it it would be kinda op to combine both of them.
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Keep up the good work @SenzuDuck lol, i'm even jealousscorpio said:You are probably the most annoying "killer main" on this forum.
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@scorpioscorpio said:@Vietfox said:
DexyIV said:Love how Dstrike still isn't nerfed. Survivors act like it isn't a big deal to have a crazy perk like this until they play killer and work your ass off to kill three annoying SWF survivors, and then you have to deal with the fourth that has a free reset. Dunno how that could be seen as entitlement when the perk is blatantly overpowered with absolutely no downsides and no action taken by the developers.
- 40% of my playtime i spend it on playing as a killer.
- 4DS is rare as hell
Last but not least, if DS was truly op i would use it all the time, believe me.
But why run a 1 time use perk, which can be used at the beginning and get stuck with 3 perks for the rest of the match?
My unpopular opinion is that resilience is a better perk than DS, yeah, you heard that right.
Killers run Ruin all the time, it's the same principle, except Ruin has a counter and DS is OP and broken. I've definitely gone against 3-4 survivors with DS, and 2 is very common. At least one survivor has it 95% of matches I play. And it isn't even about if there is multiple in a game. There being one in a game is enough to screw things up. I don't understand why everyone is like "stop whining and deal with it" rather than express displeasure so BHVR sees it is important to change it. Why exactly are we not allowed to complain about an OP perk? Why is that a bad thing? Why is the response "get over it" rather than "you're right, that perk sucks" or "I don't agree but I understand why you feel that way." This community is so [BAD WORD] toxic it's disgusting.
Forgot to take the pill?
Oh yeah, community is toxic because they express different points of view in a polite way.
You are allowed to complain, just as much as i'm allowed to express. You can check my comments and read everything i've said, you won't get anything else from me because your presentation was pretty bad tbh. 2/10
Well just one think, there are killers who can deal with DS, why can't you?
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And how would killers lose their tokens? Because this plus the speed vault from bamboozle...
I honestly dont see any relation between vaulting and the repair gen speed penalty. And you want to apply that to all survivors? Right lol. -
@GodDamn_AngelaGodDamn_Angela said:While I like the premise, since tunneling is unfun for survivors, this wouldn't really change how game-changing taking out the first Survivor is. This is a step in the right direction though I think.
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@Bravo0413Bravo0413 said:
I'm assuming OP is referring too all the benefits.... so gen regressing, action and speed increase etc....Vietfox said:I like anything that promotes not tunneling so everyone gets to play, just a couple of questions.
The gen regression is that during 2 minutes every gen u kick regress twice as fast?
What do you mean by killer gets everything for minute and a half?
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Personally i think i would never run it, maybe people who stays hidden the whole time though.
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Idk, maybe it's just that i would like players to play smart instead of providing everything. The way the game is right now i do quite well when playing solo, i don't understand why should be buffed.Nickenzie said:
I'd have to disagree and say Kindred is very needed as baseline if you wanna add some closure between SWF and solo Q survivors. A SWF team can communicate where the killer is at and who is gonna perform the save, ya know? Kindred does the exact same thing. Whoever is closest to the hook goes for the save and if the closest survivor is hesitant for the save, the killer is likely camping so rush the generators ASAP. Of course my ideas can be tweaked, perhaps we can only have kindred level 2 be baseline so it doesn't ruin the horror aspect of the game too much.Vietfox said:Ok i kinda read it.
If i could decide i wouldnt give kindred to solo survivors. Same way i've said many times that killers shouldn't be equally viable (please don't burn me) BUT VIABLE because i see them as different kind of difficulties so should be the same for survivors. You tryhard survivor? Play solo with the same features.
If any offering needs to be change is BNP, it's a joke that its price is still 7K. They should buff it, reduce the cost or simply remove it, i don't care.
Btw killer mains, if you see survivors using party streamers dont camp them right off the bat please, those points are for you as well.
This time you can't say i'm biased because this goes against me (theorically)
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@GodDamn_AngelaGodDamn_Angela said:Survivor vs Survivor perks?
Right, let's buff survivor's griefing and trolling ability. Good idea.
