KaoMinerva
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Rank 12? Shut up lol
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@Peanits said:
I meant to post this along with my other message but I completely forgot, but on the topic of maps, I figured this would be relevant:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/704/ES3UTUYMZF09.jpg
That's the average survival rate per map. There's definitely some maps that are higher than others, but the overall range is between ~39.22% and ~53.60%. Not an insignificant difference, but not massively unfair for one side or the other. I'll let y'all take a look and do with it what you will.
We can't trust it because it doesn't count DC, suicide on hook, etc
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Spirit is fine. She didn't need any nerfs
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@ScottJund said:
People complain about it because there is essentially no counter to it. If you're bringing Spine Chill and Premonition in every match in the off chance you just happen to run into a Prayer Beads Spirit, you're kinda already wasting two perk slots every game for two mediocre perks (compared to the best survivors have).
Pretty much, it negates all skill. The best Survivors in the game can't just randomly predict the killer is a Spirit with Prayer Beads as they get grabbed off a generator - that's an awful feeling. You don't feel like you got outplayed, you just got cheesed.
You mean like how most killers HAVE to run RUIN or HAVE to waste 2 slots with Spirit Fury/Enduring? Yeah...
Prayer Beads are fine. Use a Mandatory slot for Iron Will like Killers have been doing for RUIN since Hag release.
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Prayer Beads are fine. If you're sick of spirit, run Iron Will like the elite survivors do.
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@Blueberry said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/517525#Comment_517525
Yeah we don't see threads get this big that often. The majority of the community is in agreement on how weak Plague is and that she needs help. Hopefully this thread helps them realize that.
Lol good luck with that. The nerfs after PTB proved where the powers that be wanted this killer
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@OMagic_ManO said:
They even said Pig is not RNG, there are keys.
They're low ranks. Everyone knows pig is trash
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@RoKrueger said:
Patch notes: Blink now stuns the killer for 2 seconds BEFORE she can do an attack. Movement speed reduced to 50%. Survivors rank 20 where having trouble with Nurse, it was not a fun expirience for them.
Actually, she would be in need of buffs because at low ranks, nurse is trash 😎
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@Arroz said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/516358#Comment_516358
Why?
They are only gonna touch her add-ons.. (btw)
I don't trust them to even do that without a shadownerf or something
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@GrootDude said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/517072#Comment_517072
They did listen to us, MoM is getting nerfed.
It shouldn't have been in the game in the first place. They used it to cash grab Ash
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@TheShape78 said:
The developers have already said they are aware of his issues, including the spotting knocking his power off, the loud noises he makes, and 20 seconds not being long enough to put down a survivor, among other issues . They said they are going over feedback and are working on him as we speak. They confirmed these fixes will be ready in time for the June 18 release .
Which will be super underwhelming
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@LordGlint said:
Dead by Daylight Devs- Were planning on looking at and tweeking some addons for multiple killers
Dead by daylight community- OMG EVERYONE!!! THEYRE GONNA NERF NURSE!!! WHY DONT THE DEVS EVER LISTEN TO US!!!
seriously people, you want devs to listen to you while at the same time NOT watching the Q&A and blowing up over a rumor of something that was NOT said.
The issue is they don't listen. They haven't since Spirit PTB
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Survivors just want her loopable
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@Arroz said:
Can you stop being pessimistic and instead of blaming devs give some arguments and feedback why nurse shouldn't be nerfed?
I'll take this post as a bait
Devs shouldn't touch nurse AT ALL
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@gantes said:
Wraith's changes literally made him MORE viable.
He's not viable at rank 1? He can be with add-ons which is better than most killers.
And complaining about new Legion is definitely not valid. Wow, you have to work for your chases now and you still pip for free even if you kill only one person. I feel so bad for you.
If you want to complain about Legion or Plague not being fun to play, that's highly subjective, and in Plague's case I tend to agree. But neither of them are weaker than most of the other M1 killers.
