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@Almo said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/954632#Comment_954632
I checked in the editor, the numbers are there. Unless there's a bug, which is possible. But the increase is small, so it wouldn't surprise me if it was within the error bars on an experiment with 200 samples.
Thanks for checking and explaining.
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@Almo said:
You get a higher percent of rarer items in bloodwebs when you prestige. While it's nice to get the good addons and stuff, that means each bloodweb costs more to go through.
Did you change that recently? Because the percentages kept the same for somebody who actually kept track of it for 200+ bloodwebs iirc.
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I have to imagine gabe newell, thinkin about stuff in HL2 while watching old episodes of mr bean.
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I hope he can work on gens
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@Zephinism said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/952037#Comment_952037
What do you mean by 'at red ranks'?
Don't the Developer stats released 1 month ago show that Red Rank Killers have an even higher killrate than other ranks? Plus all the games where Survivors D/C aren't included.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/106566/stats-november-2019
The thing is that those red rank stats are just utterly meaningless. What do you assume red ranks means? One or at least I thought this means, red rank killers v red rank survivors right (at least at the start of the match so they appear in the stats right)? Funfact it just means there was a red rank killer in it so yeah even a rank4 killer going against green survivors is counted as a red rank match so these stats are complete dogshit.
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@Kagari_Leha said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/954536#Comment_954536
She's still the best, she's just extremely harder to play. But once you get her to a good level again, it's all like old Nurse or almost
No it isn't like old nurse at all. She isn't the best. It is like a reverse spirit situation against good survivors, there really is no upside to being good with her and i do play her and do good with her. The hassle is not worth it by a longshot, you can have way more fun playin any other killer but doc/legion.
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Nah do not waste your time. There is no reward for being good with nurse, even when you 4k it isn't fun. The killer isn't the best anymore.
You can do the same with other killers so don't bother.
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Usually or the way it was is that from 16-20 rank is regarded as noob rank. People who start with the game, however when you keep playing the game you will get out of those ranks quite fast as ranking up is very easy. Keep playing at peak times so you might not get put against red ranks and with a little bit of luck get to go against people of your rank/skill.
Afterwards you will find lobbies way faster.
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@podkall said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/953935#Comment_953935
you should be happy on your consoles cause finding a game here on PC is matter of few minutes every time and for killer it can be even 10 minutes
What rank? As red rank killer i have instant lobbies as killer the only time that i actually have to wait when I do play killer is when it is morning.
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Dante as well
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@FearedbytheGods said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/951573#Comment_951573
Like I said..... 😏
Yeah i wanna prevent last time, you know where you defended yourself on the pages afterwards for the bs that you stated. Will you finally give me the video evidence where you mindgame the god loops? Still waiting for that vs the good survivors. 😘
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@FearedbytheGods said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/951546#Comment_951546
lol are you ok?
Your wall of text reminds me of the last exchange you had sometime ago, where I didn't bother replying. For the simple reason that there was no substance too it.
I don't see ANYTHING else here, just like last time.
Do you even know what subjective and anecdotal means?
I'm not going to bother posting the website deets I mentioned last time or the ingame timer. Because all your just going to conveniently forget it again and say something to the effect of 'no you didn't'.
😂
Yeah dude, keep talking about patch 1.5.0 lmao. This how long your evidence dates back. Git gud as survivor. Just like when you state facts about nurse. Nurse is broken killer. <- Those are your facts. Not anecdotal at all or completely irrelevant, lul. 🤣
Please go to urban dictionary and update wall of text with your definition. 😂
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Would be great if you state whether you play solo/swf/killer.
To me in swf it just sucks 10+ min is nothing. Killer instantly.
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@FearedbytheGods said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/951424#Comment_951424
Glad to see your anecdotal subjective takes, that really put me in my place -.-
What's even better is I went at length to explain (and give you evidence) of aforementioned points. I guess the issue is when it doesn't fit your world view.
But by all means provide some evidence this time round, maybe you have a point 🙄
What a joke.
