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@danielmaster87 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2839343#Comment_2839343
They'll rely on it, but that doesn't mean they'll do well with it. You can't just pick up a killer or an add-on and win. You have to learn and be skilled yourself.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2839346#Comment_2839346
There's nothing in the game that plays it for you.
It’s not about “picking it up instantly and winning” it’s about creating bad habits for new players that will rely on the combination so much to where they can’t play without it. It needs to be removed.
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2839726#Comment_2839726
Tbf we can tag @TheGannMan to double check but I had to reassure him on discord they didn't play anything alike 😭😭 when I say he's the #1 spirit fan I mean it
I definitely am and no one’s taking that title from me :)
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Spirit is still way more interesting. Sadako is ight but there’s really nothing special about her.
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@Exxodus21 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2839449#Comment_2839449
Calling something "whataboutism" doesn't change whether or not the point has merit.
Who are you, or who is any player for that matter, to decide what is correct play and what's incorrect play?
What data have you collected to show this particular add-on combo prevents players from being able to play Spirit in your approved way?
It is whataboutism because you’re bringing something up that has nothing to do with Spirit and your bias killer main guts can’t help but try to justify why survivors have everything good.
Did you not read my reply? What I’m doing is giving advice to new Spirit players on what no to do if they want to improve. I’ve played Spirit a ton, I have a lot of knowledge on her, so I’m just using my experience and applying it to helping new Spirit players that want to grow and improve with her. If people want to use it, I can’t stop that. Giving advice != shaming people for doing something.
What kind of data exactly? Meaningless kill rates? You don’t need data to know that the add on combo is a bandaid fix and teaches new players bad habits. She’s already S tier, she doesn’t need brain dead add ons to make it easier for her.
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@Exxodus21 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2839343#Comment_2839343
It's a poor argument because it could be said for a lot of perks and add-ons, especially on the survivor's side.
It also means you're trying to define correct and incorrect ways of playing when it should always be up to the individual player
Are you actually going to go there? This discussion is about Spirit specifically but you had to turn it into whataboutism.
Also yes I am trying to “define correct and incorrect ways of playing.” Is the way I’m doing it a problem? What I was doing was giving advice to players that want to learn her as the combo teaches players bad habits that will hurt them in the long run, I’m not trying to shame anyone that does want to use it. I know how much new players can rely on the combination making them unable to improve with her and am trying to address that.
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@danielmaster87 said:
"Not learning the killer right" is completely subjective, yet it's been used time and again to say that some perk or add-on combo is "unhealthy" or "needs nerfing" on a certain killer. If an add-on makes the killer stronger, even if the player is reliant on those add-ons to do well with the killer, I say more power to them. Bad players will not get carried by this add-on combo. They probably won't even know it exists. The few bad ones who do will fumble around with Spirit as usual and not see much success. Add-ons like this, like Pinky Finger, like Engineer's Fang, like Alchemist's Ring, only boost the power of the killer when they're in the hands of a skilled player.
How is it subjective when it’s true that the combo makes new players rely on it? I play Spirit a ton and I know.
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@Dionysus42 said:
No nerf required. Eventually people will stop crying about MDR.
Just a small nerf will do. It will still be very strong.
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@JonahsTablet said:
Finally! I've been telling people this for a bit now so I'm happy to hear the No.1 Spirit fan agrees with me.
Thank you for helping spread the word about those add ons!
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It’s the all caps title for me.
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@Tr1nity said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2839226#Comment_2839226
Did they ever give a reason for removing it?
Nope.
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@BrokenSouI said:
As someone who has hearing issues. It needs to stay unless they bring back fathers glasses as stated.
Which is a reasonable sentiment. Hopefully they do bring it back although I don’t have much hope they do.
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@EntitySpawn said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2839206#Comment_2839206
Lies, spirits dont exist still ;)
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/313109/new-chapter-today
I'm kinda excited, I know some little tricks with her but honestly kinda sad no map again
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@Phasmamain said:
It’s like running pinky finger on clown. Sure it makes him better but teaches you bad habits and doesn’t help you learn the killer. Luckily that was nerfed (In the most lazy way possible).
It could be interesting in MD ring made spirit somewhat visible during phase and cut her post phase lunge. It would make her more like a mobility killer instead of a chase one
Idk about decreasing her lunge but I like the idea of making her visible.
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I won’t know that much because I’ll still be playing Spirit.
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@GeneralV said:
Because BHVR simply cannot handle them.
Freddy used to be the most unique killer in the game, and look at the disgusting state he is currently in.
They know HOW to create an unique killer, but they fail miserably at handling them afterwards.
I can actually finally reply to this. Definitely agree though, Freddy looked like such an interesting killer back in the day and it’s a shame I never got to try him out. He won’t be as fun as Spirit as no one will top Spirit for me :)
Maybe one day they’ll bring him back.
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Happy National Women’s Day to my amazing girl 🥰
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The game isn't dying any time soon.
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Hello and welcome to the fog!
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Who tf is quitting against Billy?
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@Alice_pbg said:
did people really waste 3 pages of this thread arguing on who they should blame instead of agreeing that behaviour needs to do something about it and at the very least add a seizure warning when you start the game?
be better, people.
It’s the DBD forums. Are we really surprised?
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I feel the same way.
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@CrashMADDS13 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2838302#Comment_2838302
Why do you keep posting spirit propaganda?
Because I can and I want to.