Dude, they literally NERFED legion in every single way and you're going to just ignore that? You don't understand WHY nurse & Billy are the best killers. Let me say it for you slowly...
THEY... DO NOT.... NEED... ADD ON TO STOMP!!!!!!
Saying that a killer is good because add on isn't s good argument. Yes, Wraith can stomp, but against elite survivors, even with the best add on, he's fodder. Billy & Nurse can stomp ELITE survivors without add on... Easily!
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I find it funny how you guys only want the threatening killers nerfed for some reason.
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No way they'll make LF a threat. I don't trust it
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@Micheal_Myers said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/67204/nurse-nerf-stupid-move-%F0%9F%A4%A6
Uh... someone didn't watch the Q&A...
I believe they were talking about Freddy's addons or Something about buffing leatherface or tweaking Addons of different Killers...
And they said Nurse is one that was going to get an addon or 2 Tweaked.
They also said Some killers need an ultra rare addon. So... Tweaking doesn't mean Nerfing, it doesn't mean Buffing.
Just calm down and be patient. You don't have to be toxic towards the Devs because you don't like something. Heck Every Freddy Main WANTS Freddy's rework. Myers? He's fine. The Pig I understand the Frustration.
But, you can't just blame every little change on the Devs. Some of the community wanted those changes and you are now being toxic about it.
I get it "Ghostface Weak"
"Pig Weak"
"This and This Nerfed"
Like we all get it. we hate certain things in the game but this post seems overly Toxic and doesn't provide them any feedback to get better.
Like, we all know somethings are an issue. Just try to be calm and actually explain things you want to get changed for the better in constructive feedback, instead of blaming the Devs for most changes that the Community wanted.
This type of logic is why these devs are so out of control. We've been patient bro. We've bought all this dlc and glaring issues are still present! 4 or 5 killers can stand a chance at red ranks despite there being 15 killers! That's an issue bro.
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Yeah but let console players tell it, Nurse is stomping. I play nurse on console too. She doesn't stomp lol. Survivors are just way way worse and actually will try to loop her.
Loop a nurse, yes lol
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@Watery said:
Nurse can be broken, but her addons need more attention than the Nurse’s power itself.
period.
So OMEGABLINK and other stuff is gone, because that stuff is frustrating to against.
Just like LOOPING is frustrating. Gen rush, ex hex cleanse, etc but what have the devs done? Nothing. They won't erase looping, they won't fix hex and they refuse to do something to stop this gen rush. It's a damn shame a perk is MANDATORY to gain some kind of momentum. Even if it's 10s stall, ruin has done it's job!
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@Mellow7 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/512068#Comment_512068
Pretty much sums up the butchering BHVR did to legion, instead of making him better they just took every note survivors wrote down in their book of nerfs and applied them in patch.....
And that's exactly what they did to plague too. Survivors complained she could get all the way close so they nerfed her.
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They've had enough damn time. We're tired of their bullshit!
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@NoShinyPony said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/512351#Comment_512351
@KaoMinerva You really have a point there. In pretty much all aspects, this game isn't even balanced for green ranks (not even talking about purple & red).
Sure, Omegablink- and 5-Blink-Nurse are too powerful, but if this is going to get adjusted, other things like insta-heals also have to get adjusted.
Nerf nurse to hell right, but compensate with THE REMOVAL OF LOOPING! That's a conversation Survivors don't want to have!
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@applepie_1998 said:
The issue is Nurse Is too reliant on her power. And the fact that with addons she either has a huge map presence or has many second chances with the extra blinks. I’d rather they make it into a cool down type power and then buff her movement speed to 110%. That way she isn’t too reliant on her power.
But of course killer mains dominate this forum so I highly doubt it will happen.
Hell no dude she's fine. They balance this game and r20 players. Nurse is THE WORST in lower ranks.
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@FeelsVeryBadMan said:
Wraith is in a good spot right now.
Freddy is getting reworked.
Clown is the most annoying and most unfun to play against, he can stop loops sometimes even before you reach them. I guess this is just a case of git gud.
All of the Pig mains I know would disagree with that statement.
