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@Mr_K said:
DBD has been around so long we have this gap between those that know and those that don't. In this case those that played DBD before EGC and after.
that’s so true bestie. It is funny to read about the tombstone myers out and about now though. That made me genuinely laugh out loud to read about.
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clearly wrong, pig is S tier.
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I’ve had to make peace that it will always be there.
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Just remove and not complete rework?
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@Nun_So_Vile said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3915295#Comment_3915295
That'd actually be a good idea to have it as an event modifier, where a bit of fun and wackiness is expected.
agreed. I don’t think we should go back on game progress from that time in today’s dbd. However, I don’t think an event modifier with all the busted things from that time for a limited run would be a huge issue to let people live nostalgia, or experience it how it once was.
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@Nun_So_Vile said:
I would love if they would add separate legacy servers specifically for older versions of DBD. Personally, I would be happy to play during almost any 2019 patches.
An event mode would be neat if they have that back up version.
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@THE_Crazy_Hyena said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3914563#Comment_3914563
Actually, 7 years old. It has been necroed twice
See ya’ll again in 3 for a reunion?
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@BlightedDolphin said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/443325/dream-perk
Isn't that pretty much just Dead Hard?
I’m not going to gaslight you. Yep.
acrobat survivor when, and if I’m extra dreaming I think they should be a twink….and French(I like the accent). It just feels right.
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@WolfyWood said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3915132#Comment_3915132
Aka there's yet another subset of perks for survivor that's literally useless and only serves as a bait for ignorant players to troll their team, alongside totem builds, chest builds, and aura builds.
Awesome design.
what would you do with it? Because buff it and going in that direction just incentivizes slugging.
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@Mr_K said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3915015#Comment_3915015
While I was not in this camp, the reasons for slugging was due to removing the viability of gen slowdown perks. I've never seen a killer state "I slug because there are too many hooks". There have though, instances where survivors run to an area where it would be impossible to make it to a hook.
yeah I would not like to go back to bully killers with another sabo meta, I think sabo is in a decent spot where if determined survivors can MAYBE get the wiggle off but it’s not guaranteed and is risky. This was a terrible idea back in the day and it would be a terrible idea now to buff sabo. All survivors did was use it over grief killers, and it will lead to more aggressive slugging. This would be horrible for the majority of survivors bc swf have and would if reinstated absolutely abuse it, and it’s really only something that swf can pull off the majority of the time. I’ve been on a team that would do that, and let me tell you there really was nothing the killer could do back then. So while fun for survivor it made killers absolutely miserable. That type of gameplay should just stay a relic of the past.
- friendly neighborhood survivor main.
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@Kleine_Klompje said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3914545#Comment_3914545
They hate survivors yet they're playing as the survivor. Alright then. I might as well drop playing survivor if everyone thinks this way.
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3914546#Comment_3914546
But if killers mostly player survivor then haven't they learned the counters of killers? I devote to playing survivor. I play 90% times of survivor and 10% killer if I feel like to play some trapper or hag (I love trap killers makes me think a lot).
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3914551#Comment_3914551
Okay so it's a lack of self-control on their part because they're addicted to dopamine. That makes a lot more sense.
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3914570#Comment_3914570
I'm happy with not having this list when I play survivor. I come to enjoy and learn, and not expect anything, but this is getting out of hand.
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3914595#Comment_3914595
What does this mean? How can a trial be decided before the match starts? You can't know the present or the future until it happens. If everybody knew that it would be decided, they would have quit at lobby screen.
If bhvr decides to change the lobby and let everyone see the perks, items and addons, would you choose to quit or stay if they aren't using builds that are considered meta by many?
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3914599#Comment_3914599
I'm facing a dilemma here. Yes, it's saving a lot more time but it also give the survivors a quit option which they want to prevent but they encourage it at the same time. This integrity is slowly eroding over time.
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3914615#Comment_3914615
See, this is what I mean. This is what I get in almost all of my survivor games. It's people who give up at the slightest mistake. If our ancestors gave up centuries ago then we wouldn't be here in the first place. "Oh no a panther is attacking my family. I'll just curl up somewhere in a corner and cry" No, cry baby, it's time to grab a bow and arrow or spear and attack that #########.
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3914645#Comment_3914645
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3914633#Comment_3914633
These downvotes are nasty work. They already jumped to conclusions. This forum sucks.
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3914649#Comment_3914649
I think it would do better if a lot of them take a chill pill because they take the game waaayyyyy too seriously.
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3914667#Comment_3914667
Now that's a winner mindset. Don't let the downvotes get to you it's just people that are jealous by your resilience. Also with a name like that, respect, King.
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3914674#Comment_3914674
I don't think it has much to do about anti-loop but more about: "What abilities can we put in before we run out of ideas in a limited gameplay loop such as Dead by Daylight?" There aren't many options anymore before people start to point out that A killer has part ability from B killer. We got so many killers and we're already at a point where people are calling it out.
That's a problem in general. People lack self-control. I think BHVR is trying to solve a problem that can't be solved.
it’s not my list either since I don’t give up or “go next” unless it’s to give someone a chance at hatch. I’m not going to pretend like I don’t know why though, survivors are pretty vocal about these things. I just listen.
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@Ryuhi said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3914757#Comment_3914757
It does, as does my counterpoint that other accessibility changes have been made despite the advantage argument. The precedent is there.
they can give killers the heart too I guess to let them know a survivor is running nearby but like in killer form since it’s first person, like their weapon vibrates or something. If someone can’t hear at all there’s no amount of sound boosting that’s going to fix that. Might as well give a visual cue for worst case scenario.
