Orion

As long as it can. Right now it's still growing. Even if it were to start shrinking, it'd still be one of the most played games on Steam.

in How long will DBD really last? Comment by Orion October 6, 2021

@freak_115 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2545847#Comment_2545847
If they want me to encourage me playing another role! then how about actually giving me Red rank teammates when i'm at a red rank killer and not fake red rank imposters playing more terrible then whenever i face bronze, silver or even Ash rank survivors whenever I'm playing my Silver Killer role!!!!
I still demand this becomes a thing: let players choice what daily rituals they want, a killer or a surv one, cuz this is BS
Not to mention how many survivors troll, DC or whatever when you got that 'safely unhook as .....'
i'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 4 DAYS ALREADY IT'S GOT TO ######### END

If they want me to encourage me playing another role! then how about actually giving me Red rank teammates when i'm at a red rank killer and not fake red rank imposters playing more terrible then whenever i face bronze, silver or even Ash rank survivors whenever I'm playing my Silver Killer role!!!!

That has nothing to do with the matchmaking, it just shows how long they've been playing since the last reset (which no longer affects the actual ranking). Didn't you hear about the implementation of SBMM?

in KILLER MAINS SHOULDN'T GET SURVIVOR DAILY RITUALS!!! Comment by Orion October 6, 2021

@Dhurl421 said:
Not sure on this but my experience is if you main one side, almost all your dailies will be for the other side.
I guess it's a way to get you to play both sides.

There are more killer dailies than survivor dailies. However, if you only ever do the killer ones, then the survivor dailies start piling up, as you'd expect, because you're literally not doing them.

@freak_115 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2545843#Comment_2545843
ow yeah and let those free bloodpoints just rot while DbD could just MADE it so YOU can CHOICE what role you play
Not force you into one

DbD isn't forcing you to do anything, you're choosing to do those tasks for the BP they offer.

in KILLER MAINS SHOULDN'T GET SURVIVOR DAILY RITUALS!!! Comment by Orion October 6, 2021

You know you don't have to do them, right?

in KILLER MAINS SHOULDN'T GET SURVIVOR DAILY RITUALS!!! Comment by Orion October 6, 2021

I can't answer the question without violating several forum rules, so let's just say it's (unfortunately) typical of PvP games and is why the vast majority of the games I paid for are either co-op or single player. If I play PvP, it's usually either a free game, a very cheap one, or one that offers co-op.

in Why is this game so toxic? Comment by Orion October 6, 2021

@StarLost said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2545737#Comment_2545737
I honestly think that you are just here to argue, period :).
Don't worry, I do it too.

I'm not, no, but I also don't think I can learn anything by only hanging around people whose opinions I already agree with where one person says something and everyone else says "I agree".

in What is your definition of "Toxic" Comment by Orion October 6, 2021

@R2k said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2545723#Comment_2545723
They are annoyed because u play the game? If i bring RPD offering I'm toxic? Mb i enjoy it/ mb i want to test some things out? If i bring killer/survivor i enjoy playing I'm toxic? ######### logic is this?
Those who restrict others from playing game the way it is intended are actually toxic. Sandbagging is toxic, intentionally failing every skill check while other guy is trying to fix gen is toxic. But not the map offerings.

Again:

That was my point, that there is no "one definition to rule them all", there are many definitions of what "toxic" means.

I'm not here to argue about your definition, just to point out that there is no "one true definition". Your definition isn't even the one you posted.

in What is your definition of "Toxic" Comment by Orion October 6, 2021

@StarLost said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2545719#Comment_2545719
Shrug. I think that you've have to deliberately be assuming a negative interpretation here. I think you'd have to be astonishingly thin skinned to be offended by 'good effort'.

It's literally what I've heard people tell their small children, but whatever you say.

in Unwarranted toxic behaviour in solo queue Comment by Orion October 6, 2021

@R2k said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2545690#Comment_2545690
If u purposely annoy someone in game by doing something annoying like sandbagging, it's toxic. If u bring offering or perk or whatever and someone is getting mad because suddenly u play the game it's stupid.
U can't call people being toxic if they bring perks or offering u don't like.

