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They really should just open matchmaking completely. No MMRs, no ranks, just pit people against random people with the only filter being regional locations.
Sometimes you'll face good killers/survivors, sometimes you'll face potatoes. Who cares? It's a party game for god sake.
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Improving game health doesn't make them money. Or at least not the money cosmetics and consistently pushed out broken DLC updates do.
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I lost my legacy back in the day.
And no, I don't want people who didn't earn it to get it. Screw that.
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NOED is fine how it is, though.
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@Mooks said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1496261#Comment_1496261
I‘ll call BS on your observed experiments. And nobody cares about some streamer or whoever that is saying something.
Nobody cares about EdgarAllenBro? Former Fog Whisperer?
kk
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@ElusivePukka said:
Even coordination will result in a trade with experienced killers - I don't care how good survivors are.
Again, though, rushing gens just isn't a thing most of the time. Trying to push that it is just makes someone daft, not valuable to the conversation.
This coming from a guy who called NOED, the most counter-able perk in the game, some sort of "safety net" for killers, condemning killers for using it; when it's their one, real "safety net" perk compared to the countless ones survivors have.
You're coming off as a troll. There's no other explanation. You're just an attempt at an elaborate troll.
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Camping has multiple perks to punish the killer doing it.
Borrowed Time
Kindred
DS
etc
The game already actively punishes killers the longer they are near a hooked survivor.
@ElusivePukka said:
Don't get me started on NOED.
It's so pathetic seeing even survivors saying "just do bones" while my fellow killers stagnate with such a bullshit safety net to boost them.
Decisive Strike, Borrowed Time, Dead Hard (all exhaustion perks, really), Unbreakable, Deliverance, Styptics etc.
Killers have NOED. The most counterable perk in the game. That's their one, real safety net compared to the 90489485948545894859845948594854985489548959845894895489548954984589589489548954897589458949598459489598498589485949859848954985984985489598498589489548959845994889039043093423049540657845677439 safety nets survivors have.
@ClickyClicky said:
“iTs a LeGiT sTrATeGy”
Really reworking NOED would be the best. All campers have it. Making them realize they need to make an effort during the game rather than camp may provoke some of them into trying harder.
Camp and NOED will often grant 2kills at least. You shouldn’t get that for a zero effort playstyle
It is a legitimate strategy. As stated verbatim by the devs. Being legitimate however, does not make it a good strategy. It's punishable by survivors if the survivors aren't pepegas.
@Orion said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1496587#Comment_1496587
They'd get almost no BP or pips if survivors would stop feeding them.
This.
@Orion said:
Rush gens, leave campers with no BP and no pips. Camping addressed.
And this.
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@LeaderoftheSaints said:
Am i the only one not looking forward to cross play when it first launches. Imagine the bugs
Story of BHVR right there.
"Am I the only one not looking forward to *insert patch here* when it first launches? Imagine the bugs."
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@Xbob42 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1496394#Comment_1496394
Err, I have no comment on your other statements, but FPS absolutely matters. If you think it doesn't, cap your FPS to 5 and get back to me on how good you're doing. While there are some diminishing returns the higher your FPS gets, there's a reason pro players of games will lower settings and resolutions to absolutely get insane FPS. It minimizes input latency and gives dramatically increased temporal resolution. That is to say that the information you get per second is far greater.
A simple example that anyone can relate to is a hatchet throw from the Huntress. If you have a low FPS, you have less time to react because the animation plays out based on time, not on frame rate. So if you had 30 FPS, you have half the time and visual information to react as someone who's at 60. You'll potentially see the hatchet "thrown" after it's already in the air, and its trajectory will be more choppy and less smooth. This applies to every action and movement in the game. All of this also applies to the Huntress trying to aim at you while your movement is all choppy and updated less frequently.
Toss hitching and stuttering that the consoles get on top of that and it's like shooting fish in a barrel.
You could argue that since DBD isn't a twitch shooter like Call of Duty that it's not quite as important, and that's true, but not so true that you don't still gain a huge advantage by seeing smoother, more reliable information and being able to react more quickly, with less input lag. The higher the tier of skill you are, the more this stuff REALLY matters.
That said, for the average DBD player on console or PC, it probably won't really matter all that much because I assume most people play for fun instead of getting top-tier ubersweaty. But if you're talking competitive, that FPS matters tremendously.
For what it's worth, all platforms have stutters and hitches right now after the recent update.
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@Toybasher said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1496354#Comment_1496354
I play on PC and dabbled on the base-PS4 version.
