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this question is so stupid OP honestly.
Dead by daylight is all about guessing etc so when a killer mindgames a pallet and a survivor knows that does that mean killers assume survivor to be stupid?
dbd is all about, guessing, mindgaming, routing, faking blabla
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i stopped after realizing how many people use an emulator for advantages it just doesnt feel like a mobile game anymore.
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@MadLordJack said:
Is that opinion unpopular? I feel like that's just something taken for granted - the only ones I have ever seen argue against that are the second-chance crutchers that genuinely cannot make do with 3 second chance perks and REQUIRE all 4 slots to cover for their mistakes.
Like, seriously. 3 is plenty. One perk slot to drastically increase your knowledge of what's going on around you? That's so much more useful than yet another second chance. It is actually more meta to run DS/UB/DH/[Bond or Kindred] in solo que than it is to run Adrenaline or BT or whatever.
also... can you blame people for using second chance perks? if you really wanna have fun you need atleast 1 second chance perk.
most killers hard tunnel, camp etc and if you dont wanna deal with that you need these perks. the only time i blame survivors for using that is when they're very good but also play on comms. because these people dont really need it. i play sometimes with my mates (and they're all potatoes) they dont run meta perks and when there is no obsession they just get hard tunneled what is very sad. so when i play with them i always pick DS just to have one obsession and the killer maybe respect DS.
sucks for the killer but some killers really deserve to play against meta survivor perks.
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@MadLordJack said:
Is that opinion unpopular? I feel like that's just something taken for granted - the only ones I have ever seen argue against that are the second-chance crutchers that genuinely cannot make do with 3 second chance perks and REQUIRE all 4 slots to cover for their mistakes.
Like, seriously. 3 is plenty. One perk slot to drastically increase your knowledge of what's going on around you? That's so much more useful than yet another second chance. It is actually more meta to run DS/UB/DH/[Bond or Kindred] in solo que than it is to run Adrenaline or BT or whatever.
Well.. there was a discussion a few months ago where someone listed all usefull/useless perks of survivor making something like a tier list and there were a lot people disliking Bond. i barely see that perk on survivors
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@Blueberry said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1734677#Comment_1734677
Woah buddy relax.
I probably have more hours at rank 1 on both sides than you and all your friends have combined. Based on a lot of these opinions I think you need a few more hours into the game. There is just way too many wrong statements in this post to unpack.
argue with me and dont write a empty text. if you cant argue stop talking about balance simple. have a great day
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@Blueberry said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1734639#Comment_1734639
The statement was referencing good solos vs swf. It was not referencing the average group of solos vs swf.
Those are two very different things.
And im saying that is not a thing anymore.. so why do we even discuss about it? Devs made rank reset from 10 to 5 just for killers.. now every trash player is a rank 1 and gets demolished. so please lets first talk about serious issues before saying "survivors are still OP" or whatever.
why didnt you talk about the amount of dead ends on maps?
Bloodlust, Aim detection, 90% unsafe pallets in every map, the potatoes in red ranks, the hitbox 3x bigger then the actual models of survivors, the garbage dedi server to give killers undeserved hits?
why are you just talking about YOUR side, and im sure you're a killer main who is entitled to his opinion.
go play a little bit survivor, play on killer sided maps with potatoes who just hide also play against a mori and iri head using huntress.
before even talking about balance play the other role, i dont see any issues playing killer nowadays the only time a killer is struggling its because a cordinated team what is barely the case.
i know what im talking about, im a Huntress & Nurse player and 90% of my matches i get my 4K with 2-3 gens left.
stop with the entitledment and be serious, how hard is it to play killer?
i tell you when you have a hard time
-4man swf on comms, + Ormond offering + key + meta perks
now tell me how many times do you get that? 1x in 100 games probably.
not only that.. killers who are supposed to be rank 10 get boosted by rank 1 potatoes who are supposed to be rank 15 and as soon the killer gets some good players he comes to the forum and whines and cries how unbalanced the game is... yeah sure bud.
if you win 9/10 matches easily and start complain at the 10th game because you lost.. sorry but that is nothing else then entitlement.
