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Valentine, if you rejected me, it would be the Deepest Wound of all.
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I got adept Fredward first try ecks deepowerbats said:@fluffybunny said:
@Milo said:
Im tilted for doing the stupid achievement... I need to take a break from it lolWhich one?
Yes which one since there's a few cough adept Freddy cough that want you to bash ahead against keyboard.
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My will isn’t the only thing that’s iron tonight, baby.
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I finally made a meme in video format
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@fluffybunny said:
@No_Mither_No_Problem said:
Baby you’re like a black shirt Claudette.Playing hard to get and then taunting me every time I fail.
Baby, are you legion? 'Cause your frenzy has me feral.
Do you have iron maiden? 'Cause I'm coming out the closet for you.You’re like a generator with Discordance.
I get upset when I find out two people are on you.
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@HatCreature said:
@No_Mither_No_Problem said:
@HatCreature said:
One problem with Thanatophobia is that it is the fear of death, not blood or being injured. So this whle thing about people being injured makes little sense, I mean I get that when you're injured you're close to dying but when a Survivor dies, the perk is weakened because the status effect is lowered and not kept. It makes no sense.I think it would be risky but what if the perk did harmful things for injured Survivors, like normal, but different or more extreme harmful things when a Survivor dies?
But anyway, for your change it's cool, I like that Great Skill checks are gone, that's new. The reduced skill check is cool too because it would go well with Unnerving Presence and Huntress Lullaby. Also adding Ruin with this would make a small Hex Skill Check and that's always powerful.
Well, I think the devs just chose the name "Thanatophobia" to be snazzy. And it does make sense; Survivors are injured by the Killer, and if the Killer has managed to hurt a Survivor, that means that said Survivor, and by extension everyone else, is one step closer to death. Hell, the Perk does trigger when Survivors are dying or hooked, the two health states in which Survivors are capable of dying.
But there are no lasting effects when someone dies. Dwight just saw his buddy Claudette get impaled by the Entity and he isn't shaken up about it, no someone actually died and he got some of his skill back.
I guess they just don't want to give permanent debuffs to Survivors when their buddies die; losing a member of the group in Dead By Daylight is already greatly slimming your chances of survival unless a large number of gens are done.
Besides, a lot of Perk don't make sense. How come when you have No Mither, you never bleed but can still bleed to death?
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@HatCreature said:
One problem with Thanatophobia is that it is the fear of death, not blood or being injured. So this whle thing about people being injured makes little sense, I mean I get that when you're injured you're close to dying but when a Survivor dies, the perk is weakened because the status effect is lowered and not kept. It makes no sense.I think it would be risky but what if the perk did harmful things for injured Survivors, like normal, but different or more extreme harmful things when a Survivor dies?
But anyway, for your change it's cool, I like that Great Skill checks are gone, that's new. The reduced skill check is cool too because it would go well with Unnerving Presence and Huntress Lullaby. Also adding Ruin with this would make a small Hex Skill Check and that's always powerful.
Well, I think the devs just chose the name "Thanatophobia" to be snazzy. And it does make sense; Survivors are injured by the Killer, and if the Killer has managed to hurt a Survivor, that means that said Survivor, and by extension everyone else, is one step closer to death. Hell, the Perk does trigger when Survivors are dying or hooked, the two health states in which Survivors are capable of dying.
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@Slayer said:
@No_Mither_No_Problem said:
@Slayer said:
Why not just 15% for 2 injured , 3- 23% or so , 4- 30%Because we don't want to be the debuffs to be TOO high, even if it isn't hard to erase them. This Perk rewards you for doing the absolute most basic objective as Killer; it shouldn't be mega rewarding, just rewarding enough to be usable.
Its not mega rewarding. I like how everyone says that 15 % is weak but increase it alittle bit more and its already mega rewarding lol
15% IS weak. But if we go anything above 20%, it will be too much. 20% means that you consume 0.8 charges a second, and since generators have 80 charges, this means that it will take 100 seconds to do one gen at base. Anything above that should not be given to the Killer simply for hitting Survivors.
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@Slayer said:
Why not just 15% for 2 injured , 3- 23% or so , 4- 30%Because we don't want to be the debuffs to be TOO high, even if it isn't hard to erase them. This Perk rewards you for doing the absolute most basic objective as Killer; it shouldn't be mega rewarding, just rewarding enough to be usable.
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@Poweas said:
@No_Mither_No_Problem said:
Why is Legion not in all five of those top tier spotsHe can breathe heavier than Myers and that automatically makes him OP
Lol. But nah. Myers is top tier not for his unique breathing but for his mindgames, map pressure and his unpredictability. I'm going to add a bit about his red glow because everyone seems to disagree with me.
