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@Nazzzak said:
While fun in theory, there might be a downside. Killer nerfs are based on kill rates, and Legion mains are already experiencing lots of DCs and players letting go on hook. If people start doing this more often to get out of long games, it could artificially inflate kill rates and the killers get nerfed.
That's exactly what's going to happen. Already throw myself at Legion's because I don't wanna put myself through that. Legion mains are rejoicing now, but when Legion gets nerfed cuz nobody's playing games against them then it's gonna be a different conversation.
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@BrokenSouI said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3036610#Comment_3036610
Yea......Maybe read the perk we're talking about...? No one is saying about borrowed time
Off the Record is literally the perk I'm talking about. It's BT but it applies to yourself rather than relying on another survivor to have BT. Yeah 80 seconds or whatever is too long, but I don't think the endurance should be shafted altogether. I've been wanting "BT for myself" for months. I like running BT myself, but in solo queue you can't rely on other survivors to not just farm you off hook.
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@Adaez said:
Honestly I hate this perk both as survivor and killer.
I hate when survivors have that crutch perk that will make them lazy and never learn to play the game without crutching on perks.
Just remove the endurance overall,making it 60 seconds will mean nothing.
This perk is op even if it was just 15 seconds because its literally a self bt in case the survivor who unhooks you doesn't have bt.
Very bad change and I hope they remove the endurance ffect and give it something else.
This was supposed to be a stealth perk not make you godlike for 80 seconds unless the killer hits you.
I finally got the perk I've been wanting for months, if not years. "Borrowed Time, but for myself instead of having to rely on other survivors not to farm me." and now y'all already want it straight up gone? 15 seconds OP? My god bruh just don't tunnel lmao.
Just lower the numbers for crying out loud. Or buff BT and give me the perk I need. I'm sick of getting farmed and the 5 second endurance is not enough.
For so long I've been saying "BT is great and all, but I really wish the endurance applied to me as well so I wouldn't get farmed." and now I finally got it. But now a 15 second endurance off hook is OP. Just shoot me dead.
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@Ruma said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3035776#Comment_3035776
And thats why the game is so bad for most of the players.
Because people like you either DC or throw the game since you only care about YOUR fun.
I mean I spent money on the game. Gonna have fun lmao. Ah, yes, I miss when you could mess around and games and have a good time. Not DBD tho
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@Aneurysm said:
Remember the glory days
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/JDS3A024XWLX/rdt-20220630-0022533082026004687837516.jpg
We didn't realize how good we had it then
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@woundcowboy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3036419#Comment_3036419
Yea, everyone was probably good and running meta stuff. The game shouldn’t be balanced for people who don’t learn the game.
It shouldn't be balanced around "tournament" players either.
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"We realize killers are using too many gen regression perks- that should only be an option, so we're slowing gen speeds, nerfing BBQ, and giving them more annoying gen slowdown perks!"
"We realized survivors like running second chance perks and don't like being camped and tunneled. So we're going to throw in 1,000 endurance perks so you will never be tunneled again, but also, not do anything to stop face camping at all!"
It's not like BBQ was the only thing stopping killers from popping on a 4th slowdown perk or anything. Yeah, I'm really nervous for this update ngl.
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@Tsulan said:
You realize that the top Nurse players during tournaments barely get a 2k with NOED and camping against top survivor squads. Do you?
Tournaments lol.
When are y'all gonna realize that every player in the world isn't a tournament (can't even say it without laughing, sorry.) player.
So let me guess. That top tournament Nurse player was going against 4 other tournament survivors who were running full meta builds and were on comms? Right, right.
@Karao_Ke said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3036271#Comment_3036271
Meh, I think Blight is fine when compared to Nurse, a killer who can ignore the majority of DBD's game mechanics. Blight is a killer you can actually counter with something other than "be unpredictable".
If not for a couple of Blight's add-ons. He is actually one of the more fun killers to go against ngl. He's actually interactive in a way that can be fun.
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@Tsulan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3036373#Comment_3036373
But how many good nurses are really out there? She has the lowest kill rate of all killers for a reason.
You're right. Let's buff Nurse.
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@Grandpa_Crack_Pipe said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3036337#Comment_3036337
Quite frankly, i'd like to make it as difficult and grueling for you as humanly possible.