PC players 100% have some advantages over console. At least on a non-pro PS4 the game hitches when status effects come up (like the killer whacks a dude with NOED or you got exhausted from dead hard).
FPS is really wonky. It's significantly easier to play with a mouse and keyboard when it comes to stuff like sniping people with deathslinger, trying to track a 360, etc.
And console vs PC nurse.
Basically if survivors are going up against a PC killer many of the tricks that'll work on a console killer won't work as well vs a PC killer and vise-versa. (PC survivors will be able to easily bully console killers, etc.)
I don't think it will ruin the game, but the lack of optimization on console combined with the upcoming graphics update likely will hurt performance even more, and it's something to look into.
FPS is FPS. It doesn't really matter if that's the FPS you're used to. It's purely subjective.
"console vs PC nurse" is a nonsense argument. You don't have killer vs killer rounds, so it's irrelevant.
What "tricks" that work on console" won't work on PC killers?
How will PC survivors in any way have an advantage and be able to bully console killers? Controller survivors are in no way limited over mouse/keyboard survivors.
The only thing you have even remotely going for your standpoint is the optimization part, but thats not a PC problem. That's a BHVR problem.
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@RavenTufty said:
Crossplatforming with PC will literally ruin the game. At least make it an option to turn crossplatforming off.
There will be an option to turn it off. But how will it ruin the game, exactly?
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Typical BHVR.
10 million copies sold and they're still coding it like it hasn't hit it's projected sales of 200k.
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You act like killers are using mori's every match.
Tell me, if killer mains use them every match, how do they have hoards of them in their inventories?
Spoiler: They don't use them every match.
I'll come across maybe 2 mori's a day when I play.
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@BigTimeGamer said:
I know you said not to say it but, whats wrong with just closing chat and moving to next game?
Agreed. I haven't looked at post game chat in months, lol.
@Peanits said:
Just to make one thing clear, we already have zero tolerance for extreme insults (e.g. racism, homophobic slurs, telling people to kill themselves, etc.). These people do not get warnings, they are banned without any hesitation. We have always acted on these sorts of reports. The issue is more so that there is no feedback on the reporter's side when action is taken: You don't get a message in-game letting you know that someone you've reported was banned.
Odds are if you've reported someone for that sort of thing, they were most likely banned shortly after.
I'll call BS on that one. I've seen people conduct experiments on alt accounts, and nothing has ever happened to them after countless reports.
Even EdgarAllenBro has outright said "you can pretty much do whatever you want, just don't DC from their game".
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@JacksonWise said:
What exactly makes it worthy of being a Legendary skin? It has no unique animations or sounds and his appearance changes very little between normal mode and demon mode (the least difference of any of his skins, actually). I was really hoping he would get a uniquely designed Kanabo, but I'm disappointed to see it is the same as the rest.
I can understand more of why Lisa Garland was made a legendary because she is a completely different character and at least has a different lobby pose than Cheryl. But I can't see what makes the Oni worth the extra 500 cells. I think it should have been a very rare set.
Right?
This is just another shameless money grab.
Like, for 1,080 AC, maybe I could understand...but it's not licensed, and what exactly makes it "legendary" enough to charge THAT much for a god damn skin?
This kind of ######### is proof that BHVR doesn't give a crap about game health.
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@[Deleted User] said:
Hag, Nurse, Spirit. That's about it.
Trapper to an extent as well - he get shut down the upstairs windows pretty well.
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@greekfire774 said:
That comment also rubs me the wrong way. "We never intended". Why didnt you test them thoroughly before implementing them into your game? Was it just a last minute "oh you know what would be cool" and then y'all coded it without ever loading into a lobby? Just revert your changes until you can have a version that is actually tested and proven to be a viable new system.
Yep; and you know what happens when people try to hold BHVR accountable? One of two things, either they get banned or the white knights come out.
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@chase131119 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1493356#Comment_1493356
Survivors need it as well lol
That's only half true. Killers need it to actually see generator auras. It's literally part of their ability to patrol gens.
Survivors can actually survive without it most of the time, especially if they are SWF.
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@Huff said:
To be honest the whole "we never intended to significantly change the way auras look" thing kind of rubs me the wrong way...
Are we supposed to believe that nobody noticed this during testing? Or, perhaps, that these features aren't tested? I find either one kind of hard to believe.
I'm right there with you. With the state *every single DBD patch* releases in, it's hard to believe that this QA team even exists like they say it does. It almost seems like a bold faced lie. If the QA team DOES exist, how they aren't fired at this point is a mystery...and if they ARE reporting these issues and they just simply choose to push the update in that state, that's just an ethics issue all by itself.