"OMG IM THE KILLER, THE POWERROLE, I NEED TO 4K EVERY SINGLE GAME DOESNT MATTER HOW MUCH MISTAKES I HAVE DONE, DOESNT MATTER, EVEN WHEN I CHASE A SINGLE SURVIVOR FOR 3 MINUTES I SHOULD STILL HAVE TIME TO WIN"
that is the entitletment of killer mains and dont even try to prove me wrong these are facts.
Killers have nowadays so many advantages as i mentioned Bloodlust, unsafe pallets, smaller maps, insta downs, moris, soloQ full with potatoes, aim detection, dedi servers, hitboxes 3x larger then the actual model etc
so please.. stop with this BS. learn the game, git gud and accept it when you lose 1 time out of 10 matches.
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@Blueberry said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1734566#Comment_1734566
Wrong. A good group of solo survivors is still the power role.
something like that doesnt exist anymore since ranking is so easy that every potatoe reaches red rank.
if that really exists im really wondering where all the good survivors are in my soloQ games.
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@Sluzzy said:
The problem is the competition with the overpowered killer perk meta. If you aren't using the very best survivor perks then you are at a greater disadvantage than you already are.
yeah i agree with that but its still usefull in some situations.
@Golden_spider said:
Bond IS good for Solo but Kindred exists as a non-teachable and typically gives better information so...
2nd Place isn't bad.
yeah kindred is also godlike but works only when someone is hooked otherwise it would be crazy strong.
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OP you forgot to mention Dedicated servers, hitboxes big like a refrigator.
rank reset from 10 to 5 so every survivor can reach rank 1 and cant do anything against experienced killer to make it as easy as possible while the real red rank solos suffer from that.
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@Blueberry said:
The game isn't even remotely killer sided. This is generally agreed upon by all the high hour/high rank community. Survivor is still very much the power role.
Solo survivor is also not unplayable whatsoever. I play strictly solo and win the vast majority of my games. I also don't run almost any of the meta second chance perks either.
You are also putting way too much game balance interpretation into those statistics that are flawed for a multitude of reasons. They make killers look much stronger than they actually are.
Wrong. SWF is the powerrole not survivor.
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oh.. i forgot to mention, you can also see all the urbaning survivors :p
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that is toxic? oh lord.
the word toxic has lost its meaning seriously. everyone is using that word nowadays for anything they dont like.
im sure most people dont even know what the actual meaning of toxic is.
in dbd everything is "toxic"
i mean i got called toxic for throwing a pebble towards the killer LOL
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its probably vendigo.
but i hope its a orginal killer..
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@BioX said:
dear lord does OP reveal themselves to be a survivor main and perhaps exclusive player, this entire post is pure irony really
Yes i am a entitled, toxic survivor main.
just look at the ranks and you will see what side i play more. cheers
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@Demonl3y said:
You are the reason why they exist.
,,Oh no i dont want that map, le me DC!"
Oh thr game will be unfun for ME, so let mr DC and screw over the other!"
@RizeAki said:
These are EXCUSES to dc not reasons to dc. Run your own map offering or sacrificial ward. Do the gens open the door and walk out if they are farming. Leaving that match screws all the others over also dealing with bad framerates but now they have 5 gens and a killer to work against as well.
love it how you both picked one reason and try to trashtalk about that one thing. u guys are hilarious. why didnt you say anything about bad ping killers? about bugs? huh?
yes let people have a unfun match because other people are more important? allright... from now on i will just have unfun matches just for other people to have fun. oh lord you guys are something else
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I decided to play one match today.. my teammates do nothing, i get hit by dedicated hits... i took a breath and ALT-F4 and wont touch this game again in the near future, im so sick and exhausted really.
-Maps
Either survivor sided or killer
Dead ends
some maps have a crazy amount of pallets like fractured cowshed/Ormond
Haddonfield is very balanced btw
Hawkins, dawg saloon full with unsafe pallets.
