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@Ihatelife said:
@RSB said:
These perks, except Lithe and Sole Survivor, are in fact in need of buffs, I agree.Sole survivor doesn't need a buff?
No, it does not, it already hinders several perks of a killer. If killer uses, for example, Deerstalker and NC, you can just heal in his TR. Using one perk, to trum killer's 2 perks is a quite good deal, don;t you think? Besides it has quite fun synergy with OoO.
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These perks, except Lithe and Sole Survivor, are in fact in need of buffs, I agree.
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@BigBadPiggy said:
Just because you're trash doesn't mean she is low tier. Freddy is considered low tier (VERY low tier) and yet i'm still getting 4 kills at rank 10-4. Maybe try getting better?Do I really need to post these screens, where I 4k with her against SWF teams? I do not have time to tell you why she is weak, because you can find it in this thread. Besides, I do not believe that I can somehow reach to you, so I won't weven try.
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@AStupidMonkeyy said:
Besides, the hissing (even TRUETALENT HAS SAID THIS) is overly loud and makes hearing survivors almost impossible, the blood showing is a BUG and the scratches disappear in grass and tall grass. In the end, you'll just playing a GUESSING game, NOT A STRATEGY GAME against a survivor and TRUETALENT EVEN SAYS THAT. It's not skill, its lucky guesses if you catch someone.Guessing game with 20s cooldown.
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@Swiftblade131 said:
Change My Mind :chuffed:I can't, you are right.
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That cooldown should be 10s instead of 20s, because right now we have a slow killer, who can sprint once per 20+s. And all other changes you listed should be implemented.
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bad - too long cooldown, too high learning curve compared to viability, less tools to juke than survivors have
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@Sarief said:
@RSB said:
@Sarief said:
@RSB said:
@Sarief said:
But you don't see Freddy with OoO unless you also in dream world. But Freddy does see you.
Wraith is seen because he has 0 TR. Also, he can see you no matter the distance in his ghost form. Spirit would not.That's why I ask.
ps: you will if you use addons. Also you don't see "new" blood atm, no?
You will be able to see blood when you use an ultra-rare addon. That all thing with "new blood/old blood" is a lie, devs confirmed it as a bug and said, they will remove it.
my only problem here is bugged scratchmarks

Bugged in what way? If you are talking about their delay/going in the different way, that they should, it is designed that way.
going in different way - no, they're designed to follow survivor. If they do (when they do) it's a bug.
delay is problem, yes, but I can see it being shadow implemented as buff to survivors. It should not have such big delay, but nothing I can't live with.The bugs are numerous, but my concern is them simply not being seen on some tiles or under low grass for some random places. You run behind surv but see no scratchmarks - I always wonder #########.
ps: i hope for promised buff on predator
It is not a bug anymore, devs called it a feature and reworked Predator to fix it - as a bandaid. Quite sad, that killers problems are now being fixed by forcing them to use special perks...
Anyway, delay is okay, but 20s cooldown is the biggest issue, it should be like 10s. Being forced to use her ability once per 20s of cooldown + 4s och charge + 5s of using said ability is... Not good.
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@Sarief said:
@RSB said:
@Sarief said:
But you don't see Freddy with OoO unless you also in dream world. But Freddy does see you.
Wraith is seen because he has 0 TR. Also, he can see you no matter the distance in his ghost form. Spirit would not.That's why I ask.
ps: you will if you use addons. Also you don't see "new" blood atm, no?
You will be able to see blood when you use an ultra-rare addon. That all thing with "new blood/old blood" is a lie, devs confirmed it as a bug and said, they will remove it.
my only problem here is bugged scratchmarks

Bugged in what way? If you are talking about their delay/going in the different way, that they should, it is designed that way.
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@sansrin said:
I'm Korean female DBD player.Stopped reading, I know why you are here.
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@Sarief said:
But you don't see Freddy with OoO unless you also in dream world. But Freddy does see you.
Wraith is seen because he has 0 TR. Also, he can see you no matter the distance in his ghost form. Spirit would not.That's why I ask.
ps: you will if you use addons. Also you don't see "new" blood atm, no?
