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I know solo is hard. Because other survivors are more dangerous than the killer. I've died countless times because they failed a skill check, unhooked in front of the killer without BT, etc.Poweas said:@Tsulan said:
powerbats said:@Tsulan said:
Is this bait?
I really have to ask these days. Since it's basically a call for SWF buffs.
The killer main bias is strong in this one and what in his post even suggested swef buffs since it's like you've got this swf bogeyman bug.
@antgnstea said:
Camping and tunneling
**Being solo survivor is enough a reason on it’s own. **
Survivors get less bp. If killer AFK still can get more bp than a tunneled survivor.
Other toxic survivors happen to be your teammate.
In red ranks it takes ages to find a lobby. Probably most of them either depip or swf with lower ranks to bully inexperienced killers.
Player pride or whatever reason they can’t take a hit or dislike the killer (I don’t know who they find likable) or get bored with a map and dc immediately.
Loading crashes that cause 3 vs 1 matches and more disconnects.
Some of the recent reasons I could think of right now. And yet here I am still waiting in a lobby as survivor, hoping this game would be better. What is it about this game that Keeps you hooked (no pun intended) Stockholm syndrome or what?
I mean I've even bolded #2 here where it's quite obvious the op is talking about solo.
There's also no mention in his post anywhere about swf buffs and the common denominator in all your posts about swf is you, the person that can't handle them. There's plenty of us that don't have an issue with them and don't run off like Courage The Cowardly Dog the moment we see anything that even resembles an swf group.
Can you make a single comment without claiming that I'm biased?
This starts to get annoyingly personal.
You are not biased, don't worry but you don't look at it from the survivor side much to be fair.
SWF solves this problem. Because everyone knows what's going on. That's why I proposed several times to add a ingame voice chat. So solo players can communicate like SWF.
I know that this would tip the balance terribly towards survivors. The devs would require to buff killers hard after that.
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1. Camping has been in the game since the beginning. It even was a announced feature.antgnstea said:@Tsulan I don’t know which part made you think it is bait which I honestly don’t know what that means kinda newbie here, and certainly not understand how it is a call for swf buff.
@Boss like the title says, it is couple of reasons I could think of why it is sometimes frustrating as sole survivor.
@Oooooof Also not a cry for help to developers
I just wanted to share some of that frustration. Like talk it out feel better style.
2. That's not a reason. I mainly play solo.
3. Survivors and killers get roughly the same amount of bloodpoints per hour.
4. True, but I doubt people would leave because of that.
5. Lobby is bugged. Or at least that's what many people think. Devs ######### up the lobby several times over the years. This or piping is to hard for some people.
6. That's a disconnect but not a reason to permanently leave the game.
7. Same. -
Good choiceVietfox said:
@TsulanTsulan said:
Laptops are quite expensive. Have you thought about a normal PC?Vietfox said:
I've always used pc, but in the last few years due to my work had to go from one place to another, so i bought a gaming laptop. As you know laptops dont last as long as proper PCs and when it died i couldn't afford a new one.@Tsulan said:Consoles were fun until they started with this always on bullshit.
Just plug&play was cool. Bring your console to your friends house, and play.But plug, connect, verify, download update, your account has been temporarily suspended because little timmy reported you for unsportmanship behavior, not play. Isn´t really fun anymore. At least for me.
Had tons of games for PS1&2. Some for PS3. But there it started to get annoying.
Maybe i get a switch, because i travel a lot.
If i'm lucky i'll be able to buy one by next summer.
Yeah that's what i'm expecting to buy by next summer. -
Is this bait?
I really have to ask these days. Since it's basically a call for SWF buffs. -
To be fair. There are way less lag switchers than people think. Most suspected lag switchers are simply lag spikes.Vietfox said:Will be bad for lagswitchers
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You obviously don't know what lag switching is. Survivors can do it too.DwightsLifeMatters said: -
Doesn't matter what you do. If you played good or bad. If you killed them all or let them escape.Jago said:@Tsulan said:
Uhh yeah we already had that. If you played since infinity loops, then you should know that. Back then killers could rank up without killing. Survivors complained that killers should kill to rank up (ignoring the fact that they don't need to survive to rank up).
This led to the Victory Cube. Which teached killers that it's important to secure a kill.Cause and consequence.
Thanks mate. That's what I say each time someone complains about not doing 4 k or that kind of stuff, yet they laugh at my opinion when I say I play for the fun of chasing or being better with huntress hatchets and at the game in general...
Some people are just not mature, unsecure, driven my some lowkey toxic killer ... Stuck'd in the past :'D
I had people complain because I let them farm, after 2 disconnected. I had people complain when I didn't let then farm after 2 people disconnected.
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Laptops are quite expensive. Have you thought about a normal PC?Vietfox said:
I've always used pc, but in the last few years due to my work had to go from one place to another, so i bought a gaming laptop. As you know laptops dont last as long as proper PCs and when it died i couldn't afford a new one.@Tsulan said:Consoles were fun until they started with this always on bullshit.
