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@OniWantsYourMacaroni said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1604827#Comment_1604827
But he didn't play with addons which is a serious disadvantage on ghostface because of that big cooldown.
Also,there were quite a few mistakes he made in that video.
I mean,just picking up a survivor he knew that had DS is such an obvious one.
I can understand this. I play often by myself on this way as Legion main, but also sometimes as Trapper, Meyers, or GF.
If you play a killer on this way, well... my english is not the best... How put I it best? "You feel the basekit of your favorite killer" more? It makes then more fun... Does that make sense?
Its a great way of playing dbd imo, if you are really interested into your character role. Also, if you win, you know you have more as deserve it. Not like the guys with ds and all that crap^^.
Drawback of this is, you really need to know the strength and weaknesses of the character you are playing and of course, you are not pumped up by addons, but that's why it makes more fun.
You have the "original" experience.
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@Afius said:
@Talmeer thank you. But on the generator note unless you get notified on who you're facing aren't you kind of in a dilemma when you first start the match and don't know who the killer is?
I did not know his vision was different while in frenzy is it narrowed or something?
Edit: nevermind my generator comment I reread and noticed you mentioned specifically his perk.
Yes, sorry, my english is not the best one, someone can have :)
If you like, you can watch how the Legion sees the world while he is frenzy, here (at around 0:34):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3lA00rvy94As you can see, no scratch markes, no nothing and you moving fast - means the changes are higher that you miss to recognize something on your way, while you run around.
Especially in the beginning, it is easy to juke him, if you learn how to do it, but you need to be in a area for it with many hiding spots.
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@Afius said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1603374#Comment_1603374
I've heard that he's a noob stomper but what's the trick to beat him is it just stay separated? He goes into that raised knife mode and is fast af.
-Stay separated if possible as you already said before.
-Never ever repair gens with other people because the changes are high that you run in discordance, the only really accepted Legion perk in the whole community (feeled - even I like every Legion perk :)).
-Try to animate the Legion player, to activate his frenzy power. His power is his biggest weakness, since he can't see much while he is in frenzy and is then trapped between 2 possible stun situations, that would give you time to get space to him.
Also learn to juke. If you do it while the Legion is in frenzy, it can often safe you. Especially if you are in a area with many things to hide behind it.
-Learn mindgames. It will also help you against the most other killers.
-Play stealthy if that is a option for you. While the killersight is strong from the Legion, he still can be lose against a well coordinated stealth team, since he need first to hit a survivor before he can see other survivors.
There are more, but this are the most obvious and known counters.
Edit: @ScienceGirl
Well, mending is a not very loved by the survivors. On the other hand - what else should a Legion do? Bhvr has rob us of any alternative, so it isn't our fault. Before the rework patch, some Legion mains warned bhvr even for this situation, but they had stick their head in the ground and just done their thing, so that now everyone suffers because of it -_-.
Still, dcing is too much. From my experience btw., dcs sind with every killer possible, if you outplay the survivor team.
Don't feel bad. If you play fair, you have done what is possible. If that is not enough for a specific survivor, he just should leave and enjoy his 15 min+ waiting time for the next match.
If everything runs perfectly, 5 people have fun in the match they are currently playing. If 1 likes to destroy it for everyone he just should go. Out of sight, out of mind, hm?
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@KingFrost said:
I don't get why people DC against Legion. Or Freddy. But especially Legion. Freddy's strong, sure. But he's not THAT strong. You don't see people dcing against Spirit or Nurse. And Legion? Like seriously? I don't get the hate for them. I don't mind facing Legion as long as my teammates don't DC. Just like I don't mind facing any killer in the game (minus OP stuff). Legion can't even down you with his/her power!
Wish every survivor would be like you. You seem to have the survivor mindset how it is necessary for this game (I mean this positive).
The truth is sadly, that many survivors dc for every possible reason. The wrong killer, the wrong killer perk, the wrong survivor perks, they being the first hook, the wrong map... Etc. You got it by now, I guess.