You will be able to see blood when you use an ultra-rare addon. That all thing with "new blood/old blood" is a lie, devs confirmed it as a bug and said, they will remove it.
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When she is in a spirit form you can hear her, but not see, on the other side she can only predict where you might be (in fact, when she uses her power, you can just walk away destroying her power completly).
I do not know about OoO, but I think they can see you, like they see Wraith, or other killers.
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@ArthurFiNCHr said:
Stop being hypocrites, thanksk, or stop projecting as if somebody were complaining about survivors' new perks, than you.
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Pig is mid-tier, Wraith is the second worst kiler in the game, you may kill with him due to low rank. Also, when you encounter a survivors who pallet loop (99% of survivors, pallet looping is using an exploit, where your collision is smaller than killer's and you can move faster around objects with pallets wasting almost all killer's time on catching one survivor), you will probably switch to survivor or stop playing that horrible, unbalanced game.
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All aura reading perks does not work on her.
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Yep, he is right. I would add lowering that 20s cooldown to the list, it is horrible.
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@Pirscher said:
@Dre This is a fictive, creative work. You cannot police or censor art.This game is also created for a mature audience. Mature audience meaning that the people who play the game can handle the subject matter (horror genre) and understand that this is fiction for entertainment purposes. Mature people also have the capacity to distinguish between what is right and what is wrong.
If you are very sensitive and easily offended, I would suggest* that you stay away from most video games, movies, tv shows, books, websites, etc because youre gonna have a really hard time trying to police everything.
Tschau
I recommend watching cartoons suitable for children, like Happy Tree Friends, she would not get offended watching this.
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Dear patriarchal pigs,
Ignore that balance/bug and focus on not needed cries of a blue-hairded "woman", because my feminazi doctrine is way much more important.
Thank you,
Jane LaShawn, PhD in Femi StudiesPS. Stop ######### me with answers, you are insulting my femininity.
PS2. where my doritos at
PS3. I would like to remind all SJWs, that today we have an "in vitro > abortion" day, to protest against giving birth to men. -
@Tsulan said:
@feffrey said:
Killers review bomb every time a Dev streams and attack them because "Something is too hard for them" or if a survivors perk is too fast.
They come here looking to fight with any survivor that suggest anything about a killer.lets stay on topic this killer is in a perfect spot of balance
what needs to be changedYep, was totally the killers that review bombed the exhaustion nerf.
Not the survivors.
/SHe is a forum troll, do not feed him. Let him starve and die in his toxicity.
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Looks like you have a double-personality, since you called him a #########, not him.
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I think her speed is fine, but her power needs a 10s cooldown (right now 20s), being able to move while charging the power, making the blood visible by default and aura, when you have an aura reading perk.
About her looks - she is the best looking character in DbD, really great work.
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@Touken said:
Giche said:Thankfully he didn't got a chance to see one of them IRL.
That's why i chose the word "SEXUAL HARASSER".
But seeing how old were his usual victims, we can assume the pedophile label too.
And toxicity in-game and after need to be adressed, not promoted by mofo like him.
ok then there you go idc what u call him except for something he is not, So he is not a ######### nor a molester
Where did anyone call him a #########? Do not put words in someone's mouth trying to push your "arguments", if I may call them "arguments". Also he is a molester.
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There are lots of proofs, even Ardetha made 2 videos with tons of it. Stop defending a sexual predator and a pedophile.
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And if he is pleased, that means something. She desperatly needs a buff.
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Devs: "See? First "OP plz nerf" thread, and 30 threads telling us, that she needs buffs. NERF THAT HOE"
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@Bug_Reporter said:
@Tsulan said:
@Bug_Reporter said:
Yeah notice the difference on the loadouts and also the Ranks before talking, i also want to see the 4 Iridescent Emblems...
3 rank 2s vs 4 rank 2s uuuuhhh so much difference!
Full perks on Freddy, Ebony Mori, -3.5 sec to go into dream world, no try hard builds at survivors like Insta Heals, Decisive Crutches and Flashlights... Yeah none of these makes a difference, anyways dude, unless she gets nerfed, nothing will change, she will continue to WIPE survivors after release much like Nurse.