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@Ryuhi said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3914746#Comment_3914746
You're projecting a lot onto me, and I don't know what that waiver comment is about. There have been accessibility options added to the game for various similar issues, and I brought it up because of your sarcastic comment. Also they literally changed spine chill to replace it usage with a free accessibility option. Locking accessibility behind perks is a bad idea for anyone.
I’m sorry if my joke was insensitive and hurt your feelings, I apologize. My point about in game advantage for those that don’t have hearing issues still stands.
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@Nazzzak said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3914538#Comment_3914538
They're chasing that dopamine hit. It's why video games are so addictive in the first place. It lights up the reward centre of our brain when we win. When you've played survivor long enough you generally get a feel for how a game is going to go, and I suspect a big part of people letting go is because they've had game after game after game of disappointment and they know no satisfaction is coming from the current game. Whether it's because of the way the killer is playing (tunnelling, slugging etc) or because they're hanging on hook and can see no one is on a gen, instead they're got 3 team mates crouching in different corners of the map in the opposite direction of where the killer has just run.
wanna hear something absolutely wild? Every time I play with someone that’s a killer main they’re a better survivor than all the survivor mains I know, and “bully” killers harder than the survivor mains I know do. No joke the best survivors I’ve ever played with are killer mains.
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@Ryuhi said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3914736#Comment_3914736
I didn't say it wasn't intentional, in fact I implied it very much is. That doesn't change the fact that it is an accessibility issue. Also kinda directed at the "googling settings" comment.
Are you saying they should set up a department to turn in medical information for a boost to hearing like a waiver? Or that they should create a perk that enhances sound for people with hearing issues that’s available for everyone? I’m just saying you can ask for that. You’re getting upset with me like I’m in charge of their accessibility department. Spies from the shadows is a pretty good perk for killer if someone has hearing issues that’s available. There’s a lot of perks that give visual effects, the aura ones that though not sound, show you where survivors are.