Because sandbagging your own teammates wasn't enough.
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Can you guys stop with this killer/survivor cult? People are the ones who play this game, they play both roles and guess what, there are jerks everywhere.@Theluckyboi said:Killers try to have a good match, you teabag and point endlessly
Killers bring new builds for a fun match, you bring decisive and sprint burst
Killers let you have the hatch, you complain about them wanting 4kYou complain about moris mate? [BAD WORD] off
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Well, there's no way for the killer to see party streamers till it shows up...
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@Unnamed_FreakUnnamed_Freak said:@Vietfox said:
Unnamed_Freak said:@Vietfox said:
Unnamed_Freak said:
@Vietfox said: Unnamed_Freak said:
My only problem with Adrenaline is that it wakes you up, when wake up is not even a healing action. Freddy is already a weak killer but yet the devs made another counter to him. @Unnamed_Freak
I understand, but perk itself has important cons, like to play with 3 perks for almost the whole match. Any killer who knows how to create pressure will make the match to take longer, increasing the chances of killing survivors. For killers with less map pressure i use pop goes the weasel, it's an amazing perk. So you could try that on Freddy (if you havent yet) I particularly don't have issues with Adrenaline or creating pressure, I was just stating that. Unless I am playing Legion, they cannot create pressure at all. And Pop Goes The Weasel should work with a token system. So it can work on slow killers like Huntress, Hag and Legion. @Unnamed_Freak
Idk, i find pop goes the weasel quite strong already. Mayne increase the timer? But i swear, that perk has given me 4K without a single gen done at rank 1 ON LEATHERFACE (sometimes using good addons like bests marks, grease, etc and sometimes with crappy addons)
Edit: quite a few times
Pop Goes The Weasel is not a bad perk, the problem is that the timer is too short for normal killers or slow killers to check all gens.
But it's really good on all fast killers and probably on race car Wraith.
@Unnamed_Freak
I personally do the opposit thing, fast killers apply more pressure already than slow ones, so i try to balance it.
If you mix it with the 3 gens strat you dont really need to go so far.3 gen strat with Doc running Pop Goes The Weasel is a disconnect party.
Yeah some do, it's hilarious. I don't understand how rank 1 people keep falling for that. -
Every time i read your name i see "A Catholic Killer"
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@Unnamed_FreakUnnamed_Freak said:@Vietfox said:
Unnamed_Freak said:@Vietfox said:
Unnamed_Freak said:
My only problem with Adrenaline is that it wakes you up, when wake up is not even a healing action. Freddy is already a weak killer but yet the devs made another counter to him. @Unnamed_Freak
I understand, but perk itself has important cons, like to play with 3 perks for almost the whole match. Any killer who knows how to create pressure will make the match to take longer, increasing the chances of killing survivors.
For killers with less map pressure i use pop goes the weasel, it's an amazing perk. So you could try that on Freddy (if you havent yet)
I particularly don't have issues with Adrenaline or creating pressure, I was just stating that. Unless I am playing Legion, they cannot create pressure at all.
And Pop Goes The Weasel should work with a token system. So it can work on slow killers like Huntress, Hag and Legion.
@Unnamed_Freak
Idk, i find pop goes the weasel quite strong already. Mayne increase the timer? But i swear, that perk has given me 4K without a single gen done at rank 1 ON LEATHERFACE (sometimes using good addons like bests marks, grease, etc and sometimes with crappy addons)
Edit: quite a few timesPop Goes The Weasel is not a bad perk, the problem is that the timer is too short for normal killers or slow killers to check all gens.
But it's really good on all fast killers and probably on race car Wraith.
I personally do the opposit thing, fast killers apply more pressure already than slow ones, so i try to balance it.
If you mix it with the 3 gens strat you dont really need to go so far. -
Cause you derank@Master said:I still get my lobbies really fast
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@Unnamed_FreakUnnamed_Freak said:@Vietfox said:
Unnamed_Freak said:My only problem with Adrenaline is that it wakes you up, when wake up is not even a healing action.
Freddy is already a weak killer but yet the devs made another counter to him.