I have no high opinion of such survivors and I wish bhvr would not listen to them, but they have do it sadly at least sometimes in the past.
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@ScienceGirl said:
Legion have been my favourite killer since they dropped, but for the past few months I’ve been experimenting with other killers as I feel like the best way to counter a killer as a survivor is to know how they operate. Anyway, I started playing as my baby daddy Frank a few days ago and I’ve noticed that survivors will either DC or completely give up which then puts me in a dilemma.
I personally think survivors look so adorable when they just give up and I can’t bring myself to kill them. Which then leads to me travelling around the map and letting them pallet stun me and doing the ‘feral frenzy moonwalk’ whilst they fix gens in front of me
I don’t mind doing this once in a while but in almost every match this was happening. To the point I had to switch to Trapper to get normal matches. It’s really tough as I love Legion so much and don’t want to give them up, but survivors just seem to hate playing against them and it just makes the games no fun for me, as where’s the fun in killing somebody who’s just standing still?
I also just recently bought Robbie the Rabbit and want to show him off. 😭 🐰
Some survivors live in their own world.
They think that the game has to be how they would like to see it. Missing the point that it should entertain many branches of different people.
If you encounter such survivors, you should kill them. With satisfaction.
How ever, if they really have no chance and play fair and nice, why not meme a bit around with them and have fun?
I had many fun matches with the old Legion and even then the new Legion is designed to be boring as hell, you can as killer still make fun with the survivors so that everyone enjoys the match.
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Julie is love.
Nothing more is to say :).
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I had also play DayZ and was extremly annoyed by the pvp part.
I mean, it makes also no god damn sense. If something like this would happen in rl, humans would need to stick together, or they would die.
The weak, the ill, the strong, the thinkers... Every single one of them.
I have at the moment only dbd installed for pvp content, but I play it not much currently. Most of the time I play Skyrim/Fallout, Wasteland 3 or Crossroads Inn and I wait of course for Cyberpunk 2077 like the rest of the world :).
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@MadLordJack said:
Just a general rule: If the survivors can coordinate, you are the survivors plaything. They can trump literally anything that you can do and you just play every match hoping that they don't. This goes for every killer regardless of add-ons, offerings or perks, because gens trump everything (which they kind of should).
Trapper, however, might be the contender for weakest killer in the game, especially without add-ons. He has the absolute worst early game in the game, when he's fully set up the exit gates are open, his power is unreliable at best, and he has to constantly outhink survivors that can undo his work in seconds with zero thought (even accidentally - they can just step on a trap by accident, free themselves, and run away before you get there). So, basically, just try to have fun and see what you can get away with.
It is crazy if you think about that:
-A survivor runs in a bear trap.
-Hard metal shoot in the ankles and leg of said survivor.
-Then he can free himself, or by a other person and just walk away.
Imagine that in reality! Hurts almost your brain if you think about that :).
I bet in reality he would not been able to walk without medical help and a bear trap like that... Have fun opening it with your hands. Those things are build to hold bears! Ah... I should not think about it -_-.
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@Golden_spider said:
Just always run Trapper Sack/Trapper Bag/Stitched Bag and Logwood Dye/Tar Bottle, A Faint/Hazy/Murky Reagent, and Whispers.
And then hope they didn't put Object Of Obsession on to invalidate all of that because they just get to know where you placed every single trap.
If they having mices, 1 survivor followes the killer anyways and tells everyone where the trap lays.
If that is the case, you should stop using them and instead just m1 everybody. Trapper is one of the killer who suffers most under survivor teams with mics.
If they have no mics, it is fun to play him, because of the traps^^.
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In my eyes, dbd has no esports potential in its current state and I am part of the generation who could see the first esportlers rising to the scene it is today. I have even talk and play in fun/friendly matches against some in Starcraft: Broodwar back in the good old days.