Just plug&play was cool. Bring your console to your friends house, and play.But plug, connect, verify, download update, your account has been temporarily suspended because little timmy reported you for unsportmanship behavior, not play. Isn´t really fun anymore. At least for me.
Had tons of games for PS1&2. Some for PS3. But there it started to get annoying.
Maybe i get a switch, because i travel a lot.
If i'm lucky i'll be able to buy one by next summer. -
Consoles don't hold up to PC graphics and smoothness.Master said:@Tsulan said:
Consoles were fun until they started with this always on bullshit.
Just plug&play was cool. Bring your console to your friends house, and play.But plug, connect, verify, download update, your account has been temporarily suspended because little timmy reported you for unsportmanship behavior, not play. Isn´t really fun anymore. At least for me.
Had tons of games for PS1&2. Some for PS3. But there it started to get annoying.
Maybe i get a switch, because i travel a lot.Some of my friends own a switch and they are pretty happy with it.
After I bought BF3 both for PS3 and PC I realized how bad the PS actually is and completely switched to PC
But Nintendo consoles are a special case, since they have so many exclusive titles.
Really hard to resist. -
Consoles were fun until they started with this always on bullshit.
Just plug&play was cool. Bring your console to your friends house, and play.But plug, connect, verify, download update, your account has been temporarily suspended because little timmy reported you for unsportmanship behavior, not play. Isn´t really fun anymore. At least for me.
Had tons of games for PS1&2. Some for PS3. But there it started to get annoying.
Maybe i get a switch, because i travel a lot. -
@Vietfox said:
Vortexas said:
@Vietfox said: SmokePotion said:
@Vietfox said: I personally enjoy the salt, i mean, i find hilarious when people is pissed at me. I do to, to a degree. but there is a line. Keep it in the game, because it is just a game. RL threats should NEVER happen. And the fact that I have reported these people for such threats, and then seen them in my lobby the next day makes me feel... I dunno. Not good. You know? Why do i wan't to play a game where people not only threaten to, but have, doxxed me for playing? And since I know they can doxx me, that raises the very very real fear that the swatting threats could be more then a threat. If you don't know what swatting is. it's where they send a fake 911 (emergency number in the US) call in to the police, and get them to send a team to bust in your door. @SmokePotion
I'm European so this is a swat free area :chuffed: If someone threatens me i just read the first messages for fun then i block and keep playing. Dunno how often happens in America but here i've never known or heard of someone who got doxxed or anything like that. Swatting is why alot of American streamers take efforts to hide there face, and cam, along with refusing to answer questions about where exactly they live. @Vortexas
And considering that they know this stuff happens aren't they a bit more careful when sending the swat to any building?
You'd think that, but some idiot swatted a guy, and ended up getting someone killed doing it, was in the news fairly recently (this year.)
Yup, no way you see that here in Europe
I think our versions of SWAT are not so trigger happy.
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uhh...
Sad to hear. -
You died and haunt a ps4 now?Vietfox said:Used to play on PC but died and now i'm on PS4 -
I could make fun of killers, but they are so weak, they wouldn't recover from the blow.Vietfox said:
This is @TsulanTsulan said:
But killers got all the buffs and survivors only nerfs. That's why no one plays survivor anymore and every killer has long queues!The_Crusader said:
The Game used to be fun as killer but now due to the hook problem its stressful.Goldengeartwo said:Yeah. Just one hook down there would be good.
Also, is it just me or is the hook spawns on The Game completely screwed right now? It feels like there are barely any hooks on the lower level.
*Random survivor main answer
Never misses a chance to make fun of survivors :chuffed:
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Sounds like a normal match to me.
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Uhh yeah we already had that. If you played since infinity loops, then you should know that. Back then killers could rank up without killing. Survivors complained that killers should kill to rank up (ignoring the fact that they don't need to survive to rank up).
This led to the Victory Cube. Which teached killers that it's important to secure a kill.
Cause and consequence. -
But killers got all the buffs and survivors only nerfs. That's why no one plays survivor anymore and every killer has long queues!The_Crusader said:
The Game used to be fun as killer but now due to the hook problem its stressful.Goldengeartwo said:Yeah. Just one hook down there would be good.
Also, is it just me or is the hook spawns on The Game completely screwed right now? It feels like there are barely any hooks on the lower level.
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ThisVietfox said:You are taking this game and its community too seriously, i mean, you are upset because of people who you don't even know. Think about it.
I had a naughty list, when I faced the same toxic players over and over. So I could prepare a mori or equip a better killer with the best addons.
Otherwise just grow a thicker skin. -
We like it roughVietfox said:
Mmm i heard killers like it that way.@Tsulan said:
Toxic!Vietfox said:
@NeonAlienNeonAlien said:
Hey vietfox, I can't make out your psn Name but if it's something with vietfox I think we played a game together some time ago... Against a Freddy. If that was you, I liked your style.Vietfox said:
@TsulanTsulan said:
But I'm playing almost only survivor now.Vietfox said:
Oh dear but you are biased, at least way more than beforeTsulan said:
People tell me that I'm biased, because I like a challenge.Vietfox said:
@EntityDispleasedEntityDispleased said:"Can we remove one of the only two ways that make this killer barely viable at all? I don't care if that makes him absolutely worthless and weak, I just want easier games."
