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@kamisen said:
@UlvenDagoth :) accepted without hesitation.
Cool! hope you have fun in the game and have good games in the Fog no matter which side you play! Have fun in the Fog
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@kamisen said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/780794#Comment_780794
First, I’m not saying “everything they do”. I’m exclusively talking about the battle pass system, as the post I responded to was about. We cannot know for certain until the actual pass comes out but from the looks of it, the pass is created based on some of the common monetisation schemes.
Now with that out of the way, do I think BHVR are greedy to the core? Absolutely not. I believe they are as passionate about the game as we are. I also believe they genuinely care about the community and that they do what they believe is best for the time being. It just doesn’t always line up with what the community thinks is best.
P.S Read this and tell me they are not in it for the money:
https://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/RaminShokrizade/20130626/194933/The_Top_F2P_Monetization_Tricks.php
I mean, you arn't gonna change my mind. So... hmm... respectful agreement to disagree?
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@myers_obsession said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/780814#Comment_780814
Yes, could also be bc of the big licences and the growth of the company... I miss the old days, where the streams where at a regular base and they listened and talked more to us.
see, I get this more. I'd like to talk to them more too, even if it would just be about Legion till they got sick of me XD
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Hey! Who cares?
No really, like... who cares man? It's not even a big deal.
What are you even saying they are getting free? Seriously, this is a non-issue that Twitch would say they have an issue with anyway.
Besides that Twitch ignores it's own TOS with things like that lady showing her.... then getting back on Twitch after her 4th NSFW strike after only having a 3-4 day ban instead of a permanent one.
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@myers_obsession said:
My post wasn't meant to be rude or salty to make that clear. I am really serious. I hope there isn't some background issue going on. I think thats why they are so silent.
I love the game and I liked the devs from the beginning but something strange is going on. They are distancing more and more :( Also I miss the interactive Dev Streams with Q&As.
Now that I can understand. Wanting to talk more to them cause it.. .feels like a friend has gone distant. Right?
Also @PureHostility it says that something went wrong in the patch and engine update, which lead to them having to push it back. That is exactly what happened without getting into the exhaustive details of everything. Heck, they could have something they don't want spoiled.
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@kamisen said:
@UlvenDagoth I see. I also think the developers still “care” about the community. However, there’s an obvious divide between the interest of the community and what generates a big profit for the company. IF they just acknowledged this, it would be much easier to discuss. They are a business after all. But right now, it feels like they’re keeping up a facade - and no one likes being decieved.
How can you be sure that everything they are doing is just to line there pockets? I don't believe that they are in this just for greed or anything like this. I agree with you that if they said something then it would be clearer, but it's enough to me that the Devs care about this whiny, toxic community enough to put up with us. That's my opinion I know, But it's honestly all I can ask for from a company that deals with so many people at once.
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@Boosted_Dwight said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/780700#Comment_780700
No wait! Please have mercy! D:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/780702#Comment_780702
Some survivors really have zero awareness of their surroundings XD
I was really confused honestly. I just looked at them on the hook, slowly looked down, and walked backwards away.
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@ABannedCat said:
"Some things went wrong and we wouldn't feel comfortable putting the update out in the state it's in."
This is kind of funny considering they have brought updates in horrible horribles states before. They can't mess up any further with this one.
I see why you have "banned" in your name. Wicked? Is that you? Are you ban dodging?
@PureHostility said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/780698#Comment_780698
I don't think people are "rude" due to postponing but rather due to complete lack of information from their part.
They haven't been so distant from community ever, it's a week after release of No Man's Sky, darkness everywhere.
I saw alot of people being rude over the delay and that post I pot DIRECTLY tells you what happened.
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@VSLl said:
Oh yes, you are completely right. There used to be hours-long streams and developers answered questions live. Now we see a record for 20 minutes without any answers to questions. At the forum, developers also avoid answering hot questions, instead they just say this:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/092/UOH7OMKHKXII.png
They say that they want to be closer to their audience and listen to it, but actually not. There is a complete ignore.
@kamisen said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/780599#Comment_780599
I don’t follow how this ties in with my post though. I’m talking about the general disconnect between BHVR and community.
It was more in reply to the top thing and shows that the Devs still care about us.
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@Boosted_Dwight said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/780688#Comment_780688
Evil laughter*
You fool
Starts walking backwards*
Not gonna lie, I played Moonwalking Myers once. Just walked backwards the whole game... i got gen grabs...