Dbd would need to be balanced for a good esports expierence and that outside of perks and dbd is so far away from this goal, like we are from the andromeda galaxy.
Also I am not sure how much the later audience of "esports-dbd" would enjoy the m1 gameplay that is mostly shown by survivors and killers in dbd.
The killers would need to be much more different as they are today imo and the objectives of the survivors should be made a bit more intersting and challenging.
Also I am not sure how the existing dbd players would accept a esports path. I can understand that it sounds for some people thrilling if they think about it, but in the praxis it would mean that more and more things would be patched out that are currently op and that means, that no player would be able to blame something op for his failure in a match.
Sounds maybe like nothing important, but believe me, some people can really go in a rage mode by this.
Also it would mean a mm that only puts people together with the same skillset. By reading the mm threads in this forum one can come to the opinion, that not everybody would like that.
I know my posting is pretty dark, but alone the idea... Just no^^.
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I have done it in the past only if I have thought to myself "I like to end dbd for today, but just one more match...".
If then has come a team into my lobby that had lock much like tryhards, I had just end dbd and not play this "one more match".
Happens not today anymore, since I make anyways just 1 match/month for testing purposes at a max.
Edit: After thinking to myself: Can we still see this as dodging? Guess its in the grey area from it.
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@fordragos said:
Just ignore OP and this post, probably another facecamping, tunneling or a NOED user who has deluded himself into thinking that hes playing normally. Lets just move on.
Ah yes, assumptions. Always better as facts for the masses.
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Yep. Me. Because as said before - it feels good. :)
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Would like to seeing no performance threads anymore, but I lack the knoweldge how to fix the perfomance issuses some people have.
Would love to see no swf threads anymore. Would buff for that killer and solosurvivors and maybe change the way how perks are used in dbd.
Would more as just love to see no legion threads anymore. Imo, they should make a new chapter with a killer that spreads dw like nothing else and give the originals buyers of the legion dlc finally the killer back why they have bought him.
Would like to see no ds, noed, bt whatever threads anymore. Problem solution would be to change the way how perks in dbd are handled imo.
But let us be honest... Every topic besides the first one, has still a long road to go before it gets recognized by the devs imo.
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It is a great abilitie and makes sense. Also it looks and feels good as killer. Whats the problem?
Survivors have so many tools to win in certain situations, there should be a so little abilitie not be a problem imo.
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-saving matches: Discordance.
-saving my nerves: Iron maiden and Mad Grit. Without them I would have maybe turn sometimes really mad^^.
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I don't know. I don't see frenzy as a travel abilitie anymore, since they got this huge stun on top of it.
I mean, a stun was always there, but in the past the stun was much shorter and only on this way, frenzy had make really sense as a travel abilitie.
If you are today unlucky, you maybe need frenzy at your arrival at some gen, or what ever and then you can't use it because of this 2h stun.
But besides that - yeah Legion is since the rework much more beginner friendly. Still I think, Trapper is a better one to start with. With this killer, new killers are even more forced to learn the m1 gameplay as with the Legion, because that's what he mainly does besides laying sometimes a trap.
Edit: With that I don't like to say that Legion is a perfect killer. Far from it, but even as a killer that can't use anymore his full potential, he can be still good for newbies, even better as before imo.
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@Jyn_Mojito said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1599051#Comment_1599051
I gotta say I think it's the opposite- the older you get, the less you worry about what other ppl are doing.
Those players playing clickity-clack on flashlight, or t-bagging at the gates? Listen sweet summer children, when I have a mortgage to pay and a toddler screaming because I gave them the WRONG color of goldfish crackers...you're not even blipping on my radar.
Best answer. Even she does not wash out the problem dbd has, but I see it more as a social problem, as a problem that is releated to dbd.
The people in dbd are just maybe the first people toxic guy nr.1 sees at his day and because his live is crap, he jumps on the throat of the first person he sees -_-. Or also is being toxic towards his survivor mates/the killer because he don't know how to solve his rl problems.