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@Ryuhi said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3914611#Comment_3914611
Volume balancing is an actual issue in the game, though. Especially hook screams and chase music.
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3914562#Comment_3914562
If there was in game audio balancing in any capacity this joke would hit better, but this game is horrible for people with conditions like APD. It would be much better if there was either better audio balancing (read: not purposely bad to disorient players) or actual options for things like lowering hook screams so loud they're basically trying to get neighbors to call the police, loud chase music, voices (which still need to be normalized anyway) footsteps, heavy breathing/snarling and so on. The audio balancing for the game is a mess, and that takes a lot more than just adjusting volume due to how important sounds are often much more quiet than superfluous ones.
imagine the in game advantages you could get from toying with sound on that level. Do you think that’s not intentional? I’ve always felt like that was a very intentional choice.
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@Neaxolotl said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3914637#Comment_3914637
Do you actually believe today is the time where DC and giving up is most common?
no, but it’s the survivor version of when killers used to do it when they felt helpless to circumstances the game balance had created. Killers used to dc in mass too until changes started being made.
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When playing survivor: nothing but in game sounds.
When playing killer:
In This Moment, Nicki Minaj, Taylor Swift, Chappell Roan, Gracie Abrams, Marina and the Diamonds, and Hot Mulligan
That’s right I’m slapping people around listening to Pink Pony Club -
@Kleine_Klompje said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3914581#Comment_3914581
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̷̧̧̡̢͉̦̣̠̠͉̥͕̜̤̰̠͇̥̖̩̺͈̻̗̞̩̪͖̭̪̤̘̥̻̙̭͎̣̯͚̺̭͍͎͕̼͑͗͂̇̒̀͒̑̊͗̈́̊́̅́͂̂̊́͐̊̌̅̋̂̐͌̎̋͛́̕̚ͅņ̷̧̨̢̯̻̖̼̬͚̳͓͍͈̫͔͕͉̖̙̜̲͉͙͕̱͈̼̪̘̯̝̱̻̗̘̣͖̦̘͈͌̿͊̈͒̉̄͌͌̀̎͐̽͛͛̽̓̀̓͊̔̀̃̎̏̓͂̈́̈́͆̃̕̚͜͜͜͝ͅͅơ̸̧̧̥̲̪͚̘̻̰͈̼̟͇̳̬̮̳̹̫̮͔͒͊͊̽͊̍̅̓͗̍̓̂́̓̈́̅̌̋̇̚͝͝͠w̸̫͖̝̬̩͍̏͆͂.