@Unnamed_Freak
I understand, but perk itself has important cons, like to play with 3 perks for almost the whole match. Any killer who knows how to create pressure will make the match to take longer, increasing the chances of killing survivors.
For killers with less map pressure i use pop goes the weasel, it's an amazing perk. So you could try that on Freddy (if you havent yet)I particularly don't have issues with Adrenaline or creating pressure, I was just stating that. Unless I am playing Legion, they cannot create pressure at all.
And Pop Goes The Weasel should work with a token system. So it can work on slow killers like Huntress, Hag and Legion.
Idk, i find pop goes the weasel quite strong already. Mayne increase the timer? But i swear, that perk has given me 4K without a single gen done at rank 1 ON LEATHERFACE (sometimes using good addons like bests marks, grease, etc and sometimes with crappy addons)
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@GodDamn_AngelaGodDamn_Angela said:@Vietfox said:
I know it's stupid and dont know if happens the same to anyone else but kinda bothers me when adrenaline kicks in and i'm not injured lol.
I see you MAYBE are trying to justify the use of NOED, just don't. Feel free to run any perk without being bothered by others opinions, they are game features meant to be used.
I run noed with about 3 killers or so, especially the slowest ones. Usually running noed on one shot killers is stupid, but i do use it on Leatherface. Not because of the exposed status, but because of the speed.
If survivors manage to complete the 5 gens you get the speed boost from noed, plus the speed from beasts marks addon and the speed from Play with your food (if you have it). Use the chainsaw with all that speed, you'll fly
Oh no I'm not justifying the use of NOED. I use what I want, and I don't really see a need to explain to anyone why I do. Even if people think it is a waste.
I was saying I use it on some Killers because its the only end game perk I get any use out of. Mainly for the speed increase. All the totems are usually destroyed way before the end of the trial though. lol :'(
I mainly only use it though when I play Full-Hex Spirit and it can be fun on the Hag. I only really use those two and the Clown and I have never, ever, felt a need or want to put it on the Clown lol.
Noed is a win win for the killer imo.
They dont cleanse totems? Free instadowns
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@Unnamed_FreakUnnamed_Freak said:My only problem with Adrenaline is that it wakes you up, when wake up is not even a healing action.
Freddy is already a weak killer but yet the devs made another counter to him.
I understand, but perk itself has important cons, like to play with 3 perks for almost the whole match. Any killer who knows how to create pressure will make the match to take longer, increasing the chances of killing survivors.
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@GodDamn_AngelaGodDamn_Angela said:@Vietfox said:
@GodDamn_Angela said:Is it? I don't think DS is broken, at all, but I don't think Adrenaline is either. It's my fault if I let them get away just because of Adrenaline.
Finally some common sense. It's weird because i almost never use DS and here i am defending DS everywhere in the forum, simply because i don't get what's the big deal with that perk. I've run it and i've had to face it as well.
One time use perks and endgame perks are a NO NO for me because i feel capped, the only one i like and use from time to time is Adrenaline, but Iron Will seems to work better for me.
As i said in another thread, i find Resilience stronger than DS.I haven't even leveled Laurie because I have no interest in DS. I don't like one use or Endgame perks. And Adrenaline is both. I run NOED on some Killers, but that's literally the only one I use at all. I like Perks that I can get more use out of throughout the trial.
Its a personal choice and I understand other people like end game perks. Adrenaline is just not a perk I want to use because like 60% of the time its not needed to, even slightly, help me survive. Or I'm already dead. The other 40% is mostly times it could help me survive but isn't necessarily needed.
Adrenaline only activates once, at the end of the Trial, so it needs to be "strong".
I know it's stupid and dont know if happens the same to anyone else but kinda bothers me when adrenaline kicks in and i'm not injured lol.
I see you MAYBE are trying to justify the use of NOED, just don't. Feel free to run any perk without being bothered by others opinions, they are game features meant to be used.
I run noed with about 3 killers or so, especially the slowest ones. Usually running noed on one shot killers is stupid, but i do use it on Leatherface. Not because of the exposed status, but because of the speed.
