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@Jack11803 said:
Can I nerf your opinion. I believe it’s absolute trash, and you should be cleansed from existence, and forever have a p3 Claudette t-bagging the place where you once stood, with your grave marker merely saying, TOXIC
Ochido will forgive my sins...
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Can we nerf the discussion boards?
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- Myers - Always have a blast when I play as him.
- Freddy - He has his flaws, but if you look past that he's actually really easy going for a killer. I'm always relaxed when playing as him.
- Doctor - My beloved farmer. I love him with BBQ and Distressing.
- Clown - He's not out yet, but I can see his potential. Defiantly viable if played right.
- Huntress - Don't play her much, but when I do I really enjoy her pallet denial. Even if it's weaker then the Nurse.
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Doctor is oppressive with the 3 gen strategy but he's far from OP if you're experienced with his kit.
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The trade off for body-blocking is that the survivors that are blocking you are not working on generators. This give you more time to manage them. Also if you do manage to injure the majority of them, it gives you an advantage in a chase should you chase them.
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It's really not that difficult. With a lack of updates this game had you have to find something to waste a bit of time. I don't care about the badges, honestly I find them a bit pointless.
Besides when the new update drops I'll probably be here a lot less.
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@ThePloopz said:
Is that really the reason lol is that what they said in the chat afterIt wouldn't surprise me if that was the reason.
This game attracts entitlement.
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@MusicianDavid said:
True but they could implement a nerfed version. I don't know what it would be. Maybe healing yourself without a medkit would result in a status effect such as exhaustion. I don't know but there must be a way it could work.
That's... actually not a bad idea.
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Players complained that they weren't enough survivors at high ranks when the emblem system dropped. It's was adjust so players might not wait 10 minutes for a 5 minute match.
Its not so much a balance issue but a matchmaking one.
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@MusicianDavid said:
Would it be game-breaking if they made it a default? (Self-Care was built in to every survivor).Yes, because killers would be even worse balance wise.
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@MusicianDavid said:
That's true. I wonder what percentage of survivors run Self-Care.Devs did a statistical analysis of the perk where it suggest that it was picked 21% of the time.
Keep in mind, that's a high number considering you can only use one perk for one perk slot. It's the most popular perk across all platforms, all ranks.
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This perk is fine honestly.
It's just outclass by the survivors meta. It's a very useful stealth based perk.
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I like Tyde but disagree with his tier list.
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1 minute and these are pretty entertaining so far.
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@weirdkid5 said:
@Mc_Harty said:
@weirdkid5 said:
Complains when someone points out how unbalanced the game truly is when people play optimally with these potentials. Hmmm
Believes the opposing team should cater to a play-style and if they don't, blame it on game balance. Hmmm.
Looping and DC'ing isnt a playstyle. It's utilizing broken mechanics and doing a bannable offense.
Looping isn't a playstyle. Hey, whatever helps you sleep better at night.
Also I never mentioned dcing is a play style? I certainly mentioned that it was a ban-able offence. What are you talking about?
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@weirdkid5 said:
Complains when someone points out how unbalanced the game truly is when people play optimally with these potentials. Hmmm
Believes the opposing team should cater to a play-style and if they don't, blame it on game balance. Hmmm.
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@weirdkid5 said:
Weren't you the one who said yourself the game should be balanced around what each side has the potential in doing?
So where's the balance?
The game being unbalanced does not mean that the killers are useless.
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Can't I pick both? That's an option the devs can do you know.
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@weirdkid5 said:
I didnt post this to rub it in the victory in their faces. I made this mostly salt induced post to highlight how frustrating Killer gameplay can be, despite being able to pull off a Victory. I have plenty of stream examples of me getting destroyed as Killer with a depip and enjoying the match because the Survivors didn't go out of their way to sap every ounce of fun the Killer could possibly have.
You gloated that this was the worst match you have experience then boasted to all of the survivors they are hypocrites if they don't cater to a play-style that favors you.
You even bragged at them at the end of the match. ie What a sore winner would do.
And now you're playing victim on these forums relying on the perfect survivors argument to claim everything a killer does is pointless.
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@weirdkid5 said:
That's an assumption that I wouldn't still give them a fair chance at the unhooks. I wouldn't stand there for a minute waiting for them to get to struggle state cause that's the only way to ensure they wouldn't hop off. As stated by many, I don't know how the others would have chased me so I likely still would have given chances. The moment they all 4 dc'd is the reveal of toxicity.
