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…This mode isn't going to be fun, is it?
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@bjorksnas said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3760915#Comment_3760915
Well the only restriction I can see that might be annoying is that billys saw doesn't instant down but it is hard to make killers play nice together, if you have ever done the multiple killers bug in custom games back in the day you would know that some killers together just wreck havok on the games code and don't function properly. Can't imagine trying to make every combination work off the bat it would take another year at least.
if you have ever done the multiple killers bug in custom games back in the day you would know that some killers together just wreck havok on the games code and don't function properly.
Not a custom game, but an actual match. Randomly happened once, my Freddy and another Billy. Surprisingly, everything functioned properly. Those survivors had no chance.
Anyway, maybe they should have released this mode only when everything is available. Because 5 killers and 8 survivors when both have more than 30 in total? It is underwhelming.
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@Mooks said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3760506#Comment_3760506
Double Trouble
great.
now I will think about Team Rocket when playing this mode.now I will think about Team Rocket when playing this mode.
To protect the Fog from devastation.
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"This is my world. And you can't ever leave." — Freddy Krueger
"Shining in the darkest dark, his eyes pierce the night and sting your soul."
Some killer offerings also had good quotes, like these two:
"Avoid walking in the mud or The Hag will eat your bones."
"Your secrets are safe with me."
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For a mode that was highly requested, it seems to me this first version of 2v8 will have way too many restrictions to be actually enjoyable.
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Knight and Huntress would be amazing. Several opportunities for a survivor to get hit, they are never truly safe.
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I have not bought Wesker's chapter and I definitely never will. A poorly designed killer that should have never been added to DBD.
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Pre-rework Freddy, of course. To me, there is nothing more important.
@versacefeng said:
Toggleable legacy feature for old things like the hud, map lighting, animations and some other stuff.
I love ya <3
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@JPLongstreet said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3755276#Comment_3755276
This I felt my friend, right to the soul. 😕
It is a tough situation, my friend, most certainly.
We could never have expected the game to remain static, but there are SO MANY things that should have been left unchanged.
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@AggressiveFTW said:
In high level gameplay where the Survivors are both good at looping and be efficient on gens, playing Killers without mobility built-in is very difficult to get a win with. It's sad that we no longer seem to be able to make new Killers without some form of teleport, or fast speed ability to get across the map, to be viable in high level gameplay. Because gens fly by so fast, really no matter if the Killer is efficient in pressure and chases.
It's been like this for a long time, but the game keeps getting more competitive and sweaty for each new year. And that means this problem will get bigger and bigger.
This makes coming up with unique Killer designs more and more restrictive, because you always gotta keep that in mind.
I think we will no longer see type of Killers like Trapper, Clown, Bubba, Deathslinger, Huntress, Trickster and Ghostface. Which might be good because today's standard is different and has to be met with different solutions. But many people like to play with simple powers and not have that many things in your kit. If you are a high level player you can't really play with those simple powers if you want to win.
But it's insane how much this game has changed over the years. I don't think the game should be balanced around high level gameplay, I think it should somehow be balanced so everyone can play and have a good time. But we can't forget the players who play at a high level, where seconds spent doing something can be the reason you lost.
I'm not really sure what I really wanted to say with this thread but yeah. Just some random thoughts.
"But it's insane how much this game has changed over the years"
More than it should have, thats for sure.
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@Rulebreaker said:
We're in a similar boat to the general above. We'd like the old Freddy back. He was the most unique at the time and would be again.
Thanks, friends :)
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@HerInfernalMajesty said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3754090#Comment_3754090
Long time no see! I immediately thought of you when I read the response. I’m so glad to see that you dropped by 😊
Excited to see what happens to Freddy!
Good to see ya, my friend! Indeed I haven't been here much, that update with the rubber banding made the game literally unplayable for me, and during the anniversary I was playing Elden Ring's outstanding DLC.