And because I see the source of this behavior outside of behavior's game (sorry I couldn't resist :) I believe that we have to live with it^^.
That said... I had never a really toxic endgame chat how I have sometimes read here it in those forums and my most active time in dbd was, as the real Legion still existed in dbd. So... Just from my background I should have seen a ton of toxicity, but without the dbd forums I would even not know how strong the toxicity in dbd really is.
Edit: What I wanted to say with the last lines... Sometimes toxicity can also come from toxicity... A fair gameplay and good behavior in the endgame chat can safe everybody for some headaches.
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Pyramid head sounds like an interesting killer, but sadly his look :|...
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Dbd will never lose its toxicity. You can even see it on the discussions about it.
People come along and start talking about how terrible survivors are, or killers, or the one or other tactic and then they have found their own excuse why they start to act like this.
Until the people not understand that there is no excuse for this behavior, we will have to live with it and well... personally I think we will never see this :).
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@mintchapstick said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1598384#Comment_1598384
It's pretty petty and immature though lol.
Well, but he has a point.
If some people would stop their toxic behavior... You know^^. But if I see the fanbase of some streamers writing, I get the feeling that it is hard for them to be not toxic.
Nobody should be surprised if he has a burned hand, after laying his hand on a hot stove.
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I think this thread is besides the point.
Toxicity is toxicity. If we stop seeing it as what it is and start to categorize it, we also start to legitimize it.
We can only hope that it in general stops one day, even if that is utopian.
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I hope bhvr makes it one day real.
The picture how chucky runs and then jumps on david's shoulders, just to mori him with a knife would be golden :D.
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I think Chucky would be funny. Also I see there no problem... I mean in dbd, killers can't die and with that, children as killer would not die. Should be ok for a 18+ title imo.
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Surprising list for me.
Had not thought that Pyramid Head would be so much accepted, after just a few months after release.
Seeing Pig, Clown and Plague down the list was on the other hand no surprise at all. Clown and Plague had never a happy live, compared to some other killers and Pig had got several nerfs.
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@Mekochi said:
So I am a survivor main (if you've seen any of my comments/posts I've pointed this out before) and I don't get why so many survivors complain about Spirit. She is counterable, you just have to learn to do it. If she does a fake out in front of a pallet, don't risk vaulting it, that's your own fault for playing dumb because it's an actual strategy.
"But Stridor Spirit renders Iron Will useless." You might say, out of the hundreds of games I've played against Normal Spirits and Stridor Spirits, I've learned to counter both just fine, yeah I lose a few games here and there, but I give the killer a GG instead of coming to the forums to post "X killer is OP!!"
No, that just means the killer you played against knew how to use that killer, Hillbilly just got nerfed, and two killer perks were buffed(? I don't play killer so I don't know how to feel about new Franklin's/Knockout lol).
What more do you want? Every killer you can't counter to receive a nerf because "Woes me, x killer killed me and is therefore overpowered." Grow up, survivors still need DS to get a nerf, until that happens, none of us get to complain about Spirit being "overpowered".
I just don't get it.
Thank you for making this thread.
In the past, I have sometimes made postings and tell that are survivors out there that know how to counter killer XYZ, even if the common mindset is, that they are unbeatable.
Some survivors really need to learn that it takes sometimes a bit of praxis to learn the counters, after my opinion. They shouldn't always flee to the social media plattforms and instead just getting better.
And before now some survivor main rushes up in anger towards me - the same counts for killers in similar situaitons.
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@mintchapstick said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1593533#Comment_1593533
I'm a Legion main, dude. Don't try to tell me how he works. Killer instinct only works after a successful frenzy hit--not when Legion is casually strolling around the map unable to find anyone so they decide to toggle on their wallhacks and beeline across the map to go after someone in a completely opposite corner.
& I'm rank 5 right now but I still run into NOED every match.
Sure there was not whispers running or stridor? Stridor can be very strong, if you are lucky that you are in the 1 match of 20 were no sound bugs happen.