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Peanits Dev∙Community Manager › Dev, Community Manager Posts: 3,951
I don't see how the rudeness is necessary. Everyone here is working hard to get it ready as soon as possible. This is one of the biggest updates in a long time combined with an engine update. Some things went wrong and we wouldn't feel comfortable putting the update out in the state it's in. I'm sorry if this is disappointing to you, but shoving the update out the door right now isn't a better option.
As far as the event goes, everything will still be happening according to plan, just slightly after it was originally planned. You won't lose any days, the end date will be shifted back to match.
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No? Not even a little bit.
That's just silly to think you can report for that. Is this bait? I'm a Killer Main, and even I know you can't report for that.
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I think the names I get the most are people asking "Daddy Myers" to mori them. Makes me feel weird to play against them honestly.
I think "Hex:Depression" and "Hex: Gonna give it to ya" are the two best i've seen.
Meanwhile my name is just "Stab Stab Stab"
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his face is amazing though
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Peanits Dev∙Community Manager › Dev, Community Manager Posts: 3,951
I don't see how the rudeness is necessary. Everyone here is working hard to get it ready as soon as possible. This is one of the biggest updates in a long time combined with an engine update. Some things went wrong and we wouldn't feel comfortable putting the update out in the state it's in. I'm sorry if this is disappointing to you, but shoving the update out the door right now isn't a better option.
As far as the event goes, everything will still be happening according to plan, just slightly after it was originally planned. You won't lose any days, the end date will be shifted back to match.
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@NuclearBurrito said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/780403#Comment_780403
Of course. I deliberately put it out to the public for a reason.
Though I would again like to point out that the legion fix specifically is solely geared towards fixing his balance issues and thus is not the best overall fix.
got ya!
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@M1ghtyM4x said:
Lumping you in? Literally unless your trying to sit and defend this mechanic or argue for ruin cause of "Genrushing" when we all know its about as fictitious as it comes then im not lumping you into anything. You read what you want in that statement but killers who arent actively trying to solve the problem like they did WHEN genrushing was a problem arent contributing. You arent coming up with a solution by dismissing the problem and yes offering up NO mither or unbreakable as options is just as bad as actively dismissing it altogether. The whole point is that slugging requires no perks so requiring survivors to waste a perk slot on an end game mechanic is hypocritical.
So good job, you are not listening to what I am saying and dismissing everyone trying to help you. There shouldn't be just a build in counter to it, cause there are perks. @TragicSolitude had the best idea for something like that.
I'm done. You arent helping this discussion either and don't seem to want to have it other than to tell everyone trying to help you that they are wrong.
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or they say this
Peanits Dev∙Community Manager › Dev, Community Manager Posts: 3,951
that sounds like extra work, they would never do that lol. ) <- (This is what Peanits was replying too)
I don't see how the rudeness is necessary. Everyone here is working hard to get it ready as soon as possible. This is one of the biggest updates in a long time combined with an engine update. Some things went wrong and we wouldn't feel comfortable putting the update out in the state it's in. I'm sorry if this is disappointing to you, but shoving the update out the door right now isn't a better option.
As far as the event goes, everything will still be happening according to plan, just slightly after it was originally planned. You won't lose any days, the end date will be shifted back to match.
Want a screen shot?
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and now for an idea from @NuclearBurrito !
Though I would again like to point out that the legion fix specifically is solely geared towards fixing his balance issues and thus is not the best overall fix.
Now for the fix
These changes are all meant to go together:
- M1 attacks no longer drain Frenzy at all
- Killers can see the deep wounds bar draining
- Deep wounds prevents preforming channeled actions besides mending and unhooking
- Frenzy moves at 5.4 M/S
- Frenzy window vault speed is now 0.9 seconds and pallet vault speed is now 1.1 seconds.
- Fatigue time is reduced by 0.5 seconds per Survivor hit in a single Frenzy (without DW).
- Frenzy base fatigue time reduced to 3 seconds (thus the minimum fatigue is 1 second if you hit all 4)
- Frenzy cooldown is reduced to 15 seconds
M1 attack draining his power never made sense. Still doesn't
Killer seeing DW means Legion is now better at tracking and it punishes not mending.
Preventing channeled actions further punishes not mending.
Increase Frenzy speed and vault speed means he's more likely to get chain hits. DW still is extremely unlikely to down and such this isn't problematic.
Fatigue time being reduced by chain hits (default is still 4) means he has an actual method of downing Survivors. Hit them all and then M1 the last one with a very small to nonexistent fatigue for a relatively easy down.