̵̨̛̛̬͙̞̘̳̖͓͙͈̠͖̭̭̤̥̰̱̪̠̫͍͓̪̥͕̼̩̹̻̖̭̤̜̥͌̓͒̋̋́͌̈͐̊̄͗̅̊͂̇̇͆̈́͆͐̌̏̋͌̂̈́͗̈́͋́͋̕̚͜͝͝͝͝͠ͅͅͅ ̴̨̨̨̛̛̲̯̝̣̤̼̭̜̻̙̠̠͍̘̼̞͓̣̹̦̼͉̤̲̠̟̻̙̭̗̯̒̐̓̓̈́̒̉̽̈́̆̍̈̈́̓̌̇̎̊̒̍͐͘͜͠͠͝ͅͅȚ̶̛̛͗̔̊̆̃̈̆̈́̃̏́̑̽̎̔̿͒̐̃̑̈́̔́̀̊̀͆͒̀̎̒͊͑̐̑̿́̓͘̚͝͝͝͠h̸̨̨̗̹̺̲͆̏̿̀́̂̔̋͛̅̒̈́̒̇̄͒͊̉͗̍̏̽͐̑̿͑̀̓̐̈́͆͒͗̃͒͐̉͆͛́̉̊̈͘̕̕͝͝͠͠ę̸͓̱̻̦̖̰͉̯͍̈́͛̀͑͆͛̈́̂̇̋̈́͐̑͆̚͠y̶̛̤͇͔̱͇̦͇̤̟̮͉͕̬̱͇̻̤̮̩̖͇͈͚̘̣͍͕̜̙͖͐̊͆̃̈́̈́̓̈́̔̽͌͆̾̓͆̊̋͊͗̔̑̈́͋̈́̀̈̂̕͜͜ ̴̢̧̢̛̬̙̙̫̣͍̭̺̗͉̦̜̼̪̪̝͍͉̭͎͎̙̳̻̘͉̳̰͖͔̟̮͌̆́̀̀͊̈̄̀͊̀̇͑͂̇̈́͆͗̾̈̔͒͒̑̀͛́̎͗̍͑͐́̾͘͘̚͘͘͘̕͠͝͠͝͝ͅṥ̷̩̖̜̰̟̜̩͙̜̻͎̔̊̀̇a̷̧̨̢̧̹̖̖̻̤͈̘̞̩̭͑ͅì̵̢̨̨̝̯̤̯̥̪̰͚̖̤̻͓͖̽̽̓̒ḓ̴̨̧̢̨̢̧̧̣̞͔͕̞̟̜̠̤̘̯̙̬̮̤̺̱̰͍͓̗͉̺̦̲͙͖̩̘͉͖̮̳̘̜̞͎̋̆̈́̋̓̀̆̈́̍̀̀̓͋̔̉͊̏̈́̀͆̉̾͊̓̈̊̿̈́̐̊̉̓͑̿́͊͂͌̈́͂̆̕̚̚͜͠͝͝ 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̴̡̢̛͕̭̺̫̖̹̩̭̱͚̓̉͛̉̓͗̈̈́́͌̈̉͑̈́̀́͗̽͗̈̄̉́͋̋̓̾̇́̓͊̎̈́̒͐͘̚͘͝v̸̧̨̧̢̡̧̳̻͓̮̭̮̥͚͓͙̺͙̗̭͇͓̬̹̰̲̣̻͔̱͎̝̘͇̬̻̪̪̦̤̺̂̏̈́̏̔͒̍̇̀̾̇̀͌͌̌̅͊̋̑͌̑̓͒̀̓́͘̚̚͝o̸̢̞̩̙̯̩̟͎͇͇͇͙̬͎͂̊͋͐͆̂̀̈́̀̍̓͑ĺ̴̨̡̡̧̨͕͎͙͕͚̠̘̤̯̻̘̠̜͔̗̖̮̥̻͉̹̝͉̥̟̜̯̫̦̣͙̪̒̓̆͛̀̃͑̓́̀̔̀͋̔̍͋͋̄̾̀͌̀͋̈͒́̏̓̎̓̇͗̒̀̉̓̋̓̿̽̐̋͘̕̕͘͜͝͝ͅu̷͔̩̪̰̭̟̩̭̓́̾͊͋̑̊̈̍̑̃͑̑̈͒̄̓̆̀̈͂͒͗̊̉͂́̒͋͋̏̾͘̕͘̚͝͝͝m̴̡̧̨̢̛̲̭̭̬̺͈̤͎͈̭̞̲̭̬̥̼͉͚̬̙̩͇̮̝̣̳̮̞̖̺͙̤͙͎̙̙̱͍̳͖͚̟̜͕͗͆̒̍̍͒͗̄̆̈́̒́̽̒̈́́̀̅͛̂̾͂̿͌͆̾̃̿̂̓̊̅̒̉̕͜͠͝ͅë̶̢̨̡̛̼͈̰͍͙̙̮͓̪̲̱̤͇͙̮̭͕̥̗̖̪͕̜̹̭̤͍̫̤̱̟͙̠̲̞̪́̉̾̒̑̾̈́̅̾̓͂̔̒͐̊̐̈́̔̋̊̆̉̒͌̆̃͆͐́̈́̀̋̚̚̕̚͜͜͝ͅͅͅͅ ̷̢̧̡̨̳͎̘̥̪͖̹̝̜̤̪̱͚̺͖͓̰͖̺̹̟͔͖̙̮̜̪͔̲̼̻̮̳̐͌̒̿̑̈́̇́̅̑̄̊̈͒̿̌̽̒̅͂͋̂̌̓̓̇̍̊̎̎́̇̃́̚̕͘̕̚̚͜͝͠͝ͅș̶̡̧̢͓͕̟͇̟̦͍̼̮̻̪̠͎͛̊͐e̵̖̣͔͎̖͕̣͙̦̗̋͊̇̌̓̋̾͆͗͆͛̇̆̈́̏̀̏̋̉͑̽̇͛̕ͅt̴̢̡͚̟̬̯̣͕̖̰̣̗͕̦̮̝͇̼̰͓̳͈̟̰̜̥̘̩̪̐̔̏̀̊́̿͗̇̋͆̈́̌͒̂͋̀̔̿̂̀̕̚̕͜͝t̶̡̥͈͔̳͎͙̯̣̪̖̖͓̞̖̯͎͈̻̄͐̅̿̓̋̆̔̇͛͘͠ḯ̷̛̘͕̟͉̯̰̫̝̅͒͑͊̾̒̄̏̒̌́͗̉͌͂̃͠ǹ̴̨̨̡̺͚̟̮̤̬͈͈̖̩̥̞̯̭͗̓̒͋̒̄͐͌͋̇͗͋͂̊̈́̇́͆̆̄̉̃̽̑̈́̑͒̎̎͐͊̍̈́̚͜͜͝͝͠͝͠ğ̸̣̺̰͚̰̼̠̦̱̪̮͔̎̒̂̆́̌́̀s̸̡̨̢̡̳̭̰̘͓͙̦̪̜̰̦̰͎̪͓̱͍͓̖͙͕̫̩̳̭̟̘̰̩̐̔̋͊͆͗̀̀̉̋̍̓̋̕͜͜͝.̸̢̢̡̡̦͔̻͔̥͔̹͍̘̦͙̜̞̠̘̩̯̱̘͉̺͈̹̤͓͓̠̫͚̖̲͔̖̤͕͇͖̰̜͎̳̙̺̔́̂̍̆̃͂̑͑̽̓͐̃͋̆̚͘͜ͅͅ ̵̢̧̡̨̛̼͚͖̮̟̣̱̞̯͈̼͈̗̥̗̮͇͙̠̲͕̞̹̜͚̟̳̬̜͔̠̙͉͍̗͍̬̿̔̐́͂̓͋̃̈́̉̾̓̀͒͛̊̊̒̽̈́̓̽̑͜͜͝͝͝͝͝I̷̧̢̡̢̡̨̬̹̝̗̮̝̣̖͎͖̹̳͎̼̻̳̦̰̲̥̘͖̝̫̬͉̫̰̬̳̹̓̇͛̒̄́̍͌̇̎̓̿̇̆̏̀̈̄̆͑̓͋̄̎̎̉̃̊́̇͑́̊̉̆̽̀́̋̕͝͝ͅͅ ̷̜͕̠͉̞͉̉̏̈́̓͐͋͗͆̍͑̇̊̈́̏̆͛̑̀͒̆̍̈͊͝͝ͅh̵̨̢̛̥̺̭͇̼̖̄͒́̇̇̋͗̋̉̒̃͑͒̃͑͑͛̽̐̚̕͝͝a̴̢̼̖̺̮̻̘̯̟̰̠̩̦͈͈̣͖̱̻̠̯̭̙̭̒̋͊̄̍͒̔̿̾̈̉̉̀̔͗̌̏̽̆̈͆̆̑̚͜ͅt̸̢̨̨̡̢̨̡̢͖̖͎̤̬͓̱̟̱̩̙̳͎̦̱̦̭̩̖͓̗̙̯̭̯̍̎̈́̿̊̈́̿́͗̾̿̽̽͗̅͑̌̀̂͑̾́̌̒̈́̃͊̀̓͆́̐͑̕͠͝͝͝ȩ̵̛̗͎͓̤͕̞͍̦̙̣̯͇̮̯̳̰̝̔̈͝ͅ ̸̧̢̺̣̬̞̱̗̗̣̗̪͈̬͍̹̰̙͉̼̝͓̮̝̲͔̻̞̣̪͇̼̲̻͚̮̓̾̃̇̾͐́̈̅̿̂̌́̒̏̔̎̿̿̅̉̓̈́̔͑̔̿̈̚̕̚͜͝͠͝ẅ̸̗̼͖̭̂̑̉̈̿̂̅́͋̀͛͐͑̾̎h̴̘̙̲͍̭̬̪̞̲̓͂͛͆͗͆͘ẹ̸̢̢̛̖̺̣͚̦̖̜̞̤̺̮̝̦͎̻͉̬̲̈́̔̑̈̅̀͗̉̇́̐̀̋̊͂̀̈́͌̃̅̈́͒͒́͂͆̓̍̒̆̉̚̕̕͠͝n̶̨̡̨̡̛̛̛̛̛͎͎̖͖͔̠̝̠̰͓͖̥̙̰̻̩̻̪̪̭̪͈̳̜͍̠̳̺̤̼̤͙̣̝̳̉͌̽̀͆͐͌͋̏̈́̔̎͊̈́́̄̌̉̐̃̓̈́͌̂̀̾̅́̊̀̃̇̕͘͘̚̕͜͠͝͝ͅͅ ̶̛̪̰̘̗͈͚̱̘̆͊̚p̶͖̙͇̦̺̐̒͛̓̒͌͋̂̓̋̒̆͑̔͛̌̓̚͘ͅp̷̡̧̼̫̹͚͓̻̹͈͚̳̫̲̜̝̪͈͉̪̮̗̝̳͎͔͉͎͉̟̟̀̂͆̉̂͊̈̈́̋̄͘͝ͅl̴̛̠̞̩͓̳̟̹͖̠̱̬̼̹̦̣͉̺̻̣̤͙͉̫̪̋͂̈͗̈́̎̈́̍̽̃͗̃̀̔̿̓͋̚͘̕͝ ̵̢̙̮̜͙̜̼̲̩͓̮̘̟̯̻͕͉̻̭̖̞͖̜̩̠̄́̀͐͑̍́͑͂v̷̦̠̯̜̋̾̔̓͊͗́̆̒͆̌̔̚͝͝p̶̞̺̞̣̭̖͈͝͝n̴̡̡̛̲̮̻̩̳̩̺͖̘̪͖̰͖̞̭͕̹̞̺͓̣̭̺̰̫͓̱̘͈̰̮̻̹͖̩̜͓̩̞̮̭̼̮̱̹̉̉͂͆͗̽͑̀̃̓̽̈́̅̋͌̾͋̐̊̽͘͘ͅ 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exactly :)
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I restarted my router. Hahaha okay it’s working now. They said they’re going to sue because they have a skill issue on finding volume settings. I hate when ppl vpn from space I could barely discern what they wrote too.
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Sorry my bad I hit mute on my text. Can you hear me now?
