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Matchmaking system is not the same as Survivor pipping system
What that still means is there isnt enough Red Rank Survivors
So your thread is entirely pointless, as you believe that to be the pipping system at fault and you want to revert it back.
The solution would be to make pipping for survivors easier, not the other way around like you suggested, twisted
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@Milkymalk said:
Just to support what I am saying: Had another game like that just now.
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"2% Survivor found"??? At 3 kills, I am only awarded 2%? 17% Survivors hit? What else am I to do, let them escape and catch them again just so I get the % to pip? The game is basically telling me, "You did what you needed to win, but that's not what I expect you to do. No cookie for you."
Thats your problem, you played Trapper, who is one of the weakest killer in game that the devs refused to buff his base kits, its the same with Freddy, if you play those its very hard to pip. Also you killed them way too fast, meaning you dont have enough chase emblem
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@xility said:
Ranking/pipping for killer is a mess!! Its too stressful for killers to care anymore; even by seeing the tweak for survivors with the new update it strikes upset that killers were not included.
People believe ranking for killer is easy, well its not. The people that say that are in the low ranks and not red. The amount you have to do to remain rank 1 is such a chore and penalises you for doing good. I just am losing a lot of faith in this game and come in a few days time when rank reset happens, well...I believe crap will hit the fan all over this forum.
It is easy, you are just bad or you are playing Trapper/ Pig/ Leatherface
Play Legion, don't tunnel anyne, don't use moonwalk, you will get a pip easily even without killing 1 survivor, it's a fact
other killers like Billy, Nurse etc, if you are good killer you would have no issue pipping, the new system is hard for survivors, but not killers. if you are having trouble as killer you are a BAD killer
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It's the other way around
We are lacking survivors at high rank while there is too many killers
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See more and more no skilled killers playing this game
its already too easy as killer to pip as long as you are a decent killer. if you are crap at playing Killer nothing we do can fix it, you are just bad
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No ranking rewards nothing, no point being in high rank
I had to derank myself to enjoy the game
Devs promised ranking rewards since launch, 3 years now
Identity V had them on launch and its a mobile DBD game...
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Even playing bad i am bound to reach High Rank eventually
the only solution right now is DC
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No
Then they just injured for the whole trial
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currently the amount of red rank survivors is too low. I had to literally derank myself back to rank 5-10 just to get games by DC nonstop
Even Tru3ta1ent had to DC to derank as well
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People need to understand MOM requires 3 hits, which means in a nutshell most of the time the perk can only activate once during a Trial.
6 hits = The survivor is dead already, and it required the survivor being on the hook once in order to activate it.
Also if the survivor gets grabbed, hit by a power then the perk is completely useless
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Freddy, Leatherface, Pig, because they are the weakest Killers beside Trapper
and the Devs have no plans of buffing them
Freddy's buff? Yeah it will take 2 years
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The meta of NOED has begin, NOED right out counters MOM
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Yes, ranking as Survivors is too hard right now, especially for Solo
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@[Deleted User] said:
-It's too easy to rank up, there are survivors who don't belong in this rank.
-There aren't survivors in this rank, so I can't get games!
Funny how that works.
I know lol. Now it backfired. I also had to DC nonstop now just to play Killers again, no one would want to wait 20-30 minutes for a match
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@Carpemortum said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/408276#Comment_408276
Even with that, the point remains he intentionally dcs to purposefully de rank. That is literally exploiting the system in place for his benefit.
While also getting him (the good killer) lower skilled opponents as an "unintended" side effect.
While its wrong, I keep seeing survivors with rank 1-5, queue with their Rank 20 friends/ alt accounts. So they will get in a queue against Rank 18-20 Killers. Which is worst you think?
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@DwightsLifeMatters said:
I just checked one of his recent killer gameplay. He plays normal and then DCs at the end
Yep I just clip this, he DC intentionally due to 30 minute queue at Rank 1. Everything he said is true, its too easy to rank up as Killer (If you're a good Killer like Tru)
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Trapper should have 2 default traps in his hands by default
As of now hes forced to use one addons for Trapper bags or he has to waste so much time going around = Gens gets done
The devs sadly did not understand this, no one plays him on high rank
Now that new killers like Plague has been released its clearly they are better than Trapper by miles without wasting time finding traps like trapper
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@Kamikaze_Rose said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/407480#Comment_407480
Nowhere did Tru3 say he would derank by dc'ing. That's everyone applying their own assumptions onto the deranking statement. There are other ways to derank--in fact, with this pipping change, all you have to do is play casually and you're guaranteed a down-pip.