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@ClickyClicky said:
Marth was right. Its all about mobile now. PC version is being left behind.
Marth also says spatial sound, surround sound headphones, and good sound cards are "cheating".
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@ClickyClicky said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1493548#Comment_1493548
I mean you do keep quoting me in every thread making the same point about Hillbilly.
Newsflash: It’s called an opinion. Get over it.
Other people are calling you out and quoting you too, yet you're only coming down on me for it. I'd say you're the one harassing and stalking me, my dude. It's kind of creepy.
Newsflash: It's called a discussion forum. Get over it.
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@ClickyClicky said:
Its called balance
Coming from a guy who thought Billy's basekit was overpowered somehow, I don't think you're that much of an authority on balance.
@ShrekTheThird69 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1486478#Comment_1486478
This guy is a bait poster. Notice how he goes into threads says something controversial and then leaves without actually applying creative criticism.
Unfortunately. Then when people criticize their views, they say they are stalking them.
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@Ghouled_Mojo said:
I’m guessing no one likes the auras at all then? I kinda like them. Guess I’m the only one. I’m always the oddball.
I like how they look (or at least how I think they are supposed to look). I enjoy that they are almost a wireframe of the objects they're supposed to represent. The issue is they are not visible enough - and because they are such a crucial part of the game, that's a huge issue. A colorblind person will literally be able to see nothing.
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"No ETA" they said. So, expect a fix by Q1 2028.
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@ClickyClicky said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1493235#Comment_1493235
Why are you so salty and stalking me around the forums with a vendetta?
Get a grip. Upset over a disagreement on a videogame forum from over 24 hours lmao
All your posts hold some sort of disdain for the game, but your opinions are so out there, and it's so easy to put you in your place that I feel the need to say something whenever I see a post of yours in a thread I happen to be reading. I don't go out of my way to look for your content. Don't flatter yourself. You're not that important.
I'm not stalking. I'll be reading a thread, and see something that I feel like I can reply to. If you don't want people replying, perhaps signing up for an account on a discussion forum was a mistake on your part? I don't know. Maybe don't post if you don't want people replying.
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@baseballfan4877 said:
Even new, terrible survivors spam tbag/point cause a youtuber was doing it and they thought it was funny. It's not funny it deters so many new players/killers from playing cause it's not longer fun. It is just rage inducing. It literally only spreads more toxicity. It would easily turn a sportsmanlike killer into a tunneling/camping player.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that if you or anyone else is that put off by in game emotes and people hitting the CTRL key, perhaps Dead by Daylight, video games outside of Super Mario, and the internet in general aren't for you.
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@ClickyClicky said:
I just laugh it off and realize what a stupid joke this game is. Thats what the streamers do, they realize its futile to take all the garbage in this game seriously
This coming from a survivor who just lost because some coward didnt want to do the last gen and used a key to get out without even trying to let anyone else tag along.
"I realize what a stupid joke this game is".
Look at this guy on a forum for a game he supposedly despises, yet can't stop discussing. Sounds big mad.
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Ban survivors that farm their team mates and AFK on gens.
Since killers can't disconnect from the game without consequences when a group of survivors decides to genrush, making it impossible for them to play the video game, or decides to throw the game, resulting in a black pip at best for the killer without the intent on trying, they should be able to discourage this type of behavior by making it bannable.
See how stupid that sounds?
What you're essentially doing is saying "Ban killers for creating map pressure by temporarily incapacitating a survivor".
As far as farming is concerned, farming is generally frowned upon, but it's allowed as long as they aren't forcing anyone to farm. If they force you to farm, then it's bannable.
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@seki23 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1493185#Comment_1493185
it wanst the old way by reading the notepad or so was with an exe, is a new form.
edit: but i can ask i guess, he erased the program but he knows the name and how to get it. so i may ask he may try or not.
They encrypted the log file. In an update, again literally two days ago.
You can't do it with notepad or one of those programs anymore.
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@seki23 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1493167#Comment_1493167
they didnt, is still working. and i know it because i saw it due a friend who used it, i would never said who he is especially when he didnt even send me pictures but somehow he knew wich killer we were going agaisnt 5 times in a row, or he is very good at doing 1/20 (20 killers very lucky) or he was hacking he told me he just wanted to try the program and he erased it because he knew was unfair, so he is no longer using it anymore. IS STILL WORKING after piramid head, and lots of people are using it somehow BHVR doesnt know.