I like you so i'm gonna respectfully ask you this. Don't you like the challenge?
I still love you @Tsulan ,no worries
I would love to see you playing as survivor. Please record a match and send it to me.
This is me:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uUbl9x-WD3I
Sure think, it's Vietfox87.
I won't be home till january the 3rd or 4th though.
Dont remember, what was my style btw? -
Toxic!Vietfox said:
@NeonAlienNeonAlien said:
Hey vietfox, I can't make out your psn Name but if it's something with vietfox I think we played a game together some time ago... Against a Freddy. If that was you, I liked your style.Vietfox said:
@TsulanTsulan said:
But I'm playing almost only survivor now.Vietfox said:
Oh dear but you are biased, at least way more than beforeTsulan said:
People tell me that I'm biased, because I like a challenge.Vietfox said:
@EntityDispleasedEntityDispleased said:"Can we remove one of the only two ways that make this killer barely viable at all? I don't care if that makes him absolutely worthless and weak, I just want easier games."
I like you so i'm gonna respectfully ask you this. Don't you like the challenge?
I still love you @Tsulan ,no worries
I would love to see you playing as survivor. Please record a match and send it to me.
This is me:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uUbl9x-WD3I
Sure think, it's Vietfox87.
I won't be home till january the 3rd or 4th though.
Dont remember, what was my style btw? -
######### yeah!Vietfox said:
@TsulanTsulan said:
Can't Imagine what would happen in countries where they censor nipples to "protect" our youth.Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
It's a horror game, they can take it or leave itTsulan said:
That would traumatize a huge part of our playerbase. Since most are 12 years old.Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:Let's introduce a new item for survivors called: The Dildo
Contains 4 charges at base. Can only be used near other survivors or the killer. When used, you slide it inside the survivor or killer's ass, stunning them for 5 minutes.
When you use the last charge, the Dildo gets lodged in the fellow player's poothole, insta-mori'ing them.
Thank god we live in Europe and no one censors no ######### !
Watching the latest Rambo movie on a Sunday evening uncut with all it's gore and glory. -
Can't Imagine what would happen in countries where they censor nipples to "protect" our youth.Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
It's a horror game, they can take it or leave itTsulan said:
That would traumatize a huge part of our playerbase. Since most are 12 years old.Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:Let's introduce a new item for survivors called: The Dildo
Contains 4 charges at base. Can only be used near other survivors or the killer. When used, you slide it inside the survivor or killer's ass, stunning them for 5 minutes.
When you use the last charge, the Dildo gets lodged in the fellow player's poothole, insta-mori'ing them.
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That would traumatize a huge part of our playerbase. Since most are 12 years old.Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:Let's introduce a new item for survivors called: The Dildo
Contains 4 charges at base. Can only be used near other survivors or the killer. When used, you slide it inside the survivor or killer's ass, stunning them for 5 minutes.
When you use the last charge, the Dildo gets lodged in the fellow player's poothole, insta-mori'ing them. -
Just turn hex perks into normal ones. Most aren't even that good to justify them being a hex perk.
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What could possibly go wrong?!Vietfox said:
@GodDamn_AngelaGodDamn_Angela said:Survivor vs Survivor perks?
Right, let's buff survivor's griefing and trolling ability. Good idea.
Because sandbagging your own teammates wasn't enough.
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Same goes for the mori.Iceman said:
Everything beside number 1 should not be considered toxic, they are strategys to help your teammate. And now there is a perk for killers to help against survivors who like to body block.GraviteaUK said:With how this game is structured, beyond facecamping it's pretty hard to be toxic as a killer all the tools for toxicity are on the survivors end.
- Teabag spamming.
- Hook blocking
- Flashlighting on pickup
- Leaving hooks at 99% sabotage until the killer goes to use it
- Blocking the killer until someone with non-obsession DS gets the proc.
And leaving hook at 99% is just being smart. -
Don't expect depip squad gameplayVietfox said:
@TsulanTsulan said:
I never tried to record a match. But I have a friend who streams. So I'll ask him for a link, next time we play together.Vietfox said:
@TsulanTsulan said:
But I'm playing almost only survivor now.Vietfox said:
Oh dear but you are biased, at least way more than beforeTsulan said:
People tell me that I'm biased, because I like a challenge.Vietfox said:
@EntityDispleasedEntityDispleased said:"Can we remove one of the only two ways that make this killer barely viable at all? I don't care if that makes him absolutely worthless and weak, I just want easier games."
I like you so i'm gonna respectfully ask you this. Don't you like the challenge?
I still love you @Tsulan ,no worries
I would love to see you playing as survivor. Please record a match and send it to me.
