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The only thing I don't get about this perk is that why you need such speed on reparing gens, if you're the last survivor?
It doesn't make sence to me. xD
It would be better if this perk will grant last survivor of hatch aura reading for 16-24m radius instead of gen speed....
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@konchok said:
This is something that I find so odd. When I play survivor, I have to wait for several minutes and when I play as killer, I get instant queues. But I am getting 100 percent bonus for playing survivor, why?
This system is encouraging players to play survivors. Obviously coz there is more killers at the time. I recognize this system from overwatch.
Survivors time was always long at the evening tho. Killers times at the mornings.
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@kaneyboy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3072293#Comment_3072293
I mean I end up running them for most of the gens but inevitably I usually die. But it’s not just me- I’m on about other team mates being tunnelled- only so much I can do to help and when we are helping to prevent a tunnel there is less gen pressure.
If so, from a bottom of my heart, I wanna see a gameplay of a tunneler, just to see what he was doing different from me.
I repeat: I tested a tunneling strat and it was garbage. Straight up garbage. I would lose the match with 2 hooks only (maybe even 1 hook), If I continue to tunnel 1 guy.
Repeat again: I wasn't playing nurse or blight with tunneling match, I was gf.
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@kaneyboy said:
Been camped and tunnelled all day :)
I understand being camped, nothing can fix that at the moment. But getting tunneled... Excuse me, but you sir just don't even trying to avoid a killer after unhook. Are you just staying still after you was unhooked or what?
Do people understand that tunneling is much harder and unefficient to do after patch?
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@CyberRoninX said:
Unfortunately with the updates new players wont stick around for very long. When a new player comes to the game they are very limited on the perks that they have access to. By nerfing key perks such as iron will it makes it much harder to learn the game and the mechanics. This puts all the decent perks behind a pay wall.
Not to mention with the killer being so easy to play any new player that plays survivor will not want to lose every game they join. When a new player enjoys the game and decides to continue playing they will spend money on dlc that was released long before new dlc. This is extra revenue that you will not see, sure the die hard fans will buy the new dlc but that's it. This seems like a huge loss for the company.
I wonder what others have to say about this. Does anyone else think that the nerfs will lead to a loss of player base?
New players with 1 perk are gonna play against 293823k hours killer mains? Did I miss something with this patch?
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@Marigoria said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3072239#Comment_3072239
Same thing here. I'd rather not get the bp boost if queue times are longer now instead of instant and I get new players in my lobby.
What can I say... Congrats survivors on overreacting on killers "10% buffs". This is so sad...
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@Phasmamain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3072200#Comment_3072200
Tunnelling is insanely efficient now. 2 examples are Pinhead and nurse.
Nurse can easily catch up after an OTR hit and makes DS near useless with the 3 second stun.
Pinhead running original pain add on can literally make OTR or BT useless now.
M1 killers, M1 stealthy killers my guy. I haven't played my main (nurse) yet, coz I wanted to finally enjoy other killers that I like.
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@versacefeng said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3072200#Comment_3072200
Even though Sadako and Ghostface aren't as strong as other killers, if you're struggling to even get 1 kill this patch you should probably stick to survivor.
I think you misread something, I didn't say I was struggling to kill, I told the guy, that tunneling is not as efficient strategy anymore as he thinks.
You're wasting more time going for unhooked survivor, rather than going for another one who reparing a gen.
For you to understand, the only struggle I was having with M1 killers is DH for distance. Now it's gone, and look. My mindgames matter now.
Who won the mindgame - won the chase. No more won the mindgame - lost to DH anymore.
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@RodDeWitt said:
"As killer you feel less forced to tunnel and camp as it seems games are slower now"
My ass, I've been camped and tunneled since I woke up. Don't know why, but I guess is because killers knows that gens are slower so that means theres more time to camp without carrying about gens poping out. And when I manage to loop a killer without deadhard and just by mind games, it seems to make them really angry and I not only got camped and tunneled but I get hit on the hook too.
Oh please...
