I like Hag personally, I have no idea why I dont play her more often. Like, she's strong and can be very devastating, but I think I just enjoy playing other killers? She's just not as fun to me as say Ghostface, Oni or Freddy. It's not that I dislike her, I just enjoy playing others more I guess
Everyone complaining about her 110 speed does not know how to play her. Not meant to be insulting.
agreed, and that's probably the main thing why many don't play hag or huntress. You really need to make the most out of their powers to be able to perform well
agreed, and that's probably the main thing why many don't play hag or huntress. You really need to make the most out of their powers to be able to perform well
Exactly. That's why I don't play Huntress. ######### FPS on PS4 and ######### aim
I enjoy hag honestly. From both sides. And I'm usually red ranks as survivor and if we face a good hag we are smoked.
I think it's kind of why you dont see trapper much. Its setup time and strategy both of which you dont have time for with the gens being done at lightening speed.
The only way around this is good situations (survivors suck, ruin hidden well, using her best addons, etc. )
Hag is painfully easy. She is highly oppressive and shuts down even the tryhardiest of survivors. If more people understood how to play her, she would be next on the killer hate train.
Hag is painfully easy. She is highly oppressive and shuts down even the tryhardiest of survivors. If more people understood how to play her, she would be next on the killer hate train.
If so few people know how to play her effectively then isn’t that proof that she isn’t painfully easy?
A common strategy good survivors use is to trigger traps while you're busy with another survivor. If a trap goes off somewhere else and you teleport by accident you'll lose the chase you were in.
This is the main reason i don't use the teleport distance addons lol
Hag is painfully easy. She is highly oppressive and shuts down even the tryhardiest of survivors. If more people understood how to play her, she would be next on the killer hate train.
A common strategy good survivors use is to trigger traps while you're busy with another survivor. If a trap goes off somewhere else and you teleport by accident you'll lose the chase you were in.
This is the main reason i don't use the teleport distance addons lol
That is true, even more reason to not make her range infinite.
Survivor pathing is consistent. There are many hotspots they will all gravitate towards, whether being chased or not. Pallets, windows, jungle gyms, and God loops and choke points can all be made dangerous with a well placed trap. Her map pressure is oppressive and virtually uncounterable without extreme survivor coordination, or niche perks and map addons/rainbow map. The only way to consistently beat her is to gen rush her, and she is the Queen of the 3 gen (she can struggle on certain maps like red forest, as her setup time and slow movement speed hinder her early game).
Funnily enough, though, I believe she is as bad as trapper when it comes to counterplay. If survivors *know* they are going against a hag then flashlights, urban evasion and small game COMPLETELY counter her power, making her a 110% movment speed killer that actually loses time when using their power. She is easy in the sense that unaware survivors are crushed by her presence, but coordination completely guts her power and makes her absolutely unfun to play.
Shes high tier..not top..why doni think it wouldnt be too much? 1..it changes nothing about her counter play..just punishes you for setting off traps as intended..2..she could use a little polish as she already has down time setting up the traps and prevents waste..3..it removes almost all map dependency from her which shouldnt be as horrible as it is..and finally..gives her a little more addon freedom
Shes high tier..not top..why doni think it wouldnt be too much? 1..it changes nothing about her counter play..just punishes you for setting off traps as intended..2..she could use a little polish as she already has down time setting up the traps and prevents waste..3..it removes almost all map dependency from her which shouldnt be as horrible as it is..and finally..gives her a little more addon freedom
She isn’t map dependent though, she doesn’t need any buffs, she is already stronger than billy and Ghostface.
Everyone is going to shriek, and that's okay, but I usually don't feel a difference between 110 and 115. I honestly assumed Spirit was 115 until I started reading this thread. There'll occasionally be swings where I go "that would've hit as a 115 killer" but it usually doesn't make a difference to me. As for why I don't play Hag, it's because I find her too easy. It's just Trap (generators, objectives, and hooked survivors), (scare the) Crap (out of them), and Clap (some survivor cheeks). Maybe it's because I'm at mid ranks, but if they ever put in ranking rewards, I'd play a lot of Hag.
Dude I’ve gone against three hags (never have I ever gone against one) and they all had the same skin. I was devastated because I was so confused on ######### was happening. I escaped one out of the three games. Please no more (rank 3 one pip away from 2 btw)
She isn’t map dependent though, she doesn’t need any buffs, she is already stronger than billy and Ghostface.