Your conclusions are hilarious, meanwhile you have more killers playing survivor. Killer lobbies are instant, you seriously bring up the introduction of bloodlust (OMEGALUL) seriously if any survivor fails to survive it is because he/she/it is horrible at the game.
Your evidence has as much value as bringing up depip squad and act as if this is still the same game.
You went at length to give your opinion as a bad survivor who struggles even with all crutches available and most maps in favor of survivors with little to no challenge unless you face somebody that is really good but hey since matchmaking is a complete joke, you will only end up to own some noob that doesn't even have 3 perks.
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@sk1913 said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/951437#Comment_951437
I do not agree with your logic. DBD is a game. People DC because they are not having fun (killers and survivors). If people are not having fun with their game, I think it is a problem for the Devs.
More game balancing and in game penalty for unfunny and unfair behaviors should be implemented. For example BBQ it's a wonderful anticamping perk. And it works. Most killer with that perk don't camp. I'm sure Devs can work out something good again for a more balanced and funny game.
People dc mainly because it has no consequence and they tend to make some bs statement about fun. This argument about fun is hilarious, you people play a game where one side is supposed to kill the other and the others have to do generators in order to survive and get out.
That is the premise of the game and yet you want it to be some kind of everybody singing kumba ######### ya, holding hands while laughing and running in a circle. Deal with it that is not going to happen nor is it possible. The problem here is that people could dc forever with 0 consequence and that encouraged such an abnormal entitlement in this community like in no other game.
Oh something happened i do not like, ######### it, dc, oh a map i do not like, dc, oh a killer i do not like dc, oh ruin gone in 20sec, dc, honestly screw all those entitled snowflakes who ruin the game for everybody else.
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@laurelstroodle said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/949888#Comment_949888
I never said swf is fine, stop putting things in my mouth that I have NEVER SAID.
Im just being sarcastic and that's all.
And yes, I know those kind of swf exist, but how often do you see them?
Should we balance around the 1% of the community?
Should we screw solos and every other not skilled enough player?
That was what happened to nurse just for a few players. Most nurse players did suck and do even more now. Yet balance was made around the 1%.
This is what I expect from the devs going on, balancing around the best and not about the people that suck otherwise we can call it a day and do not need to delusion anybody that devs care about balance in any way.
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@Omans said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/951331#Comment_951331
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Nurse players before the nerf, as a whole, were the most boosted group of players I've seen.
Competent survivors fear Competent nurses still. I never feared nurses who weren't good, or were just decent. Those players aren't the reason she was nerfed. But those players are most vocal right now about her nerf, now that it isn't super easy to 4k with her just by learning her a bit.
No good survivor feared any killer at all ever.
If you were against a good nurse it was a nice match before the nerf (basekit) now it is so easy to play against her, the new map displays how much devs care for her.
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Imagine two people dc (which is against the rules) because you think something is annoying, in other words they ######### you and the other survivor over. You don't blame them but the devs.
Cant argue with that logic.
/facepalm
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@FearedbytheGods said:
I don't get this post.
People whine about survivor disconnects and want the devs to do something. They find that survivors find doctor annoying, devs do something, continue to whine about having done something.
Why don't we leave doctor as is, ban all the disconnects and then play lobby simulator as killers.
Great idea.
Metrics before going to dedicated servers demonstrate a consistent 2 survivors to every killer. You need 4 survivors for a game. Sometimes you see 3:1, but NEVER the inverse. Always, too many people want to play killer.
Over time the devs have consistently removed or nerfed the aspects that allow survivors to survive (vaults, pallets etc.), while buffing killers (bloodlust, more one-shot/instant find mechanics, end game hatch). Survivor mains did one of 2 things since release. Left the game or migrated to playing killer. The only survivor mains left are ‘new’ survivors who have no perspective or my favourite; killer mains that ‘play both sides equally’ -.-
The game is biased in favor of killers and the metrics show it.
If killers want to play lobby simulator, just keep making OP like this one -.-
This is a call from reality, killer lobbies are instant right now. DC were not only about survivors but also about killers but hey great story.
The metrics show nothing at all, maybe read up on it.