So they still give up? Earlier you derided me for supposedly giving up, but that's exactly what they did. Doesn't matter how minimal the chance is.
So you are essentially justifying a bannable offense because "they already lost," and don't call them sore losers? The match didnt fo the way I wanted because of several of my own mistakes. The survivors are unable to take the punishment they so graciously give out. You can keep calling me a sore winner all you want.
I never said they weren't sore losers.
I said you were a sore winner.
Example; this thread.
They can be toxic all they want, I actually don't care. If they DC too much then'll get banned obviously. You can't control human behavior. Its an non-issue if you're in a situation where you clearly won.
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@weirdkid5 said:
They did give up. You still have a chance with an unhook via self save. They didn't let the Killer enjoy the victory and get the Sacrifice points. This could still cost a Killer his pip, as it has in the old system.It's called being a sore loser.
You would have just downed them immediately after. Besides the odds of that happening are minimal.
They already lost when you slugged them. Complaining that a match didn't go the way you wanted it to, despite clearly being victorious, is the definition of being a sore winner.
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@Dragonredking said:
I can pretty much assure you that in any competitive scene if someone win just because all your oponent decided to give up mid game said someone would be "a sore winner" because he doesn't deserve the win to begin with.And before people get in saying it isn't a competitif game, it is.
As long as the only existing mode is a ranked mode against other humanbeing it is a competitif game.They didn't give up. They already lost when they all got slugged.
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@weirdkid5 said:
I'm not saying for you to not, as a person, rely on your favorite or best addons. USE THEM.Agreed.
What I'm saying is if you DON'T use them, depending on the Killer you play, you will be doing yourself a MASSIVE disservice. However, if you CHOOSE to not use them, it should be JUST AS VIABLE as NOT using them, especially since addons are RNG and you might not even get good ones, especially if you are low level.
See this is where I disagree.
I shouldn't be able to play effectively without add-ons. What's even the point of them otherwise?
I understand if its showing off but it shouldn't come to the point where a killer not running add-ons can consistently beat survivors.
What would even be the point in leveling up your web if you could just play as well without them?
I'm not saying I don't understand, I'm saying its odd. Even odder on the survivor side since majority of the time they don't even use the items in the game and are still able to perform well enough to survive.
The game should be balanced around the potential of what both sides can do.
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Bragging rights
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@weirdkid5 said:
I'm not saying don't. Who said I did? I even stated earlier addons are meant to be used. I said they shouldn't RELY on them. Meaning the KILLER ITSELF is so weak that they MUST use addons in order to even have a chance at winning because their BASE power is horrible. Such as Doctor, and yes, Doctor is a weak Killer at high rank. He's super dependent on his build and addons because base he is lackluster.
Why shouldn't they be relied on?
They make the game easier for the killer. Should I rely on perks for the Hillbilly? Or Nurse?
Besides what else are you going to spend those blood-points on once you gather every perk on every killer.
Learn the difference between the KILLER relying on something and the PLAYER relying on something. Billy doesn't NEED BBQ or addons cause he's good without them. Same with Nurse, and I also do not NEED BBQ to win, clearly as I didn't even get to use it so whatever point you are making here is moot in general. Obviously you should run stuff that gives you an advantage like wut lmao
So we are in agreement for once.
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@Tsulan said:
Please don´t start a war on BBQ. It benefits survivors as much as it benefits killers.
Or do you really miss the times before BBQ when the forum was full of threads about camping killers?Oh I'm not starting anything on BBQ. Just pointing out the complete oddity where you as a killer don't want to run add-ons yet are willing to use perks to boost your perform in the match.
Like why the ######### would you not run something thats gives you an advantage?
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@weirdkid5 said:
You are not always in that kind of position to approach, and even if you are, you act like they can't just sprint burst past you once you miss the swing.No but then again you should plan where you're coming from to make it harder for the survivors to use their sprint burst.
No, it needs to be completely removed because it only makes the game more mind numbing. It shouldn't exist at all.
Hello Mr. Entitlement when is Mr. Salt coming back to the forums?
You also play a Killer that is really solid as genstopping, but not at securing Kills or really effective in chases. Freddy gets to waste a lot of time after he puts Survivors to sleep, other Killers can't afford this luxury.
Yet he's one of the worst killers in the game, more susceptible to 4 man SWF squads compared to any other killer.
