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Spirits really good. She doesn't need ruin. When a Spirit is using ruin it's like a Billy using ruin securing the 4k or a bad Spirit. You can do well without addons at any rank as well. I started to stockpile them recently because I no longer use them.

in I can't believe there are some people who say Spirit needs add ons to be the second best killer Comment by Liruliniel September 4, 2019

@Awakey said:
I'll pass.
I like my prayer beads, Instaheals, and ebonies. I also have no issue playing against them.
Edit: As well as my DS, Adrenaline, and Iri heads.

I agree with keeping everything since I find Iri Heads at least somewhat skill based. Prayer beads I wouldn't mind at honestly being changed just dont change them to ultra rare.

in As a 1,1k hour killer main Comment by Liruliniel September 4, 2019

@CoffengMin said:

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/84387/survivor-killer-cosmetics-you-use
head on?i see you are a min of culture aswell.
also im using kates biker skin at least spiritually for now

I've been excited about that outfit since announcement. Excited for the new Min cosmetic and the contest demon slayer outfit when they drop too.

I like combination builds that work well together.

in Survivor/Killer Cosmetics you use. Comment by Liruliniel September 4, 2019

@MegMain98 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/665567#Comment_665567
She is well liked in the DBD community. She usually places very high on voting lists of most liked survivors (male or female).
I tend to run into very rude Nea players.

Where are the votes for these just outta curiosity. Am curious to see how people rank survs.

in Jane Privilege? Comment by Liruliniel September 3, 2019

@chieftaco said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/665554#Comment_665554
thank you for advising me not to play survivor for blood points. FYI, i get more BP playing survivor than most killers ever will (on average). the only thing makes me have low scoring rounds are teammates that don't actually understand how to play the game in a manner that makes it fun and rewarding.
this is one of the main reasons i enjoy solo queue so much. playing with "friends" usually just has you on a team with a bunch of potatos.. in solo queue, i may get potato teams, but if i put a little effort into avoiding immersed player looking lobbies, its not as hard as you might think to find some actual super-fun games. even if that means half of the people on the team are actively trying to get me killed, that's much better than half of the players on the team kickin back and watching me die. plus, i reserve the right to play anything i want in whatever manner i want.
understand that i am only here trying to help newer players out.. there aren't many people that have even a fraction of my hours, still play daily, and still enjoy it..
as for it not being the survivors' fault i'm being camped, you are correct.. it is the survivors' fault i'm STILL being camped because they have not extended their skillset enough to be able to help in this situation, nor are they even trying to. they think we can all just blame the killer for being an a-hole together and move on as friends. that's just not the way it works.

Ya no problem I just learned who to effectively farm with and at what rank with as killer. At rank 10 with Spirit using BBQ&C and Ruin without Addons or offerings. I avg about 60k a game. Well your lucky honestly I can't stand farming BP'S with survivors. So I give you massive props for that.

I switched to a killer main awhile back because I wanted a break from survivor. It ended up being on PC all I play is Killer while on ps4 all I do is Survivor anymore.

Cant really argue with you on any of the other points because I've been there on both sides. Though as Survivor I would rather play with friends honestly. I'm prolly the potato survivor of my group.

in Let's talk about nerfing camping Comment by Liruliniel September 3, 2019

@prettyf said:
so this is mega nerf for a key
if killer not want to slug its buff for last survivor
pre-spawn hatch now only benefits killer to confirm all kill
from egc its much better than slugging but thats the problem now
how easy to confirm all kill as killer and how gay as survivor
i always giving 3gens before last survivor and find the hatch
killer don't have to be a first, just find hatch before open and that already confirmed all kill
its much more disgusting with nurspirits, because our asian playerbase play them like 3/4 times
how unbalanced between killers made them play those two killers
people mostly quit from how unbalance every shits in game
survivors can play their role too ez and how impossible good with wm1 vs good players
how ez nurspirits and op, how we feel hopeless when we watching what na/eu playing looks like
15ranky in reds