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@CrashMADDS13 said:
Spirit propaganda
Why do you keep saying that?
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@ukenicky said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/312935/why-spirit-is-fun
Honestly, mostly biased survivor main here but I have to agree with all of these points.
I absolutely adore Spirit. She's one of my favorite killers to play as and against (Well, except when the Spirit is using cherry blossom + mother daughter ring and there's 0 chance of hiding from them but that's beside the point).
I definitely think complaints for those two add ons are justified. I never use them and she’s still fun and strong without them. In fact, she’s way more unfun with those add ons.
@ThiccBudhha said:
She is good practice to roleplay as Sadako early. And even after her release, she will still have value, as a budget basement Kayako. Very fun.
And also if you want to play a 3v1, she is one of the best to get survivors to DC on the first down. Tactical advantages without even needing to beat them on hook. Very strong.
Sadako<Spirit
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@chargernick85 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2838228#Comment_2838228
He he he. I thought it was funny.
can't wait to try the new and improved Spirit.
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@Dionysus42 said:
Spirit is great and a lot of fun. Here are my suggestions to make her more fun:
-Reverse the nerf and give a one time sound when she enters and leaves phase instead.
-Make brown speed addon base kit
-Make her 115%
-Give her cosmetics every fortnight.
-Make Stridor counter Iron Will again
-Give her a survivor version as well (they can re-use the model as Ultra-Rare on killer too for ez money)
-FInally, make her relationship with Yui official (wedding event and cosmetics)
With these small adjustments, I think she can become an even greater killer, and truly put the S into S tier
I think she’s in a good enough spot now. I think I would mainly want to close the gap between Iron Will and non Iron Will and make passive phasing more interactive. Also a MDR nerf, DCB rework, Juniper Bonsai rework, Senko Hanabi buff, and Mother’s Glasses rework.
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@Dilif69 said:
i would main spirit if she can see blood during yamaokas haunting
I wish they didn’t remove Father’s Glasses.
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@chargernick85 said:
You talking about Sadako?
That wanna be Spirit?
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@ThatOneDemoPlayer said:
Switch Spirit with Demogorgon and I'll agree
Demo has nothing on Spirit.
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Steam with crossplay on
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No because I’m more excited to play Spirit instead.
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@CrashMADDS13 said:
Yeah, don't count on it. They only patched sadako because it affected survivors.
Despite years of epilepsy concerns for killers and macro flashlights, actual player health will never be more important than a toxic survivors ability to harass and bully a killer player.
Good job trying to change the discussion into us vs them.
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Do you mind elaborating?
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What a great way to start my Monday morning.
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Oh wow I hope your friend recovers from that fast.
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@Mileena_Kahn said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2837177#Comment_2837177
I consider the change from the PTB version a nerf… Therefore this would be the 3rd change/nerf it would get which, it doesn’t need.
It most certainly needs a nerf lol.
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It shouldn’t be in the game. There should be a cooldown on flashlights after turning them off.
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@DoritoHead said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2837034#Comment_2837034
And I HATE Spirit she is stinky and bad
(joke)
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Yes
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@MikaelaWantsYourBoon said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2837067#Comment_2837067
Dark Souls is better my man.
I love Spirit btw, she is super cutie. I love play against her but i don't like to play DbD so much anymore, sadly.
If you did get back into DBD, would you play her?
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@JonahsTablet said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2837062#Comment_2837062
You're, of course, entitled to your own opinion, even if it's wrong. I just think Silent Hill lore is pretty coolio, whereas the lore of the angry loud people bloodline is not as coolio.
I know lol. Whenever I say people are wrong when they say somethings better than Spirit, it’s a joke. Everyone’s entitled to their own preferences.
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@JonahsTablet said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2837057#Comment_2837057
True.
Silent Hill > Loud Japanese people
You see that just ain’t true
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@GoodBoyKaru said:
Imho she'll never compare to Pyramid Head
1v1 battle, Rin wins :))))))
@JonahsTablet said:
She's ok I guess, I don't really have a preference for killers, I just think they're all fine, except for Freddy, I despise playing against Freddy. It's sad because I actually love the og ANOES.
We all miss our old killer, even though I never got to play him.
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@psionic said:
I love Rin, she's the one who keeps me playing DBD.
In my opinion, she is by far the best designed character in terms of gameplay, the most unique and creative skill (tracking by hearing).
Actually, you can build up a real skill by playing Spirit and this is fun!
Hate the game or not, but you will have fun challenging yourself by playing Spirit. 😊
I feel the same way. The joy she gives me is what keeps me playing as well!
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@IlliterateGenocide said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2836958#Comment_2836958
Only addon on *new* spirit that makes me go "that didn't seem fair"
Do you wanna know the saddest part about it? People rely on it too much and think Spirit needs the add on with MDR to perform well. It teaches new players bad habits that will hurt them in the long run when learning Spirit. That’s why I want the add on removed or reworked into something else.
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@[Deleted User] said:
Glad to see you back spreading some Spirit love.
It’s what I’ve been called for!
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@DoritoHead said:
Yes.
I love you
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@IlliterateGenocide said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2836886#Comment_2836886
Dried cherry blossom gives me nightmares.
Same. Hate that add on.
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@NathyP11 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/2836886#Comment_2836886
What are good 2 addon combos for Spirit?
Uchiwa + Kintsugi Teacup is a good one. It’s essentially the pallet destroyer combo.
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At least GMP is fairly small.