If I can do well with his limited kit, then other the killers should by default.
I mentioned they did it. I didn't say it made me angry. It was a icing on the cake my guy. I teabag in other games, but I also expect to get rocked if I do it.
Oh please if it didn't piss you off so much why make this post?
Nice assumption.
Not an assumption if you admitted it.
I wouldn't have popped off if they didn't DC I'll just say that.
You were pissed off.
I never give up, again, nice assumption.
I always try to play my best. My problem is the Survivors never have to play their best.Yet you refuse to do anything that requires the game to take longer, so forgive me if I wonder why you don't play your best.
Not a sore winner, again, I talked no smack until they left. The quit set me off, call me a sore winner all you want though.
I'm sure, your not lol.
See above post for aforementioned Trapper. You also reference the depip squad, and no amount of mindgame tactics work on the,/
They do. Just the killer doesn't have enough time against them.
Marths squad only proved that the generators are too easy to complete and when the SWF are have a competitive mindset set to deny the killer his victory at the cost of their own, they're difficult to play against. Nothing more.
Subjective for different gameplay styles. Also proofread kek
Ya got me there, I'll be sure to proofread next time Mr. "When are is"My mistake, Mr the,/.
Billy doesn't need addons. Nurse doesn't need addons. Every other Killer pretty much depends on them because their powers are only halfway decent in a chase, so they must be augmented. Sure, addons should be used. But a Killer also shouldn't have to rely on their usage.
So you shouldn't require abilities to use in the game to boost your performance.
So when are you going to stop using perks then?
Hillbilly is garbage if he has to rely on BBQ
Top kek.
It's not really a tactic to chainsaw people's faces when they literally run up to you.
Mindlessly chainsawing the closest survivor isn't a tactic.Its a tactic to leave them on the ground.
You sure you play killer?
They also know which pallets are broken cause of team comms so they simply avoid that side of the map and SB away from it the moment they get near it. You act like you just get to decide which way a Survivor runs after vaulting a pallet, window, or SB'ing away.
You can if you play right. My fault, I forgot you just mindlessly follow survivors and get stunned most of your matches.
May as well be.
Shows how little you know.
Tell that to the depip squad you so happily referenced before.
I'll make sure to send Marth the bits on Twitch.
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@weirdkid5 said:
Not really a thing when Sprint Burst is meta. What happened at the start is what would happen trying to get them "before" they get to a pallet. The will SB left or right, and be at a pallet basically in no time flat.Which is why you need to get them to sprint burst away from the pallets not towards it. Position yourself where the survivors are at a disadvantage if they try to run past you towards the pallets.
Because I realize how unnecessary this level nonsense is. Looping is a terrible mechanic that needs to be removed from the game completely. I can lead a 3 minute chase without looping, I know it sounds crazy, but it is possible.
And because you think its a terrible mechanic no one else should be able to use? That's entitlement in a nutshell.
So you are basically saying their team isn't going to relay to the guy I'm coming back to the generator he is at, giving him time to get to a pallet before the heartbeat even starts? All of these tactics you are giving would be great in the event you are against 4 solo players.
No I'm saying to find an effect way to waste their Sprint Burst.
I just gave an example of what I usually do against 4 man SWF and it seems to work at least for me.
I'm not angry because of the teabagging, that's just icing on the cake. I'm angry at the poor mechanics at play.
You mention in the OP;
Where is your sense of respect and honor? These guys had the gall to call me a tryhard, but seemed to be a full 4 stack, looped me, teabagged me, taunted me, disrespected me as a Killer at every opportunity, and then quit my game when they get bodied?
You are quite clearly more mad about their behavior more then just ######### game design
Slow down the game? I've tried this against a 4 stack before, trying to focus on the gens in the event that there is one left. Even in a 3 gen situation, the amount of coordination they can use pretty much trumps a 3 gen strat. Against solos, sure, you can do a 3 gen. but as a Killer you have to commit to a chase at some point. If you're just dropping chases to get gens and chase people away, they are just gonna talk to each other and relay exactly when it's safe to go back. You must chase someone at some point. SWF groups can overcome a 3 gen pretty easily
So you give up then? Don't even bother to make their lives harder? What a defeatist attitude.
If you don't want to play your best, that's on you. I rather do everything I possibly can against the survivors in order to win. If someone dies, I'm happy.
You bringing him up as some kind of dismissive argument to mine is laughable, that's all that is.