No, as Killer it is easy to Rank Up. I play as Legion, did nothing but chases one person all game, hits others when I get the chance and I still get Safely Pip most of the time, you have to be literally playing one of the worst Killers (Freddy, Leatherface), avoid hooking too much, get Pellet-looped for the whole game to get a De-pip
Meanwhile while I am playing bad, I get survivors posting on my steam profile saying im a Trash Killer, despite the fact that i am losing intentionally, hence its just better to DC most of the time
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Yep I also have started to DC now since it is the only way to Derank, even playing bad I get safely pip as Killer, its a joke the current system
not to mention I get no rewards being at Rank 1 and gets punished with High Queue Time
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Now we have to wait 1.5 years for the devs to buff him
Despite small buffs like changing enter dream from from 7 sec to 4 sec would be fine and require no effort
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Its good if its Decline, in Rank 1 queue is way too long.
Less Killers the better
I am a killer main
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@yeet said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/405945#Comment_405945
strange, i could have sworn i was getting basically instant killer queues while my survivor queues were hitting close to 10 minutes
i must just be crazy!
Whats ur rank now and region?
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@ShirtlessDwight said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/405496#Comment_405496
pff and you can still lobby dodge right? To the point that I will get black screen bug and have to reboot the game after getting dodged for 10 times in a row
i never dodge lobbies since i know the pain of waiting as SWF. if i know im going to lose i try to farm as much points as possible
i even made threads proposing 15 min time out for ppl who dodge lobbies
People block me cuz im good good as killer, or when i try to play Nurse/ Legion and they automatically think im legion/ nurse main since i play all killers
Judging from your response u are one of those MLGA abusers i assume?
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@yeet said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/405739#Comment_405739
if you think killers are OP then you should legitimately just uninstall the game
what a joke
Queue time as Rank 1 as Killer is insanely long, reason being no survivors willing to play at Rank 1. Hence Survivors needs more power, more power - less queue time for us Killers
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Wait 1.5 years for them to Fix Freddy
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You are doing it wrong. You are not meant to heal against the Legion
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@Andreyu44 said:
I didnt understand what you said,can you post this one more time? Thanks.
He spawned almost right next to Ruin
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@Raptorrotas said:
You guys defending the perk are aware that its currently not working against blink hits because of a bug, right?
This means the devs are planning to or actively fixing that...
This means that Blink hit, lethal blink, surprise attacks, phantasm hits, dream chaser, grudge hits (spirit), willmprobably all count for MoM tokens.
Basically all abilities thast rely on M1 attacks to deal damage will be affected.
The only things im unsure about are Ambush, Hatchets and Feral Frenzy.
So the only killers capable of reliably NOT triggering MoM would be the chainsaw bros and plague if survivors are dumb. So much for counterplay.
Yeah we know, but you see on these forum posts. Since it was bugged, yet a ridiculous amount of killer mains said they quit the game, stopped playing, etc. When it was bugged and not fixed. Meaning a majority of killers can in fact deal with MOM, and they act like its the end of the world
Which means these people fail to adapt, and proceed to blame it on everything else
Legion have no issues with MOM, since its a one hit kill but with a timer
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Good good as a Killer = Blocked
Playing as Legion = Blocked
Playing as Nurse - Blocked
DBD in a nutshell
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It's normal. once ppl start playing, they become competitive.
new players will kept turn into competitive players, rest will rage quit/ stopped playing
High rank there is no variety, because devs refused to buff other killers and failed to see why killers like trapper, pig is still bad
it took them almost 1.5 years just to buff Wraith, Hag
now we need to wait 1.5 years for them to buff Leatherface, Freddy
and now we have to wait 1.5 years for rework legion,
when Dedicated server finally comes. a declined of 30% more players is expected, because MLGA will end up dead, and ppl can no longer block killers they dont like cuz they are too good
Devs did absolutely nothing to stop MLGA, and ppl still abuse it till this day since its not bannable
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Sounds BS, especially when most ppl i fight are 3-4 man SWF, explain to me why it still happen if what u wrote is true
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Nope, u blocked it so the person on the hook dies.