This is me:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uUbl9x-WD3I
Wait up, i just noticed something weird... What are seeing my eyes?? Tsulan playing DbD with friends?? Heresy!!
The antiSWF killer club which you belong to will kick you!! That's unacceptable!
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Played Freddy to rank 1. Doesn't mean he's strong or that it was fun.Vietfox said:
@TsulanTsulan said:
Most killers need buffs. It's a shame that I only see the same killers on high ranks, because the others can't keep up.Vietfox said:
@TsulanTsulan said:
I switched because I don't have time to wait 20 minutes for a match. I'm dramatic, because of Legion, or Freddy. Since there's no difference.Vietfox said:
Oh please dont be dramatic @TsulanTsulan said:Devs have to balance around keeping killers interesting enough so players are actually willing to go through the chore of playing them, and keeping them weak enough so the majority of our players prefer to play survivor.
Either this or they [BAD WORD] up the matchmaking.
It's not a secret that i'm a survivor main, but i swear i'm way better as a killer than as a survivor, so it's not that bad, like, c'mon mate!
But i've said that freddy, leatherdraws and other killers need a buff. The problem is that many people try to buff general stuff for killers instead of buffing the killers who really need it. Like, what would happen if we buffed general features for killer? Nurse, billy, clown, spirit, hag... They all do well enough with the current mechanics.
Billy doesn't need a change.
Nurse only needs to change the rarity of her addon that lets her see where she lands (to rare).
I play mainly without addons to get a grip on the power of a killer. Most killers require certain addons to be played. Which I think is a mistake. Since the only valid killers are those which are good without addons.
I'm pretty sure that one of the main reasons why people run the same killers at rank 1 on PC is because a lack of confidence.
People has created the "culture" of "only viable killers at rank 1 are nurse and billy", but that's completely false.
I've seen players running "non-top tier killer" like gods, especially the clown. (yeah we all know he's strong but people still don't consider him a top tier killer.)
It's simply how hard I have to try, in comparison with more viable killers. -
Not calling you a bully.Vietfox said:
@TsulanTsulan said:
I never tried to record a match. But I have a friend who streams. So I'll ask him for a link, next time we play together.Vietfox said:
@TsulanTsulan said:
But I'm playing almost only survivor now.Vietfox said:
Oh dear but you are biased, at least way more than beforeTsulan said:
People tell me that I'm biased, because I like a challenge.Vietfox said:
@EntityDispleasedEntityDispleased said:"Can we remove one of the only two ways that make this killer barely viable at all? I don't care if that makes him absolutely worthless and weak, I just want easier games."
I like you so i'm gonna respectfully ask you this. Don't you like the challenge?
I still love you @Tsulan ,no worries
I would love to see you playing as survivor. Please record a match and send it to me.
This is me:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uUbl9x-WD3I
Before you call me bully, every time i tbag or flashlight spam on that video it's because killers hardcamped and/or hit my teammates while being hooked.
But the music is not my cup of tea. -
Most killers need buffs. It's a shame that I only see the same killers on high ranks, because the others can't keep up.Vietfox said:
@TsulanTsulan said:
I switched because I don't have time to wait 20 minutes for a match. I'm dramatic, because of Legion, or Freddy. Since there's no difference.Vietfox said:
Oh please dont be dramatic @TsulanTsulan said:Devs have to balance around keeping killers interesting enough so players are actually willing to go through the chore of playing them, and keeping them weak enough so the majority of our players prefer to play survivor.
Either this or they [BAD WORD] up the matchmaking.
It's not a secret that i'm a survivor main, but i swear i'm way better as a killer than as a survivor, so it's not that bad, like, c'mon mate!
But i've said that freddy, leatherdraws and other killers need a buff. The problem is that many people try to buff general stuff for killers instead of buffing the killers who really need it. Like, what would happen if we buffed general features for killer? Nurse, billy, clown, spirit, hag... They all do well enough with the current mechanics.
Billy doesn't need a change.
Nurse only needs to change the rarity of her addon that lets her see where she lands (to rare).
I play mainly without addons to get a grip on the power of a killer. Most killers require certain addons to be played. Which I think is a mistake. Since the only valid killers are those which are good without addons. -
I switched because I don't have time to wait 20 minutes for a match. I'm dramatic, because of Legion, or Freddy. Since there's no difference.Vietfox said:
Oh please dont be dramatic @TsulanTsulan said:Devs have to balance around keeping killers interesting enough so players are actually willing to go through the chore of playing them, and keeping them weak enough so the majority of our players prefer to play survivor.
Either this or they [BAD WORD] up the matchmaking.
It's not a secret that i'm a survivor main, but i swear i'm way better as a killer than as a survivor, so it's not that bad, like, c'mon mate! -
I never tried to record a match. But I have a friend who streams. So I'll ask him for a link, next time we play together.Vietfox said:
@TsulanTsulan said:
But I'm playing almost only survivor now.Vietfox said:
Oh dear but you are biased, at least way more than beforeTsulan said:
People tell me that I'm biased, because I like a challenge.Vietfox said:
@EntityDispleasedEntityDispleased said:"Can we remove one of the only two ways that make this killer barely viable at all? I don't care if that makes him absolutely worthless and weak, I just want easier games."