Dedicated servers
Hitbox of survivors size of my refrigator
Bloodlust still not punshing, getting dedi hits and having a huge hitbox is already not enough not even talking about some maps having tons of dead ends.
ranking system/Ranking = everyone is a rank 1 nowadays means even a rank 15 reaches that rank and will play with me against a real rank 1 killer what makes the game just a frustrating experience
Killers also reaching rank 1 when they're supposed to be rank 10 because they get boosted by the baby survivors who easily reach higher ranks.. at the end killer disconnect against good survivors because they got boosted by baby survivors.
SWF
M1 simulator as survivor, boring as hell.
playing solo against, moris, insta downs and all that sh't
keys = BS
the grind
performance/bad optimization (luckely i have a decent pc and can run it without issues but i heard a lot people have issues)
Events are = non existence, we just get stuff for free or BP events instead of playing a actual event where we have some fun
Camping, Tunneling big issue and unfun
there so many things what makes the game just not fun anymore and the list can go even further but i stop.
im just done with DBD for now, i spend around 600$ for this game, but what have the devs done for me or the community who supported the game financially? NOTHING! keep making people quit BHVR.
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@ill_Boston_lli said:
all you have to do as survivor is move left and right to cause a miss or run straight or vault and the killer will swing right through you doesn't add up. @bhvr Did you try to sneak hit validation in again or something what the hell is going on with the hitboxes atleast explain whats up
i guess you never played against a killer with 300 ping who hits your from 10 meters away? yeah this game is totally in the survivors side, thanks god the hitbox of survivors arent the size of a refrigator.. what would be just happen if it was like that? uffff
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i will now tbag, flash click, and bm the killers as much as possible with every power i have just because i didnt like the killer in my last match. screw every killer player everyone is the same. they deserve it
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@Elena said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/198869/this-halloween-event-will-be-a-joke
If No.3 is true then I'd love to hear arguments from people who think the devs aren't survivor biased
oh wait one more thing... the devs changed the rank reset from back to 10 to 5 so every rank 20 can now be a rank 1 and play against a experience killer so everyy experienced killer now plays against babys and get his 4K
before even writing something please use your braincells and stop acting like a entitled killer main who just opens the eyes when there is something for the opposite side but closing it when there is something for you.
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@Elena said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/198869/this-halloween-event-will-be-a-joke
If No.3 is true then I'd love to hear arguments from people who think the devs aren't survivor biased
Devs released killers like Pyramid head
Freddy got buffed to a BS level
Spirit didnt got touched for months now.
Devs didnt only reworked maps they also added tons of dead zones.
they still dont care about solo survivors.
while releasing good killer perks and also reworking perks like tinkerer they didnt do anything perkwise for survivors.
Dedicated servers still didnt got improved and killers get underserved hits.
hitboxes are the size of my refrigator.
lot of dead ends but Bloodlust is still in the game.
tons of killer sided maps with 90% unsafe pallets.
you really want more?
what have the devs done for survivor can you please tell me?
oh yeah they reworked any means necessary what is nobody using anyways.
please tell me one good thing what the devs did for survivors?
oh wait.. they can use a stupid useless addon. sorry my bad.
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I was using Unbreakable in one of my matches (without DS)
well my unbreakable was kinda the game changer and he got mad about it.
At the end the lovely killer called me a small pp perk user i should also run DS, adren etc because im a toxic cu*t for using that stuff. meanwhile he brought also good perks and addons and if im not mistaken he even had a mori. when i asked him why he is allowed to use strong sh*t and im not he didnt say anything. i love entitlement.
btw im a solo survivor, and i think we should use strong perks unlike swf codinated teams who have already a advantage. but that a killer is complaining about a solo player using some strong stuff is kinda funny.
as killer i have to many story and wont list everything. but the usuall complaints
Tunnler, camper, totem camper blabla even tho you didnt do that stuff.
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@weirdkid5 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1694313#Comment_1694313
To be fair, Killers have been needing a bone for a long ass time.
they did. but my point is that this guy is acting like they do everything for survivors like what? either he is just a entitled killer main or just dont see what devs actually did over the past months for killers.