But it seems Freddy is getting a change, and I must be here for that! It has been 5 long years, hard to believe this journey of mine for Freddy might end soon.
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I cannot possibly expect to suddenly see my own concept for Freddy added to the game, but I desperately want my killer back.
I just want to play the same killer that made me fall in love with this game all the way back in 2018. Even if it is him without a single QoL improvement, I would be happy.
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@Dwight_Fairfield said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3754108#Comment_3754108
I just hope they listen to the community. When you read people's suggestions for how Mikey should be changed nobody is looking for a rework of him. They just want buffs to his existing kit, and the tombstone add ons nuked of course.
That's my hope/expectation. They've captured the essence of his character with his power, it just needs updating to put him in a more comfortable spot.
I see.
I must admit I don't want to see the Tombstone add-ons nuked, but other than that I agree with the community's opinion here. Myers really doesn't need a full rework, just some buffs.
@ColdCobalt said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3754090#Comment_3754090
@GeneralV You were the first person I thought of reading this. As a fellow huge fan of Freddy, I am so excited to see what they do for him. Let's hope they make him decently viable!
I'm hoping for decent changes, my friend, I really am. Freddy has always deserved better than to be left to rot for so long.
@KaTo1337 said:
https://us.v-cdn.net/6030815/uploads/U3TBUC17YH0Y/57725.jpg
Welcome to my world, #########!
We Freddy-Mains highly recommended an update for the King of all Slashers out there! Finally the goal seems to come closer to us!@GeneralV is it possible that we finally can win our endless fight for Freddy? We should make the PTB together to create an awesome feedback for Peanits and the devs.
@GeneralV is it possible that we finally can win our endless fight for Freddy?
I sincerely hope so, my dear friend! It has been 5 long years of waiting, and I'd like to finish this journey with a victory, if possible.
Whatever happens, I'll be here as soon as the changes are released in the PTB.
@ili said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3754090#Comment_3754090
we cannot lose hope.
We won't, my friend. We won't.
@JPLongstreet said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3754090#Comment_3754090
Pulling for you my friend! You've been beating the Frederick drum longer and louder than anyone!!
Thank you, my dear friend! Freddy IS the very reason why I joined the Forums in the first place. The reason why I insisted on Old Freddy's return whenever I could.
And it seems this long journey is going to end soon. For better or worse, I'll be here when it happens.
@katoptris said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3754090#Comment_3754090
Freddy will finally be himself again 😭
That is what we are all hoping for, my friend!
@CountOfTheFog said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3754090#Comment_3754090
Good to see you back my fellow Dream Deamon! I can't wait to see what they do!
Good to see you to, my fellow Freddy main. Our long, LONG wait is finally coming to an end.
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@TatsuiChiyo said:
My dream is that we get old Freddy back with qol changes. I mained him back in the day and he always felt like such a unique Killer to play, just the gamr environment and meta at the time made him useless
We're in the same boat, my friend. It has been five years, a very long wait, but this might be it.
Maybe we are getting our killer back, after all this time.
@SoGo said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3754090#Comment_3754090
I really hope these will be good. Freddy has so much potential to be good, they just need to do the right steps.
So do i, my friend. It was never right for Freddy, once the most unique killer in the game, to remain in his current state for so long.
@Dwight_Fairfield said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3754090#Comment_3754090
I was hoping you'd see this, king.
And I thank you for sharing it here, my dear friend!
Your main is also in the radar, as we knew he would. Any expectations?
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Finally!
Please, PLEASE let it be the changes he actually needs.
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Knight is extremely fun, imho. But it depends on the player.
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@graveyard_7777 said:
@GeneralV opinions?
Yeah, Freddy has been in a bad spot for a while now.
Only wish I knew when he'll receive his changes, hopefully a dework, which have been long overdue. Earlier this year we were expecting to get some news about Freddy around the anniversary event, but nothing was said so far.
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@radiantHero23 said:
He has been for years at this point.
I really hope they follow @GeneralV 's route and revert him to his original state with lots of quality of life and buffs.