You think that you not being a sore winner is laughable. Learn to move on from the salt.
Still somehow managed to win.
Still posted salt in the forums.
Seen it. Again, I play Survivor and a good Survivor simply won't fall for these tactics. I can show you a Trapper I went against doing this stuff and guess what? He ate every pallet.
Then that Trapper clearly hasn't seen the video.
When the next guy is just gonna do the same? No, it isn't.
When are is the next generator going to be popped? Yes, it is.
LF is still garbage and Myers can still only do it a few times. Both are midtier to low tier at best.
Not sure where you got from that I said Nurse was oneshot, but any Killer can be oneshot with the right perks. There are at least 3 that give oneshot. And yes, Huntress is garbage without addons. Hatchets are easy to dodge and at pallets, you just don't throw the pallet. A good Huntress is scary, but she's addon dependent.
Addon dependent = garbage
You clearly stated:
I like you are giving advice that would literally lose the match for any other Killer that isn't Billy or Nurse because keep in mind, every other Killer would have to land TWO hits as opposed to one.
Learn to proof read. kek
I stated 2 other killers whose default power can hit survivors in one and 2 more that rely on add-ons. It's got nothing to do with how good they are it's to prove that your statement is obviously false regarding killers ability to one-shot.
By the way, what do you even do with add-ons if you don't use them lol? Get outta here with that #########.
No, because they made the mistake of trying to be overly altruistic. There's no tactic involved here on my part.
It was a tactic because you used their weakness. You manipulated their over-altruism.
How is that not considered a tactic?
A good team will callout where the pallets are, and they'll just SB in that direction the moment I pop up.
You know which pallets you've broken try to funnel them into the areas that give you an advantage.
Its not rocket science.
Team comms are a thing.
So is managing 4 survivors.
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@Boaris030 said:
I’d say he’s pretty solid mid-tier, after I got better at throwing the tonic bottles and being less salty i had some good rounds with him. I’d put him on the same level as Michael Myers. I also absolutely love how he’s skill based, that’s my favorite thing about him. And in my opinion because of that he can reward good plays.Better then Myers? Interesting.
Any tips for the bottles? I got a hang of them to know how they act with the arc, but I'm clueless about where to exactly throw them to be the most effective.
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@AsianMammoth said:
For example, check 5:10. You think there was any mindgame possibilities in that loop spot in which the Killer would have an advantage? Nope.Umm, 5:10 just shows calculated killer lunge distance. What are you talking about?
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@weirdkid5 said:
And? Billy still gets looped. For the most part, using your chainsaw during a loop scenario is a bad move.Who said anything about using Hillbillies chainsaw against loopers?
I said to try to get them downed before they get to the pallet. Key word here is before.
You do know I'm a survivor main so I know how to counter Billy myself right? Before they get to the pallet? In a meta with Sprint Burst? Pfft ok my guy. SB beats chainsaw everytime simply because they have much higher lateral mobility, and by the time you charge the chainsaw, they are super far. You can catch up, but they'll be at a pallet my guy.
Who cares if you're a survivor main or a killer main? That doesn't mean squat when you make as many mistakes as you did.
I'm fully aware of the chainsaw/sprint burst issue. Its not that ######### hopeless for the hillbilly. They can still catch up to the survivor and if you're really insecure about that perk so much you can always move on then come back to the generator within 40 seconds.
They can't use the perk when its already used up. Think for once other then mindlessly following them for the entire match.
They play toxic and you expect the receiver to not get angry? That's some next level assumptions going on.
Lol they are trying to get you angry. People tend to make more mistakes when they are not thinking rationally.
Ok, then one of their buddies is just gonna walk up and stop it instantly after they relay that over comms.
So don't try to slow the game as effective as you can, gotcha.
Freddy is the worst Killer in the game and the fact you just accept him for how he is shows me your level of bias.
Me not complaining about survivors or pallets because I play Freddy does not mean he isn't #########.
Nice strawman.
Still beat a 4 man SWF.
Doesn't matter you still played like #########.
You didn't answer my question. What trickery was I supposed to use? Need I show you a clip of a Trapper trying to "trick" me on pallets, and I stun him literally every time?
Try here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crgMmyoDzNQIts certainly more usefully then whatever it is you were doing.
That's exactly what you should do. Leaving a pallet up is absolutely stupid. Leaving a vault up? Yeah smart.