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@Hoodied said:
expect it in like....6 minutes probably
@FrootLoops said:
should be live within the next 10 minutes according to the lizard entrails I am staring at
allright thanks guys! i should've waited 10 more minutes lol
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@Speshul_Kitten said:
Meanwhile Empathy keeps its full map range. Good to know where the devs prioritize their player base.
are you serious? you sound like a entitled kid really. the past year devs did more for the killer side then survivor. just think about it
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playing against :
Skill Billy :((( i miss them soo much ;(
Myers, especially when he brings a mori for me <3
Wraith, when i have a purple beamer *evil laugh* heheheh
Playing as:
Billy used to be my fav but now its huntress
Myers obviously
and Trapper, its just satisfying when a survivor runs in your trap and you already have that evil smile in your face before they get trapped lol
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a lot.. but its my fault im looping sometimes just too good and when 3 gens pop after my first chase the killer just proxy camps me.. i need to stop to loop killers lol
tunneling is a different story.. from killer to killer its very different. some days i get tunneled 9/10 matches in a row and some days its 1/10 matches in a row.
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depends.. when a killer had a very bad match i mostly just leave the lobby just for the respect.
sometimes you lose and you just dont wanna hear anything and even when the GG is meant to be nice you can easily misunderstand it and think " they say it because they wanna provoke me" etc
its on you but i mostly dont say GG when the killer had a very very bad match.
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Just ignore the ranks.. everyone is rank 1 nowadays and it doesnt mean anything anymore. i wish i would de-rank from 1 to 20 so i can atleast plunder my chest and have chill games. with all the potatoes its just more frustrating then fun.
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@JephKaplan said:
Im tired of having to play nurse or spirit if i want a chance against a coordinated team, swf is the worst thing to be added in this game hands down. I just wanted to play some plague or demo and its literally impossible to have fun, im not even trying to get a 4k i just want a fun game not 2 gens done before i find anyone on rotten fields on ormond, map issues are a problem in itself tho
Corrupt intervention is your best friend, im using that perk pretty much with every killer it will avoid to get gen rushed to fast and survivors spawn mostly near the gens who are blocked means they need to move their ass to find a gen and while running to gen you see some scratch marks.
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@Mister_xD said:
1) Freddy - i dont really mind the killer himself, but when combined with multiple slow downs the trial gets extremely sluggish and boring for survivors. plus the killer has basically no real downsides, so thats also not very thrilling to go up against.
2) Pyramid Head - in his curent state he is just faking his power at every pallet / window, cheesing chases. add free hardtunneling on tormented survivors and voila, you got the recipe for a very boring match. i hope the changes are going to fix that.
3) Legion - for the sole reason that i usually play solo survivor and always have at least one or two survivors selfcaring, even though its a legion and they have sloppy. STOP SELFCARING AGAINST LEAGION FFS ;-;
Oh yeah.. i love self caring people against legion LMAO
the best thing is when you repair the gen and the meg next to you want to heal you and point at you for 20 seconds instead of pressing M1 on the gen :)
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- Pyramid, you drop the pallet you get hit, you try to outplay and bait you get hit.
- Freddy, Bloodlust King with the snare, and most games are just boring (Ropes, dying light, tita, sloppy etc pretty much a M1 simulator on gens + POP and BBQ very fun.
- Deathslinger because of low TR or a stridor Spirit
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Devs make the game more boring with every update. they really think pressing M1 on a gen for 2 minutes is fun.
played a few days ago against a freddy with Pop, Dying when he got like 7 stacks i just wanted to quit. survivors like to get chased because its fun, you interact with something but sitting on a gen for 2-3 minutes... if anyone really thinks its fun well...
they dont need to increase gen speed just implement a second objective like finding a screwdriver on the map before starting a gen or something like that. gen speed currently is fine good killers who play strong killers like Freddy, Spirit, Nurse, billy etc
it just looks like its not fine when you play a weak killer with low mobility on a big map and you're not experienced.
you barely do 3 gens against a spirit with stridor who knows how to play.. and now imagine increasing the gen speed.
they just need to balance all maps, balance out killers so every killer is a mid-High tier killer, balance some perks, give survivors a second objective what doesnt waste that much time and here you go.