I like you so i'm gonna respectfully ask you this. Don't you like the challenge?
I still love you @Tsulan ,no worries
I would love to see you playing as survivor. Please record a match and send it to me.
This is me:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uUbl9x-WD3I -
Devs have to balance around keeping killers interesting enough so players are actually willing to go through the chore of playing them, and keeping them weak enough so the majority of our players prefer to play survivor.
Either this or they ######### up the matchmaking. -
But I'm playing almost only survivor now.Vietfox said:
Oh dear but you are biased, at least way more than beforeTsulan said:
People tell me that I'm biased, because I like a challenge.Vietfox said:
@EntityDispleasedEntityDispleased said:"Can we remove one of the only two ways that make this killer barely viable at all? I don't care if that makes him absolutely worthless and weak, I just want easier games."
I like you so i'm gonna respectfully ask you this. Don't you like the challenge?
I still love you @Tsulan ,no worries
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DbD is balanced?The_Crusader said:
Nice try with the elitism.Tsulan said:
Survivor has always been the easy mode. Because the workload is shared among the others. No survivor has to complete 5 gens and loop the killer for 5 minutes. Those tasks are split between 4 players. Or in the case of a 3vs1, 3 players. That's what I'm referring to.The_Crusader said:
No killer bias in that post, not at all. The fact that you had to throw in a salty comment like "the easy mode" says it all.Tsulan said:
Uhm...The_Crusader said:
You mean one of the biggest killer mains with a persecution complex on the forum defends 3 vs 1 games?Orion said:@LordziPL said:
in my opinion. 3v1 is still FAIR. (but your mates can suicide...) buuut 2V1 and 1v1 is ridiciolous! Yesterday I was playing on Susie 1v1 and she spelled "ezzzz"Many people who play Survivor feel the same way. @Tsulan in particular, if memory serves, prefers 3v1 because it's tense and mistakes actually matter since there's nobody to save your ass if you screw up.
Well imagine my shock.
I like 3vs1 matches as survivor. Because that match is hard and every decision could mean the end. If you think that makes me killer biased, than that's your problem.
As killer I usually go softer on 3vs1, because many survivors fear the challenge and disconnect. I guess you're one of them. But I don't blame you. When the easy mode suddenly turns hard, it's to much for many.
I try to do some but in general you get that many these days that no it isn't worth it. If it's the odd occasion I can put up with them but when it's multiple in one night its just boring. Especially not when its a 3 vs 1 because someone dropped out due to a mori being used. 3 survivors vs an ebony mori....thats about the kind of balance killer mains like you want. Bet they still cry about the hatch though.
There was nothing said about Moris. So I guess you'd prefer to disconnect in that situation instead of playing the harder game.
Some of the most memorable matches i had as survivor, have been where someone disconnected.
There is no better feeling than escaping when all odds are against you.
Dark Souls has quite some fans, because it's unforgiving and hard. But maybe you prefer other games.
Dark souls is a fair and balanced game.
DBD is balanced around 4 survivors....or is this the part where you disagree?
Its even worse when the killer resorts to camping/tunneling because they know the remaining 2 wont be able to rush gens.
LoL what?!
Thx to the collision box differences between survivors and killers a chase can take longer than 80 seconds. Which is the time a survivor requires to complete a gen without hitting perfect skill checks or using perks/toolbox.
Just look at the latest hybrid panda videos. Where he gets one gen rush after another.
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People tell me that I'm biased, because I like a challenge.Vietfox said:
@EntityDispleasedEntityDispleased said:"Can we remove one of the only two ways that make this killer barely viable at all? I don't care if that makes him absolutely worthless and weak, I just want easier games."
I like you so i'm gonna respectfully ask you this. Don't you like the challenge? -
Lefty is fun to watch, if you like roleplaying.
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I would like a slider. Where you can choose what kind of dailies you get. Short ones that pay little like now and longer ones that pay 200k+ bps but take many matches to complete.
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A buff for SC...
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Survivor has always been the easy mode. Because the workload is shared among the others. No survivor has to complete 5 gens and loop the killer for 5 minutes. Those tasks are split between 4 players. Or in the case of a 3vs1, 3 players. That's what I'm referring to.The_Crusader said:
No killer bias in that post, not at all. The fact that you had to throw in a salty comment like "the easy mode" says it all.Tsulan said:
Uhm...The_Crusader said:
You mean one of the biggest killer mains with a persecution complex on the forum defends 3 vs 1 games?Orion said:@LordziPL said:
in my opinion. 3v1 is still FAIR. (but your mates can suicide...) buuut 2V1 and 1v1 is ridiciolous! Yesterday I was playing on Susie 1v1 and she spelled "ezzzz"Many people who play Survivor feel the same way. @Tsulan in particular, if memory serves, prefers 3v1 because it's tense and mistakes actually matter since there's nobody to save your ass if you screw up.