Legion. Overnerfed? Yes. Is it for the best? Yes. If you legitimately think FMT was okay, I might actually stop and never look at this thread because having a convo with a biased Killer main is not for me, because it leads to nowhere. Stun after Frenzy is logical, imagine that there was no stun, he would probably become a top tier killer and super OP. Old Legion was the most bullshit killer in the entire game.
Plague is good in the right hands, although she can be slowed down if survivors don't cleanse, that makes her an M1 killer.
Ghostface. PTB. Public. Test. Build. TEST. That's all I'm going to say.
Nurse is a Killer that requires a LOT of skill to learn and master, but when you do, you become an unstoppable killing machine that will get 4ks and 3ks 9.9/10 games. That is not okay. Just cause you learned how to play her, doesn't mean you should be unstoppable. But, I do agree that her base power shouldn't get nerf, mainly just her addons.
The devs "not listening to the players". Please explain that, because if you're referring to the Killer mains on this forum, I am so glad they didn't. This game would be in a even bigger mess than it is right now.
Dude what the hell ever.
Wraith is NOT rank 1 viable. Add on dependent!
Pig is not rank 1 viable. Very add on dependent.
Clown can stop loops yes, but he's not r1 viable and still add on dependent.
Legion did not deserve to be made near useless. You damn right I liked FMT, but even still an elite group of survivors would smash you.
Plague is a joke and you know it. Her power does nothing to threaten Survivors and she's also very add on dependent. Gen rush and loops destroy her too.
If you MASTER nurse you should destroy the game. She's 100% reliant on her power AND she has to think about what you will do before you do it. How is that not worth what she brings? There aren't many god nurse players left so why all the crying? Survivors just don't want to face dangerous killers... Period. I destroy the game with Billy, on PC with a pad, and STILL have hell with elite r1 players & SWF.
Just because you mastered looping and finding hex within the first 3 seconds doesn't mean you deserve to survive every game. Doesn't that sound stupid?
This game has about 15 killers. Only 5 are "viable."
1. Nurse, the best period.
2. Billy, the best behind nurse. Can be stopped by pallets.
3. Spirit, third best for me. Very add on dependent & sound dependent. Sound bugs break her viability.
4. Hag, the wild card. She can be placed anywhere based on who uses her. Compared to the top 3, hampered by mobility issues in a Chase.
5. Huntress, trash to me and boring but I know she can destroy the game.
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@Judith said:
I just like the way you said it not because of Legion lol.
But yeah I stopped playing Legion after the nerf. I wanted to try Pig but they also nerfed her. So I just play Mikey.
I'm a Billy/Nurse main and I actually prestige Legion before any other killer. I liked Legion that much. Since the nerf, haven't touched him.
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@Judith said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/512042#Comment_512042
That is admirable. Is it hard to learn how to play her with controller?
It's subjective because console players are arguably way worse than PC players. I'm speaking in terms of survivors. On console, they don't know how to deal with a nurse that can actually blink. In red ranks, they even try to loop you. Nurse, pallet looped. Yes I said that correctly.
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Let's go into how the clearly killed legion. All that needed to be done was to remove moonwalking... The end. If a killer commits to killing you, you will go down... Regardless. You can't loop forever. This is what happened.
Oh you want to use FMT & SWS to be a threat? Nah dawg, we nerfing y'all. FMT requires 4 or so hits + stuns to down. Git gud!
Oh you want to Chase and deactivate frenzy to M1? Oh no playa, we adding a stun, that's long as hell, alongside darkening the screen. How ya like dat?
Oh you wanna Deep Wound then back off and come back? We can't have dat dawg. DW doesn't decrease in terror radius and ya can't see DW progress. Fasho ya loving dat!
Oh you wanna stack cool down add on to still try to frenzy chase then m1? Nizzerf!
Oh and we also nerfed vaults to hell. Good luck chasing through the loop dawg, but we did do ua justice. We made frenzy SLOWER, but last longer. Be careful tho, if you miss an attack in frenzy, ya lose the entire bar.