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How is a perk unfair what is not working 90% of the time.
Dead hard can be countered easily.
if you say Dead hard is unfair then a lot of things on the killer side are also unfair.
Dedicated servers, bloodlust, Spirit fury enduring combo, aim assist, lunge of killers, insta downs, moris etc etc
there are a lot of other unfair perks on the survivor side and you choose the one who is probably the worse because its not working mostly.
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@Xyvielia said:
Devs seem to have been attempting the balancing around SWF.
SWF coordinate perks and execute a TRUE 4vs1 gang-up on Killers. 5th perk coms only intensifies the OP factor.
Thus, devs have given killers very decent counters in add-ons, mori’s, some fairly strong perks, close proximity exit gates etc. These are a few of the ways to help killers against a 3-4person SWF team.
Solo queue doesn’t always seem like it’s 4vs1 when perks aren’t coordinated, coms aren’t active, and everyone is playing their own style of game and not in a perfect flow like SWF.
Killers can sometimes seem like OP bullies in Solo matches, for this reason. Realistically, many killers anticipate a OP SWF team and prepare accordingly with a build/ add-ons that may feel unfair to Solo.
Solo queue is jus somewhat of an unfair challenge that I’ve come to enjoy. It’s all I play, and it feels good knowing (as much as killer players complain about unfair SWFs) that I’m not a 5th perk using killer bully.
It’s harder to escape, double pipping in many consecutive matches when playing Solo queue then it is in a special ops SWF.
the only thing i care about is FUN in every game. its not about escaping or looping a killer for 5 gens.
but when i repair 3-4 gens on average every game there is something wrong and how can sitting just on gens be fun? or how can getting looped be fun every match? this isnt what i see as fun. i wanna do gens, go for hooks, search for chest etc
but i need to play optimal every match to get people out. because i noticed when im not doing the objective nobody is doing it. and all the other stuff i mentioned is also not fun (hitboxes, servers etc etc)
yeah playing against swf on comms isnt fun, i know how it feels, i play both sides. but you cant just balance everything around these people, or you implement a ingame voice com and balance everything around swf.
and about having a challenge.. yes thats is pretty nice, i also love challenges. i grow up with the souls games and i love it when something is challenging. but again.. getting facecamped, tunneled, morid after the first hook.. that is not a challenge for me its just a boring thing to go against. and getting every game poatoes is just exhausting. maybe i just need to leave this game after 4 years and need to look for something else.
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@Respectfulnancymain said:
That honestly feels like a buff not a nerf, the timer pausing in the terror radius could could be abused by survivors
its not a buff, its a anti-tunnel perk what everyone wants. people say DS isnt a anti tunnel perk, now you try to make it a anti-tunnel perk and people again complain. everything can get abused my friend either we change it or we keep it.
and honestly how can they abuse it? by staying in your TR and not doing the objectives? well i prefer a stupid survivor running with me then doing the objectives i can still slug him and come back later means more waste of time of survivors.
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@RizeAki said:
Just use your stretched res to see it from a mile away lol. All jokes aside every killer has the same hit box for the weapon no matter if the size is from Freddy to Pyramid Head.
i play with black bars not stretched you're wrong. or is playing with black bars also cheating :p ?
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@NoOneKnowsNova said:
I genuinely don't see the problem here. If that was any other killer it would look completely normal.
Its about the lunge distance, its not about the model.
when the killer starts lunging and can go 5 meter with his lunge then there is something wrong, keep in mind you also have the aim aissist (hit detection), the hitbox of survivors what is the double size of the actualy model of the survivor and then you have the lovely Dedicated server, Bloodlust etc.
and a killer shouldnt have so many advantages in a chase.
lunging from the pallet all way trough behind the window is not fair.
but yeah "main" players will never accept something what isnt in their favor why am i even trying to have a fair game.
and honestly i cant understand how you can even say "i dont see the problem" that is just sad.