But I'm bringing the offering to annoy them, and they're annoyed. That's toxic, according to the definition you posted.

Your definition simply excludes things that are within the boundaries of the rules. That was my point, that there is no "one definition to rule them all", there are many definitions of what "toxic" means.

in What is your definition of "Toxic" Comment by Orion October 6, 2021

@StarLost said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2545707#Comment_2545707
I always prefer 'good effort' or 'well tried' - GG can come over really condescending when you absolutely crushed.

Your alternatives honestly sound worse. They sound like what you'd tell a small child after he or his team lost.

in Unwarranted toxic behaviour in solo queue Comment by Orion October 6, 2021

@StarLost said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2545700#Comment_2545700
They've always been shorter, but this is the first time in the 14 months or so I've been playing off-and-on where they are reliably instant. It at least suggests to me that while the game has a lot of players, fewer than ever want to play the killer role. Which would be quite something if true, considering that the cast of killers are one of the most standout things about this game.

This is also probably the first time in the last 14 months when there's been a new matchmaker.

in SBMM is the nail in the coffin Comment by Orion October 6, 2021

@StarLost said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2545688#Comment_2545688
I don't think this says much though, considering that I get instant queues as killer while survivor can take ages. Something feels very squiffy about an asymmetric PvP game like this where the solo role isn't the power role.

It says that the game isn't dying. Killer always had shorter queues, so it's not like that changed.

in SBMM is the nail in the coffin Comment by Orion October 6, 2021

@R2k said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2544920#Comment_2544920
Bringing offering isn't toxic. U play the game according to it's rules and don't do any harmful things. While, for example, sandbagging your teammate to help killer catch him or just block him in corners is toxic.

What if I bring an offering to purposefully annoy the other players? Is that toxic?

This is why the definition is vague, because you can definitely be toxic and still play within the rules of the game. Note that "outside the rules of the game" isn't even part of the definition you posted, it's something you added to it because it's your definition.

in What is your definition of "Toxic" Comment by Orion October 6, 2021

An ongoing analysis of Steam's player numbers, seeing what's been played the most.

Check the data yourself. There are more people playing now than at any other point in DbD's history, except when the RE chapter was released.

in SBMM is the nail in the coffin Comment by Orion October 6, 2021

@StarLost said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2543818#Comment_2543818
I totally forgot one of my favorite killers of all time. Huh.

As punishment, you must say his name 5 times in front of a mirror. Good luck!

in What Killers Are Left To Add At This Point? Comment by Orion October 5, 2021

Never mind.

in I wish DBD queues/finds you in a lobby more with your friends. Comment by Orion October 5, 2021

@Aven_Fallen said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2542829#Comment_2542829
I bet with that "logic" we can remove every Map in the game.

I'm confident we can, since "making sense" is relative. Quantum mechanics doesn't make sense to most people, but it's not because it's fake or whatever, it's because it's complicated.

in 2021 and Comment by Orion October 5, 2021

Candyman.

in What Killers Are Left To Add At This Point? Comment by Orion October 5, 2021

@Zozzy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2543197#Comment_2543197
Hard to trust the system when everyone knows about the guy who streams themselves cheating and nothing happens.

You mean the guy that nobody bothers reporting because "reporting doesn't do anything"?

in Dead by Daylight's Anti-Cheat is a Joke Comment by Orion October 5, 2021

@Vulgun said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2543193#Comment_2543193
Giving developers the full power is what causes things like this to happen in the first place.
If the developers had no control over what is or isn't fair in Dead by Daylight, we would have most likely already made them patch the game so that stretched resolution couldn't occur whatsoever.
The Smash Bros. community has no input from the developers as to what is fair and what isn't fair; its ruleset is made by people who are knowledgeable enough in the competitive aspect of the games that their word holds more solid ground. The developers themselves have even tried to make tournaments with their own rulesets, but they had ended miserably for a reason. It didn't work.
The developers should have little to no input on what is or isn't fair in a competitive sense, or hell, in this game's case, in any sense. BHVR simply needs to be put on the sidelines while the community itself gets its [redacted] figured out and actually gets somewhere. Only then should BHVR be consulted so that either a) tournaments and streamers are not allowed to use these or b) the developers patch out the ability to exploit the game through these methods, with option B being the better of the two.