Just curious are you saying something along the lines of "if a killer slugs for the 4k or finds hatch first they get a guaranteed 4k easily? Especially with the Asian playerbase majorly playing Nurse and Spirt while the Americas and European players typically play other killers?"

in hatch spawn only last person left, its much balanced for game Comment by Liruliniel September 3, 2019

Funny I'm more likely to give the Feng the hatch due to her being my main. I really only give the last survivor hatch if I think they did a good job and deserved it. If I don't I'll hook them it's all about my feelings though. If you wiggle I'll instantly just hook you after a warning swing tho.

in Jane Privilege? Comment by Liruliniel September 3, 2019

@chieftaco said:
@Liruliniel if i'm going to depip either way, why would i help the people that are forcing me to depip by taking longer for me to earn my depip when i could already be in another game earning big time BP and having a blast? just curious.

Not the survivors fault your either camped or they are aware of the progression bar so grab you after a bit. If your being camped you can at least help them try and escape I understand if no one came for you on first stage and still not coming with you not being camped ofc. Also dont play survivor for blood points. After grinding all perks on my survivor main from survivor alone and then doing the same on my main killer. Survivors get a pitiful amount of BP'S in comparison.

in Let's talk about nerfing camping Comment by Liruliniel September 3, 2019

@UlvenDagoth said:
It's as bad as going against a SWF that built for Haddonfield.

Nothing quite as amazing and wanting to go for another map so you put up a offering. See them either instantly DC or get dominated in another map.

in Blood lodge is cRaZy Comment by Liruliniel September 3, 2019

@chieftaco said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/665465#Comment_665465
if i'm on the hook right now and people don't unhook me within 60s, it's not uncommon for me to forget to hit the struggle button so i can move on to the next game. 60s is a very good amount of time to rescue someone.
if you want me to hang there even longer, i think you'll be surprised to see that nobody's going to want to do that (beyond players that just don't know any better)

If I'm being camped I'll wait it out since it means 1 or 2 people will escape the game. Your going to depip either way you may as well help the team out. I see tons of people just get on a hook and if no one immediately comes get them they just die off.

@ad19970 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/665446#Comment_665446
Well that's why the progress bar should go back to normal whenever a survivors is also within x meters or if the killer is within a chase.

Survivor part I wouldn't mind, but chase part not so much.

in Let's talk about nerfing camping Comment by Liruliniel September 3, 2019

@chieftaco said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/665446#Comment_665446
a good survivor would not loop the killer within X meters.. that's what a really bad survivor would do, just FYI.. a good survivor would do what it took to get the guy off of the hook.. looping the killer next to the guy on the hook guarantees the hooked person isn't coming down (most of the time).

I agree as it is now since that just guarentees a death, but with those changes it would become more common practice as there would be no risk to the hooked survivor except maybe exerting some finger strain lmao. I feel as Borrowed Time becomes even more common since it would be BT and DS making that a brutal and effective combo.

Just my thoughts on the killer proximity to survivors stopping the progression bar.

in Let's talk about nerfing camping Comment by Liruliniel September 3, 2019

Honestly I can't think of a good counter to camping as the killers who do it generally just dont care. I honestly hate people who do it. Low ranks I fully understand as people haven't yet started the journey as a killer, but I would like a solution other then reduced emblem.

The progression bar cant stop if killer is x meters near simply because good survivors will loop the killer within x meters.

in Let's talk about nerfing camping Comment by Liruliniel September 3, 2019

@Yamaoka said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/664910#Comment_664910
According to @Liruliniel you can get your first down in 15 seconds which says a lot about the survivors he goes against.
Nobody needs ruin (or ANY other perk for that matter) to beat that kind of survivor.

Never done a cross map snipe with Billy? Blinked on top of survivors with Nurse? Phased to people with Spirit? Hit people with a Hatchet then meleed them for the down with Huntress? Stalked with Ghostface for a instadown? Instadowned someone with Leatherface? Yes it is possible in the first few seconds to down someone with these killers before survivors have a chance to get adequate cover.