And nothing will change 🤷
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@Tsulan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3036358#Comment_3036358
If survivors spend a fraction of the time that nurse players use to become "unbeatable", to learn how to play against nurse. Then no one would see her as a problem.
Instead I get teammates that instantly disconnect or suicide against her.
Okay, but none of this changes the fact she's still busted lol. 3120 hours in DBD I feel like I've learned every "counter" to nurse. Lemme guess "Be unpredictable, double-back, break line of sight, use bloodeh ded 'ard!" Absolutely none of these things matter against a good nurse lol.
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@JudithMorel said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3036354#Comment_3036354
Improve? Nurse ignores every mechanic in the game there's only so much you can do.
Didn't you know? If you ✨i m p r o v e ✨ suddenly Nurse isn't a problem. No, I won't elaborate any further.
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If I can't give up on hook I'll just run at the killer or AFK. Play Uno on my phone until I'm out. Ppl who don't wanna play the game, won't. Whether it's inconvenient or not. I'm playing solo queue. If I'm doing all this work just to see the other survivors are doing nothing. Crouched up in a corner somewhere. Or it's a killer I genuinely hate going against (Legion, Nurse, etc.) Trust I'mma get outta that game one way or another.
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@Veinslay said:
Maybe you'd see more Ghostfaces and Trappers or something if they weren't getting teabagged and flashlight clicked the entire game because they're hilariously underpowered compared to Nurse and Blight. Survivors only want to play against a killer they can run for 5 gens, not one that can actually compete with 4 man SWF baby mode
@Zarathos said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3036184#Comment_3036184
So your saying you should be playing against mid range killers. The ones that get nearly infinite at the garden of joy map, haddonfield? The ones that waddle across rpd gigantic corridors. These maps don't even affect nurse they just screw over the weaker mid range killers. Nurse growing popularity is likely due to another map with awful design being added to the game. The map design team needs to cope on this is the third awful map design in a row. Think about it would you play a typical killer when the past few maps have been Gideon meat plant, garden of joy, eyrie of crows and rpd. Oh were also going to be getting hawkin's back if the leaks are to be believed so yay I guess. These maps aren't built for giving killers and survivors an equal chance loop wise. There obnoxious to traverse and absolutely obssessed with giving survivors a ridiculous number of safe pallets. Let not make another slinger incident please. Nurse will become way less of an issue if they stopped screwing every other killer in the game.
Y'all talking a whole lotta nothing like i do not care. I'm a solo queue player who throws games making self-care and bite the bullet plays so what's all that gotta do with me. Y'all find holding W and hiding behind tiles and hoping a nurse misses her blinks fun? Cuz that's all you can do.
@Johnny_XMan said:
Her nerf is coming. Do not worry.
If God is good it'll be sooner rather than later.
@GoshJosh said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3036107#Comment_3036107
At least I can heal against a Nurse. Plague disables an entire function in the game, like a third of survivor perks and medkits, and gets free health states just because of her basekit. Real neat!
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3036241#Comment_3036241
Source? She was already nerfed to be balanced years ago.
Nurse literally disables an entire function of the game with pallets tho. And despite her being "Nerfed for balance years ago." it's crazy how she's still not balanced.
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@Tsulan said:
So you've reached the mmr rating, where you only encounter nurse.
What exactly do you expect to encounter, if nurse gets actually nerfed? Just asking.
That's the thing, there's no way in hell my MMR is high enough to encounter nurse this often because I constantly throw games to meme around lol.
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@WeenieDog said:
speaking of dc's. I'm finding that a lot of people really hate Plague.
Yeah she's up there. Plague with Thana is as bad as Legion with Thana. Just kill me.
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DBD has gotten to the point in solo queue where I don't care about escaping I just wanna meme around and if it gets me killed early oh well. Gotta make the game fun myself otherwise it's a boring sweatfest.
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@TWiXT said:
Off the Record + DH + Styptic = 3 hits to keep survivors from going down all game long, 2 of which activate multiple times, and guarantees escape at endgame.
I don't think being a survivor "Going against Legion" is where the "misery" of this patch actually lies...
Literally both things are bad so what's ur point
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@HexPleaseLetMeSpeak said:
Excellent patch?