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@Waffleyumboy said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/951267#Comment_951267
Ruin doesn't decrease gen speed against skilled survivors. Unskilled irrelevant scrub killers think ruin will carry their terrible gameplay.
You have 0 clue what you talk about, you make statements that are wrong without backing it up.
Ruin has the most impact regarding gen times and even against good survivors it does work. You know when people do not get the extra progression for doing great skillchecks?
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@PistolTimb said:
Why complain? Take the loss and move on.
Should've taken your own "advice" when you have nothing useful to say just move on.
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How do you buff solo survivors without buffing SWF as well?
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You act like Epic always had that money when this company seriously was made in a garage.
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Nope
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Nope and I don't find her realistic either.
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Well because I do enjoy chases in the game, hag doesn't.
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Ah typical red rank match according to bhvr.
🤣
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@Omans said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/948979#Comment_948979
You've been to red ranks...? The content of your many posts about nurse led me to believe differently...
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/949097#Comment_949097
I too have played nurse much more than I ever did before the nerf. She was fundamentally a broken killer then. Now that she actually feels fair I'm sure more people will start to pick her up. Probably not more than the number of people looking for easy wins who played her before and have now dropped her, but still a respectable number.
But pleasing those kinds of people is impossible. They seriously thought basekit nurse, a killer stronger than any other killer using their strongest addons, was fine as she was. You can't really reason with that mentality, can you?
Stats show you are wrong, the pickrate is lower than the one of clown but hey i am sure more people are going to play him too. What do you base that on?
Basekit nurse is stronger than iri huntress? LuL k. People do not play her because there is no payoff for being good as nurse.
BHVR did a lazy af rework on her, slapped artifical cd on it and thought wow so good, while not even fixing bugs that existed for i dont know how long again lazy af.
Go play nurse on the new map that shows how good the killer is. Tell me how many deadspots there are. Seriously if you get a single kill as nurse on that map the survivors you played against are horrible.
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So the other survivors didn't do anything? Taking the game hostage usually means, iirc, that there is no other option but to dc. In this case however the other survivors should trigger EGC rather quickly.
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@siren_sorceress said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/948701#Comment_948701
His power reveals survivors close to him and then gives him free hits. Put on slow down perks like sloppy and you've got injured survs with only 1 hit needed for most of the game. I've gone up against plenty of good red rank legions. Hes not amazing but he can definately be effective in the right hands.
Well than you should know that ff + sloppy doesn't work anymore, ff hits are not normal hit and it also does not give stbfl stacks. If he doesn't hit he will be stunned btw. His power only reveals close by people after hitting someone and he doesn't know how much distance there is between him and the person.
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Legion is by far the weakest killer in the game, you might as well play any other 115% movement killer that has a power that can actually help in some way. The power of legion remains useless.
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@gantes said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/948040#Comment_948040
It's a balancing rule in any pvp game ever that the hardest characters to play have the lowest win rates.
At red ranks her kill rate goes to 65% which is absolutely an acceptable number for a killer as hard as her in comparison to the rest of the roster.
What happened before was that she had a 78% kill rate which should NEVER happen for any character with a high skill cap because then it means even people who are new at her were doing well, so the mains were unstoppable no matter what. The good ones at least.
At red ranks? Where do you get the stats from ? FYI red ranks in the released data by the devs only meant to have a red rank killer in the game, almo didn't mention the nurse stats ( oh i wonder why).
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Seriously git gud.
I have no clue what potatoes you play as killer, no decent survivor is mad about tunneling. Just like no good killer is mad about survivors doing gens.
How do you even die within 90seconds? Are you afk? Cant loop at all?
Survivors are not supposed to make the killer happy, killers are not supposed to make survivors happy.
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Is his stalking fixed by now?
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@xEa said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/946029#Comment_946029
well... according to you, that would actually even it up, if you get yellow/purple/green killer as Red rank survivor. Even it is true what this dev said, it does not matter at the end of the day since every role gets better or worse enemey from time to time.
Because you make some assumption? I dont know about you but when i find out that there are statistics which should represent red rank matches than I expect them to do exactly that and not only red rank killers, which are more likely to have easy matches against potatoes who are not able to obtain red rank survivor given that it is way easier to get to red ranks as survivor.