Do I need to spell out the game for you too? I stated when you can get survivors down i didnt say it was regular i even stated which killers are good for it. This requires some information on your spawn locations of survivors and your ability to play. Ruin or no Ruin this should be possible to locate survivors. Everything about this game is RNG, but after thousands of hours everything starts to make sense how survivors move, where they spawn, good vs bad pallets and loops.

Everyone loses games even me, but I do quite well at rank 1 without ruin. I dont find it stressful at all simply because I never really used ruin very much. I like to believe I have stopped needing it a long time ago. Are there matches where I think "if I had ruin?" Yes. I would highly advise people to record there gameplay and look at it. Everyone has had ruin pop instantly and gotten 4k's problem is people dont wonder if they can continue this trend or if they do they get crushed the next match and go back to ruin.

Also on a side note I really do love your name so props.

@FriendlyGuy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/664825#Comment_664825
K man. What if all survivors are good loopers? I loose right?

Let's say 2 survivors spawn at the location you go to correct? One attempts to get your attention and One either tries to hide or run away which is the correct to survivor to chase? You should know the answer already.

@Predator3174PL said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/664825#Comment_664825
15 seconds to down someone?
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/854/DYDAKBK0J09A.jpg

Please see the first section of this post. I'm not saying every killer can do this, but I am saying it is quite possible with certain killers based on how they play.

in Ruin Buff Comment by Liruliniel September 3, 2019

@FriendlyGuy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/664638#Comment_664638
The problem is not applying gen pressure while they are on hook pressure anyway. The problem is applying gen pressure/hoon pressure before three gens pop.

Ever since EGC has started we no longer need to worry about the first two gens popping. We also have enough anti gen perks currently in the game before the release of Stranger Things too accommodate these issues.

If you know the average pathing of a survivor plus the locations survivors typically spawn you can get your first down within 30 to 40 seconds of the game. If your a faster killer at obtaining downs like Nurse, Billy, Huntress, Spirit, Leatherface, Ghostface you can have a down within the first 15 seconds of the game.

If you prefer to chase a survivor over kicking a gen that's not the fault of the game it's YOURS. Even if they run away you have scratches/blood to follow. Even if they sneak away you have common sense on locations they would hide in or at.

Typically survivors spawn in multiples on locations as well. So you can figure out which survivors the looper and which survivors bad at it from the reaction if you drop down on them immediately.

Are you saying you have been playing this game at high rank for x amount of hours and never had your ruin pop within seconds of the game starting and gotten a 4k? If that's honestly the case then the problem is not the game or the survivors it happens to be you.

in Ruin Buff Comment by Liruliniel September 2, 2019

@Predator3174PL said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/664510#Comment_664510
Try apply pressure on the whole map with weak killer. In time you might get one hook, 1 or 2, or if survivors are smart, 3 gens might be poped. It's not hard to use toolbox and hit great skillchecks in red ranks.

Its not hard man not quite sure why no one bothers to actually try instead gets stomped on for a few games and runs back to ruin.

@FriendlyGuy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/664510#Comment_664510
Gatekeeper wants to know your location.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/84757/ruin-buff
I just thought how hilarous it would be, if the survivors just do ALL totems before the gens and ruin is just like it has never been there.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/664564#Comment_664564
You got a really good point here. Imagine the next meta really being something like:
All survivors "Inner Strenght" instead of "Adrenaline", three survivors do one totem and one survivor two totems right at the beginning of the match. When the last gen pops all injured go in a locker to heal up.

Chasing the 3rd survivor while one remains hooked and the second is on the ground. Leaving the fourth to either help the team or finish the gen.

in Ruin Buff Comment by Liruliniel September 2, 2019

@Sauceman_Tim said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/664510#Comment_664510
Ummmmm yeah that's hilarious. Let's see you "pLaY efFecTively WiTHout RuIN" and play weaker killers. See how much fun you have with SWF

Already done. I dont need ruin to play and get 4ks against SwF with any killer at high ranks. Fact is I learned how to apply pressure a where and when. When to acknowledge when a chase was bad and identifying weaker targets and how to push survivors away from target areas.