Addon changes:
- Pins - The change about working on first hit happens
- Friendship bracelet/Never sleep pills/Susie's Mixtape - Increase terror radius during Feral Frenzy by 4/6/8 meters (gives them more perk synergy)
Franks Mixtape - Hitting a Survivor with Deep Wounds inflicts Oblivious for 15 seconds(After more thought we figured out this would end up bringing back the Exploit. Needs a change- Ulven)- Fuming Mixtape - Also increases Frenzy Duration by 3 seconds
- Julies Mixtape - Slightly increase Frenzy movement speed (+0.1 M/S)
- Joes Mixtape/Cold dirt - Considerably/Tremendously the time required to refill the power gauge
Pins are being changed anyways. No reason not to support this. (yes please. Put it on the first hit at least)
KI addons now synergise better with perks related to this stuff
@NullSp3c said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/780578#Comment_780578
Honestly, this is the only 4.6m/s legion change that i like, but i would add some things
Feral frenzy should be available to cast at 50% of the bar.This way, the power becomes more flexible.
Also, why do you want franks mixtape and stab wounds study if you cant down someone by deep wounds?
Even though i like this idea, feral frenzy should be lethal by itself imo. There is no better feeling in this game than rushing a survivor down with feral frenzy.
Edit: I've read franks mixtape wrong and now that i get it it doesnt seem like a healthy add on at all. I think it needs change, but not that change that survivors are on a timer to go down and they cant do anything about it (old legion again with this add on).
Franks now causes DW to drain over time for a bit and gives it more utility, while also making sure it doesn't stack with itself due to the new Cold Dirt AND means it can effectively do more "damage" without being abusable (shortest time to down possible is 30 seconds which is longer than what you want)The fatigue addons needed to be change due to the new fatigue mechanic only working at specific values. Having addons effect them would make it much harder to balance, thus making them effect other things such as cooldowns and speed solves the issue. -
@M1ghtyM4x said:
which part?
Well i read enough to dismiss it. Lumping all Killers together and then insulting them? No, I'm good thanks. I don't Slug, Tunnel, or Camp but you are lumping me in with Toxic people that want to only ever 4k and stuff like that? No. I refuse to continue this talk if that is all you are gonna do. I want balance on both sides, cause I want a good back and forth match. If you can't understand a Killer Main that wants that, I don't have time for this.
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i want ALL THE TOMES!!!
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@M1ghtyM4x said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/777689#Comment_777689
it would be fair to just give the survivors a death capsule. something they could use to end it if for instance they get downed and just have the killer following them not hooking them like an idiot. cause thats what killers like to do. or just being forced to wait for an egc to auto hook you cause killers wanna see it. Slugging is dumb and the ONLY people on this post promoting it are killer mains. GUARANTEED. you'll see the same people arguing for ruin and other perks that fine idc about ruin you need it to get kills whatever. doesnt make you good by any means but thats on you. Ruin is still a perk slow they waste. slugging is a mechanic thats being abused in the game by toxic killers to guarantee they get a 4 kill instead of 3. its stupid and pointless and ruins the game for atleast 1 player a match. Again ive only been playing 113 days plus some odd hours. So what do i know
I can't even really read what you are saying man. Like, those sentences are all over. Can you take a moment and kinda fix that so I can read it?
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@KillermainBTWm8 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/778815#Comment_778815
This post right here is the main reason I say Legion doesn't have a power. If the cons are more in number than the pros. Is it really a power or a handicap?
And that is EXACTLY why we need to help Legion (and the lower tier Killers) to be good! Can you believe someone on here suggested nerfing all Killers to Legion Level? Holy crap I hope they were joking.
And yes, currently Legion's power is more of a handicap. That's why this thread is here to try to gather all of the good ideas for them into one place. NO KILLER should make you feel like that one guy in an anime, pulling off the weighted clothing and saying "I'm sorry Master, I must go all out this one time." when you pick someone else. I love Legion, I have a TON of fun as Legion... but they are in such a bad place atm.
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I love Mad Grit so much. It doesn't always work but when it does.... It is simply GLORIOUS! Much like Blood Warden (BAMBOOZLE REQUIEM!)
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@KillermainBTWm8 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/780349#Comment_780349
It's so bad that even survivors and killers discuss on different forum platforms... This one attracts a lot of killers. Yea there are survivors here as well but you don't see as many as killers here. Then I go on Reddit or some other site and it's full of survivors. There is a big divide sadly.
and there really shouldnt be. We should all get along and try and help the Devs make this a better game.