And yet, the developers are still the ones with all the power to effect change. Sure, in private, people can agree to follow whatever rules a different group of people want, but in practice, who actually implements things? The developers.

in To the Stretched Res Users Out There Comment by Orion October 5, 2021

@PoodleDoodle said:
You know its a complete joke when you have several large content creators and even prominent fog whisperers outright saying reporting cheaters are pointless and they dont even bother doing it anymore. How patheric is it when the people who are supposed to represent your own game striaght up say reporting is a useless effort and they have given up because bhvr won't do anything about it?

@ElusivePukka said:
When people come in saying "Trust the system, it's the people not trusting the system that make the system not work" you know there's probably something not working with the system :P

It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. If you don't report, no action is taken because there's nobody watching every single trial. Because no action is taken, you then claim the system doesn't work because the cheater you faced didn't get banned.

in Dead by Daylight's Anti-Cheat is a Joke Comment by Orion October 4, 2021

@JustWhimsical said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2543153#Comment_2543153
But you are saying it's okay if it's not explicitly stated to be cheating in the rules your point is as long as the developers don't say it's cheating it's not cheating, so if there is something in the game that offers an unfair advantage to a small number of players to let them benefit from and heavily skews the balance towards them, it's okay for them to continue using that even if it wasn't intended in the first place.
Whether you like it or not what you said is implying that you are okay with these exploits as long as it wasn't said in the rules, that it's cheating, so if hacks weren't in the rules that would make it okay to use against other players. It's a silly argument to make that player shouldn't be able to point out unintended things and call them out as being cheating and it's incidentally defending all these other things and the only thing you are doing is allowing people justification to use these things, just because it's not officially stated by the devs.
And no I wouldn't know that because honestly the way you are saying these things just makes it confusing and muddled, not trying to be rude, but this is what I am getting from you because that is how you stated it.

I never gave my opinion, that was just stuff you made up. If you want to know my opinion, you can just ask.

@Vulgun said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2543133#Comment_2543133
Because, there's a precedent against what you're claiming. Look no further than the community surrounding Super Smash Bros., where the entire community has the power to make the rules, and the developers do not whatsoever.
In many games, players can actually decide what is fair and what isn't fair in a game, and one of two things often happens with that. One, and most common nowadays, the unfair thing is patched out to be more fair. Two, and this is what occurs when games can't be patched, the unfair thing in question is often times banned.
The developers of Dead by Daylight should hold little to no weight in deciding what is or isn't fair for the game. The community is the one that should be deciding these based on any and all factors and evidence involved.
What is considered fair and unfair by the developers is often times moot to the reality, as the developers only look to one part of the spectrum and not the other parts of it, and thus they don't get a legitimately clear picture of what is or isn't fair unless it was just an unintended bug or glitch that occurs because of their mistakes.
When the community can agree on whether something is fair or not is what should matter, and it's what creates an actual competitive philosophy that can be followed by everyone.
Basically, who decides what's fair in a competitive game should be its community. So it's time you and everyone here rip any semblance of power you give the developers and start making your own choices. You do not need your parents (in this case, the developers) to tell you what is or isn't fair. Make your own decisions, make a competitive philosophy and make an actual ruleset that is both neutral and can be followed by most of the community.
All it takes is getting knowledgeable people into a backroom and setting the rules based on next-to-pure neutrality, reasoning and evidence.
That's how other games have done it, that's how games should continue to do it. Giving any value to the developers on whether or not something is fair in a game only makes things harder for everyone involved.

I disagree. Developers can and should take input from players regarding what the players feel is fair/unfair, but, ultimately, the developers themselves are the ones who make the rules. You're probably referring to community-made tournaments or whatever when you bring up SSB, which is not the case in DbD.