Then he would at least be a unique experience to play and play against.
Thank you, my friends <3
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Remember fondly the good old days.
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Then call me Azula, my dear friend!
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This is very elaborate, my friend, well done! I remember you said you were trying to come up with an interesting idea for Freddy, and I'd say you've succeeded :)
Also, thank you so much for your support <3
You know this journey of mine for Freddy is long, and all support is sincerely appreciated.
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@Pulsar said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3735225#Comment_3735225
That's true, but I saw even less tunneling during the original Ruin era too
I think those are more a product of the game not being viewed as competitively by either side.
"the original Ruin era too"
Ah, good times!
Yes, the game becoming more and more competitive (even though we don't have an actual competitive mode, thankfully) is definitely a factor here.
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@Pulsar said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3733974#Comment_3733974
When we had Eruption, Overcharge, Pop and PR meta, Killers still tunneled with those four extremely oppressive slowdown perks.
Why was that? Because this notion that Killers only tunnel or run slowdowns because they have to is simply false. They run it because it makes the game much easier. And why shouldn't they run things to make the game easier for themselves? It's up to the Devs to adjust those strategies.
I gotta say I did see a little less tunneling during the original Ruin + Undying meta. That could have been luck though, I know the experience wasn't the same for everyone.
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@Seraphor said:
It was always going to happen this way. 2v8 as the game is currently can't work, but the community never shuts up about it so this is what we get.
@Aven_Fallen said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3718795#Comment_3718795
I think the same. I dont think that 2v8 will be popular after a short time. Regular SoloQ is already rough with 3 random players, with 7 it sounds like a nightmare.
And considering that aside from Trapper the first 5 Killers are at least decend and with Billy and Nurse being VERY strong, I think it will be really hard to play that as Survivor outside of an SWF. So I guess Killers will either face 4 man SWFs or straight up SWFs of even more than 4 people in this mode.
(Really dont want to be negative here, but I always said that 2v8 will just not be popular once the novelty wears off and I stick with that.)
To be fair, my friends, I don't think anyone expected such heavy restrictions right from the get go.
Replacing hooks with cages was a given, and we knew it would happen. But I am sure everyone expected to play the characters they like to play. Now it seems like you are basically screwed if you don't main any of the first 5 original killers (excluding Hag for some reason, even though she was here before Huntress).
The very reason why everyone wanted 2v8 was for killer duos. Yes, BHVR will changed the mode eventually, but its very first version won't have the one thing people wanted. I can understand the frustration.
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@Huge_Bush said:
Can’t have a Freddy thread without @GeneralV
That is true, my dear friend!
Well, there are many good ideas on this thread.
Here is my concept, OP, if I may share it:
“Death won't accept him and thus he remains, a calamity, indisputable master of his victims' nightmares.”
Power: Dream Demon
Pull survivors into the Dream World
-Survivors who are awake do not see The Nightmare.
-Once targeted by The Nightmare’s power, survivors enter the Dream Transition for 7 seconds.
-During the Dream Transition Survivors can see The Nightmare intermittently and they suffer from the Incapacitated status effect.
-When the Dream Transition Lapse, the Survivor is pulled into the Dream World.
Once in the Dream World:
-Survivor’s auras are revealed to The Nightmare when they are outside of his terror radius.
-Survivors suffer an action speed penalty of 40%.
-To exit the Dream World, Survivors can find non-sleeping Survivors to perform a wake up action.
-Failed Skill Checks can also wake up.
-Hooked Survivors wake up.
Special Ability: Dream Projection
-Teleport to a Generator in view. Releasing the button early will cancel the action.
-Survivors cannot interact with the targeted Generator.
“You have nothing to worry about. This won’t hurt one… little… bit.” -Freddy Krueger
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Yep, and it was awful.
I am probably not playing DBD at all until they fix it.
