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Devs: more "fight other survs" and "fight back" perks

BACKSTABBER BACKSTABBER
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We really need more active gameplays for survs than just passive hidding and running, time to strike back the killer and even your teammates (steal items, punch in the face, etc...) otherwise game is becoming too monotonous

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  • antgnstea antgnstea
    Ohh yeah I would love to punch some of my teammates. 
    Or kick killer while on the hook. 
  • BACKSTABBER BACKSTABBER

    @antgnstea said:
    Ohh yeah I would love to punch some of my teammates. 
    Or kick killer while on the hook. 

    yup buddy, is a competition to survive, not always is gonna be a collaboration

  • Freudentrauma Freudentrauma

    Right. Because this game won't get more frustrating or harder to balance, if Devs would have to consider the aspect of survivor vs. survivor as well.

  • TAG TAG
    antgnstea said:
    Or kick killer while on the hook. 
    There's an idea.  Maybe a Perk that stuns the Killer when they hook a Survivor with said perk, allowing a nearby Survivor to make a fast save (not sure if it would be an issue when combined with Borrowed Time)?
  • GodDamn_Angela GodDamn_Angela

    Survivor vs Survivor perks?

    Right, let's buff survivor's griefing and trolling ability. Good idea.

  • Vietfox Vietfox
    GodDamn_Angela said:

    Survivor vs Survivor perks?

    Right, let's buff survivor's griefing and trolling ability. Good idea.

    @GodDamn_Angela
    Because sandbagging your own teammates wasn't enough. :+1:
  • BACKSTABBER BACKSTABBER

    @GodDamn_Angela said:
    Survivor vs Survivor perks?

    Right, let's buff survivor's griefing and trolling ability. Good idea.

    thanks

  • scorpio scorpio

    gr8 b8 m8

  • scorpio scorpio

    But really I wish survivors did have another objective besides gens. Not hitting each other/the killer but just something else to do to prolong games a bit/add more chases and mind games and gameplay/give survivors more BP and pipping ability.

  • Tsulan Tsulan
    Vietfox said:
    GodDamn_Angela said:

    Survivor vs Survivor perks?

    Right, let's buff survivor's griefing and trolling ability. Good idea.

    @GodDamn_Angela
    Because sandbagging your own teammates wasn't enough. :+1:
    What could possibly go wrong?!
  • DocFabron DocFabron
    Let's introduce a new item for survivors called: The Dildo

    Contains 4 charges at base. Can only be used near other survivors or the killer. When used, you slide it inside the survivor or killer's ass, stunning them for 5 minutes.

    When you use the last charge, the Dildo gets lodged in the fellow player's poothole, insta-mori'ing them.
  • Tsulan Tsulan
    Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
    Let's introduce a new item for survivors called: The Dildo

    Contains 4 charges at base. Can only be used near other survivors or the killer. When used, you slide it inside the survivor or killer's ass, stunning them for 5 minutes.

    When you use the last charge, the Dildo gets lodged in the fellow player's poothole, insta-mori'ing them.
    That would traumatize a huge part of our playerbase. Since most are 12 years old.
  • DocFabron DocFabron
    Tsulan said:
    Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
    Let's introduce a new item for survivors called: The Dildo

    Contains 4 charges at base. Can only be used near other survivors or the killer. When used, you slide it inside the survivor or killer's ass, stunning them for 5 minutes.

    When you use the last charge, the Dildo gets lodged in the fellow player's poothole, insta-mori'ing them.
    That would traumatize a huge part of our playerbase. Since most are 12 years old.
    It's a horror game, they can take it or leave it ;)
  • Tsulan Tsulan
    Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
    Tsulan said:
    Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
    Let's introduce a new item for survivors called: The Dildo

    Contains 4 charges at base. Can only be used near other survivors or the killer. When used, you slide it inside the survivor or killer's ass, stunning them for 5 minutes.

    When you use the last charge, the Dildo gets lodged in the fellow player's poothole, insta-mori'ing them.
    That would traumatize a huge part of our playerbase. Since most are 12 years old.
    It's a horror game, they can take it or leave it ;)
    Can't Imagine what would happen in countries where they censor nipples to "protect" our youth. 
  • Vietfox Vietfox
    Tsulan said:
    Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
    Tsulan said:
    Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
    Let's introduce a new item for survivors called: The Dildo

    Contains 4 charges at base. Can only be used near other survivors or the killer. When used, you slide it inside the survivor or killer's ass, stunning them for 5 minutes.