If survivors manage to complete the 5 gens you get the speed boost from noed, plus the speed from beasts marks addon and the speed from Play with your food (if you have it). Use the chainsaw with all that speed, you'll fly
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@akbays35 yeah i read again this thread when i wasnt drunk anymore and realized i interrupted a conversation between 2 forum members, sorryakbays35 said:@Vietfox said:
akbays35 said:yeah my steam account is uh, not available so I had to buy it on console to get my dbd fix
I miss all my skins and characters and perks right now. I just have Nea and Meg's unlockables@akbays35 Tell me you are on ps4 please, my name is Vietfox87.
I'll be able to play after NYEI play on xbox bro, sorry.
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@M2Frame Ok i'll send it again.M2Fream said:
1) I don't see any picturesVietfox said:
@M2FreamM2Fream said:Vietfox said:
@M2FreamM2Fream said:
Vietfox, everyone on this forum sees your comments. You have never touched killer in your lifeVietfox said:If it's extremely game breaking for you then you are just bad, sorry. Many other killers can deal with that, including myself.
Btw, that awesome you got is mine. I love it when people assume i don't play as a killer and then realize they were wrong
Ok but I'm not wrong...Vietfox said:
@M2FreamM2Fream said:
Vietfox, everyone on this forum sees your comments. You have never touched killer in your lifeVietfox said:If it's extremely game breaking for you then you are just bad, sorry. Many other killers can deal with that, including myself.
Btw, that awesome you got is mine. I love it when people assume i don't play as a killer and then realize they were wrong
How can't you be wrong? You said i never played as a killer and i proved it with pics lol.
And you know what's funny? Believe or not i'm better as a killer than as a survivor.
2) I find it hard to believe that you are better at killer than survivor when killer is generally harder to play. Any time anyone on this forum asks for a killer buff you jump on them and tell them they just suck. That's not being skilled. That's just stupid.
Rank 1 killer hag main (i play with most killers though), can you see it now?
2 things:
1- if you payed more attention you would see me in different threads asking for buffs for specific killers, the ones who really need it, like leatherface. Feel free to check my comments out in my profile.
2 - it's hard to believe that i do better as a killer than as a survivor becauae APPARENTLY i refuse any kind of killer buff? Well, if we apply the logic wouldn't make sense to ask for buffs (which i do, as i said) for a role which i already dominate and get good results. Like a thread from a few days ago asking to buff the hag, sure, like she needs to be buffed lol.
I jump to this kind of suggestions because people don't realize that it's them, not the killer's fault. I know it's hard to accept but everyone has to face the reality.
Just one last thing, how often do you play as a survivor. I'm asking because in case you didnt know playing as survivor makes you a way better killer. -
I like anything that promotes not tunneling so everyone gets to play, just a couple of questions.
The gen regression is that during 2 minutes every gen u kick regress twice as fast?
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@LarczLarcz said:Ds+ adrenalin is often when i play killer.From spirit dlc i got always rancor with me on every killer.
Thanks for providing another counter. People need to understand that in a game based on perks and builds NO ONE is suposed to counter everything with perks.
Create your build around your main weaknesses/needs and use the skills to deal with the rest.
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Finally some common sense. It's weird because i almost never use DS and here i am defending DS everywhere in the forum, simply because i don't get what's the big deal with that perk. I've run it and i've had to face it as well.@GodDamn_Angela said:Is it? I don't think DS is broken, at all, but I don't think Adrenaline is either. It's my fault if I let them get away just because of Adrenaline.
One time use perks and endgame perks are a NO NO for me because i feel capped, the only one i like and use from time to time is Adrenaline, but Iron Will seems to work better for me.
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@TsulanTsulan said:
I never tried to record a match. But I have a friend who streams. So I'll ask him for a link, next time we play together.Vietfox said:
@TsulanTsulan said:
But I'm playing almost only survivor now.Vietfox said:
Oh dear but you are biased, at least way more than beforeTsulan said:
People tell me that I'm biased, because I like a challenge.Vietfox said:
@EntityDispleasedEntityDispleased said:"Can we remove one of the only two ways that make this killer barely viable at all? I don't care if that makes him absolutely worthless and weak, I just want easier games."
I like you so i'm gonna respectfully ask you this. Don't you like the challenge?