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@HerInfernalMajesty said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3709586#Comment_3709586
Where have you been?! Btw I was kidding when I said Freddy was a joke. I just say that so I’m not afraid so that he doesn’t get me in my sleep.
Hello, my friend! Good to see ya.
I haven't been here much, that is true. This new patch is horrible and I haven't been playing DBD. Probably won't until they fix this rubber banding.
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@katoptris said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3709300#Comment_3709300
Oh how I missed the og Freddy's auras in dream world.
Same, my dear friend. Same.
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This patch is horrible.
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Nice!
Always good to see my favorite killer again. Wish I had my own screenshots and footage to share.
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@Starrseed said:
https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3704681#Comment_3704681
at this piont bhvr really needs to involve the @GeneralV in the rework of freddy. he is THE freddy main everyone that is longer then a week in the forum knows
Thank you friends, I really appreciate the support <3
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@Xernoton said:
I would love to hear what @GeneralV thinks about this.
Personally, I don't like the idea of his dream snares (they're just a boring knock-off of Clown's purple bottles with less utility and more weaknesses), so I hope they'll give him something else. He definitely needs something to help him out in chase but dream snares are incredibly boring and pretty unispired.
The rest of this sounds very nice. I like the idea of Dream Props very much but I think 25 is a tad much. Maybe go with 15 and see how that goes first. Also, for some reason I would really like them to add special dream hooks, that don't exist for survivors outside of the dream world (survivors could enter the dream world manually to save their team mate however).
Thanks for mentioning me, friend!
It is definitely not a bad idea, and I like how close to Freddy's original design it is! Though having something for chases can be a bit concerning, because his kit already has a lot.
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Here are mine:
Fun to play as:
Wesker and Pinhead are absent because I've never played them.
Fun to play against:
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@Huge_Bush said:
- Freddy
- Freddy
- Freddy
- Bubbi Boi - needs to have two chainsaws and should helicopter spin when using them.
- Myers- Scratched Mirror stays the same or they can make me happy and let Myers walk a little faster when it’s equipped. Or at least let him walk faster when not in chase and survivors can’t see him. He should be able to kill anyone at basekit but only when they’re on death hook and Tombstone be reworked into something new.
- Sadako. She needs a new team with a fresh outlook at what she can do. She’s underwhelming in everything she does. She just has nice visuals.
<3
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I really hope they add 2v8 as a modifier. It would be awesome!
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Nope.
It is always terrible to have a rage quitter in your game, no matter which side.
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It was niche, but better than the one we have today.
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A killer I'd be happy to never see again.
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Ah, so that is what high MMR looks like!
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Pre-rework Léry's will always be my favorite map in the game, so I am biased towards indoor maps. They aren't bad, they just force you to play a bit differently.
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The removal of SBMM from the game is something I'll always support.
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Oh, nice! I love those Tier Lists.
Here is mine:
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No, definitely not.
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I'm a 2018 player! Those were good times.
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I play lots of stuff, actually!
I love From Software games (especially Dark Souls Remastered, which is my favorite), Pokemon, Cyberpunk 2077, and Overwatch, though I do wonder why I still bother to play that one.
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@KerJuice said:
I invested way too much money into this game to walk away now. Even before things started to upset me, I invested too much. I’m going to keep voicing my opinion on what should be changed, because my dollars contributed to the development of the game. I can’t help but have hope things will get better at some point.
Besides, as much as I love Texas Chainsaw Massacre, it’s not enough to dethrone DBD as my number one main game. Neither is Overwatch 2 which is also sucking balls these days. I left GTA Online a year ago because of the futuristic nonsense and blatant shady monetization practices. Until GTA 6 comes out, I have no other game that interests me for being my number 1. So for now, DBD it is, and I’m going to complain online to blow off my frustrations.
Neither is Overwatch 2 which is also sucking balls these days
These days? It was never good.
An excellent example of how to kill a good game.
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I sure hope you're right, my friend.
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I don't like them. They ruined my precious Space Billy.