    When you use the last charge, the Dildo gets lodged in the fellow player's poothole, insta-mori'ing them.
    That would traumatize a huge part of our playerbase. Since most are 12 years old.
    It's a horror game, they can take it or leave it ;)
    Can't Imagine what would happen in countries where they censor nipples to "protect" our youth. 
    @Tsulan
    Thank god we live in Europe and no one censors no ######### !
  • Raptorrotas Raptorrotas

    @Vietfox said:
    Tsulan said:


    Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:


    Tsulan said:


    Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:

    Let's introduce a new item for survivors called: The Dildo

    Contains 4 charges at base. Can only be used near other survivors or the killer. When used, you slide it inside the survivor or killer's ass, stunning them for 5 minutes.

    When you use the last charge, the Dildo gets lodged in the fellow player's poothole, insta-mori'ing them.

    That would traumatize a huge part of our playerbase. Since most are 12 years old.

    It's a horror game, they can take it or leave it ;)

    Can't Imagine what would happen in countries where they censor nipples to "protect" our youth. 

    @Tsulan
    Thank god we live in Europe and no one censors no ######### !

    Germany is sadly more prone to banning stuff instead of censoeing it. But theres some treasures like team fortress 2's hamburger \trycycle gore 😀

  • Vietfox Vietfox
    Raptorrotas said:

    @Vietfox said:
    Tsulan said:


    Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:


    Tsulan said:


    Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:

    Let's introduce a new item for survivors called: The Dildo

    Contains 4 charges at base. Can only be used near other survivors or the killer. When used, you slide it inside the survivor or killer's ass, stunning them for 5 minutes.

    When you use the last charge, the Dildo gets lodged in the fellow player's poothole, insta-mori'ing them.

    That would traumatize a huge part of our playerbase. Since most are 12 years old.

    It's a horror game, they can take it or leave it ;)

    Can't Imagine what would happen in countries where they censor nipples to "protect" our youth. 

    @Tsulan
    Thank god we live in Europe and no one censors no ######### !

    Germany is sadly more prone to banning stuff instead of censoeing it. But theres some treasures like team fortress 2's hamburger \trycycle gore 😀

    @Raptorrotas
    Really? I've been many times in Germany and never noticed. Anyway, i still want to learn German.
  • ShrimpTwiggs ShrimpTwiggs

    As if the gap between Solo and SWF wasn't bad enough, imagine the trolling potential this would add. I see where you're coming from, but I don't think it would bring anything too good to the game.

  • Tsulan Tsulan
    Vietfox said:
    Tsulan said:
    Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
    Tsulan said:
    Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
    Let's introduce a new item for survivors called: The Dildo

    Contains 4 charges at base. Can only be used near other survivors or the killer. When used, you slide it inside the survivor or killer's ass, stunning them for 5 minutes.

    When you use the last charge, the Dildo gets lodged in the fellow player's poothole, insta-mori'ing them.
    That would traumatize a huge part of our playerbase. Since most are 12 years old.
    It's a horror game, they can take it or leave it ;)
    Can't Imagine what would happen in countries where they censor nipples to "protect" our youth. 
    @Tsulan
    Thank god we live in Europe and no one censors no ######### !
    ######### yeah!
    Watching the latest Rambo movie on a Sunday evening uncut with all it's gore and glory.
  • Ryuhi Ryuhi

    @Freudentrauma said:
    Right. Because this game won't get more frustrating or harder to balance, if Devs would have to consider the aspect of survivor vs. survivor as well.

    We already have a survivor vs survivor perk, its called WGLF :chuffed:

  • HellDescent HellDescent

    ..

  • lasombra1979 lasombra1979

    @Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
    Tsulan said:


    Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:

    Let's introduce a new item for survivors called: The Dildo

    Contains 4 charges at base. Can only be used near other survivors or the killer. When used, you slide it inside the survivor or killer's ass, stunning them for 5 minutes.

    When you use the last charge, the Dildo gets lodged in the fellow player's poothole, insta-mori'ing them.

    That would traumatize a huge part of our playerbase. Since most are 12 years old.

    It's a horror game, they can take it or leave it ;)

    Given what the item concept is, they would have no choice but to take it.

  • Boss Boss

    Not so much fighting eachother, but i would like more Perks that make you more powerful as a lone wolf.

  • Shraar Shraar

    I would like this if it was implemented in a way that isn't overly frustrating for Killers.

    It does feel horrible to be David King, shirtless and sexy, but still be running away like a whimp from a teenage girl with a sharp ruler. Like, come on, let me Dead Hard right into her and stun her. That would be an awesome Exhaustion perk.