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clears throat~ things I’ve heard survivors say on why:
Killer is op
Map is too small
Bad teammates(big mistakes, or just not doing anything)
Too many anti-loop killers
Horrible gen spawn
Horrible pallet spawns
Tired of seeing ghoul
killer already tunneled someone out, no chanceKiller slugging just to slug(not tactful slugging that creates pressure)
They realize they’re absolutely boned due to xyz circumstance why finish a match that you know is going to end horribly anyways.
Pig and trapper op please nerf
Did I miss anything? Feel free to the list if I did. This is just what I’ve heard.
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@Kleine_Klompje said:
Whaaaat?
They said they can’t find the volume settings on their headset or system and demand BHVR fix their game instead of googling settings. Wow,this game it really is too loud can’t even hear text 🤦♀️
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@Aven_Fallen said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3914343#Comment_3914343
Clearly not drastically. You can easily reach the 60% Killrate without any excessive tunneling, camping or slugging. Not saying that you will never need to slug or tunnel to win, you certainly will have to do it from time to time. But currently people are just doing it way too much and especially when it is not needed.
No Killer needs to tunnel or slug at 5 Gens. Yet many do. And this is because there will be changes. Do you really think it can go on like this with FNAF most likely bringing a surge of new players? How long do you think those will play if they go against xXForumKiller69Xx who thinks they need to slug everyone to win?
hopefully some good comes out of it and they can buff killers that struggle outside of doing that. Rn it’s too easy to completely turn the game around -most- of the time by deploying such strategies, so that drives the kill rate, then people trying to play in a way that doesn’t make others miserable and is fun don’t get the buffs they need because KR is being met from strategies. The ones that live by it’s the only way to win are going to swear you’re pouring holy water on the killer role. I think overall it will be good and get killers the buffs they need around gen times and chases while not making survivor role absolutely miserable. That’s what I hope for anyways. A game where killers and survivors can feel like they can play the game and not feel forced to slug, tunnel, camp, and rush gens to have a chance. Both sides at the top don’t like what’s going on, and it’s pretty clear that survivors are miserable being fodder before “getting good”. It just might work. I’m willing to try to break cycles.
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@highpingmeta said:
what the hell is going on over there? releasing ghoul in this dumpsterfire state knowing youre going to nerf him. changing hex pentimento to have 0.01% pickrate. they might as well delete the perk. then you come here making the most busted SWF perk of all time named duty of care.
you dont play your own game do you then why even try balancing it your way? stupid devs
i also hate the fact that the devs keep bringing the same excuse "It need to be easier for new player" Why do they never apply the same logic to killer?
would you prefer survivors to bring a gen rush build over altruism? I suppose I can go use those, I have a ton of BNP and toolboxes I don’t use. If you insist.
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@GentlemanFridge said:
One that allows me to give the crows head scritches
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IblahaCcQjw&ab_channel=FuffFuffFuff
you know what me too! They should AT LEAST ADD THE PET CROW option into the stuff with calm spirit. It’s only the right thing to do ☺️
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so now that ps5 can support 120 fps we getting an update or? Just asking.
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@smurf said:
I always bring an item, but I did go itemless a lot in the Christmas event. Instead, I brought Pharmacy, Plunderer's, and a cobbler. Then I went around opening chests and giving everyone green medkits, including the killer :D
I knew Santa clause was real!
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@AmpersandUnderscore said:
Literally every response panning "playing with friends" falls completely apart when you consider that 2v8 is a thing.
How many of these wildly biased opinions apply when two killers are on comms? I'm betting there's some excuse when it also applies to killers.
Or you could just accept that people playing video games with their friends isn't evil. That avoids the whole "bias" part altogether.
it’s not evil, and people should be able to play with their friends, but the advantages of doing so on comms is undeniable. It’s okay to call a horse a horse.
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@Nomade said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3913429#Comment_3913429
Thats anecdotal at best, and you know that. There are killers at all kinds of different skill levels at all different MMRs. Your expierience and mine could be similar or they could be totally different. Killer power levels are all over the place too. When you say you have an easy time as killer are you playing blight or nurse, or are you playing trapper or pig?
Good killer players win a lot and will eventually start playing against survivors who win a lot too, and the difference in power between a bad survivor bringing really powerful perks and a good survivor bringing powerful perks is night and day.
The fundimental issue at hand is the design direction BHVR is choosing to go with survivor perk design. Bad and new survivor players are so bad that they are basically uncarryable and BHVR is trying to design increasingly more and more powerful perks for survivor to help carry them to wins they dont deserve. This is really problematic because once you put those perks in the hands of good survivors who know how to abuse them, they become incredibly oppressively to play against. This is obviously unhealthy and I have no idea how in the world people fail to see it.Recently I’ve been playing: Billy, wraith, trapper, pig, and nurse(I absolutely sucked at basekit no add on nurse).Do you want me to not tell the truth that I’m running absolute circles around survivors while picking up killer? Would you like for me to silence my experience as a survivor swapping over to killer? I’m not claiming to be some rank 1 high mmr killer.
I’m aware of how high most killers can go due to their kits at their best compared to survivors at their best, unless you’re extraordinarily good with them and have mastered macro. I’m also aware when you’re punching down, do I deserve those kills? I don’t feel like it. Fish in a barrel, even when they have decent players. It’s a wrap. Killers are getting participation 2k minimum trophies right now while being mediocre at playing them.
I pointed out in my post that I can see this being abusable at survivor best due to the paragraph above^ this perk basically functions like old MoM(mettle of man) but in a different “font”. Idk what you want from me, I’m just some scrub on the forum trying to figure out how to not make the perk abusable, I don’t see a lot of other suggestions. Feel free to offer one.