I realized ruin was a handicap a long time ago. People find it early and last few months people at all ranks are proficient at ruin checks. The single biggest advantage of ruin is securing a hook before gens pop. If your good at chases as you should be at high ranks learn spawning locations you can get the first down before a gen pops.

in Ruin Buff Comment by Liruliniel September 2, 2019

@TrueLegend said:
Survivors very often spawn right next to important totems.
Changing the totem spawn locations is one way of solving this problem, but it still isn't reliable.
I suggest having hex perks have their totem burn only a set amount of time after the trial has began.
Say you have ruin, the totem will be selected after say 30 seconds and only then burn so that survivors don't instantly run into the totems while finding an objective to complete.

Or you know learn to play effectively without ruin.

in Ruin Buff Comment by Liruliniel September 2, 2019

@Zixology said:
I see so many people crying about DS being too OP still. Their only argument is that they see "every" survivor using it.
Let's think on that for a second...
DS is an anti-tunneling perk. Nothing else. So if "every" survivor is using it and you keep getting angry about that; it only means two things.
You tend to tunnel quite often if you're hit with DS as much as you say.
Most people tend to tunnel quite often if "every" survivor feels the need to run it.

It does suck though when you dont tunnel and do get hit because in 60 seconds you have downed someone else and found them. I mean it sucks cuz you get stunned, but your usually in a winning position at that point

in You're Mad At Decisive For The Wrong Reason Comment by Liruliniel September 2, 2019

Its necessary for people who have yet to learn proper distribution of pressure between survivors, gens, map. You dont need Ruin at high ranks it's just recommended by a lot of killers who instead of learning how to play killer properly they insist ruin is needed and necessary in every killer.

Though I still use it when I decide I would like a easy game for the match. It's highly effective at what it does unfortunately it also teaches you to ignore good time management and when to abandon chases.

Also highly discourage the use of Bamboozle, No One Escapes Death, and Spirit Fury for the same reasons.

Then again I'm a bit of a oddball who's willingly let the game be more difficult so I can play easier at the long game.

in New-ish player, sell me on Ruin being fun as a killer. Comment by Liruliniel September 2, 2019

@December_1863 said:
So I got a job today.
My plan is to buy a PC in a few months from now, but I don't know if it's worth losing all of my progression on the console version of the game.
My original plan was to wait until the devs would release cross platform progression, but I gave up on that idea because it won't come out anytime soon, and it probably won't come out at all.
I just want to move to PC, because I hate bad framerates, ######### sensitivity and the lack of other features. Is it worth losing all of my progression?
Good day.

PC version will probably last longer since the next gen of consoles are getting lined up for release next year. I play both using my experience I quickly leveled up killers for good builds.

Also the framerates issues was never that big of a issue for me when playing ps4.

in Switching From Console to PC Comment by Liruliniel August 31, 2019

@Bongbingbing said:
I love her, Her power can be used in chase but also help give map pressure. My only issue with her is prayer beads, While I think it's fun to have a scary game like that once in a while I can see how it can be a bit OP.
I don't understand the hate around her lately from survivors. Not every Killer needs a Direct counter it's asymmetrical for a reason. I feel like if they added more counterplay to spirit it'd wreck her, Her power is kind of fragile that way.

Because shes hard to counter efficiently even if you know what your doing. So everyone yells for a nerf so they can get a easier game. Sad part is she has a bug letting you know she's in phase. Yet people still can't seem to figure her out. Her biggest strength is chases and mind games. Yet her single strongest weakness is actually a competent stealth player. People dont want to adapt to using stealth they prefer to loop a killer who effectively is designed to have the best chase potential outside of Nurse in the game.

in What does everyone think about the Spirit? Comment by Liruliniel August 30, 2019

@Alice_pbg said:
Im rank 10.
Takes me about 5 mins to get a match going. And thats when it takes long.
Maybe its a location thing...