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@survivormain1105 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/780175#Comment_780175
Me personally dont care that it has the ability to see my aura. But you said that it gives reason killers to not camp. I was saying that killers still camp even with bbq on anyway. But hey nothing is going to change. But this discussion is very long at this point.
But on a different note. I would enjoy a better farming perk then WGLF its already hard to get BP as survivors. Am I right yall
I'd be cool with giving yall more BPs across the board.
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@TheALIEN said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/780349#Comment_780349
Cliched- but can’t we all just get along? 💔
Wish we could man. Then we could give some good feed back and not all this Killer Vs. Survivor crap.
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@NuclearBurrito said:
Oh! I have a thing for this
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/87248/pig-fix
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/87236/doctor-fix
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/87765/legion-fix-current-legion-not-old-legion
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/87211/wraith-fix
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/76520/leatherface-fix
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/87208/trapper-fix
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/87255/clown-fix
Oooo can I nab your idea and put it in my Legion thread and credit you?
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This is a terrible idea. You want everyone to be D tier so they can be bullied all day every day? no thanks.
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@NullSp3c said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/778832#Comment_778832
Oh, ok then. That's strange.
I can not tell you WHY on this platform.
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@bubbascal said:
@UlvenDagoth How are you jailed?
I can not tell you on this platform.
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@TheALIEN said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/780272#Comment_780272
You’d be surprised by the amount of survivors that do give credit where credit is due- yeah, I like to think of myself as a Chilled Killer ^.^
Exactly. I hate it when either side just lumps all of the other into a big mass. Like, being toxic to someone just cause they are a Killer or Survivor. That kinda crap is stupid.
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@hiC said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/780302#Comment_780302
Don’t seem to get what? People aren’t allowed to get upset when a developer misses a deadline? Regardless of the underlying issue and what it takes to resolve it, I don’t think it’s out of line to be disappointed the event isn’t launching on time.
Oh no, I don't mean that. I mean the people that get actively rude or DEMAND something back cause of it. Disappointment I get, but things like this happen and it takes time to fix. No one has any reason to be douchebags to the Devs or demand compensation.
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@kisfenkin said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/779711#Comment_779711
This is why I always bring at least a brown toolbox when playing survivor, or even better - a broken key. Nothing messes with a killer more than getting them to waste their own perk slot.
My opinion is this, the second lobby needs to be removed. You should be ready the first time you join the queue. Imagine waiting in only one queue. I bet that would make the game at least a little more stable.
i am sorry in advance if you holding that broken key gets me to kill you faster cause I think you have a real Key.
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@GennyFromTheBlock said:
As a Killer, I don't dodge based on trollbaiting names or flashy cosmetics.
Killers who do that are chumps and are probably the ones who flood these forums with tears about getting "gEn RuShEd."
HOWEVER, as a Survivor main solo queue player... if I see ANY of the default cosmetics - including non-license DLC characters, I leave.
Survivors in the free/default cosmetics tend to be newer and/or casual players with a solo player mindset and selfish interests. They usually backfire gens, unsafe unhook, crouch in a corner of a map, or crabwalk around the map.
I mean, you want BBQ nerfed...
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full Blendette squad with toolboxes is about the only thing that will even make me go "oh... well this is REALLY gonna suck. Do i want a game where i find no one and the gens are done in an instant?" Other than that even if i see Legacy or something I am like "Welp, gonna try!"
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you are so right with this man. People dont seem to get it.
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@Frosty said:
I'd rather some sort of counter to survivors waiting on that threshold of escape, that won't leave until you hit them and they fall through to saftey
I mean, then you get BPs for the hit soo...
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@Sinful_Dreams said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/780233#Comment_780233
Quick question for you. Can you explain where you thought I was being rude?
Oh sorry, I should have made that more clear. That last part with the "I'm not saying you can't be upset, just don't be rude." was more of a general statement for the forum. I thought about it after I posted it, and will update it now to avoid the confusion. You, yourself, were being mostly level-headed.
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@TheALIEN said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/780256#Comment_780256
That’s type I bring noed for on my legion..that’s if they live long enough :3
Yeah he was a pain. They didn't stay in post though and one of the others said sorry that he was being a dick so I was fine. As much as SOME survivors bash Killers, some Survivors are kind people. Same goes with Killers. I like to think i'm pretty chill.
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@Mochan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/779576#Comment_779576
I'm flattered that you believe I'm influential enough to control the attitudes of people on this board! If only it were a reality and not a delusion.