I don’t think you understand
They finally made a Killer that can outmatch Myers in the heavy breathing department
This is legendary news and the Killer is clearly the best one
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@NoodleLegs said:
@No_Mither_No_Problemoo yes
Also give each Legion member new idle animations
Frank default dances, Julie hits a fat dab every seven seconds, Joey sits on air, and Susie T poses while singing the Halo theme
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@NoodleLegs said:
@No_Mither_No_Problemserious question
stilettos?
because no one had commented on that and that's why i keep bringing it up.
Just give Frank a skin tight leotard and I’ll be happy
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@NoodleLegs said:
@No_Mither_No_Problemlmao
Well I’m glad my memes were epic enough for a fellow gamer to idolize me
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@NoodleLegs said:
@No_Mither_No_ProblemI have absolutely no idea.
That is the worst goddamn Engrish I have ever seen from a French Canadian tbh
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@NoodleLegs said:
@No_Mither_No_ProblemI literally snorted.
On PS4, the Darkness Among Us chapter is literally called the Kenya chapter.
Uh
Why tho
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@NoodleLegs said:
@No_Mither_No_ProblemI'm a Spirit main and at the moment im leveling up every survivor but I am a Feng Main (play on words haha).
I'll tell you what else is cancer, having a big lesbian crush on a girl and her knowing and you kissed her cheek because you constantly hug.
Feng Min makes me Feng Moan
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@NoodleLegs said:
@No_Mither_No_ProblemI get to decide what's cancer and what's not! I am your reader lmao, anyways, they aren't cancerous but I'll tell you what is, cells rapidly dividing at outrageous rates causing a clump of cells we call a tumor, then the tumor spreading into other organs and causing them to fail.
I’ll tell you what else is cancer
Jake mains and Legion mains
Which is why I am both
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I like Survivor tears on my pizza
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@NoodleLegs said:
@No_Mither_No_ProblemIdk, I just always look forward to finding your posts.
But they’re more cancerous than OchiDO with lymphoma
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This man is everything I aspire and strive to be.
Bless you, my champion.
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“Did you just say the N word?”
“It’s okay, I main Claudette in Dead By Daylight so I’m allowed to say it.”
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@NoodleLegs said:
@No_Mither_No_ProblemThanks, also, omg idk you're kinda like my idol on this site idk why
What the ######### why
I am literally the GenJake of this website except not funny and also not good at the game
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Baby you’re like a black shirt Claudette.
Playing hard to get and then taunting me every time I fail.
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@NoodleLegs said:
@Milford omg yes idk who those are but i supportThey’re the antagonists from Pokémon Sun and Moon/UltraSun and UltraMoon.
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Why is Legion not in all five of those top tier spots
He can breathe heavier than Myers and that automatically makes him OP
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@Milo said:
@t3hp0larbear said:
No_Mither_No_Problem said:@Mrrgle_the_Mediocre said:
@No_Mither_No_Problem said: List of Survivors who are nice to Killers: -Some Quentins -Some Kates -Memelord Jake mains -Roughly 10-15% of Megs List of Survivors who aren't nice to Killers:
-Everyone else
0% of Megs I am permanently scarred to Megs
They all suck and I hate them all and they make me feel sad.
Nah mate some Megs really do be like that
#NotAllMegs
Where the frick are the Dwights?
Dwights are either completely and utterly clueless noobs or pro epic gamers that are second only to black shirt Claudettes in toxicity.
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@t3hp0larbear said:
Accompanied by a new Killer offering that turns the killer into Mike Shinoda, and turns the heartbeat sound into a loop of Shinoda rapping the chorus of "Remember the Name"Except Dead By Daylight is 100% pain
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@Mrrgle_the_Mediocre said:
@No_Mither_No_Problem said:
List of Survivors who are nice to Killers:
-Some Quentins
-Some Kates
-Memelord Jake mains
-Roughly 10-15% of MegsList of Survivors who aren't nice to Killers:
-Everyone else0% of Megs
I am permanently scarred to Megs
They all suck and I hate them all and they make me feel sad.Nah mate some Megs really do be like that
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Toxicity23 said:
This a joke? If so: LOL
Well let’s see I made a Crawling meme from like 2013 and gave you the option to join Legion’s bandPoweas said:Wait is this a joke thread or serious?