If she is so superior, why are you complaining about slightly different perks than yours on the WEAKEST (Freddy) killer in the game? Why are you arguing, that he had bigger chance to win? If Rin is so good, then you should have bigger chances to 4k perkless, than full loaded Freddy ever will have.
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@powerbats said:
@Giche said:
@powerbats said:
Well we are talking about a she killer here so he can be right technically speaking.

And now you are trolling.
Shou ! Under the bridge.
Lies and slander hater, you take that back right now !!!!
But in all seriousness we're taking her possible shortcomings too seriously this soon after launch. I want to see how she handles after a week or so. By then there'll have been plenty of data to pore over as well as for both sides to get to know her better.
Yeah, and it will be too late to provide another, the same feedback, because the PTB will be over. The dev logic like "All negative feedback is untrue, because it is too soon to provide it, but all positive feedback is the best proof, that Rin is good" is just hypocrisy in it's pure form. The killer is weak, and will be even weaker after said one week. Even streamers, who claimed she is OK, now sees how weak she is and change their mind about her.
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@slingshotsurvivor said:
RSB said:@slingshotsurvivor said:
Can we please fix spamming L1 to make the clown go faster? If we are fixing speed aka sprint burst this should be fixed as well. There are too many killers running agitation and exploiting this.
It is a tactic, just like looping.
I wish it was however it ONLY works on PS4 and 25%-30% more speed on one platform isn't a tactic.
Oh, only on PS4? Damn...
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@slingshotsurvivor said:
Can we please fix spamming L1 to make the clown go faster? If we are fixing speed aka sprint burst this should be fixed as well. There are too many killers running agitation and exploiting this.It is a tactic, just like looping.
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@MinusTheBillie said:
Found some!!!!Oh #########, they look good.
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Weren't there some leaked pic's of her additional skin?
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Don't assume it's gender, you non-fluid CIS binary white catholic rightwing european blonde hair blue-eyed male.
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@pauloandrade22 said:
@RSB said:
@mcNuggets said:
The new killer is definetely not trash, but she's weak. Her power is easy to counter + her basic speed is slow.It's like the pig with only the crouch attack.
And 20s cooldown, and disability to see the survivors, and loooon charge time, and 110% speed...
I think she is at least mid tier Personally.
Right now yes, but only because survivors do not know how to play against her.
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@mcNuggets said:
The new killer is definetely not trash, but she's weak. Her power is easy to counter + her basic speed is slow.It's like the pig with only the crouch attack.
And 20s cooldown, and disability to see the survivors, and loooon charge time, and 110% speed...
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@ZombieGenesis said:
@WhateverIGuess said:
@AStupidMonkeyy said:
@WhateverIGuess said:
REEEEEEEEEEE I actually have to learn how to play the new killer REEEEEEEEEEEEEE Trash! Pure trash! Ugh, I'm disgusted!Don't come on a forum and start acting like a dou**e for no reason.
Sorry, I just find it very funny when people already say she's trash after she's been out for like a day. She's quite good, BUT NO, I'M TRASH AT HER SO IT MEANS SHE'S TRASH. Logic.
So people comment that she's "slightly underpowered" and they're crybaby whiner losers but you can comment that she's "quite good" when both sides have the exact same amount of information to go on and that's reasonable?
Because it is HIM, you get it? HE can't be at fault, because it is HIM.
Hypocrisy at it's best.
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@powerbats said:
@RSB said:
You recognise, that being able to see blood is currently a bug, and after the fix, she won't see it, unless she runs an ultra-rare addon? That's why I said survivors need to know how she works, so they will trump her. Without all information about her people claim she is good, but actually she is not.
20s cooldwon to use her power is a joke, as well as long charge time and not being able to move while charging. Combine it with the upcoming fix, the survivors who adapt and realise, that while she tries to mindgame them on the loop, they can just walk away from it and hide/go to another loop, stop running while in chase etc, and see how well can she do.
Btw. many people are basing their opinions on streamers' videos, where they play on KYF with the best addons/perks and with people who are casuals and just want to have fun playing with their favourite streamer, sometimes just hand themselves to them just for fun. They are not normal, competitive players from high ranks.