Bro they've made killer even more unplayable than before lmfao. Get ready for body block meta where it's gonna take 15 hits to get a single down. All they've done in the PTB is make camping and tunneling even MORE necessary than before. Literally 1 step forward 2 step backward.
(Also completely killed ruin and pop)
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3035513#Comment_3035513
Overcharge?????
"Also completely killed ruin and pop"
average killer main discovers what a meta shakeup is.
Also Pop wasn't even nerfed it's neutral change. They increased the amount of regression you get as soon as you kick a gen.
Regardless, Ruin and Pop were meta. The devs went through the most used perks and nerfed them. (Even if they were trash, looking at Self-Care.)
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Great, another perk that would've been great for solo queue that's going to inevitably get nerfed into the ground. Yayyy
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@HarlockTaliesin said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3035273#Comment_3035273
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3035299#Comment_3035299
So no change from current, then. Legion is the most annoying killer already. After the perk overhaul, it's not even a discussion. Suicide out and hop into a new trial that's almost guaranteed to be more fun, while giving them low BPs and pushing their MMR higher so they'll have to deal with SWF sweatlords faster. Win/win.
They were boring when they were "weak." They're boring now. And they're going to be even more boring after the mid-chapter patch.
I'm very concerned with how DBD is gonna feel from the survivor perspective after this update.
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After playing The Quarry I need every character to have 80s outfits. Men wearing crop tops and shorts desperately needs to come back into style.
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Already prepared for my MMR to plummet whenever I get Legion cuz I'm gonna throw every game. I already hate going against them.
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3021976#Comment_3021976
But now you get a sprint burst effect
So it's stronger
SPRINT BURST EFFECT?? Y'all gotta be trolling now I'm convinced.
@Tatt3dWon said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3021976#Comment_3021976
They want you to start the game on hook so they can just win without doing anything.
That part like I'm so confused like these ppl will complain about something, get what they want, then complain some more.
Literally 1 second of endurance. They can't bait out one single second of endurance it's crazy.
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@fulltonon said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3021976#Comment_3021976
They buffed that part by allowing survivors to move freely and giving them distance upon hit.
But then no way it can get to live servers anyway, we really don't need much concern.
It's literally one second of endurance with an animation y'all gotta stop being so dramatic lol
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Wasn't the issue Dead Harding for distance?? They literally got rid of that. What else do you want them to do?
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Just lower the Off the Record timer. It does not need a full rework.
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@TecmagDiams said:
Bumping this thread because man do I agree! She's thee most popular survivor, and previous years ALL original characters got crowns, where the heck is this queen's mask!?!?
Finally someone with taste thank you! Making us wait until next year's anniversary for Claudette to get a mask is actually evil.
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Imagine if BHVR put in effort and actually gave us a unique cosmetic for the survivors and killers we spent millions of bloodpoints to prestige 3.
But, I mean come on...this is BHVR we're talking about.
I would have loved to have an alternate version of the P3 cosmetics. Maybe the blood being a different color, or even glowing would be sick. But yay, we have an icon in the endgame screen that 80% of players are going to skip over. Yayyyy.
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@TheSubstitute said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3021457#Comment_3021457
How do you think Plague and Blight are going to be even worse?
I disagree with your take on the gen speeds and Thano simply because a gen with the new Thana will take 110.25 seconds as opposed to the 96 seconds (assuming full Thana stacks) it too before. I can take roughly 5.5 seconds off of the repair speed as well with the new options for 5% repair speed increase. Also, Pop and Ruin will not be getting anywhere as much regression and, without the scream, Pain Resonance won't activate DMS.
In my opinion, that's fine. Gens were popping too quickly before.
I also disagree that the new 5 second BT is nothing. It's enough time to put some distance between you and the Killer
If people are really concerned about tunneling still, stack Off the Record and DS. That provides a 5 second haste minimum, 45 seconds of Endurance, a post hit speed boost after being hit, and a 3 second DS stun for up to one minute. That's a lot. The only reason not to do it is you don't want to or aren't concerned about tunneling.
I don't think DS needed a change but I think it'll be less necessary now and, with the new combo, it's not necessary to let unhooked people body block the Killer for up to 45 seconds and then still harass the Killer so the Killer can eat a 5 second stun. That's not fun for the Killer. Maybe with a 3 second stun it'll happen less or maybe the change to DS was not necessary.