Also that is an utter speculation on your end to assume that every side gets the equal amount of bad matches.
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As red rank killer i get everything from red to purple to green as survivor i even get yellow killers.
You can call bs all you want, doesn't make it untrue. Just the fact that he has info we do not have access to. The data would look probably very diffrent if it was only for red ranks exclusive.
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@TheCrookedMan said:
I've seen talk around time about this being a casual game. It's not. It's so very not. For many many many reasons.
First of all, it's PVP. Someone wins and someone loses and players compete for the who gets to be which. It's a PVP game that requires SKILL. If it was completely 100% RNG then it would be casual but it's not so it isn't.
"It's the not the game it's the peop-"
No.
A game is as competitive as a player can make it. There's a level that someone can play at. Either you willingly decided not to be as good as you should be to win or you just weren't good enough to win. Calling someone a try hard (which in will always be just a dumb attempt to save face with yourself) because they decided to value a victory more than you is stupid and you have no one but yourself to blame for your loss and you deserve said loss.
There's also a Meta, perks you use that can heighten your chances of victory against other people, in order to win. Especially for Survivors.
To say this game is casual is completely asinine. This is a Matchmaking game, someone is going to bring their best build and if you just want to make a gimmicky fun build then that's on you and you will be rightfully awarded with an L.
The game is casual.
Yes farting can be made competitive too but that doesnt mean it is a good thing to do. Looking at the game from a competitive side only shows the ugly truth about unbalance in this game which gladly is ignored as ignorance is bliss.
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Please dont ever mention this redrank data again, japanese community manager confirmed that this means the game had a red rank killer.
In theory this means a rank 4 can go against rank 10 survivors and it will be counted as a red rank game which it is not at least not from my understanding.
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@DepressedClownMain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/940185#Comment_940185
It was very easy to play nurse. It said hard but she has always been easier to play than Billy, Huntress and even Trapper. Just lile Spirit
Grasping for straws this hard?
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@DepressedClownMain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/937848#Comment_937848
He played her again today, and won. This discussion actually motivated me to go to some popular streamers and ask them, and I clipped their responses. Zubat said nurse was still viable
Oh wow zubat won with a killer, stop the presses and make a special issue about it. Honestly when doesn't he win? That is rare on every killer.
Viable? Ofc she is viable and probably always will be just that she lacks any kind of reward, people act like getting a hit is a high reward which basicly every killer can get. You can stun her out of blinks,so ignoring pallets is not true. Her mobility is heavily nerfed and there is no point in being good with nurse.
An unfun killer that has no upsides, restricted to playin a boring way. What is the payoff for any person to learn nurse right now? There isnt one. Just a frustrating experience for people that dont know how to play her.
BHVR should rework the ranking system so only good survivors are in red ranks, it is filled with potatoes no wonder people do 4k against that. But since they can give out stats which show nurse is fine aka red rank pc only stats where they just had the requirement of a red rank killer. So technically an old nurse main could go against people that are in green ranks, find me any semi decent nurse player that does not walk away with a 4k from that. Against surivors who are so bad that they do not even rank up when it is so easy to do.
Against really good survivors nurse will struggle, no matter who you are. Thing is good survivors are a rare thing nowadays maybe they all got bored of the game being too easy at least that is what me and my friends feel.
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No. Pointless cosmetics with pointless charms maybe if there is anything worth in it.
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@DepressedClownMain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/937474#Comment_937474
And also, Tru3 and Otz think nurse is in a good spot. Also, there is a brazilian youtuber called Souza Soul that plays dbd, he is also a very good nurse main
LoL
True says is in a good spot yet loses, same with Otz he had a game where he was bullied as nurse 🤣 such a good spot. He only played her once and that was on ptb when the nurse was bugged and he was going against potatoes.
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@DepressedClownMain said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/937022#Comment_937022
And also, I know you are not someone willing to change your mind based on how you started this discussion but you can try to watch some streamers, most of them agree Nurse is in a good spot
Who exactly? Even zubat cant be bothered to play her. Also name a few friends of yours they should be quite famous with the 3k hrs each.