Did they say the bug is going to stay that way ie she has to use Ultra Rare addon or will it be a tier based thing for addons? As in she gets to see blood at all 5 tiers of items brown, yellow, green purple, pink. The higher the tier the longer she can see the blood similar to say Predator.
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She has only one addon, that allows her to see the blood, and it is an ultra-rare. There are no brown, yellow and green addons for it. Right now it is a bug, and will be fixed in the next patch probably.
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@WhateverIGuess said:
@RSB said:
@WhateverIGuess said:
REEEEEEEEEEE I actually have to learn how to play the new killer REEEEEEEEEEEEEE Trash! Pure trash! Ugh, I'm disgusted!k, now go away wild survivor, shoo.
There is one thing you can't realise with your tiny, 12-year old brain - the fact experienced players can NOW do good with her, does not mean she will stay in the same spot forever. Survivors do not even know how to play against her, don't know they are invisible. Once they realise it, they will bully her to death.
The fact "people" like you are defending her so much is suspicious. When you were screaming for nerfs for Freddy, he was already #########, survs just did not know how to play against him. I wonder in what condition she must be, if you defend her so much?
PS. Stop being such a child in your posts. This thread was a satire/sarcasm, but as always, some survivor must went here and throw ######### at right and left.
Did I say that she will always stay in the same spot? No. They won't bully her to death (because she's already dead hehe xd) because she has a strong mindgame potential that I guess some killers don't know what to do with it.
The survivors I get know they are invisible and try to work with it, but the thing is, I see highlighted blood, scratch marks and I hear them moaning in pain, unless they have Iron Will, so it's pretty easy to tell where they actually are. Fake-phasing is also a very good thing, I stood still and what do you know, Meg vaulted right infront of my face into my arms. Pallet looping is also gonna be quite hard and scary, especially if you are injured. I defend her because she's fun to play as and against, never said a word about Freddy, never wanted him to be nerfed, so there's that.
You recognise, that being able to see blood is currently a bug, and after the fix, she won't see it, unless she runs an ultra-rare addon? That's why I said survivors need to know how she works, so they will trump her. Without all information about her people claim she is good, but actually she is not.
20s cooldwon to use her power is a joke, as well as long charge time and not being able to move while charging. Combine it with the upcoming fix, the survivors who adapt and realise, that while she tries to mindgame them on the loop, they can just walk away from it and hide/go to another loop, stop running while in chase etc, and see how well can she do.
Btw. many people are basing their opinions on streamers' videos, where they play on KYF with the best addons/perks and with people who are casuals and just want to have fun playing with their favourite streamer, sometimes just hand themselves to them just for fun. They are not normal, competitive players from high ranks.
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@JaPonii said:
@CallMeRusty420 said:
But what exactly do you not like about the new killer?The aesthetics my friend, the aesthetics. Shoulda left "The Spirit" to it's own cultural backround to handle, but no. If we left it to them we would've probably got something better.
Hell for all i know The Grudge could've been in the game, what a waste
The aesthetics are actually the best part of this killer. I would rather focus on hear weak power and base kit.
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@George_Soros said:
@RSB I think WhateverIGuess was quite accurate. Some of you guys have been bashing the new killer relentlessly since she's out (what is it, one and a half day?) on every forum, every thread.
First off, it's not as anyone is forcing you to buy her/play her. Just don't play her then, problem solved.
Second: sure, criticize it if you feel she's not quite up there, but you can't possibly think repeatedly saying "she sucks" without some supporting arguments is productive. Maybe she'll get some tweaks. Maybe she won't. In the end, it's not up to any of us personally. It's up to the devs. Get over it.So, if we would criticize her after the PTB, would you accept it, or just, like others, say "It is too soon, she has been out for 1 month only, git gut stop cryin'"?
Without supporting arguments? Really? Go check other threads.
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@Luven said:
First, sorry about my bad English but I really have to tell my opinion.
I really liked playing DBD and I loved it.
BUT I've loved Dead by daylight until the new killer comes out.I love her blue skin, broken joints, luxuriant hair, and the fact that the father who killed her isn't the killer.
When I saw the new killer, I was disappointed to DBD developers.
So far, DBD developers hasn't given a sexual objectification to female characters. ( Hag is stripped but does not feel sexual because she does not look human. )I mean, why did you give her a sexual objectification? She looks almost like a corpse.