    On the flip side, let Killers actually be Killers instead of priests. Who cares about sacrificing? Give them more attacks than just their ability and M1. The further we move away from this indirect cat/mouse game of looping, vaults, and perks, into more primal reactions of fight/flight/freeze (right now we're lacking in the fight department) the better.

  • DocFabron DocFabron
    Tsulan said:
    Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
    Tsulan said:
    Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
    Let's introduce a new item for survivors called: The Dildo

    Contains 4 charges at base. Can only be used near other survivors or the killer. When used, you slide it inside the survivor or killer's ass, stunning them for 5 minutes.

    When you use the last charge, the Dildo gets lodged in the fellow player's poothole, insta-mori'ing them.
    That would traumatize a huge part of our playerbase. Since most are 12 years old.
    It's a horror game, they can take it or leave it ;)
    Can't Imagine what would happen in countries where they censor nipples to "protect" our youth. 
    Here in America, boobs and bad words are a no-no, but watching a man bash someone's brains in with a bat or ripping organs out of their stomach is totally fine!
  • Milo Milo

    Yes in a team based game let's make perks that make "you can screw your teammate over"

  • Raptorrotas Raptorrotas

    Actually some sort of 'greedy selfish perks' might actually freshen the meta up depending on their effects.

    One point for implementing those kind of perks would be the original concept that its four strangers who simply want to get out. "Sadly" this slowly turned into a "we're all gonna live together" team mentality where everyone is bff's. ( I wonder if swf had anything to do with it lol )

    I once theorized about such "traitor" perks because im a killer main and want survivors to suffer (lol) but came to the conclusion that those perks need some heavy restrictions because they obviously would disrupt survivor gameflow heavily.
    My loose concept for traitor perks:
    1. "strong" positive personal effect
    2. tag the survivor as "traitor"
    3. medium negative effect for other survivors
    4. tremendous penalty if multiple survivor are tagged as traitors.

    As i am not really creative in creating perks, lets go with a exhaustion perk as example:

    Kickoff
    You can push yourself off walls or other survivors to dash away and break into a short sprint.

    • press E near a wall or survivor to dash away and sprint for 150% movmenet speed for 2 seconds.
    • Causes exhaustion exhaustion for 40 seconds.
    • Avoids damage during the dash if used against a survivor, who is slowed by 75% for 2 seconds.
    • When used against another "traitor", do not dash and both survivors are slowed by 75% for 2 seconds.

    ( one could arguably add a exhaustion penalty to the slowed survivors too)
    I hope its easily understandable and viable enough to consider using.

  • BACKSTABBER BACKSTABBER

    @Raptorrotas said:
    Actually some sort of 'greedy selfish perks' might actually freshen the meta up depending on their effects.

    One point for implementing those kind of perks would be the original concept that its four strangers who simply want to get out. "Sadly" this slowly turned into a "we're all gonna live together" team mentality where everyone is bff's. ( I wonder if swf had anything to do with it lol )

    I once theorized about such "traitor" perks because im a killer main and want survivors to suffer (lol) but came to the conclusion that those perks need some heavy restrictions because they obviously would disrupt survivor gameflow heavily.
    My loose concept for traitor perks:
    1. "strong" positive personal effect
    2. tag the survivor as "traitor"
    3. medium negative effect for other survivors
    4. tremendous penalty if multiple survivor are tagged as traitors.

    As i am not really creative in creating perks, lets go with a exhaustion perk as example:

    Kickoff
    You can push yourself off walls or other survivors to dash away and break into a short sprint.

    • press E near a wall or survivor to dash away and sprint for 150% movmenet speed for 2 seconds.
    • Causes exhaustion exhaustion for 40 seconds.
    • Avoids damage during the dash if used against a survivor, who is slowed by 75% for 2 seconds.
    • When used against another "traitor", do not dash and both survivors are slowed by 75% for 2 seconds.

    ( one could arguably add a exhaustion penalty to the slowed survivors too)
    I hope its easily understandable and viable enough to consider using.

    yep we need greedy/selfish perks, dont forget about stealing items perks

    so far we can only intentionally fail healing skill checks to reveal where is your team mate you wanna leave behind to escape through the Hatch

  • Rebel_Raven Rebel_Raven
    Milo said:

    Yes in a team based game let's make perks that make "you can screw your teammate over"

    The survivors aren't really supposed to be a "team."
    The original idea was to have an antisocial experience as a survivor. That's why we still don't have in game voice chat even through we have SWF.
    4 strangers tossed together with a common goal, but how they achieve it is up to them.

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