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@KingFrost said:
I want to try Deathslinger, but let's just say... I'm a Stormtrooper.
So you don't hit with most of your shots?
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Sorry I couldn't resist but that is to see in every Star Wars movie :).
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The first one has my sympathy who tried to safe his fellow survivor. But the others?
Why they have move in the basement?
Weren't they aware what was happening? You can't go on with the same behavior in every match -_-.
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In general, after my experience, are the most people friendly if you are by yourself behave friendly.
That means, no bs in the endgame chat, no facecamping or hardcore tunneling (I say hardcore tunneling because the word tunneling is already in use for almost everything in those forums).
Of course there will be still toxic survivors, but those are either getting facecamped in the game, or talked down by other survivors in the endgame chat. The last one I had several times in my endgame chats.
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@Gravewalker200 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1591962#Comment_1591962
I have shared my opinion on moris in a response in here but swf is a bit more difficult to fix and fixing it could break a lot more. You would have to buff solo queue, but oh, not too much now. Then, you have to buff certain killers just the right way and one slight mistake could mean the world.
Hey, you have ask, I have answer.
What swfs matters, so I don't know a answer by myself. I just would dislike it if they would be somehow nerfed. Instead other parts of the game should be buffed. That is my opinion to that matter.
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Killer: Moris
Survivor: SWF's
That said, I like the mori animations and would dislike it, if they would take them out. What swf's matters so I understand it that the people like to play together. That is just normal, but still it sucks sometimes if you are on the other side.
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Dbd can be hard, but if you have found a killer you like, it is worth all the hassle.
The mm is maybe bad, but that was it always. I would not set any hope in it, that it will one day be better. On the flipside - you will be better over time, usually.
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@BabyDweetMain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1590588#Comment_1590588
Do you even know what entitled means pleb? Lol maybe look it up before trying and failing at coming at me.
It's ok kiddo. Say what you have to say. sighs Just let me drink my coffee to soothe my headache because I know guys like you just too good.
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@BabyDweetMain said:
The forums are majority killer mains. I've seen so many toxic cry baby entitled killer main posts who literally demand the devs to constantly nerf survivors even more. Its frustrating to read and it's pretty sad honestly.
And your posting was not entitled? Serious guy, you talk like the prime example of a hurted survivor main, but go on :)
To come to your question, because many survivor accross the social media plattforms create the impression that they would not like to learn something new and that since years and if you see something like this over and over and overrr... again... At one point it will grown to a popular opinion.
And no matter how you see it, it is easy to addapt to this opinion since every killer who is different to the usual m1 gameplay got already nerfed by bhvr because of survivor complainments, or survivors have them "in work" for being nerfed in the future.
If someone is interested in new gamestyles, or has no problems with them, he says not "nerf them!", instead he ask: "what is the best tactic against xyz?".
That said, I know that the common survivor is different to this common opinion about survivors.
The survivors I met in the game are either silent or friendly in 99% of the matches. The survivors I met here in the bhvr forums are to 99% either toxic or some kind of survivor main who need someone which holds his hands the entire match because he can't find the "w" key on his keyboard.
If survivors want to change something on this common picture, they should give killer mains a reason to respect them and the way to it would not be, to write new nerf threads every day, or lying right out, or exaggerating about killer/abilities - it would be to talk about killer/abilities from a serious standpoint out.
The same btw. applies also to talks about potential survivor nerfs.
In the last days was here to see a great example of what I mean:
Some "hero survivor streamer" had made a video why Deathslinger is so terrible and many survivor mains have done everything to let the message of that video become a reality.
A few days after, a more common killer streamer made a video that found its way to this forums and immediately we have found survivor mains who tried to down play the video.
If those survivor mains would like to be taken serious, they would have act on the same way to the survivor video, as they did to the killer video.
That is just my 2 cents to it.
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It isn't toxic, but it is a wasted perk slot imo.
With noed, you have a perk that survivors can control - aka. doing totems.