If you think that I’m about to not go to bat for mediocre and new survivors though you’re wrong when I see some of the worst skilled killers I’ve seen in my 8yrs getting 2ks. Yeah the new and mediocre survivors aren’t that good, but there’s a lot of killers getting pushed up that aren’t either.
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sounds like an awesome change to me, and I agree.
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@Unequalmitten86 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3913313#Comment_3913313
I just discovered you can kick cans and I had a survivor fill them up for me.
it’s either 2k or 2.5k bp for each can you kick. It’s nice.
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@Chiky said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3912973#Comment_3912973
wait what???? i cant stop playing the event and play normals and still get bonus BP??? why didnt I know that??????
Playing solo q in the event has been extra miserable. I dont get why killers need to be so sweaty instead of farm...
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/61J12E0QN28Z/1000126657.jpg
I literally get something like this on every match by just toying around with the survivors and letting them all live...
Ah, but when I play survivor if I get 40K I get too many, and that means I had tk suffer after being tunneled and slugged at 5 gens. Not to mention that repairing the new gens give 0 BP as well, so it's even worse.
yeah same my bp looks great not even killing-even though I could- and I don’t feel gen rushed at all, if anything I’m giving monumental “breathers” to them. Nailed it with community farm event that means working together for a common goal. The bp push on killer side is kicking the blood gens not killing/hooking the survivors.
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@Akumakaji said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3913414#Comment_3913414
Well, I obviously hit nerf there, as you got instantly pretty defensiv. But just in case that I overstepped, the one assumption that I made was that you included yourself in the group of survivors that hate chase cutting perks, and that you weren't talking about that group from the outside.
The other thing is that I explained how the constant attack on perks outside of the meta is counterproductive to perk variety - I might have missed your point, but you literally started your statement with "counterpoint", inticating that it stood counter to the points I made in my initial post. I find that much more reasonable to assume, than that what you do: that I somehow demand or want survivors to just stay in place, let themselves getting killed unopposed and then looking around like a surprised pikachu when no one wants to play survivor.
Indeed, meta should not control us, and my general use builds are pretty much off-meta most of the time and I like using a couple of perks off the beaten path. For 2 years, Spies in Shadows is in nearly every killer build of mine, its definitely my most favorite perk, but just now people seem to be waking up to how good it is as i saw more and more posts mentioning it, in the past most people shot this perk down as weak and borderline useless.
BUT if we want to break open the crusty old mold of the perk meta, we need to make other perks, old and new, viable and attractive to at least some part of the players base. The meta will always be the most played perks, thats the defining feature of the "most effective tactic available", as a surprising number of players outright HATE the concept of equipping a perk that might not help them or give them value in each and every game. As a survivor I love to play Quick and Quiet + Headon, probably the weakest exhaustion perk in the game and it doesn't give me value every game, but when it does its so much fun.
But were I am totally on your side is the schizophrenic identity crisis of DBD: on one hand its constantly flaunted around as this fun game were you are chased by legendary slasher killers or can even play as one yourself and thats a fun, little party game, but on the other hand its constantly evaluated and balanced like a straight esports titel with a hardcore competitive scene.
While DBD HAS a competitive scene, in order to make that one work they have to maintain expansive lists of outlawed perks and add-ons, and ostensibly the list of the banned survivor perks is much longer then the killer one, albeit the banned killer list isn't short by any means.
DBD is as balanced as it has ever been, but right now we are at the cusp of optimizing the fun out of the game, by not allowing the other side to have anything good, fun or effective. While I am what you might consider a killer main, i play a pretty fair share of survivor and pride myself by having completed every achievment and tome challenge in the game - probably impossible if I never touched survivors at all. So I KNOW the pain of getting tunneled out of nowhere at 4 gens, that sucks! But I also know the feeling of the killer when 3 gens pop first chase and they instantly feel the pressure raising, with one survivor with one hook and 3 survivor with no hooks at all greedy to pounce on two of the remaining gens.
I hear you; we’re in agreement. reworking gen perks addons/items on both sides and introducing a mechanic that operates where it takes longer at the beginning(built in regression) , stabilizes at the middle, and then (progresses) more towards the end based off kill count could be a way to go about it, balance the killer side around hooks and not kills for bp boosts where the longer people are alive throughout the match the higher bp gain and scoring to offset set “work arounds” not my ideas but I read them somewhere, and I do think they are worth a shot.
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@Nomade said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3913277#Comment_3913277
So, basically what you are saying is all 3 are strong. Just that only one of them is so strong that even the people in solo queue can use it as a crutch. I guess that makes it okay though! It's not like SWFs exist at all, and wont abuse all 3 of these perks.
Please, PLEASE do not try to downplay it, downplaying how powerful and abusable these perks are outside of solo queue is allmost as bad and just as useless as outright lying.Every single time I pick up killer I feel like I can completely shoot fish in a barrel if I want to, and I’m not running anything meta or good addons or even addons at all. The skill expectation gap is insane between the two sides at the starting level.
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@Akumakaji said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3913290#Comment_3913290
well, one of the new perks introduced with the next survivor is a perk that will literally make rescues and escape during the EGC from nearly any part of the map possible and in most cases even easy. Thats a pretty seizable buff. What I really don't get is how many survivor on one hand lament the stale meta and that nothing moves, but on the other hand aren't willing to let other perks, even extremely niche and situational ones, raise up and shine and allowing them to break the old mold.
You are basically saying that enduring two supercharged chases per match isn't preferable to facing another cookie cutter Pop/PainRes/Lethal/BBQ killer. Of the 130 Killer perks, over half of them have a pickrate of below 2%, with 9 of the top 10 perks having a 10%+ pick rate. I guess "shaking up the meta" is only ever alowed from the top to the bottom, ie nerfing things to the ground, so that the next best medioce one can take the place of its follen brothers, not out of strength, but out of sheer desperation.