"HOW YA LIKE MEH NAO!!!!! BYTCHES!!!!" -BHVR
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These have to literally be the worst developers of all time.
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@sorrowen said:
Plague and ghost face are both trash just plague is slightly less trashy. Ghost face needs a rework to be average his design like Legion is fundamentally flawed. No killer should have a survivor control their power.
Tell that to Trapper then. He completely sucks. I only got him leveled up for his perks and haven't touched his bum azz since.
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Is this true?!
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So was Tinkerer, Deerstalker, and so on. Adapt
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Great news, but now onto ghostface lol
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I rarely play Freddy, but when I do, I stomp. He is a beast but you must know how to play him. I'd rather have him reverted to Day 1 release Freddy vs this rework.
Day 1 Freddy was literally a GOD with infinite mind game potential.
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@[Deleted User] said:
They have acknowledged it, actually. I can't find the post, though.
Regardless, I believe @Peanits has been passing along all of the feedback.
Like he did with plague & legion? Lol
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They'll lock all those abilities behind add on and the only ability he will have baseline is the transport ability. I think that's BS because it still gives survivors yet another warning he's coming. All 3 of these abilities should be baseline imo. I just can't trust them. Look at how plague was "ok" and then nerfed. Look at legion. Look at remember me. Look at how pig was gutted end game for no real reason.
I'm just like damn man. Survivors ALWAYS need a chance? Just revert Freddy back to release state. Lower the dream transition to 5 secs or something. Remove the ability to interact during dream transition... The end.
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Very good bait 👌
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Literally nothing about him is good lol. He's solid trash all the way around.
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Why did you BUFF MOM?
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@Rie said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/506303#Comment_506303
You didn't answer the original question regarding the ds stun time... I'm confused
He strategically avoided the question lol
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Notice how they are moving all related threads about him being trash to the PTB section of the gameplay forums. They know damn well nobody really goes there to read anything.
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@xXNurseXx said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/66131/hot-take-nurse-is-beatable
why? easy, watch this and you will know
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/427908825?t=04h12m35s
and you will see its not the "only addons are op" bs posts, its the killer.
but like i said, we need a killer who can 4k easily, its healthy for the game so everything alright with nurse
He's a LEGACY NURSE which means he's a GOD NURSE. No matter what you do, you can't really beat God nurse dude. He's seen and faced it all. The only thing that can stop him is himself. I see nothing OP given the amounts of hours and time he's put into the game
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The movement speed NERFS killed her
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Yeah it's time to revert Ds stun time back.
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This is a buff for sure and it's not right. It should protect him going down and only on tank hits. It's too easy to just unhook!
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@Entità said:
@DemonDaddy You believe in randomness, even about two gates patrolled from the same position, so do you accept sometimes Ruin spawns in front of a survivor and sometimes it lasts long minutes or do you think a hex totem next to a survivor is a bad mechanic? My answer is the second: no hex totems destroyed in a few seconds, it's unfair.
Well, more than likely I'm using Billy/Nurse anyways so just how long can you loop me? Lol.
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What are the secret offerings for killers?
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@Peanits said:
By default, the obsession mechanic does not do anything, which is why no obsession will be chosen if nobody is using obsession perks or add-ons. The effects of being the obsession are purely based on the perks and add-ons that the survivor and the killer have equipped. Because of that, the effects of being the obsession can either be beneficial (the killer doesn't want to kill you, e.g. Save The Best For Last) or hindering (the killer does want to kill you, e.g. Dying Light, Rancor). Running an obsession perk increased your chance of becoming the obsession, which could get risky if the killer is using one of the latter.
Nobody even uses Dying Light since you guys killed it tho lol.
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I p3 Billy because he's my main and so far, I haven't seen ANY of the perks I used to use. No BBQ, Bamboozle, PGTW, Ruin, Enduring, or SPIRIT FURY! How is it I'm p350 and haven't seen not 1 of these perks.
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Gates are fine. Should've done gens