Her trailer, her body, her body-painting bandages ( If you were gonna put on a bandage, you should have done it like wraith), her lack back story unlike other killers , breast bouncing, her standing motion are terrible ideas.I even thought DBD developers were different from those who designed the huntress, nurse, and hag.
Don't ask me why I didn't say anything about David. He's a fighter. His clothes are not out of character and doesn't have sex appeal. So don't mention it. But she's dead. Why is the mutilation murdered daughter wearing only a bandage ( even little )? You said she was a college student. Why didn't you put her in normal clothes? If you were gonna put a bandage on her, you should have put more bandages on her.Well, there's a lot of people out here in the debate saying that it's crazy to see dead bodies sexually, and they're telling her she's sexy. It's ironic, isn't it? I've always thanked you for giving us a variety of back story and no sexual designs even they were female killer. But now, you are not. At least you need to modify her costumes and get rid of her breast bouncing ( Kate too ). Lastly, you will need to add more back stories to support her.
Because you're smart, I'm sure you understand. If she come to original server like this, I will be really angry and quit playing games with disappointed mind ( to DBD developers ). It's not a threat, it's a notification. You've done a great job so far, and I hope this time you can improve. I want you to go back to your original mind ( initial DBD ) , and don't lose it. I hope it's an opportunity for you to reflect on yourself.
Did you just assumed it's gender, you white, CIS heterosexual binary catcholic right wing male?
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@ShowMeUrBirb said:
@Tsulan said:
@ShowMeUrBirb said:
Have we seen god-like nurses within 3 days of her release? She's rated as hard killer by BHVR, it means something, and even if she ends up as mid-tier killer, I think that mid-tier killers are fine.
If you want to tryhard and get 24th 4k win in a row then go get nurse. One stupidly-strong-killer-if-you-play-her-right is enough.
Having said that, she needs a better way of tracking survivors. Scratchmarks even with Predator are mildly confusing in grass.Uhm Billy is rated Easy, Wraith Intermediate and Laurie Hard. So i don´t really think the rating means much.
Also the rating changes every season.Billy is rated easy, because you don't have to play a lot to understand his power, starting skill level for him is just vroom around the map.
With Wraith you have to learn when and where to get out of invisibility to make it useful.
Survivors are rated by their teachable perks - Playing with DS (easy), Sole Survivor (nearly useless) and OoO (you HAVE TO know what you are doing) is hard compared to optimal builds.
This rating is based on amount of time to be decent with that character. And does the rating really change every few patches?
That rating is useless, to be honest, it does not say anything about the killer. There are different kind of people, different preferences and minds, one killer can be easy for X player, but difficult for Y player.
Also I do not know if the rating changes, I did not put attention to it.
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@powerbats said:
@RSB said:
@WhateverIGuess said:
REEEEEEEEEEE I actually have to learn how to play the new killer REEEEEEEEEEEEEE Trash! Pure trash! Ugh, I'm disgusted!k, now go away wild survivor, shoo.
There is one thing you can't realise with your tiny, 12-year old brain - the fact experienced players can NOW do good with her, does not mean she will stay in the same spot forever. Survivors do not even know how to play against her, don't know they are invisible. Once they realise it, they will bully her to death.
The fact "people" like you are defending her so much is suspicious. When you were screaming for nerfs for Freddy, he was already #########, survs just did not know how to play against him. I wonder in what condition she must be, if you defend her so much?
PS. Stop being such a child in your posts. This thread was a satire/sarcasm, but as always, some survivor must went here and throw ######### at right and left.
Pot meet kettle, you say stop being childish just after insulting him with a 12 year old brain comment. You do realize how hypocritical that looks right? It doesn't matter if your post was intended as satire or not especially considering your comments in another thread that was satirical.
You can assume she'll have issues all you want but until she actually gets released and any adjustments get made you can't say for certain.
My god, you again. I won't comment your troll posts, because you seek only reasons to start flame wars. Bye, my sweet prince.
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@fcc2014 said:
@ZombieGenesis said:
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Except they patched both previous PTBs mid-run. I believe they patched one PTB multiple times if I recall correctly.