As opposed to investing too much time in one survivor that can run you around for 4 generators?
Yeah it is.
Billy still gets looped.
So why bring him up?
I just merely pointed out that you were playing as him.
LF is garbage, Myers can only do it a few times/has to use addons.
Addon dependent = garbage.Seem to have missed the point
Leatherface and Myers are instadown killers. You claimed that only Hillbilly and Nurse (for whatever reason) are the only killer that can one shot the survivors.
Also Huntress is garbage? ######### kek.
But they didn't win.
Because you played a tactic they didn't predict. See how effective that is?
You can't chainsaw people if they are looping. You will lose that battle.
You can use the chainsaw and surprise the survivors working on the generators... then encourage them to go towards the shack since you have wiped out all the pallets near there.
Earlier you stated they do this because they have someone designated for this? It isn't hard to loop or learn the pallet placement dude. If you don't know it, you're a bad survivor. A good killer always assumes everyone is a loop master.
If you're just chasing one survivor that survivor is obviously going to know which pallets are destroyed. This makes it easier for that one survivor to keep you busy because they have the full map to use against you.
If you can't understand that you're a bad killer.
It was the point of making why Killers dislike most Survivors; they are hypocrites.
It took you one bad game to release that?
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@weirdkid5 said:
I didn't play "awful." I played subpar to what I usually do. This whole following thing is how you win at Rank 1 dude.Subjective.
- It's been about a month since I played Killer.
So what did you expect?
- I always try to have two people downed as Billy. It's my tactic and when you present that opportunity to me I take it. More time wasted on the Survivors is good.
Agreed but you didn't waste any of the survivors time now did you? All you did was break a pallet at that point.
- I picked her up cause I figured I could make it to the basement. Again, it's been a month since I played Killer.
You should have looked around for a closer hook.
- Sorry, but dropping the chase against a looper is the dumbest thing you could do. 4 gens popped during that chase. What would have happened if I dropped her is she would have healed, I would have had to search for someone else, and she would just hop on a gen herself. I've played Killer enough at high ranks to know dropping a chase is the worst mistake you can make. Not to mention, the next person would have just looped, causing me to lose progress if I dropped the Feng. Survivors WANT killers to drop chases cause that's how they win games.
You're playing the Hillbilly.
He's the least punished in finding other survivors and applying pressure on the generators. So what if she heals herself, that's 1/4 of the time not on the generators with Self Care. Besides its not like you could instadown one of the other survivors with your chainsaw before they could get to the pallet.
And no, survivors want the killers to chase only one survivor around the map. Know why? That survivor has the knowledge of which pallets are used and which aren't. I dunno about you but I rather test my luck on a survivor that doesn't know which areas are cleared of pallets rather then the one that does.
- She teabagged, played emotes, looped me, and every Survivor in that game completely disrespected my power as a Killer. When you down someone, and all 3 players converge on you, there's a problem. It's quite clear they were a 4 stack, and in case you didn't know, SWF is quite overpowered in this game.
Survivors disrespect me by not playing the way I want them to play.
Jesus Christ, do you even read what you type out lol?
Why should they respect you? That's some next level entitlement going on.
- While in the world would I drop the chase to bust a generator? What kind of logic is that? Give the Survivor more distance just to break a gen someone else will walk up to and stop the regression? Please.
You literally were 5 meters away from that generator.
And you're the ######### Hillbilly. Its not like you can catch up to them.
- Sore winner? Good sir, unless you have actually played Killer at high ranks and experienced this kind of stuff yourself, you don't know the frustration. I wasn't a sore winner. I was venting because of how annoying the match was.
I main Freddy lol. Trust me I've put up with more bullshit then you are willing to obviously accept.
You don't see me consistently complaining about the survivors looping me or looping should never be part of the game.I'm not a Killer main, I'm a Survivor main.
So what you still played like ######### that match.
Attempts to trick the Feng? How? By hiding my red stain, when they have a third person camera? By trying to fake out and go around a different way? That would just give her more distance and reset the loop.
You played the exact same way on every loop. This made you predictable. She already had gained enough distance in the map by the time you broke half of the maps pallet spawns.
Also its not like you're the ######### Hillbilly where catching up to the survivors isn't a problem.
Literally going around the other way against a looper is a terrible decision.
Literally breaking every pallet on the map is a terrible decision. You need variety against the survivor.