The less distance part isn't that big of a deal since it's literally two tenths of a second. If you want distance, equip Overcome.
Tunneling and camping are a lot less viable, gen regression perks have been nerfed, and now there are options for survivors to take instead of the same small group of perks. That sounds good to me.
Do I want sick heal speeds? Botany, Desperate and possibly CoH or Autodidact. Have a tunneling killer throw the game if they target me? Off the Record, DS and Overcome. Be the most annoying person ever to a slugger especially if they have a hex? Tenacity, Unbreakable and Soul Guard. Help the unhooked? BT, Babysitter and We'll Make It. I see options with room left over for an exhaustion perk.
Of course, until we see how it plays out practically, we won't know but I don't see a big problem at all.
Plague is going to be a pain because of Thana.
Blight is going to be a pain because you get even less distance when you're hit. When getting distance is already nearly impossible against Blight and Nurse.
But yeah Sprint Burst and Overcome are definitely gonna be getting used a lot more.
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@rooCraah said:
New grind is still preferable for the freedom it gives for most players:
Previously, you had to decide whether you really wanted prestige cosmetics, and if you did, you had to prestige 3 before you could even get started on all perks.
If you decided you didn't really want prestige cosmetics, you could get all perks faster, but if you ever changed your mind, you had to do everything all over again.
It's way more player-friendly to make getting all perks the first step in account progression, and letting players obtain prestige cosmetics (including the new charms) afterwards.
Though thinking about it, if the new apex of the grind is P100 all characters, surely that's mathematically impossible with on average 8 new characters a year, right?
I think the point is that you're not supposed to Prestige 100 all your characters. It's just to show your dedication to one particular character. Like, I'm a Claudette main. So once I Prestige 3 new characters I'm not gonna waste anymore BP on them cuz I won't have to. They'll have all the perks and everything they need. Although I may get them to Prestige 6 to have their bloody cosmetics.
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@Sludge said:
Spine Chill and Self-Care nerfs were actually buffs for SoloQ
The worst teammates I've ever had in SoloQ use these perks because they do nothing all game and play for hatch
Spine chill nerf is also a nerf to players who are hard of hearing so that's great. sigh.
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Already got ppl complaining about Off the Record being OP when it's literally "Borrowed Time but when ur teammate doesn't have Borrowed Time." As far as I can tell, that's the only decent solo queue perk after the update since DS got butchered. (Less stun? Really BHVR?)
Not to mention this update is a major buff to Blight, Nurse, Legions, and Plagues. 4 of the worst killers in solo queue imo. (The slower gen speeds + Thana buffs are gonna be actual hell on earth against Legions and Plagues. And the base killer updates are gonna be hell against Plague and Blight. You're telling me I'm gonna get LESS distance when I get hit by a them? Yay! And of course those are 2 killers that already ate through DS before. So now it's gonna be even easier for them)
The base BT doesn't actually address anything. It's basically BHVR saying "Hey, we know you guys are getting tunneled a lot so here's how we're gonna fix it...by not actually fixing it at all good luck!" 5 seconds is actually nothing.
Idk as a solo survivor, I am not looking forward to playing DBD after this mid-chapter. But if they were trying to convince ppl to switch to killer ig they succeeded. Can't wait to stomp solos ig.
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@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3017344#Comment_3017344
She had boyfriends
What because she rides motorbikes? Love stereotypes
Just read through her lore and don't see any mentions of boyfriends...
She had a stalker...who attacked her with a knife. But the only relationships they talk about is either her familial one or the one of her all-female biker gang. But again, didn't see anything about a boyfriend.
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@Swampoffering said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3014641#Comment_3014641
By destroying anti gen builds without destroying gen speed xD Nice one bruh
Did you not literally read the patch notes? They buffed other gen regression perks + increased gen time to 90 seconds + increased the amount of gen progress lost when kicking a gen
Like come on now be serious.
Y'all really, genuinely want each individual gen to take 2 minutes to finish that's crazy.
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Yeah I don't know why the hook grab is still a thing It's insane.
I'm genuinely so tired of the hook face off that happens when a killer is face camping.
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@Swampoffering said:
Ruin nerfed to the ground.
PoP Nerfed to the ground.