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@laurelstroodle said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/936713#Comment_936713
Yeah sure, can you pls tell me your xbox name?
and yeah I play at XBOX with a keyboard and mouse adapter.
LuL
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@arslaN said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/936711#Comment_936711
It still wouldn't mean much if it was red rank survivors vs red rank killers. Being in red ranks literally doesn't mean anything on the survivor side since it is so easy to pip. I've seen a rank 3 survivor self care against noed yesterday.
If the stats were somehow calculated with good killers and good survivors then it would actually mean something.
Nurse always had the lowest kill rates across all ranks as far as I know because her skill cap is the highest in the game and it's even higher now with her nerfs.
You know fine that I share the sentiment regarding rank and thus that I only play swf. Yet however you can expect a red rank survivor to have somewhat more knowledge to a yellow one.
Somehow stats have to mean something and that is as far as I am willing to go for a compromise but yeah probably a whole rework would be needed to get any stats which do represent data in a meaningfull way.
On the killrates, i checked them again the ones from '18 it has been plague with 52, clown and legion tied at 50. On the other platforms (consoles) it was nurse with 40%.
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@laurelstroodle said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/936360#Comment_936360
Well, I think they shouold still should balance the game for fun for both sides, we're playing a game to enjoy, not to get frustated.
And she has one of the best map pressure by far, cause being able to from gen to gen is the best.
Yeah you do? That is funny cause most nurse players tell you they have literally no fun to play nurse right now.
Lets play ormond, you as nurse against my swf and i show you what your map pressure is ok?
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@arslaN said:
So you guys ignore the stats when killers have 75% kill rates but suddenly it means something when nurse has low kill rates.
Such hypocrites lol
Actually that is quite inaccurate. Everybody said look at the low stats for the nurse across all ranks, many people argued that uh uh red rank is looking fine.
What people didnt know back then is the fact that red rank stats meant have a red rank killer in the match and nothing else so you can play as red rank nurse vs green survivors for example that doesnt say all too much does it? I mean you even meet potatoes in red ranks imagine people who are unable to rank up, given how easy it is to do so as survivor.
Now what do you think the stats would look like if it only included red rank killers vs red rank survivors? Stats show again nurse at the bottom but hey all good isnt it?
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The only problem there is with dc penalty is that people who are affected by bugs are punished too. Which kinda makes you wonder, they declared in the past they know the diffrence between a rq and a bug related quit. Other than that, dc punishment needs to happen because of too many snowflakes who can not be bothered to have it their way for 100% of the gameplay experience.
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@RandomHyperBeast said:
I don't know about you guys but when I play killer I don't have a problem with infinites as there not so hard to end and insane asylum just learn how to mind game survivors which can also be said about infinites
There really isn't a survivor sided map killers just don't know how end loops or decide which survivor to chase.
Dislcaimer: I do play Freddy alot so that's probably why I'm good at ending loops teehee
I wanna see you mindgame the god loops, make videos against good survivors who are actually not braindead.
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@laurelstroodle said:
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/935691#Comment_935691
Well, the thing is we dont balance around fun, cause if this were the case the game would be a unbalanced mess.
She's still S tier, but I wouldn't mind if they reduced the cooldown, but the cooldown is needed cause she has just a slightly fatigue for failing.
Her power is supossed to be High risk/High Reward
Without the cooldown it would be Medium-Low risk/High reward.
Still as I mentioned I wouldn't mind them reducing the cooldown, somehow nurse is fun to play against for me (If she's not doing scummy plays, slugging or using overpowered perks)
Actually they balance around fun, just that it is balanced around survivor fun cause we cant have that they actually have to do anything regarding skill. That is why it is so easy to rank up as a survivor and why even red ranks are filled with potatoes who have no clue what to do. If you go against potatoes fine, go against good survivors and nurse suffers the same problems as all others.
One of the best in map pressure? In what dream world do you live in? She traverses the map slower than a 115%ms killer how is that close to being the best in map pressure?