I disagree with your first point and think the second is subjective.
Hag doesn't need a good map, but she does need to not get a bad one. Indoor maps like Hawkins or Lery's make her traps much more visible, and big maps like Ormond or the swamp make it hard for her to defend areas effectively without range add ons.
And I think that, especially at high levels, killer strength entirely depends on the player. Somebody who consistently 4Ks with Hag might suck as Ghostface (hey, that's me!) And somebody who destroys people with Ghostface might be bad at Hag.
A common strategy good survivors use is to trigger traps while you're busy with another survivor. If a trap goes off somewhere else and you teleport by accident you'll lose the chase you were in.
This is the main reason i don't use the teleport distance addons lol
I disagree with your first point and think the second is subjective.
Hag doesn't need a good map, but she does need to not get a bad one. Indoor maps like Hawkins or Lery's make her traps much more visible, and big maps like Ormond or the swamp make it hard for her to defend areas effectively without range add ons.
And I think that, especially at high levels, killer strength entirely depends on the player. Somebody who consistently 4Ks with Hag might suck as Ghostface (hey, that's me!) And somebody who destroys people with Ghostface might be bad at Hag.
I think Hawkin is actually good for her because although they’re easier to see, in a way but in another way, they’re easy to hide because of LOS blockers if that makes sense. I try to base how good they’re on how people proficient with them play.
Dude I’ve gone against three hags (never have I ever gone against one) and they all had the same skin. I was devastated because I was so confused on ######### was happening. I escaped one out of the three games. Please no more (rank 3 one pip away from 2 btw)
The skin wasn't the point of that picture. Very sad, no one got it.
The mans really good with hag, I’d trust him on this.
Hes good but I've played a good amount of hag myself...accidental teleporting..? That should be extremely rare..and using user error as a counter argument for a tweak to the killers power seems nonsensical
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Hag is my main. My favorite killer besides doctor
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I agree. She's lethal.
I like Hag personally, I have no idea why I dont play her more often. Like, she's strong and can be very devastating, but I think I just enjoy playing other killers? She's just not as fun to me as say Ghostface, Oni or Freddy. It's not that I dislike her, I just enjoy playing others more I guess
Her movement speed lol 110% is to slow it’s the reason why I don’t play her or huntress
don't like 110 speed and I've never liked trap play styles in any game really
Survivor's skillcheck skill is improved: Very fast generator even Hex: Ruin is alive.
4.4m/s killer: it's take for a long chase to make a survivor injured.
trap killer: She don't have enough time to making battlefield.
DS,BT,Locker DS Glitch: Those parks prevent to tunnel or camp, both is Hag's strategy.
so I don't use the Hag.
Hag also has the best skin hands down.
How is jumping into a locker to use ds a glitch it counts as a grab which it shouldn't
Everyone complaining about her 110 speed does not know how to play her. Not meant to be insulting.
regardless I don't like any of the 110 speeds regardless of the power
Even Spirit?
yes
I think she’s pretty fun if played right.
agreed, and that's probably the main thing why many don't play hag or huntress. You really need to make the most out of their powers to be able to perform well
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Exactly. That's why I don't play Huntress. ######### FPS on PS4 and ######### aim
And also it's something about the power with the way you can only track by sound or scratch marks it's just hard for me to play as spirit
I played her for awhile but it got frustrating watching hatchets hit people without dealing damage.
I enjoy hag honestly. From both sides. And I'm usually red ranks as survivor and if we face a good hag we are smoked.
I think it's kind of why you dont see trapper much. Its setup time and strategy both of which you dont have time for with the gens being done at lightening speed.
The only way around this is good situations (survivors suck, ruin hidden well, using her best addons, etc. )
Yeah that too. And it's frustrating to play against her because on your screen you're already way around a corner when you get hit
Tbh I don't get a ton of hits in post-phase state for that reason, but her combined with Discord and Surveillance can be insane.
Agreed
I don't like her cosmetics , I don't like her trap mechanic unlike trapper and I don't like 110% speed killers . All the love goes to my wraith
I love hag..just wish she didnt have a range limit on teleports
It’d be kinda op if she didn’t though
I disagree to the extreme...