I still love you @Tsulan ,no worries
I would love to see you playing as survivor. Please record a match and send it to me.
This is me:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uUbl9x-WD3I
Wait up, i just noticed something weird... What are seeing my eyes?? Tsulan playing DbD with friends?? Heresy!!
The antiSWF killer club which you belong to will kick you!! That's unacceptable! -
@XxAtomicAlfiexX dangerous rank for a legit rank 14/15 killer/survivor, lots of derankers there.XxAtomicAlfiexX said:@Vietfox said:
XxAtomicAlfiexX said:@Vietfox said:
XxAtomicAlfiexX said:
@Dead_by_David said: @XxAtomicAlfiexX This is exactly right! More better players equals more better games! I am still learning killer and people on this forum were helpful so I have had some fun games! @Vietfox I had issues with this as well, people will purposely kill you then send a message complaining that they died! i can give you some tips on killer if you want but i would have to know who you main. @XxAtomicAlfiexX
I play survivor/killer 60/40, and honestly i do better as a killer than as a survivor for some reason.
Edit: just noticed the reply was for the other one.
i used to be a better killer then survivor but i can no longer be bothered to put up with all the toxic survivors and swf. playing killer has been ruined for me and its sad because i preferred to play killer.
@XxAtomicAlfiexX
I know it sounds weird but i do like to face flashlight disco spammer swf.
Do i get extremely bullied? Sometimes, but when i play as a killer i just got 2 gears: move and hit, no feelings,and works pretty well. Most of the times i get 3 or 4K. Swf usually give more bps too.i dont like swf because i end up playing against people way out of my league being purple and red rank when my max rank was rank 9 and im rank 14 right now.
I once played with a couple of friends who just tried DbD for the first time, so they were rank 20 and i was 10 because of the reset. I equipped plunderers and ace in the hole thinking that would be like a walk around the park and also because i didnt want to go hard on the killer.
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@XxAtomicAlfiexXXxAtomicAlfiexX said:@Vietfox said:
XxAtomicAlfiexX said:@Dead_by_David said:
@XxAtomicAlfiexX This is exactly right! More better players equals more better games! I am still learning killer and people on this forum were helpful so I have had some fun games!
@Vietfox I had issues with this as well, people will purposely kill you then send a message complaining that they died!
i can give you some tips on killer if you want but i would have to know who you main.
@XxAtomicAlfiexX
I play survivor/killer 60/40, and honestly i do better as a killer than as a survivor for some reason.
Edit: just noticed the reply was for the other one.i used to be a better killer then survivor but i can no longer be bothered to put up with all the toxic survivors and swf. playing killer has been ruined for me and its sad because i preferred to play killer.
I know it sounds weird but i do like to face flashlight disco spammer swf.
Do i get extremely bullied? Sometimes, but when i play as a killer i just got 2 gears: move and hit, no feelings,and works pretty well. Most of the times i get 3 or 4K. Swf usually give more bps too. -
There will be always someone better than us @Mc_Harty lol.Mc_Harty said:@Vietfox said:
@Mc_Harty
The main reason why i almost never watch youtubers or streamers is because ruins the part of discovering the game. I'm not saying i've never done it, but just for a few minutes when i'm too tired to play but still want to watch something.
Sure you can get good advises and stuff but i kinda feel i learn more if i learn it by myself.I'm not a perfect killer/survivor
One of the moments when i enjoy a match the most is when i face a killer (especially not a top one) who doesn't camp nor tunnel and still obliterate us. I really enjoy seeing people playing well, i feel like i gotta pm that killer and tell her/him is awesome. -
One good advise i can give you is this: play both roles.Dead_by_David said:@XxAtomicAlfiexX I play a lot of Spirit and Amanda because I like the stealthy jumpscare Gameplay!
@Vietfox I am a great survivor and basic killer xD
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@M2FreamM2Fream said:Vietfox said:
@M2FreamM2Fream said:
Vietfox, everyone on this forum sees your comments. You have never touched killer in your lifeVietfox said:If it's extremely game breaking for you then you are just bad, sorry. Many other killers can deal with that, including myself.