Well imagine my shock.
I like 3vs1 matches as survivor. Because that match is hard and every decision could mean the end. If you think that makes me killer biased, than that's your problem.
As killer I usually go softer on 3vs1, because many survivors fear the challenge and disconnect. I guess you're one of them. But I don't blame you. When the easy mode suddenly turns hard, it's to much for many.
I try to do some but in general you get that many these days that no it isn't worth it. If it's the odd occasion I can put up with them but when it's multiple in one night its just boring. Especially not when its a 3 vs 1 because someone dropped out due to a mori being used. 3 survivors vs an ebony mori....thats about the kind of balance killer mains like you want. Bet they still cry about the hatch though.
There was nothing said about Moris. So I guess you'd prefer to disconnect in that situation instead of playing the harder game.
Some of the most memorable matches i had as survivor, have been where someone disconnected.
There is no better feeling than escaping when all odds are against you.
Dark Souls has quite some fans, because it's unforgiving and hard. But maybe you prefer other games. -
Uhm...The_Crusader said:
You mean one of the biggest killer mains with a persecution complex on the forum defends 3 vs 1 games?Orion said:@LordziPL said:
in my opinion. 3v1 is still FAIR. (but your mates can suicide...) buuut 2V1 and 1v1 is ridiciolous! Yesterday I was playing on Susie 1v1 and she spelled "ezzzz"Many people who play Survivor feel the same way. @Tsulan in particular, if memory serves, prefers 3v1 because it's tense and mistakes actually matter since there's nobody to save your ass if you screw up.
Well imagine my shock.
I like 3vs1 matches as survivor. Because that match is hard and every decision could mean the end. If you think that makes me killer biased, than that's your problem.
As killer I usually go softer on 3vs1, because many survivors fear the challenge and disconnect. I guess you're one of them. But I don't blame you. When the easy mode suddenly turns hard, it's to much for many. -
They'd just increase the amount of bots/accountsCardgrey said:Why is it if u post 3 times in a min u get a 3 min silence
Yet u can make as many topics as u want why not add 1 topic create for 30 mins =p
Make them work for that spam -
Then you would have seen people disconnect.Ryuhi said:@Tsulan said:
Ryuhi said:I should mention I'm a survivor main and absolute garbage at killer, but I still get stacks of BBQ more easily than i do WGLF. Mainly because I don't abuse the idiot bullshit ways to get stacks of the latter, and just play regularly when trying to get the former.
Oh cool, a rank 20 killer who explains how easy it is to get BBQ stacks.
Not like survivors disconnect and there's no way in getting those stacks.Rank 4 actually, but I know that I've failed upwards into the red ranks and don't consider myself as good as people who put in the effort with the majority of the killers. Good try tho!
Its kinda sad when people excuse being modest or humble for being inexperienced.
I get 3 stacks as survivor if I unhook, get hit and downed next to that injured survivor.
Now, please show me a killer who can get 3 stacks in 30 seconds. -
*facepalm*Ryuhi said:@Tsulan said:
Ryuhi said:@Tsulan said:
It's not the primary way. Just one of many ways. Killer has only one way to get stacks. Which is even limited to one stack per survivor.
You guys want even more ways to get stacks as survivor. With no work or risk involved. While it's already way to easy, at least compared to killer.
Many ways. aka literally 3. If you actually read the posts, you'd see that I'm directly opposed to them having anything to do with gens, and more to do with boldness and altruism events (even making new ones to suit smarter play.) The killer has zero competition in getting their stacks, and they also have a higher average to multiply them off of (especially since the survival category is only trumped by the pig's deviousness category right now in terms of sucking.) BBQ also has an auxiliary use (which again, I and many others do NOT want or expect to WGLF.) which even helps with accumulating stacks by helping find other survivors.
But back to the competition point, that is the real reason anyone, survivor or killer, wants to see it change. It leads to very bad games filled with very bad plays because of people trying to get stacks. Unsafe unhooks, as we both agreed, are an easy way to get TWO stacks, and covers literally 2 out of 3 methods in one swoop. Thats promoting bad plays. Something like leading a killer away from someone who was just unhooked, and keeping them distracted long enough for them to get to safety and fully healed? thats far more worthy of a stack then just running into a killer hoisting a downed survivor and them giving you a pat on the butt as you run by.
Unhooking
Getting hit next to a injured survivor
Getting hit next to a downed survivor
Getting hit while the killer carries a survivor
Flashlight save
Pallet save a carried survivorMaybe I'm bad at math.
you are, because you're taking the same exact scenarios and trying to inflate them.
Unhooking
Taking a hit for another survivor
Making a stun save.if you want to be that dishonest about it, you should at least add things like "taking a chainsaw for another survivor" "Getting deep wounds while protecting another survivor" or even "Getting in between the spicy romance of the pig's armblade and Dwight's back"
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They are. We had some spam about fake money in English. Survived long enough to get 3 pages of responses.DwightsLifeMatters said:
I don't think they are smart enuf for that lolExerlin said:@Nickenzie said:
Vortexas said:and BUMP because this forums language is ENGLISH not Chinese college spam.