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its about the distance not the model.
when a killer can lunge for 5 meters there is actually something wrong.
if now think abou the Dedicated server advantage, the lunge distance and the hit detection aka aim assist hmmmm
yes next.
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@Awakey said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1655061#Comment_1655061
This toxic mentality is why this community is so bad.
Don't do this, people.
LOL
these are facts, i never heard a killer main actually talking about BS things on their side they're just to busy complaining with the opposite side.
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pshhht.. be quiet.
or the killer mains will start to cry about facts.
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who tf said im using stretched? i took that as example because all the cry baby killer mains say "omg he can see me over the rock by 1mm its cheating" but not a single one of you is actually talking about these BS hits.
as long something is in your favor everything is fine BUT hell when someone else doing something its the worse thing ever and they need to get punished.
first tell your devs to make this game fair before complaining about a little advantage
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@RizeAki said:
You can’t just tell people not to play a game they like but you can tell people to get good and not cheat it’s that simple
Getting undeserved hits is cheating.
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@RizeAki said:
Umm people really can’t control the ping they don’t go “you know what today I want low ping” but you are choosing to change settings to give you an advantage that if you just get good you don’t need.
then you dont play the game simple. just because you want to play the game so bad you have the rights to make the game experience of other people bad? what is that logic? its completely fine to let other people suffer? devs dont bring a ping indicator of killers, they dont improve the servers, they dont bring new servers to different regions like russia, they brought a hit validiation what isnt even working.
but omg stretched is sooo cheating. where you can look over a rock just by 1CM
if you say SWF is cheating, stretched is cheating also getting a advantage of a bad ping is cheating simple.
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i mean crossplay not cross-platform sorry.
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@ZCerebrate said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1645092#Comment_1645092
Putting the center of my screen on most killer's mouths (aim point used to be basically their neck or jaw areas) is an instant blind for me and good for flashie saves as long as there aren't random obstacles in the way that somehow muck up that angle when you're too close (also another thing I see a ton of survivors have trouble with which is standing far too close to the killer in most cases that aiming gets harder).
well i guess i need to get used to it.
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well.. before you needed to aim on the face of the killer now you need to aim to the right of the killer what makes no sense to me.
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well.. im playing the game.
isnt everything toxic nowadays in dbd? you loop toxic, you use a strong perk toxic, you get called a toxic swf even tho you play solo.
well.. acording to the community everything im doing is toxic.
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@Clevite said:
I'd have fun with it for a second, then hook one .
I am not a fan of farming on either side and 5 gennys left is too long for me to be standing around.
So I'd hook one and let them know the game was still on!
I dont mind it when it not happens every 5 matches. but sometimes is nice to have a chill meme round. at the end i killed 2 and let the other 2 go and everyone was happy and we even had a nice talk at the endgame without insulting each other and just laugh together.
maybe its cringe but that is what we need in dbd a community who respect each other and laugh together. that is how i think.
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@TheRockstarKnight said:
It took me so long to realize you meant Deathslinger with DS, not Decisive Strike.
Also I gotta concur with @KingFrost; I'm pretty sure trees exist independently of Ghostyboi.
Like, even as a joke I really don't see the connection. Sure he can, like, lean from around them, but he can lean around basically anything on the entire map.
What makes trees more special to him than, like, say a pallet? Or a hook? Or a window?
Yeah trees were always a thing but the number of trees increased with ghostys release (i think) lol
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i would love to see more "ambience & atmosphere" not just BP events and grind this and that.
on christmas i wanna see snowflakes and some lights on trees (im not even celebrating christmas or any of these holidays thingys, im muslim but i would LOVE to see that in DBD) just having this nice atmosphere while playing inside where its warm.
BP events = Weekly, example = every sunday for 3-4 hours a BP event instead of every 6 months that way more people would play.
on eastern eggs lying around. just simple things to have a good atmosphere in the game would be just cool.
just some thoughts of me.