What in the name of Decisive Daddy do you people think
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I know this is dead but I won’t let it die
Damn girl, you make me feel like the Wraith because I want to sneak up on you and attack you from the back.
Hey baby, are your titties Rotten Fields? Because they make me go blind.
Call me the Legion because I’m gonna go into a Feral Frenzy inside of you and when I’m done you’ll be left with a lot of Deep Wounds.
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@PhantomMask20763 said:
I want a the doctors strangely shaped weapon as a new item but smaller and less shocky/ spiky . You know so I can play David and have some fun
You make me Dead Hard baby
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@Doc_W__HOLLIDAY said:
Giche said:@Spicybarbecue said:
I mean if you are using noed you DON'T have any skill.
same with ds
same with nurse
these are things bad players need to win games for them.
You're right.
Real legitimate gamers goes to rank 1 with Freddy without using his power.
100% neEds neRFs pls. WAllhAx aRe bAnNabLe yA kNOw!
Ben SharpHandJoe trolls Survivor libtards epic gamer style!
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I would post my favorite one but the Survivor in question called me the N word and I don't want to get banned so sorry
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List of Survivors who are nice to Killers:
-Some Quentins
-Some Kates
-Memelord Jake mains
-Roughly 10-15% of MegsList of Survivors who aren't nice to Killers:
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Feral Frenzy is the DBD equivalent of Ralsei with a gun
Like it's deadly as hell but he ain't gonna do jack ######### with it
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The Survivors that play a lot of that one Survivor really annoy me. I think the character's name is "Survivor".
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@Theluckyboi said:
@No_Mither_No_Problem said:
@Theluckyboi said:
@No_Mither_No_Problem said:
New item: Linkin Park T shirtThe dying state music will be replaced with Linkin Park's "Crawling", preventing the Killer from picking you up so as to avoid the music sounding off right in their ear. If you have Tenacity equipped, the music volume is doubled.
When going against the Legion, press the active ability button to accept their invitation to quit your day job as a Survivor and be the bassist for their band.
No stop requesting nerfs for the legion, i am tired of these survivor mains asking for silly buffs UGH you just dont now how to play the game epic noob
This is a buff to the Legion wdym
They can finally get someone to play the bass for them
shut up survivor main you have no idea on how to play the game
The first part is not true; I’m a Legion main
The second part is very true, but that’s to be expected because I’m a Legion main
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@Theluckyboi said:
@No_Mither_No_Problem said:
New item: Linkin Park T shirtThe dying state music will be replaced with Linkin Park's "Crawling", preventing the Killer from picking you up so as to avoid the music sounding off right in their ear. If you have Tenacity equipped, the music volume is doubled.
When going against the Legion, press the active ability button to accept their invitation to quit your day job as a Survivor and be the bassist for their band.
No stop requesting nerfs for the legion, i am tired of these survivor mains asking for silly buffs UGH you just dont now how to play the game epic noob
This is a buff to the Legion wdym
They can finally get someone to play the bass for them
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@KiraElijah said:
No_Mither_No_Problem said:New item: Linkin Park T shirt
The dying state music will be replaced with Linkin Park's "Crawling", preventing the Killer from picking you up so as to avoid the music sounding off right in their ear. If you have Tenacity equipped, the music volume is doubled.
When going against the Legion, press the active ability button to accept their invitation to quit your day job as a Survivor and be the bassist for their band.
Buddy, it’s kinda copyrighted, and besides WE NEED MCRX, P! ATD, and FOB
“Buddy, it’s kinda copyrighted”
I know you’re memeing but think for a second.
If the devs can get a hold of Michael Myers, Fredward Krueger, Leatherface, and Amada Young, along with respective protagonists+Bill from Left 4 Dead, I’m sure they can fit a Linkin Park song in there somewhere.
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It two Survivors running the new Self Care run into one another, one injured and one healthy, then it will take the exact same amount of time for the healthy one to heal the injured one as for the injured one to heal themselves.
In what goddamn netherrealm does that make any sense?
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Frank: quit your job
Julie, Susie, and Joey: why
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As a Legion main: I think his power should be reworked, but not gutted. I play him like a mix between a stall Killer and a setup Killer, and by that I mean I use Frenzy to create a lot of Deep Wound, giving me more pressure and thus more time to force pallets, until enough are gone that being a 110 M1 Killer is no longer an issue.
This is, right now, the most skill-based and interactive way to play Legion, since it gives Legion time to get ######### done without relying on Deep Wound bleedout exploitation while also making the experience as Survivor more than just "4 hit Frenzy tunnel". Problem is, because his power can't create pressure for jack, this playstyle is almost a guaranteed loss if the Survs know what "doing gens" is. The way I see it, an optimally reworked Legion will not have his power gutted and then remade, but rather changed heavily so that it becomes a pressure power and not a chase power, since as a chase power, it creates all the problems Legion has right now.