Couldn't they have the system automatically ban users who post Chinese in the English forums?
The spammers would probably just toss their text through google translate. I doubt it would do much to prevent spam.
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Oh cool, a rank 20 killer who explains how easy it is to get BBQ stacks.Ryuhi said:I should mention I'm a survivor main and absolute garbage at killer, but I still get stacks of BBQ more easily than i do WGLF. Mainly because I don't abuse the idiot bullshit ways to get stacks of the latter, and just play regularly when trying to get the former.
Not like survivors disconnect and there's no way in getting those stacks. -
UnhookingRyuhi said:@Tsulan said:
It's not the primary way. Just one of many ways. Killer has only one way to get stacks. Which is even limited to one stack per survivor.You guys want even more ways to get stacks as survivor. With no work or risk involved. While it's already way to easy, at least compared to killer.
Many ways. aka literally 3. If you actually read the posts, you'd see that I'm directly opposed to them having anything to do with gens, and more to do with boldness and altruism events (even making new ones to suit smarter play.) The killer has zero competition in getting their stacks, and they also have a higher average to multiply them off of (especially since the survival category is only trumped by the pig's deviousness category right now in terms of sucking.) BBQ also has an auxiliary use (which again, I and many others do NOT want or expect to WGLF.) which even helps with accumulating stacks by helping find other survivors.
But back to the competition point, that is the real reason anyone, survivor or killer, wants to see it change. It leads to very bad games filled with very bad plays because of people trying to get stacks. Unsafe unhooks, as we both agreed, are an easy way to get TWO stacks, and covers literally 2 out of 3 methods in one swoop. Thats promoting bad plays. Something like leading a killer away from someone who was just unhooked, and keeping them distracted long enough for them to get to safety and fully healed? thats far more worthy of a stack then just running into a killer hoisting a downed survivor and them giving you a pat on the butt as you run by.
Getting hit next to a injured survivor
Getting hit next to a downed survivor
Getting hit while the killer carries a survivor
Flashlight save
Pallet save a carried survivor
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I don't see many hags. I do see tons of unsafe unhooks.Ryuhi said:@Tsulan said:
DwightsLifeMatters said:
Tsulan said:
Ryuhi said:@Tsulan said:
Am I the only one who thinks WGLF should only award points from unhooking different survivors, just like BBQ does?
Right now it favors unsafe unhooks.
Its already hard enough to get stacks, why would you want to make it harder? This would even cause people to ignore unhooks because they'd be wasting their positioning to be able to secure saves that WILL grant them stacks. There are much better alternatives, my favorite of which is to REQUIRE that it is a safe unhook, but grant a second stack if you heal that survivor to full within a certain period of time. All they would need to do is give it a decent window of time like We'll Make It and it could make the perk a lot more reliable. Another suggestion I've had in the past is to make an event for drawing a killer as far away from an unhook as possible, giving teammates a chance to get the unhook and full heal without being anywhere near the killer's TR for the duration. There are plenty of ways to improve the system without trying to make it parallel to BBQ&C.
As it stands currently, the best strategy is to wait until the killer is just outside of their TR, then unhook with your back to the killer. that way when they inevitably come back, you'll take the hit instead of the hooked person, giving you two stacks for a bad play. either that or using BT when they're pretty much just outside of distance to be able to grab interrupt, which is also a bad play that effectively grants stacks. Its bad enough people do things like try to bodyblock when there isnt enough time to wiggle free, just to take a slug and get the stack.
TL;DR instead of making it harder to get stacks overall, they should make it so that smarter plays can also get stacks, and make it harder for dumb plays to.
Stopped reading after "stacks are hard to get"
Killer stacks are hard to get. But survivor stacks? Just move away from the gen...U know that u only get stacks if ur teammates get downed like chickens right? And also only if ur faster for the unhook than the other mates, but still patience enuf so it doesn't lead to farm? Cuz if u farm, u most likely won't escape at the end, an that results to even less points as survivors already get.
I'm not saying that getting WGLF stacks is harder than BBQ&C, but saying that getting survivor stacks is ez pz (without farming) is pretty biased thoApparently I know that perk better than you.
Since you also get stacks by getting hit near someone who's injured. Or if you do a flashlight save.As survivor I have to run to the freshly hooked survivor, unhook with BT, get hit by the camping killer, and got 2 stacks without getting downed.
Killer needs to track, chase, down and hook 2 different survivors.
Yeah, survivor is so much harder
facepalmSince you're using absurd hypotheticals to suit your needs, how about this one:
Hag has make your choice, wins a chase, puts traps near the hook. teammate sets off traps after unhooking, hag gets the free exposed down. boom, 2 stacks.
Let's continue this thought. The first unhooked survivor goes in for the rescue. Same scenario. No stacks for the hag.