I don't know how others see it, but no matter how good a perk is - I perfer perks on what I can count in certain situations.
The simple fact that survivors can take this perk out to any time - if they want - makes it unattractive for me.
Edit: Also, yeah... What @NursesBootie says is also a bit of my opinion, I just tried not to be rude :)
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@Justalittlepeeck said:
Title.
I've running that perk for like 50 games and this is just amazing:
- It counters BBQ counters.
- It counters head on, not fully but it creates huge threat to them and they will have to choose very good moment to Head On you if they don't want to get instadowned.
- It counters Inner strength&DS bitches who hop into locker, while threatening you with DS and Head On, then pop out healthy. NOT TODAY, GET DOWNED.
- It makes jumping into locker to avoid Chainsaw/Blink a literal death sentence to survivor, bc they just get 15 seconds of exposed and get smacked.
- It makes stealthy cowards` lives harder. Way harder.
- No more locker jumps midchase
Great perk. I'm glad it's not used very often, so survivors rarely expect that to happen and just get lost.
Amen brother.
Especially since survivors who try to hold a game hostage either love areas around gates or... lockers!
But we can be happy that this perk is not loved and swim into the unknown murky water until we rush up and hit our victim (sorry I have watch Meg for a few minutes again :|).
But this line fits still to Iron Maiden, if used correctly^^.
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They have just panic nerf the Legion. That is why.
That said, the old blood bags were a good thing, that the Legion had before imo.
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Well Deathslinger is still young. I still think that it is possible, that he will be nerfed. I just hope, that he afterwards not gets a stun after evey action of him.
It would not be the first time, that they nerf something months after the release.
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You could have nothing done against this team.
They were too much boosted by their microphones and the ton of second chances perks.
But imo, you should never lay a trap if someone is watching you. Especially a swf because of the microphone thing. They will just disarm it to get a few points and you get nothing out of it.
Besides that, I would just have 1 bring in the basement and then on the upper level defend the shack at all costs, because I wouldn't have known what to do besides that against survivors that are watching every step of me, while they additionally also carry so many second chances perk. Luckily I run not often in such teams.
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@dugman said:
Actually you can tell from the changes they made to Hillbilly between when they first implemented the overheat mechanic on the PTB to when it went live and then changed again they were paying attention to feedback and data on that new mechanic. What they don’t presumably do though is prioritize their changes based on forum threads or necessarily agree with a loud vocal minority of players in the forums on certain things.
For instance, Monstrous Shrine is mentioned in the original post and I totally agree that perk is garbage, I’d love to see it and some other underused perks get a buff. But I’m not on the development team and I have no idea what other things they have in the pipeline that the unit who would have build and test a new version of that perk have on their plate. It’s quite possible that revamping an old underused perk like that isn’t worth being at a higher priority than having that team work on new perks for new characters. Even a simple numerical change needs programming and balance and qa testing before it could go live so maybe it’s just a matter of preferring to allocate that sort of time to the new characters and perks first and tweaking old perks as time might permit.
Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to see them spend a midchapter period doing a comprehensive pass on possibly tweaking and buffing all the perks and add-ons that are underused. But I’m not going to jump to the conclusion that the devs don’t “listen to feedback” just because they’re not doing it, for all I know there are higher priority items and some of the things I personally consider underpowered are actually not that bad when looked at in the actual game data.
They may prioritize nothing basing on social media activities, but imo they changing definitely things basing on vocal minorities in the forums.
Several nerfs and reworks, also the Legion rework, read like a love letter to those guys. They do sometimes something and sometimes step by step what these guys wanted.
In the last few months it has gone better, but if you play certain characters in this game, you still feel the influence from nerf threads in those forums and on other social media plattforms.
Survivors like Killers got nerfed after a swarm on nerf threads were on the forums and if you look in those threads... There were most of the times just 20-40 of the same people making one nerf thread after another. Great...