Btw, that awesome you got is mine. I love it when people assume i don't play as a killer and then realize they were wrong
Ok but I'm not wrong...Vietfox said:
@M2FreamM2Fream said:
Vietfox, everyone on this forum sees your comments. You have never touched killer in your lifeVietfox said:If it's extremely game breaking for you then you are just bad, sorry. Many other killers can deal with that, including myself.
Btw, that awesome you got is mine. I love it when people assume i don't play as a killer and then realize they were wrong
How can't you be wrong? You said i never played as a killer and i proved it with pics lol.
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@Mc_HartyMc_Harty said:@Vietfox said:
@Unnamed_Freak
Lol that's total BS, and that guy still has followers?Honestly, I doubt people wouldn't mind so much about his ######### tier list if he didn't always have this I'm right, your wrong attitude. It's [BAD WORD] infuriating. Main reason I've stopped watching him a year ago.
Now I watch Fungoose.
The main reason why i almost never watch youtubers or streamers is because ruins the part of discovering the game. I'm not saying i've never done it, but just for a few minutes when i'm too tired to play but still want to watch something.
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@Unnamed_FreakUnnamed_Freak said:@Vietfox said:
Unnamed_Freak said:@Vietfox said:
Unnamed_Freak said:
@Vietfox said: I havent watched any single Monto's video but i heard he said the hag was a low tier killer so he probably sucks at DbD. Just my humble opinion. I think you confused him with TydeTime. He is the one that claimed that Hag is low tier. @Unnamed_Freak
Whoops my bad, sorry Monto.
I care little about streamers that's why i got confused.
It's alright, even though Monto is a youtuber.
TydeTime claims that LeatherFace is mid tier, so you can see that he's not very good.
@Unnamed_Freak
Lol that's total BS, and that guy still has followers?Yup. He got 100,000 subscribers on YouTube, I don't know about his Twitch, surprisingly there's people that agree with him.
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Better lose the momentum at the very beginning than when gates are about to be open.The_Crusader said:
Eating the DS early is a great way to put yourself in a bad position, lose momentun, or give the survivors more gen time.White_Owl said:It's a standoff only because you refused to eat the DS. I can understand the motivation, but imo you can't complain about this situation if it's on you.
As a killer you should always try to get rid of DS in the early game, since it becomes stronger toward the end of the match. It's not always possible, but ending in such situations is most of the time a killer's misplay.
Also the survivor was smart and positioned himself so the killer couldn't avoid DS, can't say he "doesn't deserve it" because he clearly had a precise strategy in mind.
In any case you get 2500 by not doing anything for a couple minutes. At that point you just go eat a sandwich, win-win for you.
It's not worth it. That's why many ignore the obsession if possible.
In fact that we're all aggressively attacking the middle generator for ages. All 4 of them. So I didn't have the time to eat the stun. Would have given them the gen and then allowed them to go split up.
Imo ignoring the obsession is a mistake. If by any chance you guys are by the end of the match and finally go hook the DS user he/she could use DS, run,perform rescues, etc.
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@Unnamed_FreakUnnamed_Freak said:@Vietfox said:
Unnamed_Freak said:@Vietfox said:
I havent watched any single Monto's video but i heard he said the hag was a low tier killer so he probably sucks at DbD. Just my humble opinion.
I think you confused him with TydeTime. He is the one that claimed that Hag is low tier.
@Unnamed_Freak
Whoops my bad, sorry Monto.
I care little about streamers that's why i got confused.It's alright, even though Monto is a youtuber.
TydeTime claims that LeatherFace is mid tier, so you can see that he's not very good.
Lol that's total BS, and that guy still has followers? -
Good speech @White_Owl but this part in particular needs to be framed and be seen by everyone.White_Owl said:As a killer you should always try to get rid of DS in the early game, since it becomes stronger toward the end of the match.
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@Unnamed_FreakUnnamed_Freak said:@Vietfox said:
I havent watched any single Monto's video but i heard he said the hag was a low tier killer so he probably sucks at DbD. Just my humble opinion.I think you confused him with TydeTime. He is the one that claimed that Hag is low tier.
Whoops my bad, sorry Monto.
I care little about streamers that's why i got confused.