For example she knew that you didn't respect pallets. She drop the pallets earlier to keep herself safe. She also knew you broke every pallet that was immediately dropped, letting her get much more distance.
This is something that was discussed over a year ago on Steam forums. Against a full team of decent loopers, if you don't simply follow them and force the pallet to be dropped ASAP, you will lose.
You lose regardless.
Look at Marth's squad. They can barely loop for ######### but can get out in the majority of their matches. SWF typically have that advantage with communication and the objective being so brainless.
I like you are giving advice that would literally lose the match for any other Killer that isn't Billy or Nurse.
Yeah it's a shame you're not playing one of those 2 characters.
because keep in mind, every other Killer would have to land TWO hits as opposed to one.
Leatherface
Myers
Trapper and Huntress with the right add-ons.This is how high rank killers play because this is pretty much the only way to win. If you try to play "mindgames" around a loop, you waste too much time.
If you're predictable as a killer its an easy win for survivors.
They know you are not going to chainsaw to them, letting them repair the generators with ease. You didn't have any perks that help slow the game down out all so at that point you really should be invest in time not there's a survivor over their. Better break all the pallets on the map.
She was super dependent on the pallets, she did not attempt to lose me at any point, she just wanted to waste my time. There was no attempt on her part to actually lose me, and when their plan didn't work, they all quit.
Should she? She was quite clearly effective at getting your attention. Its almost like when she teabagged you that's what she wanted. I wonder why that is...
@Runiver you see this? Apparently we should start dropping survivors and breaking gens midchase.
Yeah @Runiver you play billy right? Anything that could help with @weirdkid5 performance in that match? I think he needs some lessons.
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You played awful that round.
- You missed a very obvious chainsaw hit - you even stated that you ######### up
- Why would you drop the Claudette to break the pallet? You should have just hooked her then broke it.
- Why would you then pick her up? It would have been better to down a fresh survivor and leave her on the ground. She would have had an easier time to get out compared to a fresh downed survivor.
- Survivors shouldn't try to body-block to save their teammates and get points. Noted
- You just followed that Feng Min all game. There were no attempts at all to trick her. This made you lose time because you were too invested in one survivor. You just kept running into and breaking the pallets. You didn't make it difficult for her at all to keep you busy.
- Only the Feng tea-bagged. Once, when you hit her. So every survivor in that round was toxic?
- Also while chasing you failed to regress any of the generators. There was one nearby the shack that was 50% that could have saved you more time.
- You already won when you slugged the fourth survivor. The match was already decided. Stop being such a sore winner because they ragequit. ######### happens.
It was wise to slug that survivor near the pallet. If you picked her up no doubt the others would have stunned you, forcing you to drop her. But, Jesus man, if this is how your typical killers play, no wonder you hate pallets.
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@CallMeRusty420 said:
I never said it was a bug. I said it was a mechanic fix. And how am I biased? That comment came out of nowhere. IT's true that survs are too OP and should be nerfed. It's no secret either. The only one who seems baied here is you bud. Relax.If its a mechanic that needs fixing, its ether a bug or a rework.
I honestly don't care if it was a bug fix, rework or a nerf. Its a good thing overall.
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Freddy is better then Wraith.
Cue the shitstorm.
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@DarXide said:
There's jiggle physics now? Why doesn't the Clown's belly have it then? lolHe does?
In the store menu.
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@AlexAnarchy said:
Not like your innocent of putting words in my mouth either, even though that post was'nt just about you, I was posting more a less just as an overall.This entire thread has been you putting words into other peoples mouths then when someone corrects you, you retort to 'they're bullying me'.
I believe you said:
@AlexAnarchy said:
Yep, I'm gonna quit my ######### now and just continue stealthing better than you can : P
Sorry you and ploopz suck at it.When I quite clearly stated that I main Freddy and you can't stealth him.
Quit your ######### sir.
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@AlexAnarchy said:
I'm also gonna wait for Ploopz or Mc_harty to show some actual proof I ca'nt win by stealth even though I'm the one here who's posted some actual tips on doing it, so obviously I'm terrible at doing it right? : PFor the last time, you can't stealth a Freddy. You have to distract him long enough for the team to complete the generators.
Also I never said you couldn't win by stealth. I said you can't stealth a Freddy.
Jesus and you say we put words into peoples mouths. Quit your ######### sir.
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@ZeBee said:
Speaking of which I just got 4k 4 iridescents on him https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1398191409 which you can do on anyone, but I still suck at himlol, nice to see I'm not the only one that picked the blue suit for him.