Not gonna lie, I'm glad you can't. No offense of course, but your views are often rather extreme. I think it wouldn't go well for any ONE person to be in control like that anyway though.
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@Mister_xD said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/779763#Comment_779763
there is a difference between "making some noise to lure the killer over here" and "spamming the fastvault so the killer gets a noise notification every .5 seconds until he is so annoyed that he comes over there, hooks and facecamps me because i was an annoying little [very bad word]".
i dont mind them trying to lure me over to them by making some noise, but noisespam is an issue that is just annoying and really has to be addressed. devs themselves said they kept the cooldown on Diversion so long, because they wanted to prevent possible noisespam with it.
just put a buffer in, so the noise notification will only be able to play every 5 seconds, if performed by the same survivor on the same object.
they can still make noise to get my attention, but they wont annoy me up to the point where i will bring a mori next time i see them and heavily focus them down.
Edit: i got the name of the perk wrong xD yeah, Distortion aint gonna make a noise spam. its Diversion i was talking about xD
Oh yeah, I had an Ace do that on Hawkins with the lockers. They had burned a strode offering but I had burned the Hawkins and it favored me for once. I ignored him, got him to come closer by hooking a friend of his. He was good at looping, had BL for the jumps there, but he was first dead. I wonder why... well prolly cause he'd KEEP doing the locker spam. Caught him outta there twice and that was that.
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I directly ignore the clicking of the flashlight. You have no idea how annoying that is for those survivors. I've had people follow me around trying to get my attention then I turn on them as soon as it's in a bad place for them. Just roll with it man, it's on them.
@arslaN said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/779923#Comment_779923
Lmao, you are hilarious buddy. Do you actually compare him/her to someone that plays the game JUST to bully killers?
What they are saying is absolutely true. It is 100% your fault if you get so mad over teabagging or flashlight clicking. Yes, it is annoying, but just get over it and move on.
By the way, let's also disable killers ability to nod to survivors, mori spam and the ability to hit survivors on the hook since it's "toxic behaviour" and annoying.
Oh and they did remove the Killers ability to hit on hook as far as I saw. Swung in for a wap on a save and bounced off the hooked guy like a wall. Weird, but I had Unrelenting for once in a meme build so it worked out.
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@Sinful_Dreams said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/779652#Comment_779652
Nope. Not supporting BHVR anymore with my money after this and neither will my group of friends who quit DBD and thought of returning with the new Halloween event, but guess what? It got delayed because of mistakes on BHVR's end.
That was potential for them to make money right there, gone.
That was potential for them to retain older players, gone.
That was potential for free marketing, gone.
I can go on, but I think that should be a good of enough gist.
If you think everyone here voicing their concerns is still going to be buying their upcoming DLCs and rift pass (which plenty of other games are doing as well) then you have no idea how wrong you are. Sure, many will continue to play, but I can assure you with each continued failure from BHVR, they not only lose costumers, but they also lose parts of their community.
Think about this. BHVR continually releases patches with bugs in them. Let's take Stranger Things into consideration here since it is the most recent update. Have you been around any of the Bug Report sections? Frequent unstable DC's, party problems, matchmaking problems, gamebreaking bugs such as not being able to escape exit gate, no wiggle/attempt, no skill checks appearing, etc. Not to mention they haven't even fixed the trophies/achievements (Let alone publicly acknowledge it) that have been bugged since the summer.
Now if THAT gets released, WHAT do YOU think could have caused BHVR to not release the event on time? If they delayed it because of bugs but didn't delay the Stranger Things update even though it came with a ton of bugs/unfixed bugs, what king of bug(s) do you think could have caused this delay?
Now, expecting something in return isn't at all ridiculous. I don't care what it is they do, but something even if it's just something that helps newer players only such as double BP event being longer than usual would be appropriate. Heck, I would think it's not hard for them to tell us on the same day that they last second mentioned a delay for the event when they actually expect it to come out. Even that is enough. But nope, all we get is a 'sorry, it's delayed, no ETA'.
I, like most people here voicing their opinions, understand that mistakes happen. However, when these mistakes are consistently being reproduced instead of their promises being delivered, it isn't excusable any longer.
Well if you go, bye and I hope you find a game that makes you happy.
I do wonder if Stranger Things was pushing the patch out, or they were scared cause if they delayed it ALL OF YOU WOULD DO THIS EXACT THING THAT YOU ARE DOING!
It's a whole new engine update. Do you want the sound broken like in PTB? Do you want things to be even more buggy and tattered? I think it's funny so many people say they should take time off of DLCs and fix bugs but the second they do, this kinda thing happens.