If u blocked it to troll or hold them hostage its bannable
if u blocked it to kill people its not bannable
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@OrionsFury4789 said:
I personally feel like the only thing that needs reworked is to make MoM not work with Freddy, I mean the dude is already so weak and now if there are 4 MoM in a match he might as well go cry in the corner until everyone leaves
Yes, Freddy is one of the very few that is already extremely weak, and this made him weaker
It takes almost a year just to buff one Killer aka Hag, while Trapper is still trash
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@OrionsFury4789 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/403500#Comment_403500
@DocOctober I feel like the perk is fine where it's a one time deal and it's done, I personally haven't had a problem with it playing killer but I understand the frustration people have with it honestly I think a new killer perk in the same sense as MoM would calm alot of these people down
"When you use your power to attack a survivor 3 times, the next basic attack you use will be an insta down" also we could make it work with Freddy even though he's a m1 just to give him an extra edge he needs. My theory on why this is a good idea is because it will teach the killer to become more skilled at attacking with their power than to rely solely on m1 attacks and the perk itself encourages a play style that could directly counter MoM if used properly and I'm talking wraith uncloaked attacks affecting this, hag post Phantasm, spirit post phase , trappers trap etc.... And then the insta down will negate MoM if they are healed up, just a thought though of course
Exactly, the perk is fine, when its used 4 times = Yes its a problem, its SWF the problem not the perk
@Plu said:
MoM by itself is fine, is when it's stacked 4 times in the same match then it becomes stupidly borked against M1 killers, i don't know how people fail to realise it?
In fact it's not even just broken against M1 ones, it can be used to tank hits against any killers while bodyblocking them when going to hooks, wich again is bonkers in a "time based" game like DBD where time management and wasting others matters.
Also stop saying "Adapt", Playing a killer like Billy just to bypass one perk that some others can't is not adapting, it's just playing some other killers, you can't really "adapt" to it if you play a M1 based killer (Addons don't count because they are used after the trial and you need to buy them again).
Same point as well, SWF is the problem, not the Perk
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@[Deleted User] said:
@Someissues what killer do you main?
[before i speak. i'm a survivor main]
the new DS can be simply countered by not tunneling or waiting a bit after downing the target.
but for me. it need a bit of a balance.
tell me what do you think about it
- if you're the killer's obsession. the DS timer is increased to 60/70/80 Seconds.
- if you're not the killer's obsession. the stun duration is reduced to 4 seconds.
this will help survivors who get tunneled because of dying light. or something else.
also will tell the killer " if you tunneled the obsession. you'll have to waste a longer time slugging to avoid DS and get stunned 1 second longer. so you better stop tunneling. "
and about MoM. for me. i think it's fine. because you need 3 hits. and there's some killers like the nurse. won't even give you a single stack in the whole match.
also i tried it for something like 30 matches now.
and what i discovered is that
1- you won't be able to use it that much. sometimes you'll escape/die without even completing the stacks.
2- once you complete the 3 stacks. the perk will activate and you will get the endurance effect. (not 100% sure about this one. i'll test it later in kyf)but if the killer didn't hit u and you fully healed. your aura will still be revealed to the killer when he's more than 16 meters away. and an insta down or exposed hit won't activate the perk. because " injured to down. " not just down.
I don't main anyone atm, I used to main Nurse but it was really boring after playing her every game due to people pellet looping and wasting too much time. I play random killers nowadays and gets blocked by MLGA for occasionally playing Legion/ Nurse
Your idea of DS does sounds nice, it would promote less camping
@Anti051 said:
Four survivors running mettle of man in it's current state sounds like it could get a little insane.
It's a SWF problem, not the perk
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@Eninya said:
Build-A-Bear bringing you with a bigger, better DS through MoM. No skill check needed!