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@BigTimeGamer said:
Old Legion lasted around 5 months I believe, most games patch stuff like that within the week
Most games would also not have the Legion drastically changed as bhvr has did it.
They would have delete/change 3-5 addons and reduce/increase some values of his abilities.
God, looking back now, I wish they would have done that :(.
But somewhere by bhvr sits a guy who had thought "mhm... the Legion mains write what? Nah... let us forget what the players want, that spend most of their time with this characters and only think on the guys who spend almost no time with this characters". Because why not, I guess.
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I think Legion deservers more as any other killer else a power rework.
The players wanted always to have a multistabbing killer. That is something, the people by bhvr have never understand. Instead they were mad at their players that disliked to play this mend-spreading construct, they had first try to build with this killer.
Imo, they should finally get a bit self-esteem and accept what the people like to have, instead of pushing something what the old Legion mains never wanted to have.
After that, addons should be adjusted carefully and I mean here really carefully.
Besides that, Clown, Meyers and Trapper need multiple small patches imo. They should stay by their style, but some tiny changes could make a world for them.
By the nurse should the devs maybe ask themselves, if they have it not exaggerated with her basekit changes.
With the rest of the killer gang I am either happy, or have not play them.
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As would survivors less use those perks then. Good joke. There you have some false hope.
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@MeltingPenguins said:
You can blame survivors that can't accept defeat and have turned ds (often in combo with unbreakable etc) into a big middle finger towards killers who try to play fair.
It's once bitten twice shy.
And let's be real: There's too many brats that will mouth you off no matter what on either side.
You ignore the person who just got unhooked and ran right into you? they'll mock you for it or even complain you made them waste DS.
You bring a flashlight but don't use it? Instead of realising you don't use it, it gets used as justification for camping, tunneling and moris.
you can't do right, so why try, that seems to be the mentality.
And that won't change till brats like that have to face consequences for their actions.
Well, but they face consequences for their actions.
-Facecamping is boring. Imo to do it needs a really good justification for yourself, like having some ultra toxic guy for you.
-You lose the match (if the survivors are not stupid).
-Less bps, as if you would chase people in the same time, or kick gens.
If there is no good to understand justification, then someone needed really to let steam off, I guess :)
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If they know you, they may also believe to know which perks you will use and some of your perks are not loved by many killers.
May that is the reason. As a non facecamping killer I can only guess.
See it as the other side of the coin as would a survivor suicide on a hook. Facecamping = suiciding on a hook, because the player dislike something.
With that I don't wanna defend those 2 "tactics".
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@RizeAki said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1581455#Comment_1581455
honestly at that point if they are going in a locker they are 40m away so you won’t get the exposed but I guess it is a way to know where to go if they hide in lockers
That and you can open lockers faster, aka. waste not much time with them. That is especially a nice goody if you use no slow down perks.
I know that many see Iron maiden as a trash perk, but I love him.
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@RizeAki said:
I don’t know just seems like simple assumption based on teachable perks or just over used perks in general same can be done about the killer side you always have to assume their is bbq and hide in lockers even if it’s not there with something like spirit you assume they have stridor
I have watch this behavior several times by survivors.
As a non bbq using killer, I need to say - Iron maiden comes there in handy :D
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@milwaukee354 said:
I was speaking from a perspective of watching other people play I've watched a few videos since I've made that last comment and think i might have jumped the gun but I think you're a little to butt hurt are you ok grammar police lol
Well, imagine you would like to read a text like yours...
How would you prefer to read it? With, or without paragraphs?
I think that has nothing to do with being "the gramma police". It has more to do with that you force a wall of text on the people, that is hard to read because of the non existing paragraphs.
Most negative comments are exaggerating, but this is it not and also: Where is the problem to press sometimes the return key? Is your keyboard damaged? I don't think so.
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Please take an example on so many other people here in this forums and press from time to time return, after you have write something.
Like Mekochi as example.
This wall of text is for my half asleep status at the moment just too much :).