Why? She is already top tier.
Hag is painfully easy. She is highly oppressive and shuts down even the tryhardiest of survivors. If more people understood how to play her, she would be next on the killer hate train.
Her point of view is really annoying.
If so few people know how to play her effectively then isn’t that proof that she isn’t painfully easy?
It would also be a nerf in a weird way.
A common strategy good survivors use is to trigger traps while you're busy with another survivor. If a trap goes off somewhere else and you teleport by accident you'll lose the chase you were in.
This is the main reason i don't use the teleport distance addons lol
Why do you think she's easy?
That is true, even more reason to not make her range infinite.
I agree running through corn or yamaoka bamboo, hell even her own swamp is like running blind with how short she is.
Boring.
explain?
Survivor pathing is consistent. There are many hotspots they will all gravitate towards, whether being chased or not. Pallets, windows, jungle gyms, and God loops and choke points can all be made dangerous with a well placed trap. Her map pressure is oppressive and virtually uncounterable without extreme survivor coordination, or niche perks and map addons/rainbow map. The only way to consistently beat her is to gen rush her, and she is the Queen of the 3 gen (she can struggle on certain maps like red forest, as her setup time and slow movement speed hinder her early game).
Funnily enough, though, I believe she is as bad as trapper when it comes to counterplay. If survivors *know* they are going against a hag then flashlights, urban evasion and small game COMPLETELY counter her power, making her a 110% movment speed killer that actually loses time when using their power. She is easy in the sense that unaware survivors are crushed by her presence, but coordination completely guts her power and makes her absolutely unfun to play.
Shes high tier..not top..why doni think it wouldnt be too much? 1..it changes nothing about her counter play..just punishes you for setting off traps as intended..2..she could use a little polish as she already has down time setting up the traps and prevents waste..3..it removes almost all map dependency from her which shouldnt be as horrible as it is..and finally..gives her a little more addon freedom
She isn’t map dependent though, she doesn’t need any buffs, she is already stronger than billy and Ghostface.
Everyone is going to shriek, and that's okay, but I usually don't feel a difference between 110 and 115. I honestly assumed Spirit was 115 until I started reading this thread. There'll occasionally be swings where I go "that would've hit as a 115 killer" but it usually doesn't make a difference to me. As for why I don't play Hag, it's because I find her too easy. It's just Trap (generators, objectives, and hooked survivors), (scare the) Crap (out of them), and Clap (some survivor cheeks). Maybe it's because I'm at mid ranks, but if they ever put in ranking rewards, I'd play a lot of Hag.
You got 'em good, Groot! And to add on to that, she can still have a really hard time if
A. Someone has a flashlight
B. Someone has Urban Evasion
C. Someone has Small Game
D. Someone has Object of Obsession (exponentially worse if they're SWF calling out your trap placement on coms)
E. You get an indoor map (Hag traps stand out on most of the floor surfaces in Lery's, The Game, and Hawkins
Dude I’ve gone against three hags (never have I ever gone against one) and they all had the same skin. I was devastated because I was so confused on ######### was happening. I escaped one out of the three games. Please no more (rank 3 one pip away from 2 btw)
I disagree with your first point and think the second is subjective.
Hag doesn't need a good map, but she does need to not get a bad one. Indoor maps like Hawkins or Lery's make her traps much more visible, and big maps like Ormond or the swamp make it hard for her to defend areas effectively without range add ons.
And I think that, especially at high levels, killer strength entirely depends on the player. Somebody who consistently 4Ks with Hag might suck as Ghostface (hey, that's me!) And somebody who destroys people with Ghostface might be bad at Hag.
I disagree respectfully..I think you are not even looking at the variables here...and frankly It shouldnt be that complicated
That..honestly makes 0 sense dude
I think Hawkin is actually good for her because although they’re easier to see, in a way but in another way, they’re easy to hide because of LOS blockers if that makes sense. I try to base how good they’re on how people proficient with them play.
The mans really good with hag, I’d trust him on this.
How do we know she's the least played killer? Did they put out usage statistics?
The skin wasn't the point of that picture. Very sad, no one got it.
Hes good but I've played a good amount of hag myself...accidental teleporting..? That should be extremely rare..and using user error as a counter argument for a tweak to the killers power seems nonsensical