Noed useless (I agree with this nerf)
Tinkerer nerfed
Pain resonance doesn´t work anymore with dead man switch.
Do we must be happy after getting our entire builds destroyed and we get +10% speed kicking pallets and 10S more per gen in return?
Good Luck with queue times after this patch xD
Literally the whole point of the update is to destroy the meta builds and force players to use different perks.
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Whenever I used Self-Care I paired it with Botany anyway.
Old Botany was 33% Self-Care was 50%
So you healed at 80% speed.
Now Self-Care is 35% and Botany is 50% so it's a 85% heal. Not great, but not worse than it was.
Honestly think they did this to push more ppl to running COH.
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I'm just glad I have a perk that can give me endurance when I get unhooked. I've been saying I wished BT gave me the endurance when I get unhooked because so often I get farmed off of the hook. So Off the Record is a god send.
No more hook farms! Rejoice!
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@Zarathos said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3013617#Comment_3013617
It makes zero sense how a basic ass ping system isnt added. It would increase solo survivor retention. More sales and make it easier to design and improve exisitng elements of the game without walking this tightrope of busted for swf good enough for solo. You cant balance both when swf info advantage is effectively 5 informations levels worth of perks.
You just need to put a marker down in game to indicate something. Totem here, heal pls, killer on me, going for save. No chat box is needed little icons markers that other survivors can see. A full blown chat box wont be necessary.
I mean look at VHS. They have built-in voice chat BUT they also have a ping system. They'll never have to worry about the "Is this killer too OP against solo players or weak against swf-" situation because all players have the same level of information whether they're on comms or not.
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I play solo queue. Why would I suffer through a game against a Nurse.
"You're ruining the game for your teammates." I do not know those ppl.
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@BrokenSouI said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3011698#Comment_3011698
So why is it so hard to apply the same concepts on other maps ?
Because not every map is Lerys?
There's a huge difference between playing against Nurse on a map with hundreds of little rooms to break line of sight in VS a map with a huge dead zone in between the only 4 tiles.
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SoloQ desperately needs to be brought up to swf level
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@Jarky said:
Looking forward to this!
I don't know if it's just placeholder text, but I feel like it'd be better if the player name was the large font and the character name was the smaller font, but that's just a personal preference.
I think it's this way around because when they add the streamer mode, you'll be able to hide your name.
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@MikaelaWantsYourBoon said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3010196#Comment_3010196
If this icons comes to game, we will see those topics:
- + I am prestige 0 but i played against p20 players
- + Why i am always playing against +p10 players, matchmaking is broken
Already seeing comments under the tweet asking how this is gonna change MMR and thinking these are ranks. Pain.
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@DrDeepwound said:
They ruined F13 now you wanna come do it to DBD
The dances are what saved F13. Hell, people are still talking about F13 to this day because memes have started trending on social media (TikTok) about the dances.
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Killer mains would lose their minds.
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@fulltonon said:
Tbh this perk might as well be removed, it doesn't make game any interesting but rather plain kills an aspect.
You can't just straight up remove Spine Chill. There are only a handful of perks that are helpful for players who are hard of hearing or deaf and Spine Chill is one of them. Some gamers need it.
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Every time someone says "I play solo queue and it's totally fine as is." it's almost a 100% guarantee that it's someone who's never played solo in their entire lives lmao. Or a killer main in disguise, twirling their mustache as they try to convince us that solo queue is in a good place.
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Thank you. Everytime I see someone say something along the lines of "Okay they need to remove SWF or give SWF a penalty like slower gens." I just kinda laugh because I couldn't imagine being known as the game that punished people for playing with their friends.
80% of swfs aren't as sweaty as people say. Whenever I played in a swf, we were not sweaty. We were just messing around. Hell, I was DISTRACTED most of the time because we were just cracking jokes and being silly.
@Lucario576 said:
If they can put Solo Q on par with SWF then they can buff or nerf killers and survivors accordingly
Boom. I've been saying this for months.
@toxik_survivor said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3005666#Comment_3005666
That's too much work for BHVR- not just shitting on BHVR but that would be a project that would take a year if not more, I don't think BHVR or anyone would be willing to do that (it would obv sacrifice alot of other content.)
I don't think it'd take that long at all. I mean, we already know they're working on buffing solo queue.