Let's take a logical view - so you think this patch makes killers camp and tunnel you? Killer could do that even before update, so this update has nothing to do with this.
I tried some low-tier stealth killers (sadako, gf) to purpously tunnel someone just to see how spine chill, bt, otr and other stuff would handle this and to your surprise - I almost lost a match with 0 kills while tunneling. There is 0 ways that tunneling is efficient now.
It just makes me think that, you're played badly.
Gens are slower means only - "Why do I tunnel or camp? I have more time for chases, I don't need to play dirty anymore" mentality.
So I've 0 idea what are you talking about.
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Good bye the idea of "Waiting up for DH" and sniffing the survivors back.
I'd love to never know you again.
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@Slan said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3069608#Comment_3069608
Well, I don't have as much experience with tunnelling cases as I have with camping. That one is the problem. The Next patch tackles tunnelling more than camping, although they promised that would tackle camping. I see the worst Killers camping more than tunelling.
I've never seen camping as a problem or strong tactic.
If someone getting camped from beggining, survivors just rush gens and get out, don't even try to get to the hook.
If killer playing that way, give him his 1 kill and 3 escapes each match, after 3-4 matches this killer will reconsider his "tactics" to more fun and healthier way for him and survivors.
Tunneling on the other hand... I don't see tunneling as a good tactic after patch tho.
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@Slan said:
I have moreless clear how do toxic survs and bullys act. However, there are some things that I may not understand at all ( all the game language seems to be reduced to teabags and pointing, which is confusing for me) , and when I play as surv I don't want to come across as one of those creatures. And to avoid that, I would like to know what do they exactly do. So, how do those monsters act?
Usually, if they see killer playing bad it's the red flag for them to be toxic and confident to teabag and clicks.
Don't worry, killers with thousends of hours is not gonna be affected by any form of toxicity.=)
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@Devilishly_Rowdy said:
This patch is such a healthy change to the game. Gen speeds have been addressed and dealt with, along with camping and tunneling. Metas have been butchered. Dead Hard is dead (which is a massive relief lol). Basekit BT isn't that hard to deal with compared to Dead Hard atleast. The endurance effect stacking is now fixed after the ptb. And the grind has been reduced.
But some players (especially survivors) are threatening to leave the game saying "oh killer sided patch, solo queue is destroyed". You do realize that these slight killer buffs were necessary because kill rates weren't high enough in the first place right?
Survivors afraid for their meta getting touched or shaked whatever...
Some of them just don't want to adapt to the fact, that game is getting healthier.
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@soulfire22 said:
just found another original and interesting nurse player, running knock out downing survivors, and then instead of hooking just leaves while she attempts to slug every single person on the ground.
can we please remove this killer already
Dude, i've seen some posts people just want to remove killers from a game like Freddy or Nurse... I mean, are you mad? xD
People complaining about this poor killer power, addons, EVERYTHING.
"This killer neckbotteling the game"
"This killer unhealthy for a game"
"This killer too OP"
"This killer should be reworked"
"This killer should be removed", what the actual hell is going on with these guys?
How about NO? How about you learn this killer and learn how to deal with her, instead of raging on forum and asking for removal of a character?
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Claudettes and Kates, any skins.
Usually they're not getting hatch or any form of mercy from me.
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@HATCH said:
STOP. please just stop what is wrong with you all I got tunneled more then 23 matches this week. Its more then the amounts of times I have tunneled. I did nothing wrong they just tunnel me for no reason. I just want to play the game. I swear to god I don't remember the last time I didn't got tunneled. If you don't have ds they tunnel you, if you have ds they just eat it and tunnel you again. My teammateas are no helping either I play solo. JUst stop for gods sake please stop I'm a killer main and I swear to god ıf I add up all the tunnels I've done in my life, it wouldn't exceed this week's.
Thats weird... I thought killer mains don't get upset when they're getting tunneled. xD
Either way... Like it or not, it's a strategy, and it's good against good teams.
Yes it's dirty, yes it's miserable, yes it's unlucky... BUT!