Possibly I'm r3 as survivor and get lobbies within seconds and r10 as killer and get lobbies within about 5 mintues.

I haven't really been playing outside dailies and if my friend can get me off another game.

in Everyone taking a break or?.... Comment by Liruliniel August 30, 2019

@Carlosylu said:
I adore her, Red ranks in surv and killer sides bwt.
As killer: The mind games are fun AH to play!
As survivor: ONLY if the killer mains her or dominates her it's one of the hardest games ever. No tunneling nor camping has to be involved for me to categorize this killer as fun to play against.

This here

@artist said:
fun to play because she has no counterplay without perks
awful and boring to face because she has no counterplay without perks

You can win against her without perks. Remember shes tier 1 because of her mind games and chase potential.

in What does everyone think about the Spirit? Comment by Liruliniel August 30, 2019

XD I like maps that are balanced for both killer and survivor. Even though my l time favorite killer map is heavily survivor sided.

in Survivors that offer the shattered glasses: why? Comment by Liruliniel August 30, 2019

@Mochan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/659233#Comment_659233
Good loopers don't even need perks to loop.
I learned to loop recently and I don't use any of the usual perks. The only looper perk I use is Balanced Landing, I sometimes use it because it's just so good for looping on certain maps.
I always spec with dumbass builds, you know ones with No Mither, Flip Flop and Tenacity.
I wouldn't say I'm good at looping but I can waste some of the killer's time even basically perkless (sometimes even at a disadvantage like when I have No Mither on).
But I think people who are good at looping and use the perks can really ruin a killer's night by extending the chase for minutes. It's these people using DS and Dead Hard that really ruin a killer's night.

Agreed I just wanted to point it out. I have recently gotten better at a looper. Still super inconsistent about it though. Sometimes I have days I can't loop for 10 seconds and others I can loop all 5 gens. Least I'm starting to get to where I can loop for a full gen guaranteed anymore. I only use BL when I have a spot open since it opens so many loops. Exhaustion perks make me more cocky then I should be.

in Just started playing killer for the 1st time Comment by Liruliniel August 30, 2019

@Mochan said:
A lot of people use those perks and stuff in all ranks. They're meta for a reason. Even solo survivors do this.

Sad part is that there meta because a lot of people need those perks to compliment a playstyle they are not that good at. I've seen some of the best loopers and killers running perks people dont ever use.

in Just started playing killer for the 1st time Comment by Liruliniel August 30, 2019

@JawsIsTheNextKiller said:
Also , if you do not lobby dodge, you end up playing SWF groups that everybody else has been lobby dodging. Because they get lobby dodged every evening, they have little opportunity to get to the rank they belong and you end up playing an imbalanced number of toxic swf groups.
I see Mrs JawsIsTheNextKiller's toxic SWF group sat there for an hour waiting for someone to accept 4 Blendettes with toolkits and instaheals and she says, "Why can't I get a game?", and then good guy/gal @About8Genjis takes the challenge! Good on you.

Always find it amusing how people dodge SWF say that SWF is OP and have never really had the chance to play against them or learn tactics. They wound rather dodge most days then actually learn.

in Just started playing killer for the 1st time Comment by Liruliniel August 30, 2019

@GrootDude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/656137#Comment_656137
I generally try to use strong windows against her or attempt to guess her path at pallets, I’ve confusing them can work but usually isn’t the best move.

It might just be the fact she's one of my mains so I know how she works and what I do. I just do the opposite of what I like to see usually xD.

in So... bullying Spirit mains is a thing now? Comment by Liruliniel August 28, 2019

@GrootDude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/656100#Comment_656100
Stealth play isn’t spirit counter play, it is a strategy that works against every killer, we’re referring to her chase counter play.