As for this thread, it's just become a place for people who didn't come to the forum yesterday to come and call killers names for, you know, having opinions about stuff.
If they don't buff anything on this killer before release make a post titled. "i was right" I will support you on the post and tell anyone who will listen that you called hours into the ptb.
Horvath already stated, that they don't plan to buff her, so...
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@WhateverIGuess said:
REEEEEEEEEEE I actually have to learn how to play the new killer REEEEEEEEEEEEEE Trash! Pure trash! Ugh, I'm disgusted!k, now go away wild survivor, shoo.
There is one thing you can't realise with your tiny, 12-year old brain - the fact experienced players can NOW do good with her, does not mean she will stay in the same spot forever. Survivors do not even know how to play against her, don't know they are invisible. Once they realise it, they will bully her to death.
The fact "people" like you are defending her so much is suspicious. When you were screaming for nerfs for Freddy, he was already #########, survs just did not know how to play against him. I wonder in what condition she must be, if you defend her so much?
PS. Stop being such a child in your posts. This thread was a satire/sarcasm, but as always, some survivor must went here and throw ######### at right and left.
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@George_Soros said:
AStupidMonkeyy said:@WhateverIGuess said:
REEEEEEEEEEE I actually have to learn how to play the new killer REEEEEEEEEEEEEE Trash! Pure trash! Ugh, I'm disgusted!
Don't come on a forum and start acting like a dou**e for no reason.
Say that to the OP.
If you don't see the difference between my post, and his bait, aggressive post with putting words in my mouth, then I'm really sorry for you.
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@Giche said:
1 week later :"She's fine as she is, devs said so

Quit whining, we all , as a community, worked hand on hand to balance her and make her FUN (TM).
Don't be tahxic
""We got only positive feedback, because negative must be false, so we think she is OK. Also the PTB is over :====DDDD"
My shards are ready for her - the wallet no.
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@Dwights_leftfoot said:
@ZombieGenesis said:
@Dwights_leftfoot said:
@ZombieGenesis said:
Well, I'll say this, we're now over 24 hours since she was released and all of the things people were dubious about yesterday at 2 hours they remain dubious about now at 26 hours. So I'm not sure how "knee jerk" a reaction it was. Again, some people sure made the usual "Killer sucks, garbage chapter" posts but they were actually a minority. Oh well. It is what it is.Still doesn't seem like a reasonable amount of time to start crying about a new killer.
No? Then why are survivors still crying about potential DS and SC nerfs/changes before they're even on the PTB? It hasn't even been 2 hours and you guys won't shut up about those two points, will you?
Fact is, doesn't matter if it's 2 hours or 200 hours the flaws in the spirit's kit are obvious to reasonable people who don't go around telling people they're "crying" when, in fact, all they are doing is discussing things like adults.
I think they are being babies also. I'm starting to wonder if we should ages before people are allowed on the forum. I pointed you out because after watching people play all day yesterday, I was excited to read the feedback. So many negative posts but you seem all over them and the most negative. If she is that bad don't play her or buy her. Play your current main and stop complaining till you see how she is when she comes out of the PTB.
If the feedback would be positive, you would not call people "babies" for "making an opinion on killer 1 day after his release", am I right?
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@Delfador said:
@Dwights_leftfoot said:
@ZombieGenesis said:
Well, I'll say this, we're now over 24 hours since she was released and all of the things people were dubious about yesterday at 2 hours they remain dubious about now at 26 hours. So I'm not sure how "knee jerk" a reaction it was. Again, some people sure made the usual "Killer sucks, garbage chapter" posts but they were actually a minority. Oh well. It is what it is.Still doesn't seem like a reasonable amount of time to start crying about a new killer.
When can we start to cry? After ptb when there will be almost no chance to buff her?
Yes, that would be a suitable time, ask any survivor, he will tell you that.
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@Master said:
I mean, on PTB she has the bug that one of her ultra rares is workign all the time and she is immune to flashlight. now imagine her in the live build.... yikes, freddy seems like a strong man in comparison
In live version, Freddy will have +1 member in his "Freddy's Bitches" club.
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Aren;t you tired of that bait posts/threads?