It's not exploit, it's not bannable nor reportable, and I do think it's the most eficient tactic against strong teams, when you're playing low tier killer.
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@Gary_Coleman said:
I've never seen anyone cheat on dbd... that I know of. In what ways do people cheat on dbd?
They usually play on highest mmr, they not last long tho. They changing nicknames every match, you can spot it if they play through steam.
There is "Blatant cheaters" and "Subtle cheater".
Blatant is not really serious or making any danger, you just sitting with them through match watching them freak out your game. F around with them or even maybe having fun till they got bored and let you go. Or you just dc.
The most dangerous is subtle cheaters which I personally HATE.
These guys trying so hard to hide their exploits and making the (let's say killer) think that, he's just facing a really good survivor. They're complete pretenders and jurks, whenever they feel like about to go down, they will bump their speed (just to point of killer speed), to reach something unreachable without exploits to make killer feel bad of himself. They usually will repair a gen (a little faster). They actually moving way faster, when you're not looking at them. They probably have endless stuff (med-kits, flashlight etc). They are actually making killer paranoid so much that next matches he will think of subtle cheaters even more and acuse more ppl of cheating coz of this paranoid... When they do get cought on hacking\cheating, they usually say - "get gud", you're just bad, I'm not cheating, ez killer, and other disgusting stuff.
I really HATE these kinds of cheaters (they're not players for me), and I do really want them to dissapear from this game. I hope...
Usually I get blatant ones, but I'm not sure how many subtle cheaters I get...They are the reason, I'll acuse someone of cheating out of nowhere, when the match was weird to me... Yes I'm paranoid.
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@Gary_Coleman said:
I've never seen anyone cheat on dbd... that I know of. In what ways do people cheat on dbd?
They usually play on highest mmr, they not last long tho. They changing nicknames every match, you can spot it if they play through steam.
There is "Blatant cheaters" and "Subtle cheater".
Blatant is not really serious or making any danger, you just sitting with them through match watching them freak out your game. F around with them or even maybe having fun till they got bored and let you go. Or you just dc.
The most dangerous is subtle cheaters which I personally HATE.
These guys trying so hard to hide their exploits and making the (let's say killer) think that, he's just facing a really good survivor. They're complete pretenders and jurks, whenever they feel like about to go down, they will bump their speed (just to point of killer speed), to reach something unreachable without exploits to make killer feel bad of himself. They usually will repair a gen (a little faster). They actually moving way faster, when you're not looking at them. They probably have endless stuff (med-kits, flashlight etc). They are actually making killer paranoid so much that next matches he will think of subtle cheaters even more and acuse more ppl of cheating coz of this paranoid... When they do get cought on hacking\cheating, they usually say - "get gud", you're just bad, I'm not cheating, ez killer, and other disgusting stuff.
I really HATE these kinds of cheaters (they're not players for me), and I do really want them to dissapear from this game. I hope...
Usually I get blatant ones, but I'm not sure how many subtle cheaters I get... They are the reason, I'll acuse someone of cheating out of nowhere, when the match was weird to me... Yes I'm paranoid.
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@lemonsway said:
Trying to understand something here...
So the game is grindy AF, more so for Survivors than killer, that's much is easy to figure out.
So my problem is understanding why do Survivors gen rush if that means they're getting less BP!?
Why are you gen rushing and bringing BPS or Cakes!? You want the measely 20 to 25k BP in an extra BP scenario!?
You're still missing DOUBLE BP cause you're not doing anything else...You're wasting even more BP than normally.
Why bring Toolboxes and gen rush when you have extra bp offerings!?
In terms of blood points... Gen rush is similar to killers slugging. Either way... The faster the match ends - less bp you get.
So there is 0 points bringing the cake.
Survivors gen-rushing is not actually a thing that you can argue about.=) It's their first goal, second goal is to escape through gates.
When they feel threatened, they will gen-rush. When they want go up mmr, they will gen-rush. even when they want blood points, they will gen-rush and escape (+5k).