My bad I was speaking specifically it's good against her since her ability lies in chase potential. Best thing I have can say would be path switching. You have 5 seconds to attempt to confuse them. If you can confuse them they could end up far enough to screw them. It's not something you just auto learn tho.

in So... bullying Spirit mains is a thing now? Comment by Liruliniel August 28, 2019

@GrootDude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/655974#Comment_655974
Not saying I don’t, just saying that spirit doesn’t actually have much counter play. I’m ok with that though.

@Peanits said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/655982#Comment_655982
I would argue that she actually has less counterplay than most killers (not Nurse levels, though). Her counterplay is more related to which perks you brought, which makes it a little more rough. If you didn't already have Iron Will equipped, oof.

Her biggest weakness is a blendette. That style of play is the opposite of what a Spirit wants. Luckily everyone prefers to loops.

in So... bullying Spirit mains is a thing now? Comment by Liruliniel August 28, 2019

@[Deleted User] said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/654971#Comment_654971
I am running anti-Spirit and anti-Nurse build: Dane With Me - Iron Will - Quick and Queit - Lithe, so stop saying people are not trying new things. It works but not always and her chase potential is insane. If she has Stridor she will hear you anyway and good Spirit will get you. Also running 4 perks just to have better chance of countering 2 killers clearly says something is off here. She has too many cues while survivors are not getting anything. Her phasing in TR is gone, out of TR is not directional. You cannot even tell when she is or is not vaulting windows. Now imagine Nurse - she is standing still while blinking and only becomes visible after 2nd blink to score a hit. Would that be fair? I do not think so, well that's how Spirit works.

I only use Iron Will, Quick and Quiet, DS, Random Perk lately head on due to the animation. Losing killers is not hard you dont need to devote all 4 slots man.

in So... bullying Spirit mains is a thing now? Comment by Liruliniel August 28, 2019

@Awakey said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/654126#Comment_654126
Oh I guess this was a misunderstanding. I thought you were complaining about Spirit's skill level. I mostly agree with what you said, Survivors refuse to adapt. I apologise.

Nah it's cool man. I actually love Spirit straight out of the box both mechanically and cosmetically. Shes the reason I went from survivor main to 50/50. My only issue is people saying change the rarity on Prayer Beads. If its moved to ultra rare it will become more popular. It also severely needs a rework.

in So... bullying Spirit mains is a thing now? Comment by Liruliniel August 28, 2019

Honestly it's about 50/50 I dont seen many licensed killers, but usually when I do I see them all day for the most part. I think orginal content is better, but I do like my Pig xD

in Would this game be even as half alive as it is rn if it wasn't for licensed dlc's? Comment by Liruliniel August 28, 2019

@StupidButTru said:
Why is it with each update is there a new thing to complain about? Originally it was vaulting, that got nerfed into the ground. Then it was Exhaustion perks that got nerfed. Then it was DS that got nerfed after a while. Then it was Borrowed Time, that perk has been through the wringer. Throughout all that time only a few people has once complained about Generator time, then now it's all the rage. Why does it seem like every time survivors has to adapt a new playstyle just to be able to survive this happens?
Even they complain about SWF but nobody really wants to play with a group of people who just UE their way around the map or get down after 10 seconds of a chase, or farm their own teammate because they want to get their alturism points. Hence why people get a group together, it's inevitable. Killers aren't to suppose to always get 4ks and survivors aren't suppose to always survive. For some reason that pisses off a lot of players but that's how the game is suppose to be.
I'm not talking about all Killers of course but quite a few.

Competitive games make people very competitive. With new perks, new metas, new issues, new killers the game starts to evolve. This creates issues on both sides of the board. The game was pretty balanced and is to a extent now, but the game will eventually tip to either being killer sided or survivor sided again. (My votes killer sided)

Killers want the 4k and Survivors want to escape. The Devs have stated the ideal model would be 2 escape and 2 sacrificed. This is happening in some games at lower ranks, but realistically one side is usually stomped harder then the other. This happens for many reason the biggest being Skill levels.