It was working since Pyramidhead.
They literally patched it 2 days ago.
It doesn't work.
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@SavouryRain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1493138#Comment_1493138
So you're complaining that it's BHVR's fault that people are cheating?
Also, supposedly they fixed that in the new update.
They did fix it, yes.
Also - t's fair to blame BHVR for that one. They left the information in LITERAL plain text in the appdata folders. That was as much a screw up on their part as it was people cheating.
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Nothing of note, really; and no they aren't entitled to automatic pips etc if a killer DCs. Survivors don't lose pips, or bloodpoints if the killer DCs. They get everything they earned up until that point, and don't lose anything they already had.
When I play survivor, the only time (usually) I ever see a killer DC is if the survivors actually bring an offering for Ormond or Haddonfield. In which case, the survivors knew exactly what they were doing so they don't have any right to complain.
KILLER on the other hand...can flat out depip in red ranks if even on person DCs, cause that person just took away 3 hook events from the killer.
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"If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
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@LunarMess said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1492959#Comment_1492959
Hey what about nurse?
That was an "addon pass". According to the devs, anyway.
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I mean, you could argue they started this "rework approach" with Freddy, last year, and continued it with The Doctor, and kept going with Leatherface.
Good changes, IMO.
Making them powerful, but also not impossible to beat. IMO the reworks have been far better than the new killers they have brought in since they started reworking killers.
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@The_Bootie_Gorgon said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1492915#Comment_1492915
it's actually 75% of the playerbase because fact...
Blibbity hibbity bloobity bloop.
With the dow hop diddly doo shlappa clappa moffa woogly.
Shing shong, shamalama.
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It seems dumb at first - but with the new MMR coming out, killers will have their own individual MMR. Meaning, if you're a god tier Nurse, you'll go against people of similar MMR, but if you're just trying to learn say...Trapper for example, you won't be put against death squad survivors. In theory.
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I'll be okay with bloodlust getting nerfed/removed when maps like Ormond, Haddonpenis and Midwich don't exist in their current form, or maps like Torment Creek don't spawn a long wall next to an "i" loop next to shack, all in sequence.
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@Th3Nightmare said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1492773#Comment_1492773
Congratulation! Because more than half of the players do not win BP after a game.
Where is the statistical data to back up that statement?
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@JerFIL said:
Let's be honest, 60 seconds to pick up an item? 60 seconds it takes for the killer to hook me + save by my teammate, so goodbye item
"60 seconds to wait out DS? 60 seconds it takes for a generator to get done. Goodbye generator"
See? I can make silly complaints, too.
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@ClickyClicky said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1489440#Comment_1489440
A killer main defending what is statistically the most unbalanced map in the game. Why am I not surprised? It”s almost as if you have some kind of agenda 🤔
Its funny because I wasn’t even talking about the glaring unbalance. Its as dull as bricks as both survivor and killer. Once I can put up with it but if the game throws this trash at me 3 times in one night you best believe I’m either giving up on 1st hook as survivor or just facecamping as killer.
35 maps in the game and this one comes up more than any other map some nights. Yeah right. They need to fix their map selection.
I didn't defend it. I said I escape from it regularly.
You also thought Billy was OP in his base kit before the (barely) nerf. So I'd think twice before criticizing people when people with your flawed mindset are in the extreme minority.
Sit down.
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@Reinami said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1489440#Comment_1489440
Yeah, you actually can. That's what DC penalties are there to do, to punish you for not staying in the game. Every other multiplayer game not only punishes you for DCing or suicide (usually called feeding) or griefing etc. But they do so VERY harshly. Many games will suspend you from the game for several days or weeks for repeat offenders, moving up to permanent bans if people do it enough.
Why can't we do that here? You can't say "but you are forcing people to play a game they don't want to", because you are right, i am. You signed up to play a game of DBD the moment you hit that "ready" button. If you get into the match and you don't like how it's going, it doesn't mean you get to leave just because things aren't going your way.
And if someone full on DC's, they are penalized.
But if you're going to tell people that when they get hooked and see the rest of their team urban evading or self caring in a corner that they have stay and can't just die and move on to the next match? We're not your babysitter. We paid as much for the game as you did, and nobody but you owes you a good time for that money. Get off your high horse. You are wrong, you'll never be anything other than wrong in this. No matter how hard to try to justify your need for babysitters.
There is a difference between a DC and dying according to the rules of the game.