Gen-rush is not a crime. It's healthy for win, it's a valuable tactic for getting escapes.
Still you have to have at least 1 decent guy, who can loop the killer tho.
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@FeelsBadMan said:
I can't remember the last time I encountered a Nurse that didn't run the purple range addon.
If you played nurse both with and without range addons, you'd understand that even 1 purple range addon making her much stronger and harder to react.
I played nurse both sides with every single addon. And I do agree, only range addons feels completely busted to play against, especially if this is a good nurse player.
Without range addons, she feels like 30-40% slower with her blinks at any range, thats why survivors at least have more time to react and change direction, double-back, etc.
Her range addons are actually unhealthy, I can't say otherwise.
Without range addons, she's not that strong, let's be honest here.
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Guys (those who want a rework for her), how many times ppl who actually main nurse with 23382398 hours on her have to tell you...
She can be beaten. She's not op. It's hard yes, it's different tactic yes. But it's not unbeatable. The tactics already been spoken above in this thread, you can find them all the way in Youtube, and other sources.
The only BUSTED thing about nurse right now - range addons. Survivors just PHYSICALLY can't react to that speed, especially when she blinking close or mid range.
That being said... One more time... Just nerf her range addons, or rework THEM, NOT HER!
Her base-kit is fine.
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@Swiftblade131 said:
Oh this one again, let's try it one more time everyone
Nerf addons, not the base-kit
Yet 3 blink still exists, gj BHVR
Agreed just nerf addons, don't touch base-kit.
3 blink addon is not that good tho. I was using this addon just out of curiosity (it was maybe a year ago...), and it didn't worked out.
If you're not using recharge addons, it's actually a nerf to her ability. I've so many situations, (I should blink now, before she reach that wall, or jungleJ) but I couldn't, coz you have to wait like 12 seconds before my blinks are ready (at least 2 blinks).
That addon is only good for first hit, while you have all 3 blinks ready. Other than that - it's a meme addon.
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@MikaelaWantsYourBoon said:
Spirit is strong killer but she countered so hard by Iron Will & Dead Hard.
Now both perks nerfed to ground. So question is on title. Do you think she will be more popular after patch dropped?
100% more popular. There was only 1 perk (and it's not DH) which kept her from picking for so long.
Now maybe... Just maybe... We'll see more "Stridor Rin" in games. I wouldn't mind personally!
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Due to my knowledge and expirience with all killers, here's my conclusion...
- Survivors love chases. They don't like other mechanics that some killers have (traps, range hits, blinks)
- Survivors love to play against M1 killers, insta down killers (aside from bubba), stealthy killers.
The most favorite killer to play against for survivors is: Ghost face. (Yes, it's not Myers guys).
The most HATED killer to play against for survivors is: Hag.
So why Ghost face? He's funny from survivor point of view, he's not very strong (basic M1), he's stealthy killer who can jumpscare for even more funny situations,
he can teabag(sorry), and yeah. The match for survivors against ghost face is usually not that stressful.So why Hag? She has "Anxiety" abylity, which is traps. She is the killer who constantly camping a hook (even within 35m away from, and yes, survivors don't like campers) hag has only 2 counterplayes, which she can counter with 1 perk and 1 addon, she's not a chase killer (for most survivors it's boring), she feels too cheap to be that strong (i'm not even kidding, you just placing traps and spamming "ctrl" or other button), and for last... She is the only killer, I have constant DC's from survivors in maybe 8 matches out of 10.
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It's ok using DH against nurses or blights.
Other than that it's a crutch perk at it's best.
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People asking for rework, I feel like they completely forgot about 1 thing - Swf sweat squad.
If the nurse and blight is gone to A tier or lower - swf will be uncounterble.
And good luck playing Artist, Nemesis, PH, Sadako or any other killer against swf sweat squad bullies.
Your matches is 6 min long and these survivors are gone through the gates with you having 0 hooks.
By this time swf are superiour of this game, with no counter.