All of you here, I understand you are upset, and i'm not saying that you can't be upset. But don't be rude with it. There are reasons for what they are doing, and we need to trust them.
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/778881#Comment_778881
I still can't get the infinite droning hum of the swamp boat out of my head that one patch.
I legit disconnected every time I got that map when that sound bug was around. It was really bad.
Or the "Oh hey you can't hear the gen on the other side of this wall, and someone can walk RIGHT BEHIND YOU and unhook and you can't hear it." bug.
I think I remember one streamer lightly looking around a corner and you could hear the survivor on the group cause her mouth was visible... one inch back and you can't hear ANYTHING.
I don't want ANY of that in the game. That would break it in HALF.
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@Mandy said:
This is definitely not something that I can see ever being bannable, when I play killer it's not something that bothers me either. If it's by the exit gate then I just try to get an extra hit on people - all extra points are welcome...sometimes you are able to coax them out far enough to even get a down on them - especially when they don't realise you have quite a few stacks of STBFL built up 😏
This. I love when this happens.
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@OogieBoogie said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/779480#Comment_779480
They're both in need of fixing. Stop using moris to excuse other broken things like keys.
And for the love of god stop suggesting Franklin's. They can easily pick the key back up when they need it and standing guard over it means you won't be guarding gens so it's a loss either way. If they're really smart they'll just hide the key somewhere and go back for it when the hatch spawns. Franklin's isn't a counter to keys.
I've had people do that. Drop the key in a corner then go back for it later. I saw them do it though, so it ended badly for them... but otherwise that would have sucked.
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@GennyFromTheBlock said:
🥴if bbq has so many counters, then why is it a problem to limit the number of aura readings?
Why is everyone still attacking me and mocking my "logic" but happily skirting on by my question?
Because of the simple fact it can be countered in so many ways without perks that nerfing it more would be both unneeded and pointless. I don't run BBQ that much but when I DO use it I sometimes see no one at all, cause they know the counters.
Not only that but you want something that actively encourages the Killer to NOT camp to be nerfed. So sure, by that logic you are asking KILLERS TO CAMP MORE. Do you not get that? Nerf BBQ and you will see more Killers camping cause there is nothing going "Oh hey if you go over to that aura over there and get him, you will get more BPs. Don't you want that?"
Think about the effects of what you are asking for. Multiple Mods and Devs have told you at this point that BBQ is fine, and you have the whole of the community telling you it too. Killers AND Survivors. I make sure to point that out cause you stereotype all Killers as people that want "Survivors to spawn on the hook" and stupid stuff like that. Do you realize how BORING the game would be if something like that happened? I'd personally hate it and I play Killer 98% of the time. I want a good back and forth match, not a stomp either way. So you can't just dismiss me as a "Killer Mainz" and lump me in with the extreme side of Killers. I don't do that to survivors that have a good head on there shoulders like @TragicSolitude and @NoShinyPony
There, your question is answered.
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@borna_lk said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/778149#Comment_778149
I read all and understood all of it. I just don’t believe you are correct on half of what you said. The community is what keeps dead by daylight running, any 100% multiplayer game for that matter. If you have no one to play with the game is worthless. Bhvr seems to be forgetting about it pre-existing community to favour those who haven’t got the game yet. Which isn’t a bad thing, new players for us is good too, but it becomes a bad thing when every promise you made to the existing fan base gets delayed due to improper time management, priorities, etc. Whatever the case may be.
you have a good, glad I could show you why you were wrong, cheers.
The "glad I could show you why you were wrong" was unneeded and very passive aggressive. I ask that you don't take that tone with me.
They want to fix the patch, it's a big patch and A new engine update. Peanits already talked about this. It's broken, and if they released it then it would break the whole game and piss us off even more. I'd rather them take the time to fix the patch and the engine, then put it out broken.
The event will be the same length of days, just pushed back slightly. The devs give a crap about us, and they work hard to help both new and old players (Which btw I don't even know WHY that was brought up other than to strawman)
A date on an event is not a promise, it's a "Hey it should be going by now." Things happen in life that push things back. If your significant other was like "Oh hey, I know I said to you that we would go outta town this date, but work can't let me go now." would you just scream at them that they owe you now? No, I bet you'd understand alot better.
I'm not saying you can't say that the Devs are doing something wrong, i'm saying don't be a douche about it if you DO say it.
So, i'm not gonna end this on a passive aggressive note like you did and instead I will sincerely wish you fun in the game.