Such issues include toxic behavior, infinite loops, tunneling, camping, mori cancelling (seriously who thought this was a good idea?), bullying from both sides, waiting for hatch to spawn since it no longer needs gens done (stupid imho), bullying new players by either deranking or playing smurf accounts, misplaced terms i.e gen rushing/camping/tunneling, etc. All of these go in circles.

People dont seem to realize that on the other side of the screen is another person so whenever something bad happens they either take it out on them or take it out on the next person (who's innocent and about to repeat said circle).

Like any competitive game Meta's change and as a result the outcry for what needs to be fixed is changed. DS for an example needed to be changed it was clearly broken it made killers lose any momentum in the game. People will say I'm wrong, but the fact is even now a single DS can cause a killer to lose this momentum. Well killer shouldn't tunnel? I have personally as a Survivor been hit and DS after another survivor has been hooked and done this to a killer.

TLDR:

Metas change for everything as a result new outcry for nerfs will happen.

in The Trend I See with Killer Mains Comment by Liruliniel August 28, 2019

@Mtom912 said:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/117/HLDM42MXY7FS.jpeg
For the arguement of someone just stocking up on Ebony’s, It’s the same with add ons, I refuse to ever use prayer beads, but the fact it’s possible I can use them for 69 games, and everyone knows how fun prayer beads is to go against

Since you also seem to be just gather addons in Spirit. Is it me or is Prayer Beads more common then the amulet?

People all wants beads moved to ultra rare, but the reality is Beads will potentially become more common this way. With a guaranteed spawn of at least 1 ultra rare. Even if they moved fathers glasses to another rarity that leaves 3 ultra rares a Spirit can get. On the other hand I see Beads potentially once every few bloodweb occasionally I see it 2 times a blood web.

in "But Ebony Moris are rare!" Comment by Liruliniel August 28, 2019

@Mtom912 said:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/117/HLDM42MXY7FS.jpeg
For the arguement of someone just stocking up on Ebony’s, It’s the same with add ons, I refuse to ever use prayer beads, but the fact it’s possible I can use them for 69 games, and everyone knows how fun prayer beads is to go against

I'm dont even bother with addons anymore outside of SWF if I get the feeling people are toxic was just curious to see how high my addons would get while I attempt to get all perks on her. I usually only use Moris for Dailys and people who wouldn't eady up in a lobby.

in "But Ebony Moris are rare!" Comment by Liruliniel August 28, 2019

Because forcing Billy into a M1 scenario is better logically. Evading his chainsaw is nice, but oddly never consistent in my experience.

They were just mad they looped you to the point you can't M2, but unlike some Billy's you resorted to your M1 and crushed them.

in Why people complain about Hillbillies using m1 on loops? I can't understand! Comment by Liruliniel August 27, 2019

@Awakey said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/653128#Comment_653128
Spirits risk factor is so low even though it so obviously is?

Shes low risk because despite her powers cool down, the fact she can't see people in phase. She still functions without phase and her power very well for a manageable 16 seconds. Any semi good Spirit can learn to manage the cool down. You can use the Spirits phasewalk in several different ways to apply pressure. It's when you start putting them together you can become a better Spirit.

High reward part. I shouldn't have to handfeed you the information on this otherwise there would be less threads about her.

Overall Spirit is Low Risk High Reward because survivors let her be. There's a reason Spirits worse at lower ranks compaired to higher ranks. Shes forces a playstyle that "good survivors" dont want to use and instead complain shes too Strong and OP please nerf.

If it makes you feel better Spirit is indeed one my Mains you know of 4 different killers I commonly use so I have seen hundreds of different tactics against her. I have adapted to Spirit and very rarely lose too her because instead of just accepting shes too strong I changed my build. I evaluated what was strong on my survivor build and what was weak. Instead of complaining your usual Meta builds not up to the task of Spirit maybe you should start evaluating the meta and what perks are good against these "top tier killers"