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@Theluckyboi said:
Just out of the oven
"Freddy's not bad you just don't know how to play him"
Freddy is bad but you still don't know how to play him
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@Poweas said:
@No_Mither_No_Problem said:
@Poweas said:
I started this year by getting penetrated by a god tier Nurse btw.If you didn’t get penetrated by a Dwight-tier Dwight then it’s none of my concern.
I also got penetrated by a Dwight tier Billy before the year ended.
Only Dwight can be Dwight-tier, heretic.
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@Poweas said:
I started this year by getting penetrated by a god tier Nurse btw.If you didn’t get penetrated by a Dwight-tier Dwight then it’s none of my concern.
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@Tru3Lemon said:
overcharge with unnerving pressence its just too powerful and you want to buff more? wowIt’s not that powerful. If you can hit great skill checks, you can hit Unnerving Overcharge skill checks.
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We back to stealing memes bc i never was original
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@FranksterGankster said:
I think an important thing people are talking about is the concept of adaptation. When playing Legion, if you know for a fact that survivors wont heal, and wont group up, then adapt to your situation. You can always bring Cold Dirt (Fatigue down) and Susie's Mix Tape (Frenzy Speed) for a more aggressive Legion. Just like Wraith, you can be in your power, and exit your power in a position where survivors cant throw pallets or vault over windows and THEN hit them, vs being in frenzy and applying deep wounds to an already injured survivor. Survivors on the other hand can bring perks like Iorn Will, Distortion, hell even Quick and Quiet in order to out-play a Legion instead of being reactionary to Legion. Its all about VALUE, what kinds of perks and techniques will increase the value of what your doing mechanically.The thing is, the disconnect between a Legion without addons and a Legion with good addons is the biggest in the game. I'm fine with a Killer like the Spirit, where they're subpar without addons but can be properly balanced using browns or yellows, but Legion? A Legion with no addons is the worst Killer in the game. A Legion with purple and pink addons is the easiest 4k of your life. That's bad design.
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@Zarathos said:
So let me get this straight you want to make a killer who wins by attrtion as opposed to winning by getting fast downs and excellent play. That does not work in dbd. Their are two killers who were focused on this style of play doc, pig and freddy all are killers who are often at the bottom of tier lists because you can't stall in dbd. You have to act fast getting downs. Snowballing is the key to killer success stall is meaningless.Ff does need more counterplay yes. But focus on that. My idea for nerfing and buffing ff is to make it so legion cannot see blood in ff as well as having pallet stuns reduce his gauge regardless of whether or not its in use. Make missed hits matter with legion by having a missed hit expend 1/4 of his power bar. Do not make mend anymore oppresive or time consuming then it is as with the green and purple knife add ons that action is frustrating to deal with.
Buffs should be to make a deep wound survivour bleed out whilst in chase. But and this is important make it so it cannot bleed out past 30% whilst in legions tr. Finally I like your idea for improving his duration. Currently his duration does need a buff and your duration speed solution would go along way to helping that.
Final thoughts I do not want another m1 killer who gets a free hit and existence is only to stall untill they win via attrition. That gameplay is historically despised. We have enough m1 killers in the game. Power based killers like legion are more satisfying when using their power. Stop pushing doc and freddy killers stall doesent work you need to improve regression reduce gen time in order for this to work which will only push nurse, billy and other strong killers into an op state.
So, I can't exactly understand what you're saying, but I'll focus on your main idea that Legion as a stall killer is bad because of two supposed reasons:
- Doc, Pig, and Freddy are stall Killers and they suck.
- Stall Killers are not fun to play against because they stall.
For your first point, you are egregiously false on several fronts. Firstly, Doctor is by no means a stall Killer. Madness 3 is not a stall ability just because it stops one or two Survivors from working on gens for 5 seconds. The purpose of Madness 3 is to make finding Survivors easier, as is with the rest of Carter's Spark when outside of a chase.
Secondly, anyone who says Pig is low tier does not now how the game works. She is the uncontested best stall Killer in the game because her traps give Survivors a full-on second objective. While a large portion of her stall is based on RNG, it will nevertheless create pressure and excellently slow the game down. Also, her power can be used at loops to do one of two things: Mindgame with a dash and get a free hit, or force the Survivor away from the loop, allowing you to not be looped anymore. Pig is, at the VERY least, mid tier, and that is an objective truth.