I’m pro versatility and buff EVERYTHING to be good and leave people to their own devices really and let people play how they want with standalone good perks or support perks that buff a style.IT DOES NOT MATTER WHICH SIDE. This is basically a sandbox game that’s costumed like a competitive asymm. If it were actually competitive there would be leaderboards that are broadcasted, but there’s not. You can play this game with whatever and whoever you want basically. “Meta” doesn’t control me. You make a lot of assumptions. I don’t think saying introducing a cool haste perk and keep in mind killers that won’t be able to keep up with it is some crazy out of pocket take. If you want survivors to just stand still and not be able to take chase or do gens just say that, I think you’ll be hard pressed to find a player base for survivor that ENJOYS that though is all I’m saying.
also if you’re issue with duty of care is endgame just say that and maybe they’ll put a stipulation of “disables at endgame” on it. Like that’s not some insane ask. Truth be told though watching the ptb killers weren’t that far behind to where survivors could get the gate open while actively pursuing them, and tbh if those gates were already open they probably could get out anyway, and if they didn’t, team mistake straight up.Neither side likes gens-mostly- and both sides like chase-mostly-, if you’re trying to eliminate both options on the survivor side simultaneously across the board as a standard , I just have puzzling questions at game direction from the top down if that’s the goal . While I’m at it I do think they should introduce diversity at the top on the killer side so it’s not just dash killers and traversal killers ruling the roost at the top that do force a diverse meta and contemplation on what to bring. You assume a lot. I’m not saying any joe or jane should be able to pick up killer though and soar all the way up being brainless, and nobody else’s fun matters in that pursuit because you have diversity and are having a good time, sounds like a really good way to ignore newcomer and average experience on survivor side while pacifying average killers at their expense.
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@Nazzzak said:
Yup go normal mode. I make much more bp in normal mode than event mode as survivor
I’m basically 2 hooking everyone and letting them go to help with their scoring since gen scoring is by survivor definition and logic “wonky”. Some survivors are dropping cans for me to kick which is really nice.
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yeah this looks about right compared to when I would play to win on a 4man vs having none of that “hive mind” and needing experience to try and bridge that when I play solo
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@Saiph said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3913157#Comment_3913157
Nah you went way too conservative with this.
Because SWFs also have perfect gen efficiency and in fact they can hardly ever be downed when they start taking hits for each other. They get the rescue at the right time to counter everything the killer can do, tunneling, camping, 3-genning, chasing, shnoozling and flabbergasting. We have to consider all the arguments.
Adjusted free SWF perk list:
- Adrenaline, Aftercare, Alert, Any Means Necessary, Appraisal, Autodidact, Ace in the Hole, Background Player, Balanced Landing, Better Than New, Blood Pact, Bond, Boil Over, Boon: Circle of Healing, Boon: Dark Theory, Boon: Exponential, Boon: Illumination, Boon: Shadow Step, Borrowed Time, Botany Knowledge, Breakdown, Breakout, Buckle Up, Built to Last, Calm Spirit, Chemical Trap, Clairvoyance, Corrective Action, Counterforce, Cut Loose, Dance With Me, Dark Sense, Dead Hard, Deception, Decisive Strike, Dedication, Deliverance, Desperate Measures, Detectives Hunch, Distortion, Diversion, Empathy, Fast Track, Fixated, Flashbang, Flip-Flop, Fogwise, For the People, Guardian, Head On, Hope, Hyperfocus, Inner Focus, Inner Healing, Iron Will, Kindred, Leader, Left Behind, Light-Footed, Lithe, Lucky Break, Made for This, Mettle of Man, No Mither, No One Left Behind, Object of Obsession, Off the Record, Open-Handed, Overcome, Overzealous, Parental Guidance, Pharmacy, Plot Twist, Poised, Power Struggle, Premonition, Prove Thyself, Quick & Quiet, Quick Gambit, Reactive Healing, Red Herring, Renewal, Repressed Alliance, Resilience, Resurgence, Rookie Spirit, Saboteur, Scene Partner, Self-Aware, Self-Care, Self-Preservation, Situational Awareness, Slippery Meat, Smash Hit, Sole Survivor, Solidarity, Soul Guard, Spine Chill, Sprint Burst, Stake Out, Streetwise, Styptic Agent, Teamwork: Power of Two, Technician, Tenacity, This Is Not Happening, Troubleshooter, Unbreakable, Up the Ante, Urban Evasion, Vigil, Visionary, Wake Up!, We'll Make It, We're Gonna Live Forever, Windows of Opportunity, Wiretap
yeah this looks about right compared to when I would play to win on a 4man vs having none of that “hive mind” and needing experience to try and bridge that when I play solo.
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@Akumakaji said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3912939#Comment_3912939
This is one of my biggest gripes with the game. Like I vividly remembered when Machine Learning was reworked and it was for a short time really strong - well, not really strong, but you now only had to kick a gen once and if THAT compromised gen got finished, you could zoom over the map with +10% speed for a whole minute. It was stupidly fun, especially if combined with Batteries Included and Rapid Brutality.
During the zoomer moment of course the game was unbalanced and I could brute force literally any loop in the game, besides god pallets, obviously, but even though I played that combo exclusively for a couple of days, it never activated three times in one game, it happend a maximum of 2 two times and I had literally no control over it happening at all, as especially at the last 2 gens the survivors would often focus down the wrong gen.