Nurfing S-tier killers means... Reworking the game entirely: maps, pallets, perks, etc, just for other killers to have at least a 30% chance to win without blight and nurse.
These "NURF THE NURSE" ppl needs to think of some stuff that they don't see or forget.
(yeah, I agree her range addons when used both is kinda op). xD
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@DoritoHead said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3063247#Comment_3063247
Even if people enjoy going against Nurse, that doesn’t change how strong she is. Plus, more people will play Nurse once they realize how strong she is, meaning at higher MMR brackets Nurse is the killer in almost every game, which can quickly become unenjoyable.
Not many people play Hag as is so a nerf would likely kill her entirely, but she’s also too strong already to be buffed. Maybe some QoL changes that don’t necessarily make her more powerful could be nice.
Let's face the truth, nurse is the only way to get highest mmr (aside from blight), don't you think that maybe buff other killers so they can get the same results as a nurse would do, rather than killing the killer to their spot?
If so, be prepared to face ONLY blights on high mmr, just saying. (If someone cares actually)
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@DoritoHead said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3063237#Comment_3063237
People generally enjoy going against Nurse more than they do Hag.
A pain to play against doesn’t always mean strong, though for Hag specifically she is quite good, just not better than Nurse.
So does it mean, that we need a hag rework too, don't you think?
I mean if it's not fun for so many ppl, why no one asking for rework?
And if ppl enjoy to go against a nurse, why they asking for nerf or rework?
P.s - I don't really need an answer.=) But it doesn't make sence to me, if everyone think nurse IS SO OP, than it's not suppose to be fun to go against, if it's not fun to go against - DC.
People don't DC against nurse often, even if it's a "God nurse". They still playing, they still trying their best.
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So 70% complains about nurse being "OP", and needs a rework.
But no one complain about hag and her best addons, yet 2-3 ppl DC's from 3 games out of 4.
I don't see ppl DC so much against a nurse tho. Why is that?
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Here is almost end game situations, killer facecamping one of your teammates, and all 3 of you just get out. Simple.
Due to ds and otr being off, it's better for you to save yourselves as sad as it looks for hooked one.=(
You can still try to save him\her, but it will recuire a better plan as it is now.
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DS should be brought back to 5 sec stun and...
I think thats it. Other than that I'm all about new update to bring some love and fair games to M1 killers.
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@Advorsus said:
I highly disagree. I'm totally everyone's friend and all survivors should come give me a hug 😈
OH HELL NAH
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@Omans said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3058942#Comment_3058942
Face a good nurse first, please.
Hello, let me introduce myself.
I'm a nurse main with thousends of hours, and I still struggle to play against the sweatiest swf even with best addons and perks due to insane gen speed and great knowledge of survivors on how to counter nurse. OO
Do I still think she's op? She's strong but not op. Can this thread be closed? -_-
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@dugman said:
I recommend Prestiging now to at least level 1 because if you do it before the patch then you’ll be rewarded with two extra Prestige levels automatically (i.e. your Hag will immediately jump from P1 to P3). That’s like getting 100 free bloodwebs on Hag in terms of unlocking her perks on all your other killers!
You will lose your current collection of add-ons and offerings but you’ll get those back pretty quickly as you play her so I think the two Prestige level bump is well worth that trade off.
He's gonna lose all cakes, don't you dare!
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@JakeCannon said:
So I just started playing about a month ago. I've mained only hag and basically only use the perks I can buy in store. I haven't prestiged yet (I've reached level 50 bloodweb just didn't prestige). The only perks I have unlocked are her teachables and the store ones. Should I wait to prestige until new update ?
Hello fella.
After update you'll have everything you have now. So I suggest you to wait, save bp and prestige after the update. You're not gonna lose anything by doing so.=)
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@Lecruidant said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3059063#Comment_3059063
Who are you showing off to when you will barely ever see that screen YOURSELF let alone nobody else will see it. Do tell the rest of the class.
There's a MASSIVE amount of people upset with this "Reward". Do you live under a rock?