Finally, Freddy is low tier not because he's a stall Killer, but because it's too easy to make his power not stall, which, with the way it's designed, that fault is not because his stall is bad—it's because the devs are clowns who don't know how to balance their game. Some of the simplest buffs would make Freddy the best stall Killer in the game—no Self Care wake up and no waking up during the Transition, just to suggest even the slightest thing. Not only that, but the mob mentality of "you have to tunnel with Freddy" is worse for him than many of the weaknesses with his power. I can say from experience: Playing Freddy as a hit-and-run instead of a tunneler will DRAMATICALLY improve his ability to slow the game down since he'll have more than one Survivor asleep at a time—which is something that concerns your second point: These Killers being unfun to play against.
Doc is unfun to play against because his power will tell you exactly where Survivors are without any effort. Not only that, but timing a shock well will leave you unable to defend yourself in a chase for a moderate length of time, since you cannot vault, drop pallets, or use Dead Hard for that duration. That's why he's not fun to fight, not because he's a staller.
Pigs who play well are never unfun to play against. They know perfectly well how to outplay you, and having a second objective with a much higher urgency than generators is very exhilarating as a Survivor—at least, in my opinion. Idiot Pig players who tunnel the guy with the RBT on and think crouching is stealthy aren't fun to fight, but they're idiots. They don't know how to play the Pig. People who do are terrifying, and I love it.
Freddy players, as I've said before, have been brainwashed into thinking Freddy is the tunneling machine. That's why isn't fun to play against. I'll just leave it at that.
In short: All the stall Killers are not fun to play against for reasons that have nothing to do with their stalling.
All this said, back to Legion. Legion is unfun to play against because he cannot apply pressure, and that forces him to make low-brow moves. He'll have to constantly keep Survivors in Deep Wound so he can take the time to break pallets, but because Deep Wound doesn't give him that time, he's just boned either way, so the only way for him to win chases is either cheese Deep Wound or tunnel with Feral Frenzy—something that is completely unfun for everyone.
If we were to nerf these and then buff other areas of Legion that give him power in slower, less direct ways that are more powerful in the end, people who know how to be a good player will dive on this new method of winning if they play Legion. The Legion I see is perfectly capable of being avoided, of being countered, and of being looped, but by giving him more presence both in and out of Feral Frenzy, he can slow the game down to a point where enough pallets are broken that he can't be looped as much, and he has more presence. You don't even need to break ALL the pallets. You just need to break enough. And hell, who's to stop you from getting an easy M1 before then?
I believe that the Legion I have in mind requires good strategy and planning: deciding whether it'd be better to stall or to break pallets or to chase, figuring out where the Survivors need to be for him to plan his next move, deciding if he should combo his Frenzy to slow the game or if he's free to finish off the guy he just hit—it's a fair deal of quick decision making and planning ahead. I firmly believe that there are enough ins and outs to Legion's kit that give him additional skill barriers that raise his skill ceiling further than just spamming Feral Frenzy in a chase. Sure, he's not the hardest, but he's most certainly not a pickup-and-master Killer. He's a learn-and-master Killer. So i we were to buff these strategic bits of him in the way I imagine, I believe his pressure and presence will be at a moderate level, and his pallet-forcing capabilities will be small enough that should he genuinely reach the point where he can M1 all the time, then that Legion played very well and the Survivors have nobody but themselves to blame.
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@Chi said:
@Zarathos said:
wladimiiir said:"You can be a best looper in the world and The Legion still gets you." - that's what FunGoose said in one of his streams adding that playing against The Legion is annoying. I agree, it is annoying when all you can do is countered easily. Legion counters people who just cheekily try to get your attention but on the other hand he has hard time against sneaky players - that's my experience from playing The Legion.
Wait a killer who promotes stealth gameplay and makes it so you have to juke the killer instead of running him around like your pet dog. Devs pls nerf(sarcasm). Seriously its the same with nurse and spirit lose the killer he has a fundamental exploitable weak point of not having scratch marks while in ff.
You cant loop a legion so op is a a pathetic excuse learn to shake killers. Survivors have gotten to use to looping every killer. Now we have a killer who anti loops and its immediately no counter play. I spent a 15 min game consistently shaking a legion by breaking line of sight and hiding around corners and debris while he was in ff.
LOL. You think playing stealthy is juking? Seriously? Playing stealthy just takes a little bit more skill than camping the hook as killer lol.
I mean your pfp is Thotdette so you probably know what it's like to be immersed