Ironically, the counter to MoM would be camping. Can't use MoM if you never reach 3 hits.
Yes, there is also Insidious perk that can counter to this. As well as Nurse blinking directly to the Hook, setting traps up etc. Only Killers that would have trouble with this is Freddy, so its not like its 10-11 killers that would have trouble with this, people are exaggerating
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@Master said:
Glad to here that more killers are resigning. I hope the queue time will skyrocket
Same, too many killers increasing the queue time for us all
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@DocOctober said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/403536#Comment_403536
There's no adapting to MoM. 10-11 Killers out 15 cannot counter it unless they run very specific Perks with very specific and situational proc requirements or run non-sustainable Ultra Rare Add-ons as soon as it's fixed.
That is not acceptable.
Im getting blocked just because I happen to play Legion / Nurse from time to time and gets punished for it. Now with Survivors getting a new light they will have less chance of DC/ shitpost on my profile on steam.
People need to wake up and see that this is not as overpowered as they think to be. Look if its an issue with 4 ppl are running it then SWF is the problem, not the PERK
There is adapting to MoM, as I said the chase only extends up to 10-20 seconds more, Killers who can't deal with this are just bad killers. It's already easy as hell to get 2 pips and i get 3/4 kills most of the time. unless against very exp group then i get 1-2 kills.
No ultrare is needed, Killers like Myer will still work with default power, Wraith has his power to keep up with the chase. etc
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Here is my proof as Killer main that I only play Killer, I hate playing Survivor (Used to on launch but never again after I lost my savefile. People are not adapting to the new meta
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As you can see I only play Killer and Prestige every killer to P3 except Plague
@DocOctober said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/403517#Comment_403517
That's absolutely not the point. It is not acceptable that 10-11 Killers will be required to run very specific Perks all the time to counter a single Survivor Perk that will be meta.
And News-flash, for Devour Hope to reach 3 Tokens, you need 3 Hooks and also hope that the Totem won't be destroyed beforehand.
Your argument is utterly ludicrous. Same for @Dabrownman1812 : your solutions are not sustainable.
People are just not adapting to the new strategy, with Trapper all you need is small game and you'll counter him. Hag is the same, Nurse Dead Hard plus MOM when fixed soon. There are plenty of options, people just need to wake up and stop complain about everything
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I will show proof that I am a Killer main in a sec
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@DocOctober said:
So you consider 10 out of 15 Killers not able to avoid MoM unless they run 4 specific Perks and hope that they'll proc as completely fine?
The Survivor bias reeks 10 miles upwind.
I play all Killers, there are perks and builds to counter MOM. if you suspects survivors is a SWF troll group equip the right perks and killer to counter MOM. It's overrated. and Yes i have fought against SWF that have ran it in Red Ranks
@ricardo said:
''if you are playing the one-hit kill killers this is not an issue''
Thats literally the issue lol, i also dont mind MoM since im only playing nurse and legion but there are people who enjoy playing m1 killers like freddy,wraith,hag etc. This perk forces them to play killers who ignore MoM. Dont you think thats an issue ?
Not true, it only extends the chase for 10-20 seconds, its literally a borror time v2, this is the same thing with Freddy's release where everyone thinks hes OP, if this perk gets nerf it will turn into trash and no one will use it anymore
As of now it is in a good balance. This is a good perk in the sense where it punish camping, which is the answer survivors have been asking for, so once you hook someone you move onto the next
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No one will miss you, Myer is in fact one of the killers that can counter this perk, builds up Evil 3 then you one shot
Refusing to adapt and learn = Just a bad killer
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No one would ever play him if that's the case
They would have to refund everyone who bought the DLC if that happen
That's not repair, its killing a character
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@Peanits said:
Everything should be back up and running now, hopefully you'll be able to get into the game.
Yea thanks everyone and mods!
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its too easy to rank up atm as Killer, it needs to be harder
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They need to make it harder for Killers to rank up. It's way too easy at this point compared to survivors
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Please fix BHVR
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Its ridiculously easy as kIller to pip. its too easy, they need to make it harder
Survivor to get pips is way harder than Killer
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I just derank myself to enjoy the game. I don't like the fact that we are all forced to play at high ranks the more u play