No, I just don't really care about stuff that only I can see. xD
What I do care is outfits and cosmetics, that EVERYONE in the lobby can see.=)
Stuff that only I can see like portraits in the menu... Ok cool, but I don't really care.
On the other hand is the prestige number at the end game menu, this one I think is really good.=)
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No, tunneling is a really unhealthy thing for learning and whole expirience of the game.
On the killer side... It's unfortunatelly is necessary some time... Coz it's strong.
We'll se after update tho.
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@Deme said:
Why do people say nurse is hard to learn/play? You just need to get muscle memory for the blinks and thats it. She ignores half of the mechanics just because she can teleport: no hiding red stain, no footwork, barely any patrolling, little to none time management and she ignores pallets and walls.
Someone please tell me how is she harder to play than blight and billy.
Exactly the Learning process is much harder than blight and billy, but once you got it, it's easier to play than these 2 crackheads. xD
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@Sheldor said:
And why is that good ?
Why bother playing a game at all where as a solo queue player your chances of winning a game (getting out alive) is barely 10-20 % ? Getting defeated by crybaby killers who cried for years to make the game harder and harder for survivors with every patch in 8-9 out of 10 games ?
Best decision is to move on to other games.
solo queue player your chances of winning a game (getting out alive) is barely 10-20 % --- Whae?
From where you got these numbers?
I don't really see any changing in the future personally. The game is just gonna be more fair to killers.
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Never seen any issues with doctor, nor against.
Sorry for no clear answer.
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You do understand that it's only for ppl who cares or who just want to show off, right?
Other than that, no one gives a damn, about "your" portraits or charms.=)
They are here to play a game and have fun.=)
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The Chadiest Chad King - David.
If serious...
Need perks like BT, OTR - must have.
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@dictep said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3058971#Comment_3058971
and what about survs mind gaming the killer and get caught only because of bloodlust?
The killer is DESIGNED to eventually catch the survivor in any chase. And if you're as a killer while in chase focusing on Bloodlust, you're clearly not good in mindgames and chases.
Besides survivors that are complains about Bloodlust is clearly not good survivors as well.
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@Jasonisanicefella said:
Dead hard is gone, halleluiah!
and now killers have received some nice buffs, and it is now time to rework nurse and bring her in line with all the other killers who cannot break the rules of the game.
Can we have a date on this please?
Can we stop Itching about poor nurse and actually put time to learn how to deal with her?
You're insane for thinking that Developers are gonna ruin players hundreds thousends of hours practicing this killer to actually get decent or good with her just coz someone just don't want to learn the basics of how EASY to counter nurse.
Yes it's easier than it looks, believe it or not. Youtube is the key.
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@Gindaen said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3059009#Comment_3059009
Every survivor now has automatic endurance on one-hit-downs in this patch? I didn't read that part.
I mean... It doesn't make sence to me go after unhooked survivor with killers like blight or nurse. (Tunneling)
But if they want... This is gonna be a hell of a deal, if survivors are smart.
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@JimbusCrimbus said:
Survivors aren't going anywhere.
This.
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@Gindaen said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3057923#Comment_3057923
So now that survivors have no counter for Nurse, Blight and one-hit-downs everything will be great.
This patch has way to many killer buffs and way to many survivor nerfs to last, once it goes live.
Dude... They now have endurance. For quick killers like blight and nurse it's a hard counter if you know how these killers work.
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@Aneurysm said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/3058982#Comment_3058982
How exactly did DH counter one hit downs?
Only if you're already injured (somehow) - Yes it counters.
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@BringShaggytoDBD said:
No one cares if you have an exclusive skin, charm, background, rank or whatever. No one cares how long you've been playing the game for.
I don't understand why people on this forum are crying so much for a stupid reward. Find joy in playing the game instead of comparing dick sizes. It's so pathetic and immature to feel so entitled to a reward simply to show off. How much attention do you seriously crave? You didn't cure cancer ffs, you literally played a video game.
Same.
Show off is the reason ofc...