It's ok, at least you tried. -
It's not the primary way. Just one of many ways. Killer has only one way to get stacks. Which is even limited to one stack per survivor.Ryuhi said:@Tsulan said:
Ryuhi said:@Tsulan said:
Ryuhi said:
@Tsulan said: Am I the only one who thinks WGLF should only award points from unhooking different survivors, just like BBQ does? Right now it favors unsafe unhooks. Its already hard enough to get stacks, why would you want to make it harder? This would even cause people to ignore unhooks because they'd be wasting their positioning to be able to secure saves that WILL grant them stacks. There are much better alternatives, my favorite of which is to REQUIRE that it is a safe unhook, but grant a second stack if you heal that survivor to full within a certain period of time. All they would need to do is give it a decent window of time like We'll Make It and it could make the perk a lot more reliable. Another suggestion I've had in the past is to make an event for drawing a killer as far away from an unhook as possible, giving teammates a chance to get the unhook and full heal without being anywhere near the killer's TR for the duration. There are plenty of ways to improve the system without trying to make it parallel to BBQ&C. As it stands currently, the best strategy is to wait until the killer is just outside of their TR, then unhook with your back to the killer. that way when they inevitably come back, you'll take the hit instead of the hooked person, giving you two stacks for a bad play. either that or using BT when they're pretty much just outside of distance to be able to grab interrupt, which is also a bad play that effectively grants stacks. Its bad enough people do things like try to bodyblock when there isnt enough time to wiggle free, just to take a slug and get the stack. TL;DR instead of making it harder to get stacks overall, they should make it so that smarter plays can also get stacks, and make it harder for dumb plays to. Stopped reading after "stacks are hard to get"
Killer stacks are hard to get. But survivor stacks? Just move away from the gen...
yeah, and when there's 2 p3 claudettes popping a squat right next to the person who just got hooked, your chances are reaaaaaal good to get those stacks by just "moving away from the gen."
Kindred isnt baseline, so the only way solo survivors are going to know someone else is going for the save is to either hope the person hooked has it, or just assume someone else is going for it unless they actively know where the other players are (on the same gen, for instance.) Not only this, but an unhook grants 1k, safe unhook adds another 500, and a full heal adds another 400... ON TOP of getting at least 1 WGLF stack. all in far less time than it takes to complete a gen for 1250. This causes a vulture effect where people essentially flat out fight over unhooks, especially since they already committed to leaving their gen to get there.
Unhooks are not the only way to get stacks
no #########, but it IS the primary way to. Taking hits for other survivors can be very touchy with proccing, as it often requires you to be directly on top of them (i.e the attack would have made contact with the other survivor if not for your hitbox absorbing it first.) This means that getting hit while unhooking, healing someone, or just straight up running in front of a killer carrying a teammate "to bodyblock" are the main ways to activate that method. Unhooking is by far the primary intended method for getting stacks, especially since it has the least danger ironically (and can even cause two stacks in the afforementioned scenarios.)
You guys want even more ways to get stacks as survivor. With no work or risk involved. While it's already way to easy, at least compared to killer. -
That's funny. I thought the devs removed face camping over a year ago.Jake_Parks_prince said:@Mister_xD said:
@Jake_Parks_prince said:
@BeanieEnthusiast said:
How about a penalty for someone using DS? If you successfully hit the skill check you get sacrificed immediately.Someone: Yeah I'd like to not get an instant death which is imposs> @Mister_xD said:
no.
reward not camping killers instead.gosh, is it so hard to think of something else but a punishment for killers??
ffs camping got nerfed INTO THE GROUND!
the only reason why killers camp is because the survivors make it worth it. do the gens, have 3 or 4 dont in the time the killer camps one and he will at max get a 2k, which would eigther force him to blackpip ir to depip, while you pip, due to good lightbringer and unbroken scores.I mean ive gotten a 4k with one gen left in rank 2 I hate to say this but why are ypu punishing survivors for doing the objective?
im not punishing you for doing your objective.
not at all. by camping i just encourage you to do it instead of going for altruistic plays.
camping usually means, that the person who gets camped failed at their own objective: staying alive. by that they allowed me to gain one step in my objective, which is: sacrifice you.
with other words, camping just lets you feel the consequences of f*cking up, while getting saved and healed make the whole hook meaingless in the first place.
i know its no fun, but that goes for both sides. the killer also has no fun while camping.
besides that, i just wanted to point out that camping has been nerfed multiple times to a point where it doesnt take a lot to beat a camper, forcing him to depip.and again, the fact that you got a 4k with camping on rank 2 only shows, that survivors still dont understand how to beat a camper.
maybe I should've mentioned this. I didn't camp at all for the 4k. Also I remember the best time I was face camped was against peek-a-boo Myers in the hospital. He just came from behind a wall and pulled me off a gen no way to know he was there at all. So in cases like that how is that punishing a survivor for doing bad? I don't play survivor often anymore because all most people do is face camp and tunnel.