So I had a combo that was stupidly strong and fun when it worked, but it was literally my whole build and would only activate one time, possibly two times, in one match, with the moving parts like Batteries Included still out of my hands and potentially dead perks.
But still, even though it was already niche at that point, Machine Learning was nerfed again and had its uptime reduced to 45s. It might not sound like much, but with all perks already accounted for, there was little to find survivors and that missing 15s very much meant that the whole combo was only good for one chase and then some.
All this talk was just to highlight, the fact, that niche builds always had a tough time in DBD and the meta was solidified and fossilized in stone for a reason: because it worked nearly all the time and gave value nearly every chase.
BUT this change is also an opportunity, as BHVR could now go all out with some of this niche perks and make them extremely impactful, for when they activate, without needing a whole bunch of other perks to stack. If Machine Learning, for example, gave +15% on its own, that would still allow this playstyle, but also free up the three other perk slots for anything I desired. This is HUUUGE. The problem is just to sell this to the other survivors, ie that a +15% Machine learning that activated a max of two times per match was still better, then the same old PainRes/Pop/NowhereToHide combo that every killer was otherwise running.
If BHVR plays this right, we could outsource the necessary perk stacking of a build and allow niche perks to be viable with one single perk, thus enabling a place in a players loadout much more often
counter point
Survivors in mass hate how many anti-loop killers have been introduced. chases don’t last long(survivors love chase, not being down in 20 seconds flat) these maps have gotten so small and the amount of loops that buy any real time have been drastically down sized. So pitching a perk that even further pushes chase more in killer advantage would be a hard sell UNLESS they’re also pushing perks that extend survivor chases to counter that. Because if only one side is getting those kind of chase perks that makes chases more fun, and the other side isn’t well you’re killing the most fun part of the game for most people. Idk not nerfing duty of care would be a start, and buffing machine learning. People don’t like being a piñata one side or the other, they like competition.
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hard truth? A game that sucks pretty much for everyone else that’s not an A or higher tier killer or a 4swf on comms that’s played this game so long they understand most things and how to play around them. You don’t even have to play this game super long and just be a 4man and do better than most teams not on comms. The game is even worse on the sloped side because the expectation of learning and being on the same level with “hive cooperation” and expecting it to feel “fair” while paired with others is a big ask when killers are mostly built to succeed by design.
Ya know unless you’re just up for that kind of asymm challenge. Then it’s great. Depends on personal perspectives I suppose.
Anyways 4mans are putting the game on easiest mode on the survivor side. It’s why they can do well but not know gate spawns. There’s things unless you’ve sunk a ton of time into research and playing that comms just makes up for. You get a ton of built in perks that anyone else just playing has to learn or use perks to make up the difference for. Comms is that influential.
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looks like you busted the code that dictates what happened first the “chicken or the egg” and “short circuited” the if thens pretty much that dictates input decision making, like a “flow chart”. So the code had a “mental breakdown” and then just resumed normal process to restart itself. That’s just my take.
It looks like the game was trying to figure out between the hit, you trying to throw the pallet and the killer holding the pallet overloaded the “flow chart”. That’s just what it looks like, and -could- be what happened.
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@justadreampallet said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3912867#Comment_3912867
I swear Mr. Prometheus you should rename yourself Mr. Tombstone.
also yea the haste perk will be abused by SWF it is unfortunate. It would be cool if perks were nerfed for SWF teams so they don’t nerf great Solo perks to balence itif there’s a will there’s a way, or maybe a debuff depending on opponent like if you load in and it’s pig or hag or something the haste percentage gets dropped to a lower rate until they get buffs(or don’t)to account for that ( I’m just brainstorming). I don’t envy the devs, the diversity of playstyle and side mentalities on top of skill and game sense on this game and problem solving to work it all out has to be absolutely maddening.
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@Prometheus1092 said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/443071/thoughts-on-or-s-that-s-punny-new-perks
While I agree the haste perk is op regarding swf and is likely to be nerfed to prevent abuse of the perk, I don't think we need any more perks to activate through hooks. Doing so would just further push the slugging thing so there would be no end of complaints. The perk definitely makes me happy I mained Myers tho, not much good against a tombstone 😁
You make me laugh, you’re funny. leave it as is then, and buff the m1’s suffering to keep up. I said what I said. Ya’ll holding everything from perks to maps back, and I’m tired grandpa. Myers is just built different. If anyone got them it would be myers.NGL if I wasn’t soloing I’d have a team meeting on how we all ended up slugged against myers, or tombstoned at 3 gens. The amount of times I’ve loaded in to watch my teammates feed you and now I’m roped into the tombstone smh. No haste perk is going to fix that, I’m sure a lot of them think or will think they’re really juicing you though, until they aren’t. 😂
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sure if it’s like a one time use or something, but being able to repeatedly do that stacked with other perks or even 4mans can get out of hand really quick. 4mans are my biggest concern with this.
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I wanna say yes it boosts it by 2 seconds but OoO is pretty generous so I don’t feel like eyes of Belmont is needed with it. I’ve never counted OoO seconds but it doesn’t feel lacking in the time department to get a read.
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I saw one the other day wearing the grandma big bad wolf outfit. I would have made it out too if I didn’t have to go touch that meat suit. My only regret is not wearing my little red riding hood sable outfit at the time :( I had literally just taken it off.
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@danielmaster87 said:
This has to be a bug. No way...
do we hit it with roach spray or let it happen? I’m fine either way 😈
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@brewingtea said:
Why does that house need THREE generators? Are they growing weed in the basement???
close the hydroponics system for all the daisies we’ll be pushing up if we dare enter. They should put a ring-able doorbell on it, ding dong ditch, I triple dog dare you.