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@ThePloopz said:
Dude he either doesn’t know how or just refuses to read. We gotta start sending him voicemailsI honestly think he plays too much killer, he thinks that anything the survivors do is brainless.
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@ZeBee said:
The new killer has A LOT of extra bits on him, you can throw the bottles to cut survivors off, its not the best to just throw the bottles at the survivor unless you have addons that make the effects last longer. Using a bottle at a window makes it a slow vault just fyi and if you use it at the pallet their vision gets a blurry and you can mind game them if they stay for too long. Theres a lot to this killer imo hes mid-tier hes not #########, but hes not the best either. he has a good balance
Exactly.
He's no Hillbilly or Nurse but he's not that #########. He's balanced atm. No one knows how to properly play him or play against him yet. Give him time.
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@AlexAnarchy said:
Don't even know where I said anything about pallet looping when I talked about freddy, but you and ploopz suddenly enjoy putting words in my mouth so who knows at this point. shrugs...What.
This is a thread about Pallet Looping. Of course we're going to be talking about Pallet Looping. And its quite clear that earlier in this thread that you quite clearly hate it.
You, from earlier in this thread:
@AlexAnarchy said:
...Pallet looping is not at all the only way to win and never will be...@AlexAnarchy said:
Reality is, when someone chooses to take unintended gameplay mechanics over intended gameplays mechanics, that person has bought the wrong game.@AlexAnarchy said:
...pallet looping is not good for the game. period.Quit your ######### sir. If you can't get over a mechanic that has quite clearly been in the game since the very beginning then you obviously need a ######### break.
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@AlexAnarchy said:
But yeah, poor freddy has'nt realized that all he needs to do too escape the dream world is fail a skillcheck...too bad killers ca'nt do skillchecks right?Because it's not like whenever someone fails a skillcheck I know about it and put them immediately back to sleep. Quit your ######### sir.
Pallet looping is staying in the game unless the developers dramatically rework killers like Freddy.
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@AlexAnarchy said:
Alright you go ahead and keep calling out my ######### sir , while I do just fine stealthing freddy and you continue to not be able to do so : P
And yeah, I can admit, you ca'nt stealth him in the dream world DUUURRRRRR...Your'e supposed to get out of that as fast as you can : P
Maybe that's where your issue is if your actually being dumb enough to try stealthing in the dream world.Lol I main Freddy. I'm not the delusional one demanding that survivors cater to a play style so I can play well.
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@Caretaker said:
There is no special tech with him. You throw the gas, they get slowed. You have to be ON THEM for the gas to be effective. Otherwise they drop the pallet and just make even more distance. Nothing has changed. He's a clown by design in every way possible.If you know how to throw the bottles and where to throw them, he'll be viable as a control killer.
The slowdown is effective to catch up to the survivors, forcing them to drop the pallet early and why would you not be throwing the bottles at the survivors at a distance anyway? It's not like you slow down when using the bottles.
What perks are you running with him? I'm doing fine with Enduring, Brutal Strength, Coulrophobia and Overcharge.
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@Caretaker said:
Please explain how the gas stops the loop. A minor slow? That stops Sprint Burst? That stops Decisive? That stops gens from being popped SUPER fast? That cuts uber safe loops? I am playing him, my first match went ok, every other match is swamp or badham with BM squads. At higher ranks which I am, is nothing but gen rushing, teabagging, pallet loopers. He doesn't do anything better than any other killer. He's a poor man's Doc.
If they stay in the gas they are slowed.
If they leave the gas they are slowed for 1.5 seconds.
If the survivors are hit by the gas, their vision is blurred making it easier to mindgame them.
He has add-ons that can increase the range and duration of the gas and one that can negate exhaustion perks.
Use him as an area denial. Loopers are going to have a hard time if you throw the bottles in the right spot.
Players are struggling with him because he's new. Learn how to play as him.
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He plays somewhat similar between Huntress and Doctor. His slowdown effect is really useful to catch up to the survivors. I primary been using the add-on that gives the survivors exhaustion and he seems to do really fine with it.
Seems like you want to throw the bottle ahead of the survivors so they can run into it, giving you an advantage before they reach the pallet.
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Just play however you want.
The survivors are already doing that while they are tea-bagging you.
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The Reddit post said the update was shipped, not live. Big difference.