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1490403#Comment_1490403
Out of curiosity why would Stevie be blindfolded? Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't he blind anyway?
Exaggeration to illustrate a point. It's meant to convey that a Stevie Wonder who is somehow "even more blind" than currently already blind Stevie Wonder could see this issue within 10 seconds of playing.
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@Xbob42 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1490424#Comment_1490424
Can't counter? It's the easiest counter in the world: You're playing a team-based game with a team of other people. Intentionally ruining the game for them by quitting like a baby --by any means-- should result in punishment. Don't like it, don't quit. If you're such an incomprehensibly unhinged child that you can't put up with a match you don't find fun (a match you signed up for) for like 10-15 minutes then maybe this isn't the right game or genre of games for you. And the community would be drastically better off if all the quitters actually quit the game entirely rather than just whichever match they didn't deem personally acceptable.
And don't mic drop yourself, it's sad.
So, what you're saying is, I'm responsible for your fun.
I didn't know you needed a babysitter. ;)
Keep trying, duder. This is like a game of whack-a-mad-mole to me.
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@Xbob42 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1490411#Comment_1490411
Still nothing of value. You're arguing about me. Give me points beyond "because I shouldn't be 'forced' to!" -- because that's all I've seen, and that's not an argument.
It is an argument. One you can't counter. Proven by your foot stomping and curse laden responses.
(I normally wouldn't do this - but for your own sake, take a chill pill and come back when you're less abbrasive, angry and sarcastic - then I'll allow you to have a civil conversation. You have zero chance of looking good at the end of this with the road you're going down, lol)
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@Xbob42 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1490405#Comment_1490405
Still waiting for something relevant to the topic at hand.
And yes, thanks to events beyond just this game, the concept of a bunch of morons going "BUT I SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO WHATEVER I WANT WITHOUT CONSEQUENCE" is an especially annoying subject right now. I'm gonna need to see massively better arguments than that on this subject.
You're giving off a lot of negative, and authoritarian vibes, man.
So aggressive. You're clearly someone who doesn't want to have a conversation, being that you're coming from a place of anger. You hadn't even attempted to counter anything I said in this thread. All you've done is scream and stomp your feet like a child, and hurl curses and insults at me.
I'm sorry - you don't get to call me out for anything when you conduct yourself in that manner. You're just a terribly rude person. Poor guy.
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@Xbob42 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1490394#Comment_1490394
Yes yes, I used bad words and it let you make a completely irrelevant argument not based around the discussion at hand that you're convinced is a gotcha, keep pressing on that front because at least there's something resembling logic to that, unlike the manbaby muh-consitutional-rights-to-ruin-the-game-for-others angle.
Oh man, someone had a bit too much coffee today.
The only one behaving like a "manbaby", whatever that is, is you. Pushy, stomping your feet, saying "NO I DON WANNA!"
I'm sorry you're wrong, man.
Take a chill pill, my dude! :)
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@Gay Myers (Luzi) said:
It has been acknowledged here:
I think it's at this point we, once again, need to bring into question the competence of the QA team. You guys tell us this team exists, but if they did...things like this, that are glaringly obvious to the point where a blindfolded, deafened, stuck in a closet Stevie Wonder could see them...wouldn't be getting into the final version of the game.
And if they do report these issues and BHVR pushes the update anyway...well that's an ethics issue.
It's also a massive slap in the face that you guys re-enabled DC penalties before fixing this absolutely game breaking issue. Especially when you get a colorblind person who is given Ormond, and they literally can't see generator auras. Shame.
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@Xbob42 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1490389#Comment_1490389
Your other prerogative is to force-quit the game and then go cry on the forums about how your constitutional rights to ######### in a game because you were throwing a tantrum were violated by mechanics that actually encourage people to play the game and work with their team instead of being spoiled little children.
I didn't start this thread. I'm not the one crying.
Besides, anyone with a brain would look at your post, and mine - and it wouldn't be me crying. You're the one throwing an eTantrum.
Calm down, duder.
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@Xbob42 said:
Having penalties isn't "forcing" you to do anything you ######### entitled manbabies. If you don't like it, alt+f4 and eat the penalty like a grown goddamn adult and maybe don't play if you're gonna react like a child. "I should be able to do whatever I want without any consequences because I said so!" ######### off.
We're not referring to penalties forcing us. We're referring to the ability to die on hook being our own prerogative. Taking that away is effectively forcing you to stay in the game.
If we're going to call out people for acting like a child, read your post, study your conduct, and look in the mirror.
Okay, pumpkin?